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- slugpellet63, on 11/08/2009, -21/+630Spanking is OK., some ladies even insist.
:) - roebeet, on 11/08/2009, -20/+583Before posting, I did watch the video to see their side of the story.
With that in mind, my opinion is that they are SCUM. - stutimandal, on 11/08/2009, -87/+509Islam is peaceful. Islam respects woman. Islam is equality.
/s - cleantoe, on 11/08/2009, -57/+450Umm...you guys are trusting MEMRI?
I speak Arabic, and for an organization whose sole goal is to translate stuff like this, they do a real crappy job.
For instance, the guy who says "unless he carries a rod on his shoulder" actually says "unless he carries a [small] stick on his shoulder".
The rationale behind this is yes, a man is allowed to beat his wife only symbolically. That is to say, a man isn't allowed to use a stick larger than a tooth brush and he can't bend his elbow. Good luck beating someone with that. This is all just propaganda.
The other guys talking about wife-beating are talking out of their asses and it's not sanctioned anywhere in Islam to use force more than the symbolic, laughable gesture as mentioned above.
Also, let's not act like domestic violence is an Islamic phenomenon. I applaud the women though in the clip who are standing up to the chauvinist pigs. - Shamusjp, on 11/08/2009, -53/+337Stay classy Muslims...
- SNESChalmers, on 11/08/2009, -7/+278"Women will go at you. They don't give a *****. They'll slap you, kick you, punch you and spit on you... Occasionally, [a woman] will go too far and say the wrong thing, like, 'Your mama's a bitch.' Then she knows she went too far and she braces herself for the hit. But if the hit doesn't come she's thinking, 'Ooh, I got him now, the little-dick *****, come here! I ***** all your friends!' And then she hits you! Let's be clear: Even if a woman hits you, I don't think it's cool to hit back. I've never, ever, EVER hit a woman in my life and I never would...
...but I'd shake the ***** out of one...'Woman, shut up! What're you going around tossing salads for? Shut the ***** up! I'll shake this weave out of your hair! Eat your ***** food and we'll argue when we get home. When I let go I better not hear *****!"
-Chris Rock - ubermensch00, on 11/08/2009, -11/+232just... just a lil bit.. no big deal... just a little beating here and there... keep 'em in line... you know... no big deal...
- skektek, on 11/08/2009, -34/+196What do you say to a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, you already told the bitch twice.
- anonymous1986, on 11/08/2009, -13/+138What do you call a woman with only one black eye?
A fast learner. - Imissnaptime, on 11/08/2009, -9/+129Super Crazy Uber-Muslims?
- cleantoe, on 11/08/2009, -5/+124Well, the whole point is, you're not supposed to beat your wife. That's why the conditions on how you can do it are so laughable.
Before you get to that stage, you're supposed to talk things over and even sleep separately. If stuff like that doesn't work, you can beat her with a toothbrush. lol
One of the Hadith (traditions of the Prophet) goes like this: A man comes up to the Prophet and complains about his wife. He asks if he can beat her and with what. To that, the Prophet raises his miswak as to show him what he can beat her with.
Back then, miswak was used to clean your teeth. Here's a picture: http://www.1000gooddeeds.com/files/2009/08/miswak. ...
The moral of the story: Don't beat your wife. - diggdong, on 11/08/2009, -25/+128Mohammed had a wife that was 9 years old. Islam does not mean religion of peace. It means religion of submision to the koran. No mater how people water it down for historic, cultural or racist inclusion, at it's core it is incompatible to a free Western way of life.
- RuSTeDs, on 11/08/2009, -10/+111Thank you. MEMRI is scum. I heard lot of people who say they mistranslate for sensationalist propaganda.
- wondertwins, on 11/08/2009, -39/+131Three cheers for religion!
HIP HIP HOORAY! - Valyn, on 11/08/2009, -1/+91I disagree. Man or woman, both need to get whats coming to them, they know better. But a child or someone mentally ill (or a dog for that matter) may not know any better. It is true that you deal with what they did with some kind of punishment (you NEVER let them get away with it), but 'knocking them the ***** out' does not help them learn.
- LoraxLorax, on 11/08/2009, -5/+87That is doubleplus good.
- freakFlag, on 11/08/2009, -1/+82Don't forget the tickle afterwards ...
- Canadian007, on 11/08/2009, -4/+84Key words: "Could" "Had" implying a historical reference.
Sure, this provides context. Context for the progress that society has made since these laws and beliefs were practiced; it's unfortunate certain societies refuse to progress. - MonoDede, on 11/08/2009, -1/+78@Valyn When I was a child, about 9 I'd say, my neighbor's kid, about 6 at the time, threw rocks at me (or something like that, point is it really hurt). I didn't know what to do because he was much smaller than me and even though I'd tell him to stop he wouldn't. I told my dad and he told me, "***** that, it doesn't matter that he's small you're still getting hurt, punch him in the face." Next time he did it again I punched him square in the nose. I never had to deal with him ***** with me again for the next 7 years that we lived next to each other.
Sometimes you just gotta punch someone in the face. Talking doesn't always work. - KyotoWolf, on 11/08/2009, -1/+77http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0
:D - 312139, on 11/08/2009, -53/+128Religion will be the end of of the civilized world.
- Nicoon, on 11/08/2009, -10/+81I'd hit it.
- tofagerl, on 11/08/2009, -6/+76Was.
- NiNiCraftOne, on 11/08/2009, -5/+67Maybe part of it is that the "15% crazies" you are referring to seem to lead many islamic countries, communities, terror groups etc. and the "sane and moderate" Muslims, though perhaps a 'silent majority', should do far more to actually silence and side-line the fanatics who control whole countries and communities of sane Muslims and oppress them.
