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- blueracer6, on 10/12/2007, -16/+449What? Anna Nicole isn't on the cover?
Lame. - jackelsmack, on 10/12/2007, -17/+342We Americans don't like news about anywhere that isn't America. It tends to reflect poorly on our foreign policies.
- kypen, on 10/12/2007, -7/+198Newsweek is just as guilty of this:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/newsweeks-latest-cover-by-geographical-region/
It is quite sad. Notice how similar the content of the covers are.,,,
And before you go posting about how bias thinkprogress is, I agree to an extent, but they seem to have stable servers under digg load and this picture is nearly everywhere. - FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -11/+182People seem to be missing the point this submission is making. This is not about Time or Newsweek being in some sort of conspiracy. Its a reflection on what Americans are interested in and care about as a whole. Time and Newsweek are simply periodicals trying to sell as many copies as they can.
- SamKellett, on 10/12/2007, -14/+112"We Americans don't like news about anywhere that isn't America"
When I went to visit America last year I saw the weather forecast for the state I was in (Ohio), after that they weatherman announced "And now for the weather in the rest of the world:" Going on to talk about the weather in California, Texas, Washington, etc...
I love the American attitude. - mikeneilson, on 10/12/2007, -32/+127@bigdane:
If you think health insurance is expensive now, wait until it's free. - geoken, on 10/12/2007, -5/+74"Newsweek is just as guilty of this:"
Wow. The American cover is like the graphical version of Soma. - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -22/+90The Bible has no place in public schools.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -7/+73Think? Try "know."
- BigDane, on 10/12/2007, -39/+89Does anyone want to move to Canada with me? I love America but free health insurance is damn enticing.....
- InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -7/+50This is why you should read news from foreign news sources. The sad truth is that the US media is not nearly as strong or independent as many would like to think it is. News in the US is profit-based and there is a fear that printing unpopular news will cut into those profits. The result is watered-down news dominated by American Idol scores and Anna Nicole intrigue.
Those who followed the foreign press before the start of the Iraq war knew that the intelligence used to justify it was based on *****. Here we are four years later, and the US media is only now beginning to acknowledge that. - LiveFastDieOld, on 10/12/2007, -16/+56Wait -- who cares? Magazines do this all the time. The US version has BOTH stories — putting the Bible story on the cover is simply a sales issue
****Look at the list of "MOST POPULAR" stories: #2 is the "Talibanistan" story. #1 is the Bible story.****
Time Magazine is in the business of making money. Why wouldn't they market themselves to sell as many issues as possible? - vulcanius, on 10/12/2007, -21/+57I hope the article is a satire.... otherwise I believe I just lost the little respect I had for Time.
- greatclare, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42It is a biggie because it shows that in order to sell magazines in the USA you need to pander to idiocy while elsewhere you can engage in *some* critical thinking to sell magazines. It reflects poorly on the USA.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+48"I love America but free health insurance is damn enticing....."
If you pay for it, it's not free. - William01, on 10/12/2007, -11/+39The United States spends more on health care per capita than any other industrialized nation but does not receive more services, according to a study published on Tuesday in the July/August issue of Health Affairs, the Los Angeles Times reports. For the study -- led by Gerard Anderson, a health policy professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health -- researchers analyzed the health care costs of 30 nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The study found:
* The nations examined spend a median of $2,193 per capita on health care;
* The United States spent $5,267 per capita for prescription drugs, hospital stays and physicians visits in 2002, compared with $3,446 per capita for Switzerland, the next highest spender;
* Health care spending accounted for 14.6% of the U.S. gross domestic product in 2002, a time when only two other nations -- Switzerland and Germany -- spent more than 10% of their GDP on health care;
* The United States has 2.9 hospital beds per 1,000 residents, compared with a median of 3.7 beds per 1,000 residents among the other nations examined;
* The United States had 2.4 physicians per 1,000 residents in 2001, compared with a median of 3.1 physicians per 1,000 residents among the other nations examined in 2002;
* The United States had 7.9 nurses per 1,000 residents in the United States in 2001, compared with a median of 8.9 nurses per 1,000 residents among the other nations examined in 2002;
* The United States has 12.8 CT scanners per one million U.S. residents, compared with a median of 13.3 scanners per one million residents among the other nations examined;
* The United States appears to have more magnetic resonance imaging machines per capita than many of the other nations examined, but the machines are used only 10 hours daily in the United States, compared with a median of 18 hours daily in other nations; and
* The average medical malpractice payment, which included both settlements and judgments, was $265,103 in the United States in 2001, compared with $309,417 in Canada and $411,171 in Britain.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=27348 - zer0_sleep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28I'm pretty damn sure he was being sarcastic.
