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- MrQuoz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56Bush makes Nixon look like a Saint.
- Lixie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+50They sold the Patriot Act as necessary legislation to fight terrorism and child exploitation. This looks like neither.
- mikejna, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36You could be imprisoned indefinitely without a trial during the McCarthy era? You can now, under the Patriot Act.
- flernk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34Bush is certainly making a very strong case for "Worst Commander -in-Chief in American History." As a "decider," he gets an "F."
I think the military refers to leaders like Bush as "seagull commanders." They fly in, make a ton of noise, ***** all over everything, then leave. - Blakechi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Yet another incident to add to Bush's stellar record. History will record this era as the dark ages of America.
- MemeWarrior, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I don't know about that... At least McCarthy had rather blatant fascist tendencies that were easily recognized for what they were. The Neocon brand of fascism is much more subtle and insidious.
- Charron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22The encryption tech exists, surely, but try explaining to them how worthwhile it is. This is the government, with Mr. Series-of-Tubes among their ranks.
- Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Explain why he signed the order. http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/
He knew about it, he approved it. Even if it was just a rubber stamp, he provided the authority to do it. - ptsd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20so whats the standard for impeachment now, president has to eat babies live on fox news?
- chrisOrbit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens. - Thomas Jefferson
- Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Use of it against government officials was precisely why many people were against it. It was practically Nixonian. How do we know without oversight that it was solely (and illegally) used to prevent corruption; that might be the face-saving cover story and the real reason was to dig up dirt that could be used for blackmail.
- MemeWarrior, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14No, it's more likely Bush handed the NSA a rubber stamp with his signature on it.
- edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Agreed.
- tankexmortis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Now we enlightened few pray that this is actually picked up by the mainstream media... Here's hoping another rich blond chick hasn't died, been kidnapped, or shaved her head.
And here's hoping this gets traced back to the administration and they all end up in prison. - tankexmortis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11That, or lying about a blowjob.
- EricAnderton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Maybe so, but that's just symptomatic of the overall problem: the Executive branch is a huge sprawling organization all supporting the authority of just *two* elected people. If the President and Vice-President are truely blind to what is happening across all such Executive Agencies, just due to the sheer scope and scale of their jobs, then there is simply too much government for the White House to effectively control.
That doesn't excuse them from doing it correctly though, nor does it excuse us for dismissing the situation as out of reach - it just means something should change.
If you ask me, we need less federal government, a directly elected (read: not appointed) Executive Cabinet, or something in between. - TheRealMisterd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10is GWB related to Nixon?
Or did he just updated the Watergate handbook on spying on your congressional enemies? - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Well, the babies might have had it coming! Why do you hate America?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Politicians must be kept under the thumb as well. They, most of all, can not afford having a respected politician spilling any information which may reveal any truth.
For instance... anything related to 911 - m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9haha
Bush being a ***** is a damn good analogy. - eggo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@rmxz
I asked my senator this question, and he explained that the phone system is not a truck. You can't encrypt the traffic because it would be like dumping enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material. - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, it would be a signature machine, but it doesn't matter HOW he gave them authority, point of law is, he did.
- jetsetgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"But it shouldn't matter if you aren't doing anything wrong!"
I can still hear those idiots from here. - phiya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4people neglect to remember how many times events were staged in history by governments to drive their people to war, including here in the US for Vietnam and WW2.
people neglect to remember that plans were drafted to use passenger jets as missiles and faux hijackings during the 1950's by NATO and its allies
why is it so hard to imagine the government killing 3000 of its own civilians when it doesn't give a ***** about its own bed buddy, the military?
ever heard of Dead Cell, or Richard Marcinko?? He is a CIA trained American terrorist. check out his books, the man is knee deep in the military arm of the shadow government. - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This was a crucial, constitutional matter. Not the sort of thing that someone wouldn't have on the top of their minds when they did it. You can bet he passed it through his legal staff before he signed it, and they approved it using the same notions of executive authority they've used for everything else. He's not working in a vacuum, he has support, but he is responsible. I can forgive small slips, but this is enormous. He knew. He couldn't have not known.
- Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Anne Coulter? Man, I'd be torn about that.
- EricAnderton, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Exactly. It was only a matter of time before that piece of legislature came back to bite the hand that wrote it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I look forward to the day when the Democrats shut down this illegal wire taping. I'm sure they will one of these days, and if not then maybe they will do this next year.
