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There Are 11.4 Million Refuges on Earth

hosted.ap.org — Tents, sacks of food and a replica of a burnt-out village hut appeared in Trafalgar Square on Tuesday as a tourist hotspot became a refugee camp to highlight the plight of millions of people displaced in Darfur and elsewhere.

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ileen4justice, on 06/18/2008, -9/+10I am ashamed....................Have you heard this one: Global warming could create 150 million environmental refugees - but the countries responsible are in no hurry to carry their share of the costs......http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2003/oct/15/ ... for the awareness..
- PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -6/+7Have you heard this one? Man Made Global Warming is an agenda.
  
  Far from Laurie David's assertion that "the debate is over", it turns out that most scientists, and I'm not talking about the non-climate related scientists they always refer to, but most climatoligists and meteorologists are still not entirely sure about any of this science claiming man's activity is responsible for global warming, or even if the planet is, in fact, warming. At least, if it is warming, they still debate whether it is warming in the short term, and whether that indicates that it will keep warming, or if eventually it will cool again, and then warm again, and so on.
  
  Global Warming is a political agenda. Stop being a knee-jerk reactionist and inform yourself.
  - bionictrout, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1So I can be "informed"... Why don't you give me some of your sources. Everything I can find (that isn't funded by an oil company) seems to contradict what you wrote. A citation would be nice.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -1/+2http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=0707051914 ...
      
      http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_sola ...
      
      http://www.jbs.org/node/4586
      
      http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,2 ...
      
      http://www.standard-freeholder.com/ArticleDisplay. ...
      
      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article13 ...
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Those were just a few. but every time I try to post this comment, the links appear as above, and the comments below disappear. I must be offending someone, because I cannot post this comment intact.
      
      I've been reading up on this for 6 years, now. I can tell you, it is just as true that there is global warming as it is true that there is such a thing as peak oil.
      
      To blow your mind even further, look up "abiotic oil". Back in the early days of oil, they called it "rock oil". It was only after they realized that something as ubiquitous as water wouldn't make a lot of money, so they came up with the story that Oil was the result of fossils from millions of years ago.
      
      Turns out, it is a product of geological activity, much like coal and diamonds.
      
      Welcome to the uncontrolled information of people who don't have a profit or political interest in misinforming you.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=0707051914 ...
      
      http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_sola ...
      
      http://www.jbs.org/node/4586
      
      http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,2 ...
      
      http://www.standard-freeholder.com/ArticleDisplay. ...
      
      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article13 ... -- That's a good one!
      
      http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2f4 ... -- another good one!
      
      http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/3/5/11 ...
      
      This is just a few. I've been reading up on this for 6 years, now. I can tell you, it is just as true that there is global warming as it is true that there is such a thing as peak oil.
      
      To blow your mind even further, look up "abiotic oil". Back in the early days of oil, they called it "rock oil". It was only after they realized that something as ubiquitous as water wouldn't make a lot of money, so they came up with the story that Oil was the result of fossils from millions of years ago.
      
      Turns out, it is a product of geological activity, much like coal and diamonds.
      
      Welcome to the uncontrolled information of people who don't have a profit or political interest in misinforming you.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Finally got it. I put a comment next to two links, with <-- (the less than sign and two dashes) and that killed the rest of my comment and made all the links broken.
      
      AJAX is touchy.
    - AugustusOsari, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1As far as the oil goes, none of that is proven or even close to it. Don't present things as fact if they are not.
      
      Not to say you're wrong, but you're making yourself out to be right when you can't be sure.
      
      You're right about global warming, though.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1How can I be right about Global Warming, while I can't be sure about abiotic oil?
      
      I have done a lot of research on both topics. I can't say that I know for a fact on either topic, but I am pretty sure that the science leads towards both abiotic oil and global warming being an ideology rather than a fact.
      
