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- MeMongo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+58Wow, the best cities are in Canada, Europe, and Australia while the worst are in Africa and southern Asia. Go figure
- DeadSkinMask, on 10/10/2007, -3/+55I'm from Vancouver and there is nowhere else in the world that I'd rather live.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+41If Toronto is #5 then the whole world must suck terribly.
- SonicBoom1000, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29Canada really is a great place to live, I wonder why Montreal didn't make the list though.
- gropo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25BUTBUT!! British Columbia's lax cannabis enforcement policies mean Vancouver should be a haven for baby rapists and serial vehicular homicides! It's a gateway drug! It must remain illegal to justify its illegality!
- Speciou5, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26A lot of the top 10 cities have relaxed marijuana policing.
Coincidence? I think not.. - Biskino, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22Woo! I've lived in both #1 Vancouver and # 132 Algiers.
Vancouver always tops out on these rankings and I'm never really sure why. The weather is depressing - as is the whole east end of the city. Kicks a** on Algiers tho'. - eternal464, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Quebec drivers must have something to do with it i suspect.
- Pilot85, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Too much risk of Godzilla! attacks.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -10/+20Because no one likes Frenchies :p
- DiggsOnlyNeoCon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10CONTACT THE BIOGRAPHERS
- kevinwiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Vancouver is beautiful. I'd love to live there one day.
- nacc, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12Toronto is nice, but its freakin over populated now. There is traffic every second of the day. It takes a hour to get to the suburbs to downtown because of the traffic.
- IEatHamburgers, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Well DUH, that's because nobody who went to rate the city ever returned in one piece.
- gropo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8The internets is getting less grammerier.
- cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I've been to Montreal a number of times and I can only say "Oui"... either you went to the wrong neighborhoods or you're making **** up. Montreal's a nice town, good restaurants, sexy women. If you go to a town armed with arrogance, you'll receive rudeness in return. It doesn't matter if it's Montreal, Miami, Cairo or Timbuktu. Treat people as people and with respect and humbleness and you'll be amazed.
- snotrokit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Me too! Too bad I don't live there. Damn. Actually, I have been there, and know many people from there, and it is on the top of places I would love to live.
- Lnomis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Where's bagdhad on this list? Or any city in a war-torn country for that matter?
- Bamborzled, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Nintendo of Canada is headquartered in Richmond, near Vancouver. And Microsoft decided to open in Richmond as well.
And the "author" is The Economist, not a blogger. - jerrycan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Are you sure you`re not thinking of Quebec City.... I went to McGill (an english university in Montreal) for my under grad and Masters. It`s an awesome place and I never encountered any crap like that. Montreal is pretty culturally diverse. I call BS.
- cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -9/+14Just goes to show how ignorant most people are to Baghdad. Even with all the bombings, it still has a lower crime rate compared to most South American and former Soviet bloc countries. There are entire neighborhoods that haven't seen violence, and if they do, it's usually criminal in nature. Most news reports of bombing are in the surrounding neighborhoods which they attribute to Baghdad for some strange reason. "Bombing northeast of Baghdad today" etc etc when it happens in Diyala, etc. Anyway, without getting too deep into fatality rates, only 70,000 people die in Iraq per year since the Iraq War started. It's less than the amount that died when Saddam was in power. It's less than the number of people who die due to hospital infections every year in the US. The media has you all fooled, they sell blood and bullets and you eat it up like it's chaos and constant anarchy over there. It's not the truth. Anyone who has served time in Baghdad will tell you that it's just life-as-always the majority of the time and that bombings and incidents are infrequent.
- saifatlast, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You might be right, but it's also fairly likely that they didn't even include Iraqi cities in the possibilities because of a lack of data, or because it's currently a warzone. Usually warzone countries aren't included in this type of survey.
Also, that number is the number of deaths associated with the war. Representing it as "the number of people who died in Iraq" is extremely misleading. Colombia, for example, historically has one of the highest murder rates in the world. There, though, 26,000 people were murdered on average per year between 1998 and 2000. Iraqi violent deaths are nearly 3 times as high. Iraq may not be as bad as the news makes it sound, but you damn well wouldn't want to live in Baghdad.
Sources (which in turn also list their sources):
http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/co-colombia/cri-crime - Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7"We can't turn right on a red light, but tabarnak, we can go right through it!"
- doktorrocket, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6arrrgh* :)
- knde, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I had a gut feeling that Lagos would be on the list! Yes…it would seem my mother’s adopted country always seem to make the worst lists :-(
The thing about Lagos is that not to far away from the slums, they are pockets of very luxurious living. My family has a house on Victoria Island (Lekki to be precise) and it IS possible to forget that you are in a third-world country.