- EarlOfLade, on 11/08/2009, -34/+89Religion is once again the problem.
These people along with many christians, justify their savage treatment of women using religion and religion is more than happy to be abused by them.
It's about time we get rid of the bronze age nonsense called religion and move into the reality of the 21st century. - MacBookForMe, on 11/08/2009, -3/+58Spanking is a remedy for a better relationship, I guess
- dolemite01, on 11/08/2009, -6/+60What does a woman do when she gets home from the abuse shelter?
Dishes if she learned anything. - theonlywizdum, on 11/08/2009, -7/+58^*PUNCH
- charlietuna, on 11/08/2009, -1/+52This is true.
- theonlywizdum, on 11/08/2009, -20/+70I don't discriminate. Man, woman, child, mentally ill, if someone hits me, i'm going to introduce them to the floor.
- Stormwern, on 11/08/2009, -7/+56That wont fix the problem.
Take the Iraq war: The christians justified the war with religion, the patriots with patriotism, the fearful with national security, and presumably Hitchens wanted the war to rid the muslim world of bronze age nonsense. If a close minded people want to do something, they generally find a way to justify it, religious or not.
What's needed is more exchange of ideas and points of view, in every direction, - pixeldust, on 11/08/2009, -5/+53Wrong, according to good ol' Wikipedia's "rule of thumb" page:
"It is often claimed that the term originally referred to a law that limited the maximum thickness of a stick with which it was permissible for a man to beat his wife, but this has been discredited.[1][3] British common law before the reign of Charles II permitted a man to give his wife "moderate correction", but no 'rule of thumb' (whether called by this name or not) has ever been the law in England.[6][7] However, "moderate correction" specifically excluded beatings, only allowing the husband to confine a wife to the household.[8] "
Nice try though. - lifeasariver, on 11/08/2009, -5/+50If I have a 15% chance to be blown to pieces, I tend to worry.
- keviniskool, on 11/08/2009, -6/+51Every
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Lemons - hfactor, on 11/08/2009, -25/+67Self-control. Get some.
- dman24752, on 11/08/2009, -5/+46I think it's unfair to classify all Muslims in this case. Even in the video, they had it demonstrated as a debate. This is what a society needs to better itself is a fair open conversation where even those with ugly opinions have the opportunity to reveal themselves.
Quite frankly, I think we need to do that more in the U.S. There are people out there with abhorrent beliefs and practices, but they're able to cover it up under the guise of being "politically correct". I'd rather someone be open, honest, and bring what they do into the light of day then have them keep what they're doing and have no one talk about it. - bubbachuck, on 11/08/2009, -4/+44normally, this would be funny to me. but this is some serious ***** that's happening to women and i don't see any room for humor in it. i hope this is your coping mechanism.
- oriondr, on 11/08/2009, -17/+57No, average muslims living in islamic states.
- gutistg, on 11/08/2009, -0/+39Where the ***** did this idea that it's legal for a woman to hit you come from? If a woman hits, you call the ***** cops.
- ezcheezbandit, on 11/08/2009, -4/+41http://i.imgur.com/mCUfG.jpg
My favorite. - georgetds, on 11/08/2009, -12/+44Well, obviously religion is the problem! Just look at how those who have no religious beliefs here on digg are peaceful and loving! If only we could all learn from the gentle, accepting examples of the atheist population. Of course, we can't blame violence and evil on people, it is the fault of religion.
- HallenbeckJoe, on 11/08/2009, -0/+31Connery's stance on wife-beating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0 - Aegrus, on 11/08/2009, -3/+34You hit me? NERDDDDDD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!! I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO THE FLOOOOR!!!!!1111one!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- ericcc, on 11/08/2009, -5/+36A coworker of mine was recently outraged when her friend's significant other slapped her at a concert. Turns out they had gotten backstage and she got to meet a performer she was crazy about threw her arms around him and gave him an intense kiss on the lips. Her boyfriend who was there w/ her pulled her away and slapped her in front of everybody. Now, that wouldn't have been my reaction but, honestly, if I met Rashida Jones at a bookstore (or wherever) and got to slip her a little tongue in front of my GF, I would think I had *at least* a slap coming my way. I wouldn't resent it and I would think it would be worth it.
Okay so that anecdote is only slightly relevant but I thought it was interesting enough to tell. - EverGlow89, on 11/08/2009, -2/+32Hah, see that makes much more sense and is actually pretty funny. Then you agree that all the "men" in this video are nothing more than bad names to the religion, right?
I mean.. I'm Christian, and when I see videos like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URUOSXJrx8c%29... I understand why so many people hate us. Because, y'know... We're ALL just like that... - oriondr, on 11/08/2009, -10/+39lolwhut? the advent of agriculture was the beginning of the civilized world. Human ability to use energy from the sun stored by plants/trees (as in growing plants, burning wood) allowed our societies to grow. Fossil fuels (coal, oil) storing even more energy from the sun allowed our societies to grow even larger and more compact.
I assure you, religion was around long before that, and it remains stupid and unnecessary. - Stormwern, on 11/08/2009, -2/+31Phone numbers or it didn't happen.
- ahmedb07, on 11/08/2009, -41/+69Islam is peaceful and it does respect women. The men in this video are fanatics who take Islam too far. These are the same violent men who the media portrays as "Islamic" and all of you believe their lies. Why doesn't everyone just wake up and realize that everything you see on Fox and CNN about Islam is a lie. We're not violent people. We are just like every other religion in that 85% of us are normal sane people and the other 15% are crazy. For some reason that 15% has been chosen by the media to represent us. I say ***** the media and I say ***** that 15%.
- DooM, on 11/08/2009, -10/+38You had to watch the video to determine that wife beaters are scum..? :)
- Iceman21, on 11/08/2009, -9/+36***** that barbaric *****.
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