      So might I be wrong to "present things as fact" about abiotic oil, while the global warming crowd insists on presenting it as not only fact, but dogma?
    - ileen4justice, on 06/18/2008, -2/+1OH NEOCON BOY -- YOUR LINKS ARE AS DEAD AS YOUR TWISTED BRAIN.
    - ileen4justice, on 06/18/2008, -2/+1Oh and STOP using the Grateful Dead's legend Phil Lesh for your neocon agenda!! It's an insult to the Grateful Dead!!
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1So sad that you think that way.
      
      I am a conservative, but I am in no way a neocon.
      
      Check out my comment history. I get accused of being a liberal more often than I get accused of being a neocon. In fact, that may be a first here on digg, my being accused of supporting the neocons.
      
      Abiotic oil is not a neocon agenda. They love the idea of keeping the artificial scarcity of oil, it drives profits and can be used as justification for wars.
      
      Global Warming only appears to be a democratic or liberal agenda, but it in fact supports the same globalist agenda that the neocons surreptitiously drive towards.
      
      What is a carbon credit? Nothing more than a global tax.
      
      I will keep using PhilLesh as my screen name because I think he is the greatest bassist of all time. He melded his bass with two drum kits to create the best space jams anyone has ever heard. They sounded even better after taking a hit of tweety bird or calvin and hobbes. Half the time I never even made it into the stadium, I just sat outside the stadium and listened to the din.
      
      How many shows have you seen? Don't tell me to not use Phil Lesh's name as my screen name unless you've been to more than 23 shows, and especially if you didn't go and see them the second night at RFK in 1995, 9 shows before Jerry died. Of course, if you saw him July 9th at Soldier's Field for his last concert before dying, that counts for something.
  - argo2d, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1labelling things knee jerk reactionary to subdue people with actual facts is a politial tactic. Hypocrisy disgusts me.
    
    No this warming is not short term. If you claim that it is still up for debate on whether this is just another one of our planet's cycles, then I have to say you're the one who has not been doing your research. Every scientist worth his or her salt with any authority on the matter knows that we are changing the climate of the planet in a devastating fashion. If this is still really being debated, it is being debated by a small circle of elitists (oil magnates aside) with their heads in the sand while the rest of us are frantically trying to save their ivory towers from floods and droughts.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1No. Sheryl Crow and Laurie David say that every scientist agrees, and that the debate is over.
      
      However, that is hyperbolic propoganda.
      
      The fact is, even a large number of IPCC scientists now say that they were wrong to sign onto such an ideologically blind and dogmatic study (you know, the IPCC that Al Gore shared the nobel prize with?)
      
      Everything you wrote is almost a verbatim talking point. There really is still valid and scientifically open debate on the matter. Rather than buy into an idea without further information, you should do a little bit of googling.
  - ileen4justice, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1Please cite me the scientific studies you so blindly refer to you. Do you really need a scientist when icebergs the size of Connecticut are breaking off the polar ice cap and melting? When polar bears are being wiped out? When there is unprecedented weather a la Iowa? When there are new species born with its head backwards? When right before your eyes the earth is drying up and snow-capped mountains are no longer snow-capped? Wake up you right wing neocon twisted propagandist!!
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1dude, I'm not a neocon. Look around at all of my other comments here on digg. I despise neocons, I hate George Bush, I hate PNAC, I even have my doubts about the official story on 9/11.
      
      The polar bears are not being wiped out. They showed a touching picture of a polar bear on an iceberg, and people forgot that polar bears swim.
      
      Flooding in Iowa defies the logic of the global warming alarmists. Iowa should become a desert by their logic.
      
      Animals are born with their heads backwards, or with male and female parts, or with 6 arms or legs because of POLLUTION, not a warmer planet.
      
      Please, I beg of you, if you really are concerned about this planet, abandon the global warming globalist agenda and focus on the pollution, the destruction of habitats and liveable areas of our world. Our water is undrinkable, containing perchlorate (a rocket fuel ingredient), trihalomethanes, pharmaceutical residuals from people's excretion, agricultural runoff, and god know's what else. Our air is filled tainted with all sorts of fluorides, heavy metals and other carcinogens. Even our food is shown in medical studies to be largely responsible for higher cancer rates than anywhere else in the world.
      
