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- Madrigalian, on 08/24/2008, -10/+111"He hopes that Muslims will begin to question their religion and "fix it" by rejecting the parts that call for "killing others, cutting hands, cutting legs, torturing people and asking for destruction of entire civilisations"."
- WordsnCollision, on 08/24/2008, -7/+88Aren't Muslims forbidden to leave their religion on pain of death?
- manstein01, on 08/25/2008, -12/+74Only on digg would you get such a large dose of anti Christian anti-West moral equivalence. Religion is fine as long as you respect those who disagree with you, and do not try to push it on others.
- jayscot, on 08/25/2008, -15/+74This is terrible. Here on Digg we would much rather see a person become a terrorist than a Christian.
- Smurph0404, on 08/25/2008, -13/+52Quick: Everyone talk about how much you hate Christianity. It's possible there might be Christians reading this and we can't have them feeling welcome.
- stackered, on 08/25/2008, -59/+96Religions: disagreeing on who has the best imaginary friend.
- mnvkng76, on 08/25/2008, -11/+41Don't worry Hesse. The true Christians may feel a momentary twinge, but we don't hold grudges nor really take offense. The vast majority of those who go off on rants are really the vast minority of Christians.
I used to a be an atheist, until I looked for the truth and I found it. I saw that Christ died for us, and I saw HIS love.
the problem is some people[Christians]forget HE died for all of us, even the atheists, and get judgmental about the person. I can judge an act( stealing murder) to be wrong, But i don't have the right to a judge a man.
Nor Am the one who can save any one. I can share the Gospel , which i have here as is my duty and joy as a Christian, but It isn't up to me to save you. Its Up to God.
So in the end I read the comments, smile and move on to the next one, especially the tech threads( contrary to popular belief MANY Christians work in industries requiring a high degree of critical thinking), but I don't take offense. When the time comes God will call and it's up to those he calls to answer. - solidus636, on 08/25/2008, -6/+33Well I'm a Muslim turned Agnostic(thanks digg!). I hope I don't get killed!
- shapul, on 08/25/2008, -7/+33yes, everyone knows that and that's why it's a very effective excuse to seek asylum! Another common way is to announce homosexuality which also has a death penalty in Islam. Now guess how strong a case would be if a Muslim asylum seeker claims he is a Christian homosexsual!
- MendotaLee, on 08/25/2008, -8/+32Dead man walking...
- Madrigalian, on 08/24/2008, -6/+26Yeah, flirting with "death Fatwas" for "shock value" is all the rage with young people these days.
- Madrigalian, on 08/25/2008, -15/+34Hate to break it to you there dildoolielly but...
1. I'm not a Christian. Nor am I a Jew or Muslim. As a matter of fact I do not follow any ideology of Abraham in any of its forms. I am in fact Agnostic. I think all the great religions are wrong. (and right)
2. I do however know enough about all three of them to know that the New Testament of "Christ" makes your entire post obsolete. That's why it is called the "new" testament and the reason you don't see christians running around with foot long sideburns.
3. Oh yeah, almost forgot, I also know that of them all, Islam is the sickest most evil ***** ideology of hatred, bigotry and intolerance I have ever seen outside of pure Nazism. And that's a fact. - EffYoo, on 08/25/2008, -19/+37Theology says jesus trumps the old testament. Those books barely influence christianity. maybe you're bitching about judaism though because those are in the torah and influence jewish beliefs far more strongly than christian beliefs. . In that case, ***** you anti-semite
- WinMacLin, on 08/25/2008, -11/+26So does this mean we have to start killing Christians now or what? I'm so confused..
- Lucas123, on 08/25/2008, -8/+23What a brave man. God bless him, and keep him safe!
- wonttellya, on 08/25/2008, -5/+19At least he didn't become a hairdresser or a shoe salesman.
- cusoman, on 08/25/2008, -2/+15Hamas = terrorist. Read the article, please.
- Danial, on 08/25/2008, -5/+18Not really. The Grand Mufti of Egypt has made a ruling that apostasy is not to be punished by death.
- johndi, on 08/25/2008, -10/+23That is what evangelical theologians tend to say, but Jesus said "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."
Of course there is some nice cherry picking going on with them also trying to place the ten commandments (which by that "reasoning" would no longer be valid) into government buildings.