In a funny twist, my English father actually prefers Africa, to my African mother. The VERY cheap luxury of having a cook, driver, maids and near most everything you want (as long as you can afford it) appeals greatly to him :-) - cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Thanks for your sensationalism and propaganda.
- TheRingmaster, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Luseton have you been to Montreal since 1954? I've actually spoken to people in Montreal in French and had them tell me they don't speak it and had to switch to English, and they live there while I don't. Somewhere around 95% of the people in Montreal speak fluent English, a large percentage of signage is English and an even larger one Bilingual. You may have had some bad experiences but that is no way representative at all of the city.
- CyberBlade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5YAY MELBOURNE :)
- carcass350, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I don't see how Mogadishu was kept out of the 10 worst.
- lsatkins, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Did you seriuosly not read the article? They specifically mention why Tokyo is not on the list.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7are*
- eliburford, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6go australia!
- break99, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5thanks for the laugh.
- wbgo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5They obviously didn't take the population of these places into account. Vienna is indeed a beautiful, extremely pleasant city, but the Viennese are arrogant, rude wankers.
Copenhagen's really that nice, though, and I didn't find living in Lagos that bad. - dubiousachiever, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8"but it is so far to the north..."
do you get nosebleeds at higher latitudes? lamest excuse ever. - Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Go Canucks!
- ae92, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I've been in Vancouver for a few years now; it's not perfect and housing prices are ridiculous (waiting for the impending "market correction" before I buy) but it is a pretty decent place to raise a family. The nightlife isn't up to what you'll find in Toronto or Montreal, maybe, and there's a bit of a cultural void which is probably due to the fact that people would rather be out enjoying the mild climate than indoors at a play or something, but I've never been anywhere with such a livable downtown core.
- rpgguy1o1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5it's good to be a Canuck of European decent with Aussie friends I guess
I would have put Montreal up there too, simply because of the poutine - axiomflash, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Toronto's suburbs didn't make the list.
- preisler, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5My city and country is really having a good week on these lists. No. 3 on the list of most atheist countries and now no. 8 here.
- rpgguy1o1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3hey you could always get a RIM job?
- enoshixi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5No.
- nicksauce, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4True that. I've been all over Canada and it's my favorite place (Vancouver 2nd)
- georgewellsca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3As a happy "Torontonian" I must agree - but I do love Toronto!
- stinkypyper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If you go there with an arrogant attitude then of course you will think everyone is rude. I always find that people who are from urban centers where it is culturally diverse love Montreal, but people from hick towns and the East Coast of Canada can't wrap there heads around the idea that they don't speak english and they hate it.
I love Montreal. Drinking age = 18, four universities, late last call, kick ass food, great subway system, beautiful old port, and awesome strip clubs. - wellyuk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3London? London is a fun city but it's in the UK. I currently live in the UK but early next year I'm moving to Vancouver. Why? Because the UK is a miserable place to live. It's got ***** weather, it's stupidly expensive, it's a depressing country to live in, I don't see a very positive future for the UK. I couldn't recommend it to anyone to visit. Over the last five or six years, possibly longer, people seem to have no ambition and are content to be continually ripped off. The sooner I see the back of this place, the better.
Oh, I live in Bristol (but am from Leeds) - they dress like gangsters but talk like farmers. - evildemonic, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7Thank you Cygnus, I was so glad to see somebody with perspective comment here. There are so many slanted cameras pointed at Iraq right now people think it is much worse, in comparison, than it really is. I would rather be in Baghdad than many more cities than those listed in the worst 10.
- Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3as a perthian who as moved around quite a lot during my lifetime I must say that for a capital city perth is a very nice, very green, very peaceful, and relativley very small capital city.
infact we are the most isolated capiltal in the world (sucks for release dates and postage times though, but you learnt to live with the 2 day overnight delivery times) - eexlebots, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You are one the worst posters I have seen in a long time.
- Buelldozer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm no eco-nut but you should recognize that city living is an unsustainable way of life. A city dweller produces almost nothing that they need to survive. Everything from water to food to building materials to medicines must be trucked in from somewhere else.
You talk about how city people walk / bike / mass transit everywhere but how do you think all of the building materials, fuel, food, electricity, and finished goods GOT to you? Also, where do you think all of your waste, both human and other, goes?
For another idea of waste in a city, how many street and traffic lights are in city larger than 100,000? How much electricity do you think that infrastructure requires for support?
Essentially your idea of "livable urban design" is to consume the resources of everything around you while feeling smug about how efficiently you use resources? I can't stop laughing at you!
Cities are horrible, wasteful, unsustainable places and the larger the city the worse it is regardless of where it's at in the world.
Country living is excellent, sustainable if done right, and far more pleasant. -
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