      Global Warming is a catch all fear that is sucking up all the environmentalist energy, diverting people from all the valid and pressing problems they once worked hard to fix or bring attention to.
- Barackalypse, on 06/18/2008, -4/+2Yeah, and according to people like you its also my fault that there's still slavery, children working in sweatshops, racism, and the rain forests are being cut down. But you know what, it isn't my fault and I'm not changing the way I live my life to accommodate other people's problems. Perhaps these refugees should take some responsibility for the problems in their countries instead of running away. Stand up and fight, you might die, but at least it won't be like whipped dogs in a camp somewhere.
  - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Yeah, and the people who were displaced by Katrina in Louisiana should have just stood up for themselves against mother nature.
    
    The folks in Indoesia should have stood down that tsunami.
    
    The women and children in Darfur should have stood up against the Janjaweed Militias toting AK47s, and not allowed themselves to be raped and murdered.
    
    You have a twisted idea about how people become refugees. They were not all sitting around one day talking about the facts of life and all came to the conclusion that they should become victims.
    
    Maybe your life is a little too comfortable to understand these things. Perhaps you should think what would happen to your wife and children if some sort of disaster occurred in your home town, or if you were forced to flee your home because some nutcase militia was rushing towards your home wanting to kill everyone in it's path.
    
    Think about all the people in Iowa, Missouri and other places that are suffering the flooding of the Mississippi and other rivers. Those people should just shut up and deal with it, right? It's their fault for not being in control and preventing their plight?
    
    You suffer from logic that doesn't even make sense.
- seomike, on 06/18/2008, -1/+4Global cooling wiped out the Greenland Viking colonies in the middle ages. Ya never hear about that much though, would mean that the climate was hot enough to support crops on the fringes of the Artic Circle. But that wouldn't fit the template of ITS NEVER BEEN THIS HOT BEFORE now would it?
- JointVenture, on 06/18/2008, -2/+1***** off.
  
  If you're so concerned buy yourself a plane ticket and fly your crying ass over there so you can see for yourself how the NGO's spend donations.
  
  One drive down the NGO lane in Phnom Phen was enough for me.
  - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1Phnom Penh was 35 years ago, idiot.
    
    And there is no "NGO lane" in Phnom Penh. The Khmer Rouge exterminated all educated people in 1975.
    
    You are a generation too late in your claims to being an NGO. We've all seen the skulls stacked 6 feet high. If you were working for an NGO, you failed.
    - JointVenture, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1You stupid ***** *****.
      
      Phnom Penh is a ***** city. If you had ever been there you would know that there is a main drag where all the NGO's have their headquarters with Range Rovers and Land Cruisers parked in front of mansions.
      
      WTF are you talking about?
      
      Do you know what a ***** NGO is?
      
      You need to be slapped.
      
      You're an embarrassment to the DH community.
davidhallstrom, on 06/18/2008, -7/+4Good informative heart touching post. Thank you.
Feep, on 06/18/2008, -5/+3811.4 million refuges is good news. How many refugees are there?
- greenlight2001, on 06/18/2008, -2/+18Well, with 11.4 refuges, there should be plenty of room for all the refugees.
  - Xplorer, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Hell our local paper had the same type-o today..... 2XE plz....
shithitinthefan, on 06/18/2008, -7/+0Tom Petty told a crowd of refuges that "Somebody somewhere must have kicked you around some".
Sagags, on 06/18/2008, -12/+2This is a sad reminder of the events at hurricane Katrina
- santaliqueur, on 06/18/2008, -1/+8Katrina? You forgetting about the, oh...250,000 people killed in the tsunami a few years ago?
- Sagags, on 06/18/2008, -3/+1I don't recall a tsunami in America, but I do remember the terrible hurricane in New Orleans, that killed hundreds and displaced many of our African America brothers.
  - JointVenture, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1You mean the looters?
  - auto98, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Yeah sagags that was the point - there have been far worse things than katrina, but a certain mentality of american doesn't think that is important
studmuffnin, on 06/18/2008, -7/+4there are untold millions who don't care :'(
- PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -2/+2They should stop watching fox news, where they are told that it is the victim's fault.
  - Barackalypse, on 06/18/2008, -2/+3You can choose to put your head down and suffer whatever injustices the world throws at you, or you can stand tall and fight to make your country a better place. This isn't my fight, these aren't my countries.
    - iticu, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2"News just In; Terrorists disrupt the peace in Darfur as Police try to keep the situation under control."
cbodall, on 06/18/2008, -10/+9who cares
- Sagags, on 06/18/2008, -4/+2yea this isn't even in America so its not like it matters
- madmonkey300, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1the constitution doesn't care, but as a human being, I do.
PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -9/+4There are at least 750,000 homeless here in America.