They Have to protect the constitution, right? Isn't that why we elected the Democrats? - Gustomucho, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9How long before Bush change the law so everyone but him and his closest friends can be inspected, probed, spyed on and tortured for any reason?
China here we go! - m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6you would've got my digg if you didn't add that last line.
- rottenspitty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Dear God,
Please take these *****, the Bush Administration down. And take the rubber stamping do nothing Congress with them.
RottenSpitty - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I am not a crook!
- NeoRicen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Almost off topic but this shows that very ittle can be kept secret. IF there are whistleblowers for simple things like wiretapping then to think that it makes sense for there to be none in so called 9/11 conspiracy then you are seriously retarded.
- honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Speaking of drug running.
Remember In May of 2004 Titan Corp. announced in a press release a major purchase from SkyWay, a penny stock fraud company about to go bankrupt amid accusations by investors of fraud after they discovered the firm had nothing but non-existent products to show for its two year cash burn of almost $40 million.
SkyWay said it’s patented technology promised to protect airplanes from terrorism, and provide high-speed Internet at 30,000 feet. To the shock and anger of investors who lost 30-40 million dollars, it did nothing of the kind.
Even a cursory inspection of the company and its principals quickly reveals that SkyWay had no products, no prospects, and nothing to demonstrate.
What they did have, though… were a couple of airliners masquerading as official U.S. Government planes.
Imagine the possibilities.
Before going “bankrupt”, the company which painted the plane to look like it belonged to the U.S. Government, SkyWay Aircraft, was clearly up to no good. They had no use for one DC9. Yet they controlled two.
Skyway Communication’s principal Kovar must have been looking well forward to justify the purchase; the company was then in the middle of losing $40 million in less than three years, between 2002 and its last annual report before bankruptcy in January 2005.
both the DC9 (tail number N900SA) and its twin, a second DC9 (N120NE) had been used by an operation which includes the former head of the CIA proprietary airline used to ferry TOW missiles to the Ayatollah Khomeini’s regime in Iran, as part of the Iran Contra Scandal.
Adnan Khashoggi lieutenant Ramy El-Batrawi, who supplied one of the two DC9’s, is the former President of an admitted CIA subsidiary airline.
The Tower Commission Report into the Iran-Contra Scandal first exposed Jetborne as a CIA proprietary. When it came time to begin shipping the missiles, said the report, Oliver North had asked a CIA official for the name of a “reliable” charter airline.
The public commercial charter airline North called was Jetborne International. By the time the firm was “outed” as a CIA airline, it had already gone “bankrupt”.
The DC9 (tail number N900SA) had recently busted at an airport in Ciudad del Carmen in the state of Campeche, Mexico freighted 5.5 tons of cocaine on its way to “US”!
The DC9 was purchased several years ago in a partnership between “Royal Sons Motor Yacht Sales, Inc. DBA “Royal Sons” and a company owned by Brent Kovar called Skyway Communications Holding Corp, which jointly signed a loan with United Bank and Trust Company in St. Petersburg, FL. for $1.5 million.
While Huffman Aviation’s familiar blue-awning flight school was at 400 E Airport, its hangar was several hundred feet down the runway, at 224 E Airport Ave. Royal Sons used this same address, apparently during the same time frame that the flight school was serving as the home-away-from-home of terrorist ringleader Mohamed Atta.
An address at Huffman Aviation at the Venice Airport apparently is the “green light from the DEA” it seems by the recent seizure of 5.5 tons of cocaine on a DC9 owned by a company which used Huffman’s address.
The same month Mohamed Atta arrived to attend his flight school in Venice, Huffman Aviation, the owner of that flight school, Wallace J. Hilliard, had his Lear jet confiscated on a runway at Orlando Executive Airport by DEA agents who found 43 pound of Bin Laden’s best uncut Al Qaeda heroin onboard.
Also of major significance is the fact that photos of the DC9, seized in Ciudad del Carmen, reveal that the plane is painted with the distinctive blue and white color color scheme of official U.S. Government planes.
Moreover, to reinforce the effect, or subterfuge, the plane carries an official-looking Seal painted on its side, which reads: SKY WAY AIRCRAFT, PROTECTION OF AMERICA’S SKIES, around an image of a federal eagle clutching the familiar olive branch in its talons. Many have been fooled into concluding that the plane belongs to the U.S. Transportation Security Administration.
