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- PATSCRU, on 10/10/2007, -7/+70Oh, yes, i forgot the reason we're in this war, because crazy foaming at the mouth, sky is falling fear tactics have consumed us; people like you Mr. Matthew have been used to sell and proliferate untruths about the war. I thought we were at war for WMD's, and then to overthrow Saddam (who, if you bothered to educate yourself, hated Islamic Fundamentalists), or maybe it was to secure Iraq, or did i forget to mention that we can conveniently include Iraq in the the war on terror. Eating ***** for breakfast every day for the past six years must really be starting to get to your head.
- iDragonFly, on 10/10/2007, -9/+69"One of the other five authors of the Times piece, Staff Sergeant Jeremy Murphy, an Army Ranger and reconnaissance team leader, was shot in the head while the article was being written."
All this, and for what ... - CrackaPleeze, on 10/10/2007, -1/+48Karma? Speaking truth to power, then dieing for a war that they didn't believe in to begin with, and you think they got what they deserved?
I've never wished death upon anyone, but I'd give everything I had to switch out you, davenp35, for either one of them. ***** you. - cococooky, on 10/10/2007, -14/+45...Oil, arms sales and bigger loans from the Reserve Bank.
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -11/+34honor and prayer my ass, this whole notion of "they are fighting for your freedoms" is so far from reality and straight propaganda from the government that has brainwashed nearly everyone into believing this rubbish. if you take a step back and look at it from a rational stand-point when was the last time our freedom was in jeopardy and the armed forces fought for us, winning our right to be free? last i remember it was the revolutionary war. all wars within every generation alive today has been fought in the interest of corporate elites. the majority of the people who join the troops are either brainwashed into this lie of 'protecting freedoms' and the lie that we are the saviors of the world sent by god himself, or they are blood-thirsty jarheads just wanting to shoot some cool guns and legally kill people (this is especially true for the ones who have joined since the war started), service for the country and fighting for freedoms my ass. if the troops really were fighting for our freedoms then they would be staging a coup right here right now and getting that bastard, who has successfully been taking away all our rights, out of office. think about it, when was the last time Sweden or any other country truly more free "fought" for freedom. i'll be the the first to say ***** the troops, these murdering thugs arent protecting ***** but old money.
- insanebrain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24-"...and War is the Answer"
yeah . .but is is the wrong answer. - hawkspur, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25If you want war, feel free to go over there and fight in it. Oh, wait.
- Fabc001, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19karma is a bitch, hope it catches up with you real soon, *****!
- FRANKeB, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Death solves all problem. No person, No problem. - Stalin
- Bilabrin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18You're what's wrong with america!
- GRANDPAMUNSTER, on 06/11/2009, -5/+21Best post of the morning!! You forgot about the line " we have to fight them over there instead of over here"
- nygrissplz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15An armchair-soldier. "If it takes NUCLEAR BLACKMAIL...".
Just like a disgusting politician. You make me sick. Nuclear blackmail would COMPLETELY ***** THE ENTIRE WORLD. Russia and China are on edge as is. We can NOT do ANYTHING like that. We shouldn't be there in the first place. You're insane. You probably don't know anything about Islam, or the fact that even once-friendly civilians want us the hell out of there. - halavais, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Actually, no. They were killed when their truck overturned. I'm not sure what your point is though. Are you suggesting that KIA only "count" if they involve a bullet or shrapnel? If so, you are an idiot. These men died serving their country, in a war they knew that they shouldn't have been sent to.
- dancantone, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Bullet, Mortar round, IED, vehicle crash...who gives a *****!
He didn't get to die at home, in the realm of familiarity of family and loved ones.
I don't want to blow my last breath laying in some smelly sand pit staring up at a huge dusty sky. - Fabc001, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19Who the ***** is the real enemy to our soldiers? There now seems to be a real pattern emerging of soldiers being Tillmanned if they speak out.
Enemies, both foreign and domestic don't forget! - KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16"those are the only soldiers anyone on digg would say anything nice about" - No, those are the soldiers being discussed in the article.
And where do you get that the majority of troops support the war? They probably did in 2003, but not anymore. - Logicexe, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14That would be correct if demand for oil would behave like everything else does. Oil has special rules, it cannot be treating like every other commodity because the demand always goes up. As long as your economy is growing you will need more oil. Even small shortages can have vast cascading effects on economies and fuel prices. Remember the 1973 oil embargo? We lost only 10% of our supply and it caused massive rises in fuel costs as well as gasoline shortages, just 10%...
