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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+82According to this list, America is not livable.
- diggnig, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48if vancouver is # 3 in the world ( i live here and its pretty good i would have to say)
but if we are # 3 I feel sorry for everyone else - OneManArmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46Here is a direct link to the table of rankings
http://www.mercerhr.com/referencecontent.jhtml?idContent=1128060 - elsewhen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37so, other than the cities in canada and australia, all the others in the list are in northern europe (i guess austria is not considered northern). certainly there has to be some additional place in the world worth living.
Zurich, Switzerland
Geneva, Switzerland
Vancouver, Canada
Vienna, Austria
Auckland, New Zealand
Düsseldorf, Germany
Frankfurt, Germany
Munich, Germany
Bern, Switzerland
Sydney, Australia
Copenhagen, Denmark
Wellington, New Zealand
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Brussels, Belgium
Toronto, Canada
Berlin, Germany
Melbourne, Australia
Luxembourg, Luxembourg
Ottawa, Canada
Stockholm, Sweden - SandorClegane, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33Wait one second....Washington D.C. is more livable than Seattle and Portland. Did these people go to these places before putting them on this list? I call *****.
- loconet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Ideally, you live in Vancouver, work in Toronto, and party in Montreal.
- TSCheredar, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29Surprised that U.S. doesn't have a city in the ranking?? Seriously? If there's one thing that the US is good for, its staying in and sitting on our asses. We have everything we need (and often times want) within our homes. Cities aren't exactly our biggest concern (and the reason we have poor public transit, lots of cars, and homes with huge back yards.)
- critterman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Great article and nice to see so many Canadian cities in the top 15!
- sweintraub, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26This is such a BS list. I've worked for Mercer and know their "research" is flawed. Also note that almost nothing has changed over the past year - why pay for more "research" when just reprinting 2006 is cheaper.
*disclaimer, I live in #2 Geneva. It is as boring as ***** here but safe, clean and everyone is paid, son. It should be a sliding scale based on priorities - MaxPowers2007, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Detroit and St. Louis are *tied* for #64 on the list of most livable cities? Give me a break. Dugg down for stupidity.
This is what Mercer is spending their money on? Any company that hires Mercer is a F*Company. - Calann, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Baghdad finished last? Fox News keeps saying it's getting better and better there. I thought by now Baghdad would be near the top of the list.
- mehan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Washington DC should not be anywhere near that list...
- deadsenator, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16That's probably because everybody I've ever heard describe St. Louis describes it as a hole.
- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -2/+13Easter was yesterday...stop hopping.
- negativefx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13i hear ya...dc is a ***** nightmare.
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I wouldn't go to DC without a platoon...
- robdiggity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@quomen
It is in the list. It's #27 this year, and was last year as well. Did you look at the list? - VinceNoir, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@TSCheredar
Actually you're pretty much on the mark. The problem is the sprawl outward from what used to be the hub of life: downtown. In many areas int he U.S, land developers preyed on the fears of middle class white Americans and told them that certain neighborhoods were "getting bad" and that they needed to pack up and move out to the ex-urbs. Little by little, the right way of living (ie. city life) was replaced with people living out in the boonies in their "safe" developments and gated communities.
However, a problem soon arose. It became apparent that there wasn't much to offer in the boonies in terms of culture (art museums, liberal educations and values, free public libraries, etc...) and because of the anti-tax sentiment of most people who move to places like that, there wasn't funding to build those things. Instead, those things were replaced by the local church (a huge mistake if you want to address the needs of the non-religious folks who want to STAY non-religious in your community), and then the big box shopping malls (who further serve to lower any possible growth in culture or open minded thinking) and now the mega churches. The mega churches are pretty much the only community outlet available to people in these communities. And while that's fine for religious practitioners it comes at a huge cost to those of us who wish to remain internal about our spirituality: "YOU MUST REPENT AND CONVERT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO FIT IN".
Because there are so many communities like this in the U.S., it's no wonder that our formerly beautiful cities are dying and we couldn't break the top 20 of this list. When everything is based around pure capitalism with conservative values, you get ***** holes like Medina Ohio happening. The good news is that as these sorts of places grow and more people move to them, the less able they are to sustain the influx since the anti-tax sentiment of their residents prevents them from having the financial ability to provide good community services that are not tied to "faith based initiatives". Remember, not everyone wants to be a Christian. And for those of us who have our own spiritual beliefs, we may just not want to "convert" and be hypocrites. There are far too many people willing to pretend to be Christians in the mega churches of the boonies, which is why you have endless tales of people "sinning" and then asking forgiveness. I'd rather just sin and accept the fact that I can't hold to the unrealistic expectation of man's church and leave the real judgment and asking for forgiveness between myself and a higher power. - monkeyod, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13WTF...Houston,TX is on the list (crappy, crappy city) but no Austin,TX (10000000's of times better).
This list is flawed. - Balanced, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Additionally, New Zealand is not in Australia. At least, according to the New Zealanders and Australians I've chatted with. They hat when people assume the two nations are one entity.
- mlvassallo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Any top 20 list that includes Houston, TX before Austin, TX fails.