It looks “exactly” like a plane that belongs to the U.S. Transportation Security Administration.
The tricked-out airliners were supposedly used to perform in-flight demonstrations of the spiffy new technology of SKYWAY AIRCRAFT and its corporate parent SKYWAY COMMUNICATIONS HOLDING CORP.
Mexican Gen. Carlos Gaytan held a news conference, he told reporters that his soldiers had unfortunately been unable to apprehend the plane’s pilot.
It seemed almost exactly like what had happened when terror flight school owner Wally Hilliard’s Lear jet got busted with 43 pounds of Bin Laden’s best uncut Al Qaeda heroin aboard. Somehow, his pilot got off scot-free, too.
So there were two Mexican pilots arriving in a small Falcon business jet and they offerd to pay for the DC-9 to make an emergency landing, at a time when the airport was officially closed.
Hahahaha and they were the only ones detained. Not the one with enough cocaine to open a ski park in the summer.
Both of the detained Mexican pilots published reports revealed, they were employees of the Mexican government’s Federal Water Commission.
Although 5.5 tons of cocaine would seem to rate at least mild interest from American law enforcement, the Tampa DEA refuses to comment. The company’s owner appears to have no fear of being picked up anytime soon, even just for questioning.
The DEA undervalued the amount seized by a whopping $400 million dollars. Asked if they were investigating the American side of the 5.5 ton bust, the Tampa DEA office issued a terse no comment.
So would you think the 5-ton cocaine bust would deserve more attention? Well the MSM didnt think so.
“The 9/11 terror plot intersected with the activities of a drug trafficking network of international scope, in ways that form a “crystal clear” picture of what was going on,” said Edmonds.
Former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft went to the Supreme Court to silence FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, to keep her from revealing what she had learned in translated documents, which, as she has stated, indicate that the State Department was covering up a drug trafficking network associated with the 9.11 attack.
Oh yea incase your interested, the cocaine was packed into 128 identical black suitcases stenciled on the side of each of the 128 pieces of identical black luggage is the word “Private.”
Al Qaeda must be a Private club with government connections. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3RTFA, people bashing Bush. This happened before the PATRIOT act. Basically, the story is that FBI agents were using FISA as a means to wire tap officials for corruption related activities. This is against what FISA was set up for. I love it when stupid people make fun of Bush for something he isn't responsible for.
- honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1According to U.S. intelligence reports the Saudi government played a direct role in funding 9/11 and Saudi Arabia has an active role as a player in the nuclear black-market. Also the U.S. State Department’s Human Rights Report shows Saudi Arabia is a brutal dictatorship that makes Iraq under Saddam Hussein look like Disneyworld.
Why are we giving a free pass to the Saudis who are supplying money and weaponry to those doing the most killing of Americans in Iraq?
What more of a “Double standard” can there be than to declare a war on terror to get those who attacked us on 9/11 only to avoid holding to account those most responsible (the Saudi’s) and to not only allow them (the Saudi’s) to continue to support, fund and supply the terrorist whom are doing the most killing of Americans (90%) but now even “WE” are supporting Sunni factions of Al-Qaida. We are supporting and funding those Al-Qaida Sunni terror cells in Iran is so they can go after the Iranians. Which means we are the country that supports terror!
I mean what side are we on now the terrorist?
If you want to stop this madness you need to demand that we investigate 9/11!
Why in the world would the United States government go so far to protect Saudi Arabia in the face of what itself declares to be the biggest security threat facing our nation and the world today?
The Saudis spend nearly $20 million per year in lobbying activities in the U.S. via their hired agents? What kind of return on investment are they getting out of the United States Congress?
The fact that Saudi Arabia pours large sums into lobbying firms and public relations companies with close ties to congress does not come as a big surprise. The FARA database under the DOJ website lists Qorvis Communications as one of Saudi Arabia’s registered foreign agents. In 2003, for only a six months period, Qorvis received more than $11 million from the Saudi government. Another firm, Loeffler Tuggey Pauerstein Rosenthal LLP, another registered foreign agent, received more than $840,000 for the same six-month period, and the list goes on. Just for this six month period the government of Saudi Arabia paid a total of more than $14 million to 13 lobbying and public relations companies; all registered as foreign agents.
