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- Ferre1, on 10/22/2007, -14/+115Wake up and smell the fascism.
- MikeonTV, on 10/22/2007, -11/+91Orwell predicted this.
- tehbored, on 10/22/2007, -6/+48Yeah that kinda sucks. On the one hand, biometric security is a great thing and the technology is both useful and convenient. On the other hand, you might not want the government knowing where you go and what you read all the time.
- MasterInsan0, on 10/21/2007, -12/+42lmao...I love that you people start going on about 9/11 and the US government when this happened in Doncaster, South Yorkshire, ENGLAND.
- TheZorch, on 10/22/2007, -7/+28If it looks like fascism, smells like fascism, it probably is. This is sad.
- Auto, on 10/22/2007, -2/+21You are right noah, at this point it is harmless. But the real issue is that the UK schools are softening up the children. They are hitting them at an impressionable age with the idea that giving out your information to authorities is a safe and good thing. Just as it is in the US, the UK is attempting to move towards a national ID system where every iota of personal detail is stored on your card. Medical information, national ID numbers... the options are limited only to the legislators' imagination. This opens up a whole new world of identity theft if nothing else. I'm hardly being alarmist here, just being truthful. These kids will be voters in 15-20 years time... and if a national ID system ever came in place, they would be much less likely to oppose such a measure.
- DonSlice, on 10/22/2007, -1/+19Good article.
But I didn't care for the line break after every sentence.
Anyone else agree with me?
I mean, it was really annoying. - BlackCow, on 10/21/2007, -0/+15This article just dugg up a memory of when I was maybe 6 or 7 and the police talked to all the kids about how the police catch criminals and I remember they took all our finger prints, mine to. Kinda ***** up now that I think back to it.
- Bviper, on 10/21/2007, -13/+28You've got to be kidding me, the article acts like if someone has a copy of your fingerprint its just as good as your actual thumb.
"The boy grows up and, at 19, tries to open a bank account. But he is told he already has one and he is in the red so the answer is no. "
Wouldn't the bank get suspicious of the person opening the bank account (the one sitting in the chair) refuses to have his thumb print taken but assures them that this "picture" he has of one is his real one?
This is some serious over-reacting, yes the children shouldn't HAVE to have their thumbprints taken, but its not like by doing so they open themselves up to anymore chances of identity theft than are already out there. Look at social security numbers if those are stolen (which are a heck of alot easier to steal than finger prints) then your screwed anyway. - Jimbob200, on 10/21/2007, -5/+20I don't care if it does read like a Hollywood movie. The idea that someone can use my information to ruin my life isn't an idea, it's fast becoming a reality. Get your head out of your ass.
- Auto, on 10/21/2007, -0/+15I don't know about you but I will never... ever... give up my right to privacy for convenience or efficiency. I don't mind spending 10 extra seconds handing a library card to the librarian or handing my cash to a shopkeep.
- alexforcefive, on 10/21/2007, -1/+15The daily mail's a tabloid.
It's sort of their style.
If it was the sun they'd EMPHASISE random WORDS. - thcobbs, on 10/21/2007, -3/+17Then use Cash for everything....
- nizzy1115, on 10/22/2007, -13/+26we are losing our freedom 1 day at a time.
- evaburrito, on 10/21/2007, -1/+14They do this at Busch Gardens, and it makes me extremely uncomfortable every time. But I guess I was just raised with more respect for my own privacy than some of these folks who are commenting. ISure, its not a big deal when the information is used only for checking out books. It becomes a problem when you look at the bigger picture - that they are just conditioning these innocent little minds to be more and more accepting of the Orwellian society, along with the rest of us. Judging by the comments, it seems to be working.
- Rezistik, on 10/22/2007, -0/+12Tell that to my friend Eight-Finger Freddy, he will never be as good at tetris as he once was.
- scrimaxinc, on 10/21/2007, -2/+13Aldous Huxley was first though!
- nitroburn, on 10/21/2007, -0/+11When I was in high school (5 Years ago now) their computer networks were so unsecured it was insane. I had administrative logins to the computer systems that stored all the student records. And I mean ALL the student records. From why they get in trouble (info on home life), to locker combos, to grades.
But the part that pisses me off the most? I TOLD THEM HOW! I full out showed them how easy it was to grab a password and quickly logon to the network. Did they do anything to fix it? Nope, absolutely nothing.
Now, if this was my school starting to take finger prints, I would be outraged. They can't secure and manage the data they have now, why trust them with more? My Principals password was the hard to guess "prince". But I didn't just take passwords off a list, they we're sniffed. - thcobbs, on 10/21/2007, -0/+11Except that library card has your name, address, and borrowing history attached to it.
- Aard88, on 10/22/2007, -0/+10I just got back from my wife's company's annual picnic, free food, bouncy rides for the kids etc. Over the loudspeakers the DJ announces the local police dept. is running an Identikid booth, pictures, fingerprints all the stats saved in their data base ostensibly to find said kid if he/she is ever kidnapped (yeah right). I guess I was not the only dad who thought it was not such a good idea. The line for bean bag toss was 20 kids deep. Not one kid was in the fingerprint line.
- Mono1ith, on 10/22/2007, -9/+19I read the article, and I don't see anything particularly sinister here at all. Kids will lose their library cards, but they'll never lose their thumbs. But, if the parents object, I see no reason why they couldn't just opt out of the fingerprinting and receive a library card instead, but pushing for legislation to deprive all chidren of the convenience seems extreme.