This strangle hold oil companies have on us is beneficial to them, which is why they will continue to do their best to keep gasoline prices where they are. At current prices it's just expensive enough that people bitch, but keep buying it anyway. They will continue to rig the system to get cheap oil as long as they possibly can because the minute people start actually using less oil is the minute they begin to lose their oligarchy over transportation and manufacturing. - NotAChickenHawk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10"You will never see a military general criticize a matter of policy because it is not their job." Hence the Patraeus report has no credibility.
- Tocano, on 10/10/2007, -16/+26Just out of curiosity, if this was all done for oil, where is it? Why did Bush forgive the Iraqi debt and refuse to take it as offered payment? Why am I still paying $3 a gallon for gas? If we just want oil, don't we have less sticky tarpits to get it from (Qatar, Kuwait)? Why don't we get it from the locations we know there's oil in our own country?
I guess I just never got the connection with "it's all about the oil" when we're not seeing any of it. The ONLY connection that I can make is that there may have been concern that if we didn't intervene, the entire region would fall into chaos and that would cause OPEC's supply to be uncertain, but that's all I can come up with. - geoken, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11We've already demonstrated our willingness to pay the current high oil prices. Why would the oil companies lower prices again.
- UglieJosh, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12World War II had suitable justification but, other than that, I completely agree with you.
- eamonchaney, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Ur a moron.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Let me tell you something assclown. I've been in two combat zones and I can tell you that when you're getting shot at, you're not supporting any freaking war. You're trying not to die! Any soldiers dumb enough to support an unjust war are the ones that need to come back in wooden boxes.
- akkibaba, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9You know that the US tried and executed German and Japanese soldiers who claimed to "just be following orders", right? The US itself argued back then that soldiers have a right and a responsibility to speak out if they feel that it's needed.
- insanebrain, on 10/10/2007, -9/+17hahaha. . both don't exist. .
- wageslaven, on 10/10/2007, -10/+18Jesus can suck it. If you want to be ASSURED the war continues, well, you just keep "hoping and praying" that something will change.
Nothing is as ineffective as "prayer".
I agree the war has to end, but I promise, you are exactly the reason that the US Government encourages religion, because it makes you impotent as a citizen. - DeQuinceysDiet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8And how is wanting them home safe not considered "support"?
- sibhod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I want every single troop to come home to their families and lead full and productive lives. I'm such a non-supporter.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+18It's not about the supply of oil, it's about the price. Starting a war in the ME made the price go up. BushCO profits. But you already knew that didn't you, Mr Apologist?
- chall2001, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6No one said it was a conspiracy. Its just a failed war that has no end.
But don't worry, only people who serve in the military are at risk---you're totally safe. - yakski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6GiggleSTick.. Read some history... the contracts were in place.. the UN was preparing to lift sanctions... I guess you either will not look at the facts or just choose to ignore ones that do not support your position.
TubaTech ... INCORRECT on "same profit margins" (otherwise known as lying) !!!!!!!!!!!... Profit margins increased dramatically due to the market price increases which DO NOT reflect company expenditures in capital but instead reflects EXPECTED supply problems related to political instability as well as to available supply issues. To dummy it down for you... WAR=PRICE INCREASE=HIGHER PROFITS. At least you got the increased demands part correct, but mostly worldwide, not so much in the US.
YOU obviously have no idea about logic or business... go back to your porn. - sibhod, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Apathy, naiveté, and false hopes are what got us in this mess to begin with.
An even quicker way to have an effective end to a war is to not start it to begin with. Iraq was not and is not a threat. The military can spin their wheels in Iraq for another 10 years at the cost of the US economy and citizen's lives. How is that quick and effective exactly? - tysonkam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I know one of the 7, I was freaked when I saw the report of the deaths; luckily it wasn't him.
- mbelleghem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6It's not about the altrustic 'lets control oil so we can make it cheaper for everyone' - oil supermajors aren't exactly the Salvation Army, mate. It's about CONTROL of oil. When you control supply, and you constantly increase demand (SUVs are fun, fun, fun!), you get to make money. Lots of it. Lots of money = lots of power. People like power - especially those who already have it.
