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- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -13/+55Putin is a gangster, and he is hard at work trying to restore Russia to the glory days. A bear is a bear. Wounded or tired, it can still eff you up.
- tobikow, on 07/05/2008, -4/+28In Soviet Russia, UK threatens you!
oh wait... - DocHoliday22, on 07/04/2008, -8/+29If anyone can tell me a time when one country hasn't identified another country as a threat and tried to start a war with it, then something like this would be considered news...
- GrmRpr3000, on 07/05/2008, -3/+20Please remember, non-British friends, that the article is referring to people considered a threat to Britain, not to America or any of Britain's allies. If you were to read it you would discover that relations between Britain and Russia haven't been doing too well. There are repeated cases of the Russians pushing their luck with flying aircraft into British and NATO airspace without permission, as well as obvious links to KGB murders on British soil, as per the Litvinenko case.
Russia, or more specifically, Putin, want to put themselves out there as a major power. The problem is that Putin is as corrupt as they come, and has reduced Russia's government back into a similar state. He is still very much in control, despite the change of president, and he's an ex-KGB man, and always will be.
They have nukes, they produce and supply oil for a lot of European countries, and with Putin at the helm are difficult to deal with and generally nasty people. They are definitely a threat to Britain. - sanman, on 07/04/2008, -9/+26How many times has Russia invaded the UK in the past hundreds of years? Zero.
- soupr, on 07/05/2008, -1/+16Does this mean we can start making action films with Russian bad guys again?
- sarchosis, on 07/05/2008, -4/+20I hear Russia's nationalism and neo-nazism are bad, too.
- MacroDaemon, on 07/05/2008, -8/+23Russian military aircraft tend to violate the airspace of Russia's neighbors rather regularly. I'd consider this slightly more threatening than Iran's nuclear endeavors.
- Thrilltone, on 07/05/2008, -10/+23The biggest threat to the UK are their own Legislative and Judicial systems, with Judges who rule that it's OK to use Sharia law in Great Britain.
- m0tbaillie, on 07/05/2008, -1/+13Our present is "generally a good guy"? By what ***** standards? We've invaded two countries in less than 8 years and are teetering on a third.
- feliks2, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10"Once KGB, always KGB"
- notregistering, on 07/05/2008, -8/+16Top Ten Oil Producing Countries:
1. Saudi Arabia … 11 million barrels per day (13.9% of estimated world total)
2. Russia … 9.9 million bpd (12.5%)
3. United States … 8.3 million bpd (10.5%)
4. Iran … 4.2 million bpd (5.3%)
US and allies working their way up the ladder it would appear.
Watch your back, Arabians. - noahhoward, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10You mean the lunatic whose country recently declared all of their nuclear assets and opened up to international scrutiny. Bush took him off the 'list'.
- Sergej, on 07/05/2008, -5/+12Can't we just have another World War and get it over with?
- pintomp3, on 07/05/2008, -7/+14more fear mongering from one of rupert murdoch's "news" sources.
- boombye, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7Maybe you're not at all familiar with the Cold War or Mutual Assured Destruction. The UK doesn't want to invade Russia, are you retarded?
- peestandingup, on 07/05/2008, -3/+10Woo, get your tickets for WWIII folks!!
- sanman, on 07/04/2008, -5/+11Clearly, they're building up the materiel, so that they can bolt across at the last minute. That's the way to do it, under the current NPT.
The NPT only allows for sanctions on you, AFTER you go nuclear. It doesn't prevent you from building up as much as possible before you actually cross the line. - nirvanix, on 07/06/2008, -2/+8Bush is generally a good guy? Are you serious? He is asscone double-dipped in evil and stupid!
- dudefaceguyman, on 07/05/2008, -16/+22"April 2008 The MoD reveals that RAF fighter jets have been scrambled at least 21 times in 12 months to respond to Russian military aircraft encroaching on Nato airspace"
Interesting I didn't know that. Anyhoo, I'm really not a fan of Putin the more I read up on him. He seems like a smart guy, but with a 'touch' of evil in him...At least our (US) president is generally a good guy with a 'touch' of stupid in him. Heh.
Hope the UK gets this all worked out in this meeting. Good luck! - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Yeah I guess 20,000 nuclear weapons might hurt a bit.
- chopsky, on 07/05/2008, -6/+11What a ridiculous comment. The number of times a certain country has invaded other countries has absolutely nothing to do with how much of a threat it is.
- Jokimoto, on 07/05/2008, -8/+13"Russia Identifies U.K. as 4rth Most Pompous *****...."
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7pintomp3, if you would just read the article it says: "There is reported to be deep irritation within the services that vital resources are having to be diverted to deal with industrial and military espionage by the Russians."
The Russians and Chinese are responsible for most of the espionage that is going on. What they can't steal they try to buy.
I was attending Iowa State University in the mid to late 1990's and there was a Chinese guy who for more than a year walked around all day asking people what their favorite shoes were, favorite clothes, favorite cars, tires, etc.....and he would call China and tell them to make it. He was very outspoken and would follow you practically for a mile or more talking to people about their preferences. The fool carried a pen and paper with him and he would write everything down and call it in....and that is what he said he did of China who paid for his stay in the US.
When I worked in Silicon Valley, California our company was hit by a Chinese spy. It turned out that the Director of Bioinformatics was stealing all of the patient data/records as well as all of the chemical compounds and sending it to his old Alma mater in China where medical research was ongoing for the very same HIV and oncological drugs. When I caught him he was fired, he came back and shot and killed the VP in charge of the company, then himself.
The Chinese and Russians mean business. - swiftideas, on 07/06/2008, -1/+6
Putin's Russia may be a throwback to the Cold War. But why?