Many of these agents, with their loyalty to the foreign hand that feeds them, end up being appointed to various positions, commissions and special envoys by our government. Recall Kissinger and his appointment to head the 9/11 Commission, and of course the recent revelation by Woodward on his advisory position to the current White House. Take a look at Jimmy Baker’s current appointment on the Iraq commission. Same goes for the father of all the “dime a dozen generals”, Brent Scowcroft, and one of his new prot’s, General Joseph Ralston.
With “dime a dozen” generals on their boards of directors, numerous high-powered ex congressmen and senators at their disposal in the “K Street Lobby Quarter,” tens of millions of dollars in campaign donations, and billions of dollars at stake, the Military Industrial Complex surely had all the incentives to act just as foreign agents would, and fight for their highly valued client; the Saudi Government.
What more of a “Double standard” can there be than to declare a war on terror to get those who attacked us on 9/11 only to avoid holding to account those most responsible (the Saudi’s) and to not only allow them (the Saudi’s) to continue to support, fund and supply the terrorist whom are doing the most killing of Americans (90%) but now even “WE” are supporting Sunni factions of Al-Qaida. We are supporting and funding those Al-Qaida Sunni terror cells in Iran is so they can go after the Iranians. Which means we are the country that supports terror!
What about the FACT that Bush is supporting and funding those Al-Qaida Sunni terror cells?
Isnt it against the law to support or fund terrorist no matter if its directly or indirectly?
Cant those that are supplying and funding the terrorist be held as enemy-combtants?
Or is that just another law that he is above? - honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1“The 9/11 terror plot intersected with the activities of a drug trafficking network of international scope, in ways that form a “crystal clear” picture of what was going on,” said Edmonds.
A man in Saudi Makram Chams whose convenience store in Venice Florida was used by Mohamed Atta and his cadre of terrorist hijackers to receive overseas wire transfers, and from whose apartment Atta and Marwan took taxis to Orlando Airport to pick up visiting Saudis has suit in Saudi Arabia, for a whopping $21 million, against Titan Corporation of San Diego for not paying him the agreed amount for work he did before and up to 9/11!
In addition to owning a convenience store, the peripatetic Chams’ recent resume includes having been a partner in a Jack Abramoff-style gambling boat which operated for two years in Venice without permits, working for the FBI in San Diego, and pulling down multi-million dollar contracts in Saudi Arabia, one of which suspected of being with the Saudi Bin Laden Group, for controversial U.S. defense firm Titan Corp.
Strangely (or not) the FBI apparently never bothered to mention anything at all to the 9/11 Commission about Makram Chams. Even though “numerous local witnesses have stated that several of the terrorists basically hung out at (Chams’) Kwik Check.”
The FBI’s testimony before the 9/11 Commission revealed that the largest overseas money transfer the terrorists received had come from the UAE, for $70,000.
A copy of the money transfer was projected overhead.
What the FBI didn’t point out to the Commission was the significance of the address where the money was wired to: 201 Nokomis in Venice, the address of the Kwik-Check owned by Makram Chams, the man who shortly thereafter would be in Saudi Arabia procuring multi-million dollar contracts from the Saudi Bin Laden Group.
Atta and his fellow terrorists also availed themselves of a second floor apartment Chams rented in a building across the street from the convenience store. The apartment was occupied by his sister, May Chams, and her husband, an Indian Muslim named “Khal” who disappeared from Venice in the aftermath of the 9/11 attack.
Local Venice Yellow Cab driver Bob Simpson (whose testimony about Atta’s local associates was used by the FBI to apprehend a half-dozen Saudi nationals in Venice after the attack) says he picked up Mohamed Atta and his bodyguard Marwan at the apartment in his cab on several occasions, and taken them to the Orlando Airport.
Even Zacharias Moussaoui, whose presence in Venice, was confirmed was seen at Chams’ apartment.
“The FBI was especially interested in a rich Saudi guy, dressed in Armani, shades, manicure, and a gold Rolex, that I was sent to pick up at the Orlando Executive Airport,” said Simpson.
“They (the FBI) knew he’d ridden in my cab because they’d gotten my cab number from a surveillance camera there.”
Six weeks later, when Simpson received a call to go to the apartment to pick up the “rich Saudi in Armani and shades” and return him to the Orlando Airport,(Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi) the cabbie was asked to help carry a chest, the kind kept at the bottom of a bed, down from the apartment and load it into the trunk of the cab.