- starcrunchfx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29It's not against the law to teach the Bible in schools. It is against the law to teach christianity only in schools for example. A standard religon class that covers the biggest religions would be great.
- DDRSkata, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34You know, because liberals think we should teach the Bible in school.
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27@omgbanana
"Now, whose fault is it that they had children?"
Definitely not the children's. They still deserve health care, even if their parents can't afford it. - afpunk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27ftljohnson,
You are so ignorant to the plight of the poor in this country that it's pathetic. Here's a 100% true story instead of the hypothetical ***** that you just spouted.
I worked at a fast food restaurant in high school. Certainly, I didn't need to. While my family is by no means rich, we do well enough, especially for the rural area in which we live. I was lucky to be able to spend the money on crap I didn't need. One of my coworkers was not quite as lucky. While we went to the same school, he was 2 grade levels below me and I didn't really know him before we ended up working together. I knew he wasn't the best student and it was actually quite legendary that he had attendance problems. I could've easily assumed the worst of him, but instead we became friends. Not best friends or anything, but certainly above an acquantince level.
Slowly I learned why he was absent from school so often. He lived with his mother and recently graduated older sister. While his sister kept a job, his mother suffered from terrible depression. To put it bluntly, he stayed with her so she wouldn't kill herself, and his sister did likewise while he worked at night. While the mother did have jobs occasionally, she couldn't hold any good position, certainly not long enough to get health insurance. The family was stretched so thin that there's no way they could've paid for mental health care, so they were caught in this vicious cycle. Eventually my friend had to drop out of school, after being frustrated at being failed automatically for missing a day of summer school in which his mom was in particularly bad shape.
(Before someone mentions it, no, there is no free clinic available for citizens in the county).
So please, in your infinite wisdom, tell me how a family put in this situation is supposed to get out? Please tell me how much you would hate to help people who truly need it. When people tell me how great the health care system is in this country I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or punch them in the face to knock some sense into them. - JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23"Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the American people." - P.T. Barnum
- SammyJr, on 10/12/2007, -10/+32@ lbmouse
To be honest, I'd love health care than runs like the USPS. They're the cheapest, treat my packages well, and never seem to lose anything. They're my first choice for my package delivery needs. Now if I could sing the same praises of my health care. - FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Guess what, ftl, not everyone lives in white suburbia like you. Some people don't have the opportunity to get a decent paying job. Some people don't have the opportunity to go to college. Some people support an entire family on a minimum wage job. These people need help.
But I guess since you don't see these problems, you shouldn't have to deal with them.
note: "Maybe if the government stopped REGULATING the crap out of the health care industry... the costs would come down... If it didn't cost BILLIONS to test each drug - to go through a process that would now not even pass ASPIRIN."
I very much agree with you there^^ - LoopyChew, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Strangely enough, nearly ALL of Time Magazine's issues have different covers for the Europe and the U.S. editions! OH NOES!
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601070305,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601070212,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601061218,00.html
...okay, maybe there's one which isn't different.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601061225,00.html - CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27"They'd prefer to come to the States and pay out of their own pocket rather than wait 6 mos to have a procedure done or maybe one that the govt gatekeepers rejected. I think I like our system that isn't bloated by govt bureaucracy. Would you really want a health care system that is ran like the USPS?"