They also ignore parts of the new testament they don't like with the punitive justice system they champion. What happened to "Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord" and "Turn the other cheek"? They weren't just quaint sayings and if they looked at it rationally they would see that a reform based justice system works better than a punitive one. - andyd273, on 08/25/2008, -1/+11RIAA?
- MasterPain, on 08/25/2008, -3/+12No body kicks in your door except your dad to tell you to stop masturbating.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+9Did you even read the article?
- passiopassiva, on 08/25/2008, -1/+10I understand that we can make our own assumptions on why people make decisions in their lives, but to try and say that someone is prescribing to a particular belief for selfish reasons and not because of a spiritual connection with said higher power is not a statement we can make. So I don't mean to give you a hard time, but I just ask that you keep an open mind on such matters.
- TedTschopp, on 08/25/2008, -3/+12@Johndi
Its not all that simple. Its not that you are WRONG, it's just more textured and nuanced.
The book of Romans calls for us to leave vengeance to God. But it also is the book of the new testament that calls for Christians to follow the government. There is this idea in Christianity that the government is the proxy for God's justice here on earth. You also have to remember when these ideas are placed into the New Testament the Roman government is actively persecuting Christians.
As for the sermon on the mount most people read it and think that its a nice and wonderful collection of sermon ideas or platitudes. However if you read it from the viewpoint of the 1st century Jew, you will get the idea that Jesus is doing something rather harsh and radical. The religious leaders of the time told people how to live holy and acceptable lives to their people. Kinda like some religious leaders of today. The reason for doing this is that the Jewish leaders thought that if they purified the Jewish people enough the Messiah would come and lead them to victory over the Romans. However Jesus shows up and says something to the effect. OK, so you want to know how to live a holy life. FINE. Here is what holiness is. And guess what. You fail (something the common person already knew) and the Religious Leaders also FAIL. And guess what, a good Jewish person at the time would have understood this. You go to the Temple and sacrifice an animal, the idea being that the animal would take the sin of the person and the person would take the innocence of the animal. So when Jesus said turn the other Cheek, he was talking about what it really meant to follow the commandments like Thou Shalt Not Murder and Love your neighbor as you would love yourself. And in doing so, he is saying, look, even the most holy religious leaders in your community are also just as guilty as you are. Of course this didn't win him any popularity contests with the religious leaders, and this is why they plotted to kill him and 'purify' the Jewish people. This is why the bible records the statements of the religous bodies at the time as 'Isn't it better that one man die for the whole people?' In modern terms. Lets kill this one man and it will 'save' the whole Jewish people from falling into greater sin.
Of course the Christian message was that Jesus was the final sacrifice and that he offers a way to transfer our sins to him, and his righteousness to us. One of the reasons he kept harping on the religious leaders was that it wasn't the role of the people to purify themselves and turn the other cheek. Neither was it the role of the people themselves to seek vengence. Both these roles of purification and justice were Jesus's because he had the sins of his people transferred to himself. He was now both the victim and the guilty party. This was the basis for the idea of Christian justice. Because Jesus is now both parties, the christian community can live at peace with themselves and everyone else.
I could go on and on, but really props to all you who have read this far. This is digg after all, and I'll probably be buried into oblivion. - ormmarine, on 08/25/2008, -1/+10I realize that I have been replying to many of these anti-christian comments in the past in a very combative fashion, and I'm sorry for that, especially if my words have fueled anyone's anti-christian sentiments. It's like mnvkng says, it's not up to me, it's up to God, and the time will come when we'll have to answer to Him.
You have to understand though, that often times a comment will have an erroneous thought about christianity that I am just emotionally drawn to correct. I feel like God's given me a strong heart for the defense of doctrine and truth of Christianity, and so I have a very strong emotional reaction when I see witty comments getting dugg up that outright lie about what is and isn't found in the Bible, or take verses out of context.
Regardless, that doesn't excuse a combative attitude. Sorry diggers! I love you all, and I guess I just need to work on how I show that love. - frozenpxl, on 08/25/2008, -6/+14Seriously? Think of when the Bible was written. Women weren't mentioned too often in old literature. It would be safe to assume that 'Men' refers to 'mankind', since the old law was coming from a supernatural, non-man being. Its just emphasizing the difference.