“It was so heavy it took two people to carry it. I could not believe anything that small could weigh that much! It must have weighed at least 150 pounds.”
Carrying the other end of the chest was someone Simpson recognized much later. “A big bald guy who I later identified as Zacharias Moussaoui helped me carry it down to the cab.”
At some point after the attack Chams abandoned the mini-market (it has stood vacant since) and left Venice.
A story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune called the abandoned convenience store, “A pocket of urban blight in the otherwise smartly tailored suit of downtown Venice.
Chams went to San Diego, said his sister, who worked at Barclay’s Pharmacy in Venice (the same pharmacy visited by Mohamed Atta and his Cairo lawyer father two weeks before the 9/1 attack.
Asked what he was doing in San Diego, she’d replied, “Helping out the FBI.”
Then recently we learned Chams had been working as a contractor in Saudi Arabia for controversial San Diego defense firm Titan Corp a 23-year old company which sells information and communication services to military and spy agencies, and has about 12,000 employees and revenues of about $2 billion a year.
An SEC filing last year Titan reported that Makram Chams had filed a $21 million lawsuit against them in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Apparently Titan didn’t hold the lawsuit against Chams, because he recently received a six-figure payout from Surebeam, a bankrupt Titan subsidiary which, in the aftermath of the anthrax scare had been the lucky recipient of a big windfall from the U.S. Post Office.
Surebeam announced in a press release that the post office “would use Surebeam’s electron beam systems to eliminate the threat of anthrax in the U.S. mail system.”
Despite there being not the slightest hint of scientific evidence that the company could perform as advertised, the firm was awarded a $40 million contract to set up machines to detect and kill anthrax spores,
Makram Chams had apparently landed a $5 million contract in Riyadh for Surebeam with the Saudi Bin Laden Group.
Surebeam, in a curious press release, had boasted of winning a $5 million contract in Saudi Arabia, “to build a network of Surebeam facilities within the Kingdom for pathogen and environmental pest control.”
Oddly, the company which gave Surebeam the $5 million contract went unnamed in the press release, identified only as “a private Saudi Arabian conglomerate headquartered in Riyadh;” and as “a leading Saudi company whose business dealings involve high rise construction, large living compound construction, hotel design and construction, oil and gas projects, defense and security contracts.”
Only one company fits this description, while at the same time being a firm Surebeam would have wanted to keep quiet about having as a business partner…The Saudi Bin Laden Group.
Makram Chams curious curriculum vitae includes having been a partner in a gambling boat called Vegas-in-Venice, owned by a Philadelphia man alleged to have ties to organized crime. The gambling vessel somehow managed to operate for almost two years in Venice, despite having no approval to do so from the city of Venice, County of Sarasota, or State of Florida.
The only other local partner in the gambling venture, Max Burge, also did business with Skyway Aircraft/Royal Son principal Frederick Geffon.
In addition the well-connected Burge owned the light planes used by the terrorists in their flight training at Huffman Aviation, Burge once owned the Sandpiper Apartments across the street the airport where Mohamed Atta spent several months living with Amanda Keller and where the DEA had been conducting their surveillance out of.
The DEA were secretly conducting their investigation of the drug smuggling from the same apartment building that Atta was staying at which was located right by the flight school.
Terror flight school owner Wally Hilliard’s company’s Lear (N351WB) had been busted by DEA agents armed with machine guns, who, during the same month Atta arrived at his school, found 43 pounds of Al Qaeda heroin onboard.
The same month Mohamed Atta arrived to attend his flight school in Venice, Huffman Aviation, the owner of that flight school, Wallace J. Hilliard, had his Lear jet confiscated on a runway at Orlando Executive Airport by DEA agents who found 43 pound of Bin Laden’s best uncut Al Qaeda heroin onboard.
It was, said the Orlando Sentinel, the “biggest drug bust in Central Florida history,”
How did a convenience store owner with unexplained links to Abramoff-style gambling boat interests connected with organized crime, and unexplained links with the terrorists in Venice, end up working for a well-connected defense contractor embroiled in numerous major controversies? - GraveyBrains, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0or more likely:
c> their use of non-warranted wiretapping uncovered domestic crimes that were followed up on by someone for the purposes of blackmail.