Not so long ago, perestroika led to oligarchy. The economy was sold out, national assets liquidated and profits transferred out of the country. The proletariat grew hungry and desperate. The political landscape changed.
An insecure population never permits a thriving economy. Capitalism didn't work. Putin filled the vacuum. A KGB man brought stability. Sure, Putin's Russia is corrupt. Putin's Russia is ugly. Putin's Russia is dangerous. But her people are eating once more..
Russia may be dark and sinister but was there ever an alternative? - sanman, on 07/04/2008, -1/+6Iran's search for the Bomb easily pre-dates the invasion of Iraq by a wide margin. The hardliners don't seem to require any domestic popular endorsement to wield their strength, so their stance seems to come from ideology rather than any wider perceptions on Iran's diplomatic treatment.
- cupofjavaa, on 07/06/2008, -1/+6i forget... are wars good or bad?
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Yes. The US is going to destroy themselves to get their oil. That makes sense.
- dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7Both are threatening. Iran sponsors terrorist groups all over the world. They clearly state their hatred and despise to us non-muslims, and they have defined us as "The Big Satan". Clearly, nukes in their hands we very quickly find their way to terrorist groups. At least with Russia, we have nuclear detterence. They know that if they attack us, they'll be wiped out as well as us. With the Iranians it's a problem. A nuke goes off suddenly in a large metro area in the US. Some organisation called the "brigades of salah a-din" take responsibilty. Who do strike back?
- noahhoward, on 07/05/2008, -2/+6Yes because we all know British pilots are really flying those airplanes into NATO space and Putins threats against the rest of the world for keeping tabs on Iran were just mistranslated from English to English.
- noahhoward, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Keep up on current events.
- dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Yep. Britain wants to start a war with Russia. The same country that has over 6000 nukes(the biggest stock pile in the world), 40000 tons(!) of chemical weapons, and an unknown number of biological weapons, including anthrax and smallpox.
- atarijedi, on 07/06/2008, -1/+5Cold War 2.0?
- JorgeGT, on 07/06/2008, -0/+4Yeah... it's a sad history. Looks like Russia is the sandbox where all social systems reveal their dark side, from absolute monachy (Tzars) to all-free capitalism (Mobs), passing through socialism (Stalinism and Gulags). I hope some day they (the russian people) recover what they deserve, a motherland free from fear, insecurity and oppression.
- QuantumBios, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5If a leader of a tribe tells the people their goodness is under attack by insane, evil people who want to destroy them, they will react just like animals and attack. The Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels noticed all you had to do to get people to march off to war is for the leaders to tell them they were under attack, denounce protestors as traitors exposing the tribe to danger, and the people would slander, ostracize and expell the protestors, and then tramp straight off to be slaughtered. He said this technique worked in every country of the world.
from http://propagandapedia.com/ - dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -3/+7Only if you get to fight in the front lines.
- dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4North Korea seems to be stepping away from being a threat. They have dismantled their nuclear reactor, and they never were a threat on Britain. They've been a threat for the US however. Most of all, they've been a threat to two of our allies - Japan and South Korea.
- dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article24 ...
- dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6http://www.iranterror.com/
- Berkana, on 07/04/2008, -5/+8I don't think your interpretation is necessarily correct. In the past decade, Iranian oil production has been on the decline; it is perfectly legal for them to produce uranium for civilian use under international law, and in light of their declining oil production, it makes sense for them to try to use the other fuel they have around.
But honestly, Iran has been provoked; they are surrounded on both sides by our forces, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we're talking about waging war on them. They've seen what we've done to Iraq, and unlike the American public, they are not afraid to openly identify our conquest of Iraq as a war over oil resources. What country wouldn't get defensive and try to get the biggest bomb they can with that kind of rhetoric and behavior directed towards them? Our stance towards them has only strengthened the hardliners in Iran. Before Bush came to power, the reformers were making progress, but after Bush, Ahmedinejad was elected, largely in response to our surrounding them. Ahmadinejad's rhetoric is the Iranian equivalent of what the Republicans are doing: equating a militant stance with patriotism. - SaladCactusKing, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4lol wut
- Handcannons, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6What next? 100 posts ranting about the US, even though the article is about the UK.
- jmichaelg, on 07/05/2008, -2/+5You haven't been paying attention Berkana.
Iran is backing Hezbollah. Hezbollah first attacked the U.S. in 1983 by sending a truck bomb against our barracks in Lebanon. We're engaged in a war with Iran whether we fight back or not. The question is: do we continue to choose to look the other way or do we take on Iran before she has the bomb?
As to the bomb, Iran is developing the capacity to enrich uranium. Whether it's 3% enrichment for a reactor or 90% for a bomb, the equipment used is identical. The only difference is the number of times the uranium-hexa-flouride is passed through the centrifuges. - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4orly
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1535478/Sha ... - dkapuchino, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4They know, they're just trying to bury it, because it's a success to the way bush has dealt with North Korea.
- ciaran036, on 07/05/2008, -8/+10Are you people just ***** stupid or what? You'd believe anything! You ***** believed weapons of mass destruction and despite the absolute certainty that Iran don't have nuclear weapons and aren't developing any, you stupid ***** believe what ***** George Bush and some stranger Obama has to say on it. What the ***** would they know? The weapons inspectors would ***** know - and they do ***** know - Iran has no nuclear weapons!
And this is from The Times - Rupert Murdoch mass manipulation for ***** sake.
Sorry but this is just ***** outrageous. - Vazel, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2Yea the fascist attitudes in Russia are concerning. It's really pathetic considering the og fascists slaughtered over 20 million of them and wanted to turn many of the survivors into slaves.
- nobody98, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2Not to mention Russia supplys gas to the uk. Brits will just freeze to death if Russia flips the switch.
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