Aren't they refugees as well, one way or another? Maybe they don't walk hundreds of miles to refugee camps, and maybe that is because there are no refugee camps for them. They just lost out in the Capitalist society (that wasn't part of the founding of America, it just slipped it's way in and became an unelected, unmandated system. At least Communists held a revolution) and nobody is setting up refugee camps to take care of them. They just need to find a subway grate or an underpass, and maybe panhandle a bit here and there until they just die off.

For the uninformed or lazy, let me explain that Capitalism is no different from Socialism and Communism. BUT, this country got tricked into believing that it was a capitalist society, while Socialism and Communism needed to foment revolution or put it up for referendum before those nations adopted that ideology.

This country is a Democracy, not a capitalist society. Capitalism and Communism, and Socialism are all ideas of those who control production, they are all ideologies that want to control production and manage labor in slightly different ways.
- PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -3/+1I know there are a bunch of fools out there who will read my above post and say "But if we aren't a capitalist country, does that make us communist?"
  
  They don't realize that before all of these ideologies existed, America was a free market nation built upon the merchant class. It did quite well as a democracy, where the people were free to undertake any business enterprise that suited them.
  
  Capitalism is not what America was founded on. America was founded on free trade, with the understanding that the state would regulate that free trade in a manner that protected all citizens from undue power and influence.
  
  Capitalism seeks to acquire that undue power and influence, in order to prevent competitors and threats against profit and control.
  
  But we were duped. We were told this was the way just after World War One, and it was repeated after the end of World War Two, as the capitalists embarked on the cold war against the communists. And that was simply a war between two sects within the elite establishments of all countries.
  - seomike, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1This country is a Republic... Or a Representative Republic. You sounded so smart until you said we're a Democracy. I'd have given you some more smart points if you said we are an Oligarchy since federal appeals courts in California seems to think a few judges can overturn the majority vote of the people.
    
    Capitalism is based on principles of free agency. Never has a civilization ever advanced so fast technologically as ours. It is because there wasn't anything holding it back. If there was a need, problem someone convinced a capitalist to invest into the solution. Or a capitalist saw a problem that could be solved and paid for the development of technology or machinery to solve it and make a profit. There is nothing wrong with that.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1I'm not talking about what we are now. I'm talking about our founding principles.
      
      You sounded so smart until you said we are republic.
      
      A Bush Administration official told a reporter back in 2002, "We're an empire now. While you are trying to figure out the current reality, we are inventing new realities"
      
      We SHOULD BE a democracy. Even a republic is a bad idea. A true democracy, if left unchanged and not altered to serve the powerful, can last for centuries.
      
      Once you move forward into republic or empire, you have created the conditions for a collapse.
      
      It happened in Rome, it Happened in Greece, it happened in Assyria and Egypt, and all other past empires.
    - auto98, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2seomike - you sounded so smart until you said "Never has a civilization ever advanced so fast technologically as ours" - ever hear of the industrial revolution?
- dgblackout, on 06/18/2008, -1/+3tl;dr.
- trollhunter, on 06/19/2008, -0/+0Phil - careful with yr pearls when yr feeding teh swine, mate.
  
  dgblackout et al is only interested in the french fries and twinkies.... the pink twinkies especially... with the shiny sparkly bits
TwistyMcFister, on 06/18/2008, -3/+11WTB grammar check

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee
- PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -3/+2I think you should forgive the digger who posted this article for his typing mistake, rather than dismissing the message over his mistake.
  - Laiden, on 06/18/2008, -0/+10Are you insane? We are at WAR. We have no time for reading posts with spelling erors.
    - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -2/+1You're are right. Your the man.
      