The GW crew diggin up dirt on congress...wonder why they'd wanna do that? - honestjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Sibel Edmonds, by all accounts, is special even amongst the breed of good multi-language translators. Just look at her history, and what she had to put up with. She’s gagged—and look what she still is able to come out with, working around the gag orders. Look at all the activities she initiates with NSWBC!
NOW READ HER RESPONSE TO A LETTER!
Thank you for your support; kind words.
I usually don’t respond to inquiries via e-mail; I don’t grant interviews in writing either.
However,
Quote #1- Accurate: “once this issue [9/11] gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain [American] people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally”
Quote#2- Accurate: “There is direct evidence involving no more than ten American names that I recognized”
Have a nice holiday.
Best,
Sibel
From the “most gagged person in American History.”
Senator Graham’s Revelation
It has been established that two of the 9/11 hijackers had a support network in the U.S. that included agents of the Saudi government, and that the Bush administration and the FBI blocked a congressional investigation into that relationship.
In his book, “Intelligence Matters,” Senator Bob Graham made clear that some details of that financial support from Saudi Arabia were in the 27 pages of the congressional inquiry’s final report that were blocked from release by the administration, despite the pleas of leaders of both parties in the House and Senate intelligence committees.
“The most serious omission, in my view, is part 4 of the report, which is entitled Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters. Those 27 pages have almost been entirely censured. The declassified version of this finding tells the American people that our investigation developed information suggesting specific sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers while they were in the United States. In other words, officials of a foreign government are alleged to have aided and abetted the terrorist attacks on our country on September 11, which took over 3,000 lives.”
“Our investigators found a CIA memo dated August 2, 2002, whose author concluded that there is incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi government. On September 11, America was not attacked by a nation-state, but we had just discovered that the attackers were actively supported by one, and that state was our supposed friend and ally Saudi Arabia.”
“We had discovered an FBI asset who had a close relationship with two of the terrorists; a terrorist support network that went through the Saudi Embassy; and a funding network that went through the Saudi Royal family.”
The Treasury and State Departments have catalogued the Saudi government’s decades of support for Bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
According to U.S. intelligence reports the Saudi government played a direct role in funding 9/11 and Saudi Arabia has an active role as a player in the nuclear black-market. Also the U.S. State Department’s Human Rights Report shows Saudi Arabia is a brutal dictatorship that makes Iraq under Saddam Hussein look like Disneyworld.
The Saudi funded Sunni insurgency has caused 90% of the American casualties and has cost the U.S. Taxpayers over 98% of total costs do to damages/destruction of military equipment that are in the billions. Second place is the normal wear and tear + desert sand. Third place is the Shiite insurgents.
U.S. intelligence reports and the U.S. Iraq Study Group report as well as Iraqi intelligence reports said Saudis are funding Sunni Arab insurgents and the money is used to buy weapons, including Strelas, Russian shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles.
If, indeed, the Iranians are funding, arming and training Shiite militias (who are responsible for 4% of American military deaths in Iraq and 6% of injuries inflicted on American military in Iraq) and we are threatening military action against Iran, then doesn’t it logically follow that we should be threatening military action against Saudi Arabia which has been funding the Sunni insurgency, (who is responsible for 90% of American military casualties) an insurgency that has killed far more Americans than the Shiite insurgency?
Why are we giving a free pass to the Saudis who are supplying money and weaponry to those doing the most killing of Americans in Iraq?
For the answer you have to look at 9/11.
Besides the FACT that according to U.S. intelligence reports Saudi Arabia has an active role as a player in the nuclear black-market.
And besides the FACT that the U.S. State Department’s Human Rights Report shows Saudi Arabia is a brutal dictatorship that makes Iraq under Saddam Hussein look like Disneyworld.
According to U.S. intelligence reports the Saudi government played a direct role in funding 9/11 and 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.
Who did the CIA memo dated August 2, 2002 say gave support for some of the September 11 hijackers while they were in the United States?
The Saudi government with its members of the Saudi Royal Family and members of the Bin Laden family with close ties to the royal family!
Who has direct financial ties to an oil, energy and weapons investment group which has raked in $Billions as a result of this War?
The Bin Laden family!
The bin Laden family has very strong ties in the Carlyle Group, a Washington-based investment company focused primarily in the arms, security, and energy industries.
Who was sued by the 9/11 victims family members for complicity in the attacks?
The Saudi Royal Family!