Nice try though. - musagha, on 08/25/2008, -3/+10huh..? "the Barabbas Road church in San Diego, California, arrived in America 18 months "
- TedTschopp, on 08/25/2008, -0/+7I don't know, the Lutheran Church I belong to hasn't gone out and disrespected the Baptists becuase the Baptists don't believe in Infant Baptism. Sure we will get together and hold lively debates, but debating someone and not respecting them are two different things. In the end the reason we debate these issues is that repect each other greatly and want to see a unity that our leader Christ called for.
Disagree != respect. - max420, on 08/25/2008, -9/+16Islam is what its always been. A violent religion.... All through out Islam's history, conquest and killing infidels was the name of the game. I'll totally get dugg down for this, but look it up.
- Waiting2awake, on 08/25/2008, -5/+12Macaroni
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- The five main articles of faith! And delicious too - take that wafer! - foopirata, on 08/25/2008, -5/+12@dildooliellydildoolielly : when was the last time you saw anybody say the Old Testament has to be followed to the letter under pain of death? I don't think you'll find many examples. Other religions seem to be able to adapt and overcome - even in their orthodox strains - while another one seems to stress its infallibility based on following to the letter their old texts. Should make you think.
- qazxsw2, on 08/25/2008, -1/+8"Thieves are supposed to have their hand cut off as far as I know no country is practicing this anymore."
Except Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and maybe more ... - biogears, on 08/25/2008, -2/+9You can tell by their actions which are a result of their faith.
Where are the Christian, Jewish suicide bombers wearing black masks, holding knives ready to saw off someone's head slowly? - franklymister, on 08/25/2008, -5/+12Considering that he's rejecting the call for "killing others, cutting hands, cutting legs, etc." in exchange for "love thy neighbor," yeah, I'd say it's an upgrade.
- jeffsback2223, on 08/25/2008, -3/+9dildoolielly: Try not to base your entire argument on using the cut and paste of a skit from a religious-satire website.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -9/+15(objectively speaking) Upgrade.
- sperez0986, on 08/25/2008, -8/+14Bunch of Christian haters on Digg. What a shame.
- rlh1, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8Not in the US.... but in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc etc it is illegal to leave Islam. Many have the death penalty. So, no religion can grow in any of these countries, except Islam, because you have no chance to leave it without heavy penalties.
Scour the internet a bit for these articles, lots of them from reputable new wires.
Of course, once a sizable majority is reached in the US, maybe we will be blessed with apostasy laws too...... - Azerael, on 08/25/2008, -7/+13Sanity.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5Man, some people can't just take it for what it is at face value.
Not everything has some underlying conspiracy behind it.
Sometimes, things just are the way they say.
Plus, you don't know him. - inactive, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7Yup! Christianity (specially if its a Muslim converting) card is the best card to play as a asylum seeker.
- Ramble, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7The churches burned people for not believeing in their sky wizard.
What a great way to expell evil. - rlh1, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7Of course that are no Arabs or Iranians etc that convert to Christianity .
Those apostasy laws are just too harsh.............. - rlh1, on 08/25/2008, -2/+750 thousand converts a year. North/South America and Europe -- That's 50k for about 3 billion people. Not too significant. How many stay with it. I personally don't care what religion people choose to belong to. I don't care if they worship a beagle dog.
My main objection to Islam is the apostasy laws, honor killings, involvement in politics ---sharia law, FGM, and the constant need to behead people, of course while filming it and posting it on the Internet. Really hard to keep lunch down when you stumble across those.... - inactive, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5Thank you for illustrating your point.
- GreatSunJester, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7I liked that post -- pointed out that his faith does not make him a mindless drone. Someday (with luck) all people of faith and those with none will accept each other. Long way in the future, but maybe....
- spook4thecia, on 08/25/2008, -3/+8You're right, we'd have all new ones. Human nature's a bitch, isn't it?
BTW, Utopias FTW even though they aren't achievable. But that doesn't mean we still shouldn't try. - btschul, on 08/25/2008, -10/+14Actually, I believe Islam, Christianity, and Judaism as well as Catholics and Protestants and the rest all believe in the same God, they just interpret his will differently.
- mnvkng76, on 08/25/2008, -3/+7I'll pray for you..
have a great day - stealthc, on 08/25/2008, -5/+9Or at least to Christ.
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