      We are at war. The barbarians are at the gayt. We halve no time to waist.
- ohplease, on 06/18/2008, -1/+2
  
  Spelling isn't grammar. Grammar is sentence structure, not spelling.
  - PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1Forgive the public school graduates. They know not what they speak.
benroy, on 06/18/2008, -1/+8If I decide to flee my native land (the U.S.) because of government oppression and economic woes does that make me a refugee?
Or just a Fugee-Wanna-Be?
- PhilLesh69, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1depends on how much money you take with you.
- seomike, on 06/18/2008, -2/+2makes you a dumb ass. Cubans flee here because of the things you listed are actually happening in their country.
- Haoie, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1I'm sure you're joking, but no it wouldn't. You'd just be a regular immigrant, presumably as you're from a rich/powerful nation.
- swiftheart, on 06/18/2008, -0/+0It's in the eye of the beholder (receiving nation.) I could see a circumstance in which a country decided that Americans were refugees (perhaps for political/grandstanding purposes...a way of the receiving country telling American that it sucks.)
  
  Countries dealing with civil war or unmitigated disaster seem to be natural recipients of refugee status for their people. I'd add to that people who don't have citizenship somewhere. (It seems to me anyone who is given a laissez-passer in lieu of a normal passport may reasonably be called a refugee, even if they have a "safe home.")
egoideal, on 06/18/2008, -1/+511.4 million refuges? Well at least refugees have plenty of places to stay. Lucky bastards.
- feoren, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Yeah, think of all the refugees that could be accommodated by 11.4 million refuges!
zeroepoch, on 06/18/2008, -6/+27Now only if we could get them all to download firefox 3.
Noctem, on 06/18/2008, -1/+8Is that really that staggering a number out of almost 7 billion?
- avPaul, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6The number surprised me too. It's less than 0.2%. And yet 11.4 million is a *lot* of people ...
  - inverselogic, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Pretty good considering all the nukes and ak47s floating around , percentage wise that is.
RRJackson, on 06/18/2008, -3/+3Sounds like it's time to thin the herd. They're weak from hunger, so you should be able to plink them with a .22 without spending a fortune on ammunition.
- nullcodes, on 06/18/2008, -2/+2Really? Maybe more people would be interested in thinning the herd of sociopaths like you.
  
  By the way "thinning the herd" in this manner besides being sickening and immoral doesn't even help humanity. There could be kids in there who are smart, or resilient and survivable if given the same opportunities as someone born elsewhere. Think about it a kid born in some rich country like Japan could be less healthy, with a weaker immune system, and maybe even not as smart as a kid growing up in a refugee camp where there is much tougher resource competition.
  
  I'm sure you will ignore this logic or search and find a loophole to justify and sustain your demonic view.
  - RRJackson, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3Hearts and minds. It's all about hearts and minds. But you can rinse those off the front of a Humvee with a little soap and water.
  - dgblackout, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3tl;dr.
- DuggDowner, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0They're weak from hunger because RR is eating all their food. Put the bucket of chicken down and exercise you fat lard!
  - RRJackson, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Aw, my anonymous stalker got another Digg account. Him's such an angry little man.
    - DuggDowner, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0Everybody is little compared to the 400lb troll RR Jackoff.
pauls88, on 06/18/2008, -4/+1I don't want to put down this source or anything but i expected that number to be allot higher, maybe im just overly pesinistic about the world's state.