The Saudi Royal Family also has very strong ties to the Carlyle Group, which invests heavily in defense companies and is the nation’s 10th largest defense contractor with ties to Enron, Global Crossing, among others.
Who helped arange the evacuation of members of the Bin Laden Family after 9/11 and defended the Saudis against a lawsuit brought by the 9/11 victims family members?
A man who happens to be the senior counsel for the Carlyle Group!
Carlyle has profited immensely from the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars. Its legal matters are handled by Baker, Botts---James Baker’s law firm in Texas. Mr. Baker also has a personal interest in Carlyle, amounting to some $180 million. Another client of Baker, Botts is Exxon-Mobil.
Who on the morning of September 11th had a investor conference with members of the familys incontrovertibly tied to 9/11?
The Carlyle Group held an investor conference in the Ritz Carlton in Washington DC on the morning of September 11th, 2001 with members of the Bin Laden family and ect, tied to 9/11.
The Carlyle Group, a Washington, DC based private equity firm that employs numerous former high-ranking government officials with ties to both political parties, was the ninth largest Pentagon contractor between 1998 and 2003, an ongoing Center for Public Integrity investigation into Department of Defense contracts found. According to this report, overall, six private investment firms, including Carlyle, received nearly $14 billion in Pentagon deals between 1998 and 2003. Considering the fact that Saudi Arabia is the top buyer of the U.S. weapons industry, Carlyle’s investment and its stake, and of course Jimmy Baker’s far reaching influence within the Pentagon and congress, everything seems to come together and fit perfectly to shield this foreign interest no matter the price to be paid by the American public.
That is why were giving a free pass to the Saudis who are supplying money and weaponry to those doing the most killing (90%) of Americans and why the investigation on the Saudi 9/11 connection was stopped and why we are supporting and funding those Al-Qaida Sunni terror cells. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"They sold the Patriot Act as necessary legislation to fight terrorism and child exploitation. This looks like neither."
This was pre-PATRIOT Act. FISA has been around long before the PATRIOT Act. Get a clue. - m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5@warpirate
great work at blindly supporting Bush without doing any research into the matter
keep it up, you keep making your fellow republitards proud - Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1[ Argh. Misplaced comment. Wrong story even. O.o ]
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"so whats the standard for impeachment now, president has to eat babies live on fox news?"
You want to impeach Clinton over this? He's no longer in office. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2This happened pre 9/11. Any more bright observations? You make Bush look smart.
- swrostmore, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2"Even if it was just a rubber stamp, he provided the authority to do it."
Haha, he takes the phrase "rubber stamp" literally. Thats cute. - Tmacman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2First Libby, and now the whistle blowers come out. Reminds me of the Mellencamp song:
When the walls come tumblin' down
When the walls come crumblin' crumblin'
When the walls come tumblin' tumblin' down
Bush/Cheney - the end is coming. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+7It's being used to keep people within our government from blowing any whistles or staging any coups.
This has nothing to do with keeping this country safe..... It's about keeping the lid on it.
911 was an Inside Job!...and they'd do about anything to keep their story going - DerProfi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3"Scores of misinformed diggers prefer to rely on hackneyed quotes from famous people instead of actually thinking ***** through for themselves."
--Me - rmxz, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5On the other hand, the government listening in on other government workers seems less objectionionable in some ways than broadly listening in on random people. At least when they listen in on government communications it's kinda like a company monitoring it's own employee's emails rather than listening in on other ones. And for another spinnoff benefit, the government's more likely to notice how abusive these powers can be when they themselves know that they're victims of the abuses of these powers.
But what amazes me most is that these "high-profile U.S. public officials" are apparently using unencrypted communications to do their work. Surely they realize that even the phone company seems to be tapping into their communication if you believe a lot of the press these days (about hidden rooms; leaks of SS#s to hackers; the HP stuff, etc that show up on Digg regularly). Shouldn't all important confidential communication (especially governemnt, but corporate too) be encrypted these days? Surely the technology exists? no? - Skywise, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3I can't figure this out...
They're upset that
a> their use of non-warranted wiretapping uncovered domestic crimes that were never followed up on? (And they couldn't be because non-warranted wiretapping can't be used to prosecute criminal cases)
or
b> That they used non-warranted wiretapping and found domestic criminal activity and that was "bad"?
So the solution is to "blow the whistle" and leak information, gained "illicitly" according to them, about the "crime"?! -
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