- Burninsensation, on 10/22/2007, -0/+9I can't stand all the "if you're not a criminal it's not a problem" crap I hear about this. I'm not a criminal today, but when they make it illegal to be a homosexual, be an atheist, criticize the government, or refuse to serve in the armed forces, then I, and many other upstanding citizens, might just suddenly become "criminals." If the legal system was perfect, and never arrested the wrong person, and if the government was perfect and never made ridiculous laws, then the argument would hold, but that's not exactly how things seem to be going.
- dansvan, on 10/21/2007, -1/+9"The headmistress said it would be exciting for the pupils and help them develop a love of books and reading." What the hell are they talking about? Maybe they should supply the school with hundreds of copies of 1984 so kids can see what's next.
- dondara, on 10/21/2007, -0/+8In video surveillance of it's people, yeah.
- toxicshok, on 10/22/2007, -0/+8Why would it smell you? Its already got your fingerprints.
- dondara, on 10/20/2007, -1/+9No, Col. Mustard in the kitchen with a candle stick
- Beveridge89, on 10/21/2007, -6/+14Yeah, Wake up jackasses. Obviously if they take kids fingerprints, they must have murdered 3000 people. Its the only logical explaination.
The government didnt order this, and the school will likely be stopped by the courts before they are allowed to continue this. All well that ends well, so lets not get too worried about this. - xtc46, on 10/21/2007, -0/+8"they will never lose their thumbs"
unless they owe money to the mafia =) - uncertain, on 10/21/2007, -0/+7Yes, I'd like to be able to identify who I'm showing my ID to, in case something untoward happens in the future. Very good!
- uncertain, on 10/21/2007, -0/+7And you can bet they still have it.
- uncertain, on 10/21/2007, -0/+7The state of Ohio lost a computer with hundreds of thousands of Ohioans' personal info, including Social Security Numbers. You can't trust the government to secure any info.
- neutrascrub, on 10/22/2007, -5/+12They finger printed me back in 3rd grade (1997) w/o my parents consent. The local police department wanted to keep us safe. I wish i had a choice.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -0/+7Until cash isn't an option. Firstly expensive purchases will not work (unless you want to walk around with $10,000 in a suitcase). Secondly its only a matter of time before the government figures out what a great way to monitor people having an electronic fund only economy would be and mandate that notes are replaced with cash cards, of course you buy those cash cards with your bank money and each card has a UUID for security so they will know everything you buy.
- mbelleghem, on 10/21/2007, -2/+9Increased tracking of everyday civilians is to state power grab as Lindsay Lohan is to impulsive.
- Midness, on 10/22/2007, -1/+8Of course the irony in this statement is that the Daily Mail actually supported the rise of fascism (including the Nazi Party) in Europe in the 1930's and 40's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Support_fo ...
- saranagati, on 10/22/2007, -1/+8Well it's already possible to easily recreate fingerprints and place them on your own fingers so this really isn't very far off. Only difference is you'd have to print out a 3d image of the fingerprint using one of those 3d printers.
- noahhoward, on 10/20/2007, -4/+11Except this time it's a library card.
- WoollyMittens, on 10/21/2007, -1/+7What is innocent now, may become seen as a crime at any point in your future.
- Urusai, on 10/21/2007, -1/+7I knew society was ***** when they started requiring you to ***** piss in a cup to get a damn job. No rational person should consider delivering up a warm cup of urine a natural or necessary act in a sane world.
- preisler, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6Naeh, Yevgeny Zamyatin was first.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6democracy is rule of the majority. if the majority doesn't want it, it shouldn't exist.
- anarchytv, on 10/21/2007, -3/+9hey, kids, if you're not criminals, you have nothing to hide!
store clerk asked me for my ID for use of a credit card the other day. i asked to see hers back. she wouldn't comply. sounds like a one way street. if someone asks for your finger prints, don't had them over until they give you their finger prints. so you can run it through YOUR crime computer and verify their not some criminal. i bet a lot of military personell would pop up a red flag big time, with prior convictions, considering they've plummeted the standards to get any warm bodies into the military to fill the slots that nobody but the poorests and most desperate and stupid would volunteerly join to fill at this point... - fishpen0, on 10/21/2007, -0/+6What the hell is wrong with telling children about sex the right way, before some misinformed older child tells them about it, or until they discover sex themselves and don't know about protection and end up pregnant or an STD?
- Jaseoldboss, on 10/21/2007, -1/+7We accepted the library system. But then our children's fingerprints were taken by an outside contractor with no connection to the school for the catering service. Even our children objected at this point and we were furious. We demanded that the prints be deleted, especially since our kids ate packed lunch! Fingerprint 'algorithms' or hashes are unique. They will still compute to the same value when our children are 90 years old and the teachers that took them are long gone and unanswerable to the consequences.
- givemereplay, on 10/21/2007, -0/+5The Daily Mail is a rag and I wouldn't trust them to tell me the weather.
- fishpen0, on 10/21/2007, -0/+5Clearly you are delusional. First of all, how does taking children's fingerprints make anyone a pedophile? second of all, you ranted on and on about drugs and alcohol, like it was pertinent to what you were trying to say. You are in need of some serious mental help.
- inactive, on 10/21/2007, -1/+6Bad food?
Bad teeth? - xtc46, on 10/22/2007, -0/+5actually, no you don't. Some laser printers leave enough toner on the page to emulate the ripples on a finger. Get a low price reader, and it will take it. Or just use latex, and a very fine blade to cut the pattern into it based off an image
- clothmonkey, on 10/21/2007, -0/+5and helloooo barter economy!
- mokayogi, on 10/21/2007, -7/+12This reminds me of V for Vendetta. It seems the UK is slowly turning the fiction of V into a totalitarian reality.
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