*sigh*
MonkeydogPOZ, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Maybe they should all start their own country then.
ArenaRon, on 06/18/2008, -1/+4Let us please put this into perspective people - 11.5 million refugees, and the global population is estimated to be 6.7 billion. You can't please all the people all the time.
Spoomeister, on 06/18/2008, -0/+10Refugees... or as we like to call them, unhappy campers.
pauls88, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6I though Camp Refugee looked quite fun.
pauls88, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1I thought Camp Reugee looked quite fun...
RRJackson, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Dear Ndugu...
- Failchan, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Dugg for About Schmidt.
thecoolestguy, on 06/18/2008, -5/+7And half of them are Palestinians..
- neko6, on 06/18/2008, -2/+3If you consider deliberately leaving your home and finding another place to live being a refugee, most of the world population would be considered refugees...
- dkapuchino, on 06/18/2008, -2/+2Leaving your home because the Arab nations surrounding Israel requested you leave in order to help them better fight Israel, with the promise to allow you to return once Israel is destroyed doesn't make you a refugee.
  Palestinian Arabs left because they were ordered to, and deliberately incited into panic, by their own leaders who wanted the field cleared for the 1948 war.
  
  Let's imagine the following scenario. US decides to attack Mexico. They decide the most strategic place to attack from is Texas. They request that the residents of Texas temporarily move to Arkansas, so they don't interfere with the battles. During this war, the Mexicans realize the only way to assure their security is to take over Texas, as a strategic stronghold necessary for defending themselves. Now you've got Texans living in Arkansas, not allowed to return to Texas. Are they refugees? No. What would be the right thing for the US to do in this case? Leave the Texans in camps on the Arkansas border, or re-assimilate them into the land that the US still has?
  - 140Suffolk, on 06/18/2008, -2/+2Also, in defining Palestinian refugees, the UN decided to call anyone who had lived in the area for more than 2 years a refugee! This is unique.
    The reason they did this was to cover up the fact that many of the Palestinian refugees had just moved into the area. Because the Jews were jump starting the local economy and creating jobs. So Arabs from Syria and Egypt and Jordan came looking for work.
    Obviously, they should not have been included in the list of refugees, they should have just gone home. But when the UN started handing out welfare, they stayed.
    - thecoolestguy, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3This is a ***** claim made in a bullsht book by a women who did shoddy research.
      
      The fact is, the Zionist Jews committed a great crime against the Palestinians, and have since spent all their time trying to cover it up.
  - 140Suffolk, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1PS -- the other truth that he'll object to is that roughly half of Israel's Jewish population are MIDDLE EASTERN Jews! Not from Europe. Middle Eastern Jews who suffered as 3rd class citizens in Muslim Middle Eastern countries for 1,400 years. Persecuted, burdened with extra Jew taxes. Not allowed to testify in court! And when Israel was formed in 1948 roughly 800.000 of these Middle Eastern Jews abandoned their homes, land, businesses. Whatever they'd managed to accumulate in the past 1,400 years. Abandoned most of it and fled to Israel. Better to be broke and free than live as 3rd class dhimmi citizens without hope in Muslim countries.
- thecoolestguy, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3Here are the Zionist Jews, blaming the victim.
HorseloverFat8, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Refuges or refugees? They are entirely different things.
sinisa10, on 06/18/2008, -0/+311 million people is 1/3 of Canada....where most of them are immigrants
DuffyDirect, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3I'm sure Lord Nelson would give a rat's ass...
JointVenture, on 06/18/2008, -1/+4Be sure to say hello to Marvin when you walk past the exhibit.
TheOle, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Are you people even reading the article before posting? It says 11 million people were driven from their homes last year alone, not the number of refugees in total.
Counting internally displaced people, stateless people, asylum seekers and others who had to flee from natural disasters, the number rises to about 42 million world-wide. To put it in perspective; the Iraq-war alone has created about 4.2 million refugees, fleeing to Syria/Jordan, and fleeing to other parts of Iraq.
- blinktude, on 06/18/2008, -2/+1yea thats still only .67% of the worlds population
eedge, on 06/18/2008, -1/+2So this is just on Earth then?
Where can we get the statistics for space refugees?
- dkapuchino, on 06/18/2008, -1/+2It's been on the opening Main titles since season 2.
JasonCox, on 06/18/2008, -1/+1Don't tell the Cylons.
BDOUG, on 06/18/2008, -1/+2Bleeding heart: "Whatever the problem is, it's your fault and you should feel GUILTY. I don't feel guilty because it's my job to make YOU feel guilty. I don't do anything about it because it's my job to make YOU do something about it. I'm going to buy a globally sensitive PC t-shirt and sit in the corner and pout"

Neo-Con: "If these here raftergee people had ANY sense of indervidjul pride and responserbility they'd find the intestintal fortitude to stand 'er up and stop these here earthquakes and tsunamis by praying to Jebus and lowering corporate taxes and firing lots of rounds of ammunition at anything that looks like a tsunami or an earthquake. You can't stop the wrath of Gawdawmighty with gubment handouts!"