- Coniferous, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12You know, i really wish they showed how they ranked these cities, i took a look at the graph, and i saw the numbers and all.. but shouldn't they be going into a liiitle bit more detail then that?
- mindsnare, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Whoo Melbourne FTW and/or For the 17th, hmm.
Love Melbourne, easy to get around, nice people and not too many hobos - dbarefoot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Vancouver's got its problems--mostly drugs and homelessness, but they don't necessarily impact 'livability' for the average citizen. Sure, there's more property crime than average, but the city has done an surprisingly effective job (like it or not) of creating a heroin ghetto in the Downtown Eastside. This keeps the least desirable element in one place, and enables the rest of the city dwellers to have a higher quality of life.
- jh5000, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Ummmm, i'm guessing all of the people giving dc flack:
a.) don't live there
b.) live in NoVA
c.) live in maryland
those of us in the district know:
a.) the metro is the cleanest and most user friendly subway in the US (eletronic alerts for trains, train approaching lights, elevators at *every* stop, it takes credit card (not as common as you'd think))
b.) the city has a great system of parks and circles running through it making it very pretty/quiet
c.) adams morgan/u-street/mount pleasant are all great areas in walking distance to each other
stop hatin - MaximegalonInfo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Someone is on crack, the top US cities are Honolulu, then San Fransisco then Boston. You'd better be a ***** millionaire or you will be living in a *****. The last two are a bitch to commute in, so you better no need to work. I can't see any real quality of life in those cities otherwise. Other lists give a lot better options. Also, St. Louis ranked on the list, but was voted the most dangerous city in the US a year ago by someone.
These surveys are too general, and a waste of time. - Riesenzwerg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hey, I'm in Düsseldorf, aka No. 5. Sounds pretty logical to me - I really love this city :)
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@jh5000
Having good city services means little when you've been stabbed in the kidney. - Coniferous, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13thats right turgor, anything that isnt for the states is against it. its attitudes like this that make the states as hated at it is.
- bigdsinferno, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Could they possibly have come up with a more definitive picture for Luxembourg?
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What's that all about..
Vancouver
Toronto
Ottawa.. But.... NOT Montreal? pshaw. - desteffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What a joke, they say Detroit is more "liveable" than Atlanta... I've lived in both, and I can tell you they are wrong.
- AnteChronos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@displaynone
"I'm surprised no United States cities"
There are lots of US cities on the list. Just not in the top 20. The highest is Honolulu, at #27. - antoniojvr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Amen. I live here and after just two years, I'm done. This list is BS.
- diulei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Probably bad public transportation.
Not to say SD isn't an absolutely lovely place to live with its scenery + weather, but if you don't have a car, sucks to be you. - hexx54, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6woot go OTTAWA
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I blame the separatists.
- Rued, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4agreed x100
- mbrane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4While it's nice (as a Toronto resident) to see Toronto doing comparatively well, to some degree I see lists like this as relatively arbitrary; a lot of cities in the world are just fine if you have enough $$$ to live in a gated community, and if you are truly destitute, I'm sure a lot of cities are pretty much the same.
- nakmario, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8one of the criteria listed was public transportation. I live in San Diego ("America's Finest City") and getting around from place is a bitch if you don't have a car. Same thing with LA. I think that only the cities in the east have decent public transportation and even then there is higher crime rate in the US than most of the other cities listed here.
In short I am not surprised that US cities didn't make the list. - stinkypyper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4That cold is what makes those cities such clean safe places. You have to have a job to survive, or else your ass freezes to death.
- Rued, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5agreed. Like Business weeks ranking of Princeton as a top 10 Business school
**Princeton doesn't have a Biz school - cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6HAHAHAH, Detroit is number 64, right. They obviously didn't just count the actual CITY of Detroit, nobody lives there. Everybody is in the burbs.
- robdiggity, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@fiftyeggs
Well, no. According to this list, the United States hosts 19 of the top 100 "most livable" cities in the world (whatever that means), or nearly 20%. Not bad for less than 7% of the earth's land mass. - imthepresident, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Detroit, Michigan USA
With its low crime rate, clean air and sprawling auto industry, it's no wonder more Americans list Detroit as the most desirable city to live in for 2007. Home to cultural icons such as modern scribe Eminem, and one of the most economically developed districts, 8 mile, you'll never be at a loss for art, or a job....... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Vancouver and the rest of Canada is great if you have money and your own business, but paying 52% tax and buying an $800,000 house is not on my list of great places to live.
- mlvassallo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6dig me down
- CompanyMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Top ranking for cities in the Americas
The top five cities in the Americas were:
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Vancouver (3rd)
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Toronto (15th)
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Ottawa (tied for 18th)
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Montreal (22nd)
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Calgary (24th) - Franey97, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Yeah.. about that...
I think the politicians in Ottawa grunge up the city more than Torontos homeless.
Cant say I'm surprised Toronto made the list, lived here my whole life and love it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Thank you for your comment CowBoy Joe.
One thing, you forgot to end your comment with your patented "USA! USA!" chant. -
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