For surgeries maybe (waiting lists here can be long), but for things like trips to the E.R and going to the doctor for antibiotics, this system is much better for everyone, imo. Especially for those with diseases which they wouldn't otherwise be able to take care of properly. - m0nk, on 10/12/2007, -16/+33First of all, there shouldn't even be a debate about teaching the bible in schools. That's absurd, against the law, and the constitution. Secondly, why does that matter more than yet another Bush disaster in foreign policy that's going to be a shadow on US foreign relations for years to come?
- vulcanius, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26Key word here: "stories"
- thefirelane, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20>while elsewhere you can engage in *some* critical thinking to sell magazines
I was with you, until then. Why are the other covers 'critical thinking'.... couldn't it just be that the audience is knee jerk anti-US and enjoys stories about its failure? - nestorius, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Canadian edition has the Bible article on the cover.
- PiratedTVPro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"That's absurd, against the law, and the constitution." No, it's not. I took an Advance Placement class in High School that taught the bible as fiction.
If you knew about the article it goes into how important all religious information is, especially religion training of foreign religions, so that we don't raise a generation of idiots who know of Muslims as nothing more than "The Towel-Heads Who Caused 9/11". If you know what they believe, what they stand in, and why they do what they do (all of which are tied into their religion as much as ours is) then you gain a better understanding of them, and might think twice before launching that missile. - supaphly42, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20It depends how you teach it. If you teach it as just a literary work that has, in fact, had a large impact on Western culture, that's fine. However, I have a problem with teaching it as anything more.
- deabyss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Really guys. There is so much government spending (and squandering) of money that you have to argue over a national health care system? Why not cut some of the BS programs that are around. Let's start with subsidies to huge megacorps that don't need the charity. While you are at it, why not cut the defense budget as well? As it stands, we have actually lost (as we can't find) billions of dollars that was spent on the Iraq war. Ever since Rumsfeld's idea that contractors are "part of the military" we have seen these companies gouging us while providing very little. We are already paying into medicare systems out of our wages, lets use that money more effectively.
The whole idea of socializing health care is the same as why we have police, fire dept, and well-fare system. It keeps people secure in their houses. Lets add healthy, and those of you who are worried about men with guns taking your money won't have to worry about providing health care to your employees anymore.
And even if you do not agree with socializing health care, you need to at the very least accept the reality that we do have a health crisis on our hand. Accepting that the problem exists is the first step in trying to solve it. - LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Religion is an important subject. But in a public school you either teach ALL religious - for educational purposes, or you teach NONE of them - otherwise it's favortism.
Keep you religion out of the public system or teach it alongside (equally I might add) with the other great religions of the world. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19Keep in mind that the story is still in the U.S. Edition.
- William01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Those numbers are included. For most of the countries in the study, if you only used money spent out of pocket, not including taxes, the total would be pretty close to zero per capita.
- mortbort, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I wish I could bury every comment on this page simultaneously.
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@ftl
I'm glad that you are content with the fact that underprivileged citizens are suffering and dying due to their inability to get health care because its a sign of Americans being 'free'. - lbmouse, on 10/12/2007, -32/+44@bigdane
This no such thing as "free" health insurance or "free" health care. Somebody has to pay for it somewhere. I've lived in a couple of states that border Canada and its amazing to see all the Canadian license plates in doctor office parking lots. They'd prefer to come to the States and pay out of their own pocket rather than wait 6 mos to have a procedure done or maybe one that the govt gatekeepers rejected. I think I like our system that isn't bloated by govt bureaucracy. Would you really want a health care system that is ran like the USPS? - FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18One could easily argue that this is rightist propaganda.
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@ftl
I'm glad to see that you donate time and money to charity. That is a very good habit. I also spend my time volunteering weekly and donating money when I can.