If you still can't see the picture, let us know - I can draw you one. - Tocano, on 10/10/2007, -13/+18Apparently not. If we had more oil supply, then the cost of gas should go down, right? I'm assuming you're implying that we're not only getting more oil, but that the oil companies are raising gas prices IN SPITE of larger supply... ? If that was the case, wouldn't the mostly Democrat group who investigated accused the oil companies for price gouging have found something?
They didn't. - kalisphoenix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Two little kids growing up without fathers, and two wives without husbands, parents without sons. This is ***** terrible. One guy follows orders, dies, and it damages the lives of his entire family. How many thousands of times has this happened in this war?
For whatever reason, it doesn't really *hit* me all that often, or that hard, that every soldier over there has a family, often a wife or husband, and many times a kid or two. That just makes me hate this war all the more, and all wars, and any ***** who orders other people to fight without himself being in the front lines, the first to fall.
Take a tip from King Arthur, who always was in the thick... of course, he was mythical, and maybe that's the lesson of all this. - mbelleghem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Tocano, people see what they want. They'll ignore the fact that China is buying more oil than ever to power their economic expansion. See supply and demand doesn't calculate very well into the whole "Iraq for oil" argument so it's ignored."
Are you freaking kidding? Try this calculation. Control of supply allows one to game supply and demand for maximum profit (rent-seeking, if you like). Only when you've got your hand on the tap can you hold production at the sweet spot that bleeds the planet straight into your wallet. If supply is too tight, demand for alternate sources of energy endangers petroleum's stranglehold on the global energy market and people start giving a ***** about things like fuel economy and energy efficiency. if supply is too loose, your profits are not maximised, and you don't make as much as you possibly can - which is of course needed to stay king of the hill.
What on earth are kids learning in school these days? It sure ain't economics or political science. - akula696969, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Once again some manipulated idiot pulls out the meaningless rhetoric he has heard on the teeveee and repeats it like a parrot. "Islamic Fascists" has no meaning. It doesn't even make any sense, and is a phrase made on the fly by this administration to scare you. Your use of this meaningless phrase shows that you do not have the slightest understanding of the real issues.
- W00K13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5WOW, your a ***** scumbag of the highest order. Karma? KARMA?!!!!
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5facism (real nazi style facism) was brought to america via Prescot Bush and you're just seeing his lineage realize his heinus vision.
- megarobotguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Wow, you dumbass what kind of comment is that?! They are there to fight for your freedom "supposedly" and that is your ***** upped remark for their efforts. All they are doing is expressing their freedom of speech like you are. Douchebag!
- JanYpe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Yeah, like "Who gave this moron a computer?"
- ZenFountain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Pretty sad *****. The guys who had the courage to say it like it is are the real heroes, not a general and ambassador spewing out ***** to congress and the American people. I noticed during the testimonies that neither one (Petraeus or Crocker) had any knowledge of the op-ed. Some days I wake up and wonder if the last seven years have even been real...it should would make a great nightmare to wake up from. That can't be more fanciful than Bush's messianic mission to bring democracy to Iraq.
- DandelionFace, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Well, if karma really is valid, I'm assuming he's already dead.
- sodoh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It is more then oil. Danarama above covers some of it but I recommend you read Niaomi Kliens "Baghdad Year One" article. I also recommend you read the Iraq constitution (put in place by the USA).
It is about raping the country of its resources, as an added bonus billions of US taxpayer money disappears without any paperwork to say where it went. - eatkitten, on 10/31/2007, -3/+7Because you used 5 consecutive question marks and thus must be punished.
RTFM. - danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4....arms sales, industry contracts, reserve loans...AND OIL ! (oil prices) Exxon made 100 billion last year.
- isellmacs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4A link chosen at random from a google search for the details:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=26960
It's a mistake to say that the Invasion of Iraq is all about Oil; it's more about money and power. Oil is just part of the bigger picture, but it is still a large peice. - sibhod, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4Switch to "View by date", not "View by most diggs"
- cawpin, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10You are an ignorant prick. The US government allows us to practice any religion we want, or none at all, as long as it doesn't violate anybody else's rights. That's one of the main reasons the US exists. Why can't you just allow people to "hope" however they want to without being a *****. I'm sure the atheists don't appreciate you the same as we Christians don't like being associated with abortion clinic bombers.
The only way to have a quick and effective end to a war is to let the military fight it without interference from the other forms of government. -
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