--NATURAL DISASTER STRIKES--

Bleeding heart: "Wait, come back! Stop sending help and money over THERE....we need it RIGHT HERE at home!"

Neo-Con: "Where the HELL is the Nat'l Guard goddamsit! I paid all dem middle class taxes thinking sumthin might trickle down on me one day like the Lotto... I expect some relief so hep me Jebus!"
ikcamar, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1My Gawd! Let's bring them all here. And I know from the commenters to this post who we can settle them all next to.
mrbig4545, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0I rape refugees
140Suffolk, on 06/18/2008, -0/+2Are most of them fleeing Muslim violence?
Or, which groups are NOT fleeing Muslim violence?
brdsofprey, on 06/18/2008, -0/+3That's between 0.1% and 0.2% of the worlds population. Either way, it's a fairly low number.

Statistics are misleading and can be made to sound horrible when turned at the right angle.

It sucks that 11 million people are refugees and we should get them where they belong but a tenth of a percent isn't something to begin worrying about. What about our 5% unemployment or whatever it is now?
suproach, on 06/18/2008, -0/+0Now ho do we get them all to buy iPhones?
saturnx8, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1damn what a shame. my heart bleeds.

hmm is that sarcasm I hear, do you think?
cutebutnerdy, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Reminds me of New Yorki
Hetman, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1I am no historian or maybe I am. But anyways that is only like .1% And even if you count the total number of refugees, it only raises to like .6% of the population of the world. That is probably the lowest percentage of refuge we have ever had on the earth.
jpurdy, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1They're coming here. Saw two of them on a 50cc scooter at Walmart Saturday. The taller one with the little red hat was on the back. The number of hijabs and burkhas in the store is greater every weekend.
CHANNELOCK, on 06/18/2008, -0/+0You don't pay the rent or lose your job your a refugee,you then compete with the newest economic refugee for the same scraps.That promotes resentment that turns to hatred and the cycle goes around and around from San Diego to Sudan and numerous stops in between.
trollick, on 06/18/2008, -0/+1Refuge is a place of safety. I'm glad we have quite a few safe places on Earth.
DiggGeek24, on 06/18/2008, -1/+0Kill them.
140Suffolk, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1thecoolestguy says "...This is a ***** claim..." Huh. Covers everything, doesn't it? Well, presumably he was referring to me saying "...the UN decided to call anyone who had lived in the area for more than 2 years a refugee! "

But, of course, it turns out that he is less than accurate.
Here's from the website of a Palestinian group called Al Awda:
"...UNRWA defined Palestinian refugees as persons who resided in Palestine two years prior to the outbreak of hostilities in 1948..."
Now why would the UN include anyone who'd been there for a mere two years? Why shouldn't the newcomer just go home? Answer...the UN wanted to INFLATE the refugee numbers to make Israel appear to be the evil doer. When the truth was that tiny Israel sourrounded by Arab nations who had declared themselves enemies, was the underdog.
trollhunter, on 06/19/2008, -1/+0Well, what do you expect when culls get such a bad name?
Listen: you have billions of rampant dumb-assed ***** screwing each other (cos they're bored), producing a bunch of mewling idiots who, at a certain age, start screwing each other cos they're bored and eventually you need to kill some off. Such is life.
You are lucky. They are not. Develop a coping mechanism.
solidcube, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1Yes, it's absolutely ridiculous and pathetic.

And jointventure, get the stick out of your ass.
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There Are 11.4 Million Refuges on Earth

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