It appears we both see that these problems exist for some people through no fault of their own (correct me if I'm wrong). We disagree, however, on whether or not the government should aid these people. I believe that is what a government is for - helping ALL of its populace. Do you believe that we, as a society, have no obligation to help these people? Do you believe that, even with the proper programs in place, its a lost cause? - urinnerchild87, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Honestly putting a bible thing on the cover would probably grab more attention, and therefore the readers would eventually read the taliban story. just having the taliban story on the cover would probably discourage people from reading the magazine, since most americans are sick and tired of hearing about the war.
- Wogna, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19Here's why.
The "Talibanistan" story is in all editions of the magizine. The Bible story is not in the European/Asian editions. Thus, the Bible story could not be on the cover in those editions since it does not exist, so the next biggest article was put on the cover.
The Bible article exists in America, and the editors apparently either liked it better, or thought it'd sell better than the "Talibanistan" article, so they put it on the cover instead.
End of conspiracy. - Jawsh91, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@MrKite
"I'm totally convinced that Americans who say "I'm moving out of this country" etc, etc. haven't been anywhere else in the world."
I'm pretty sure you have haven't been anywhere else in the world, or at least, experienced Canadian health care first hand.
I am a Canadian and guess what, for some reason I'm doing fine after a broken finger (got a cast around my wrist + hand and left in ~1 hour), and, back in December, a quite badly broken elbow. I had to undergo surgery for the elbow and got 2 metal plates, 11 screws and a pin inside my arm. I've been doing great and all I had to pay for was to rent the TV in my room :)
I've been doing fine and I can tell you with FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE (try it sometime) that the Canadian health care system is NOWHERE NEAR as "horrible" as you say it is. - PleaseBeSerious, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Because the average U.S. citizen doesn't care about what is happening in Afghanistan. Wasn't that obvious when we invaded Iraq?
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18@ftl
But even the poor can send mail. They don't have access to health care. - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9..so do shootings and I can't go a day without them being on the news..........
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13@ftl
Good idea, while we're at it why don't we disarm the military services and rely on the public to donate their time and money to defend themselves.
Why don't we dissolve the school districts and rely on the public to donate their time and money to educate themselves.
Why don't we just do away with taxes and allow the public to spend money in the way they so choose.
Actually, why don't we disband the government and let the people do what they want with their time and money.
The fact is, we have a government (as much as it seems like a pain in the ass sometimes) so that we can be prosperous. We have taxes so money can be spent in an organized manner. We have public schools so that there is a national standard of learning. We have military so there is an organized national defense.
And we should have universal health care so that EVERYONE can get the help they desperately need. Period. - andrewmi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"Why Time you were one of the few news outlets I actually liked."
I picked up a Time at the bookstore a couple of weeks ago and was shocked. The magazine is full of 100 to 200 word long "stories" - little snippets of pseudoinformation that appeal to Americans with short time spans (read: nearly all Americans). It was driving me crazy. So many of the little snippet stories had a decent premise, but they were never explored because no time or space was devoted to actually getting readers any information. I think Time may have gone the USA Today route: less content, prettier colors, and uncomplicated stories that appease a lower common denominator. Maybe I'm weird for preferring real stories when I read news, but anyway I prefer not to read Time.
There was one (maybe two) "long" stories in the edition I looked at - one or two pages to a few pages long. I wonder whether the cover article is the only one which receives a full length article, in which case the U.S. edition could contain a shortened version of the Taliban piece, or not include it at all (unlikely; why waste an article?). Does anybody have the U.S. edition that can be checked? - aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I work in a public school in Australia and our education department has put out notices to let teachers know that they must not use there personal religious and political beliefs to effect how they teach. Certainly here, the bible has no part in our public schools.
BTW. We have free (actually very heavily subsidised) health care and the quality of our health care is on par if not better than the US. It all comes down to how the government distributes its funds. At least here, very poor families can be sure that any ailments can be checked up with no cost. -
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