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- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -27/+224In Bush-world we finance insurgents to destroy infraestructure, murder people and try to topple the government in Iran and we call them freedom-fighters.
In Bush-world Iran finances insurgents to attack the occupying army's infraestructure, murder soldiers of the occupying army and Iraqis that are assissting them and try to topple the puppet government in Iraq and we call them terrorishts. (We would call them terrorists, but we are apparently incapable of speaking English)
In Bush-world, the mainstream media repeats all this crap as though it were true. - djRob, on 06/29/2008, -16/+147Don't say, so that "conspiracy cook" Alex Jones wasn't lying after all when he said that USA was sponsoring Sunni terrorists in Iran. I wonder if some of his opponents will apologize for calling him a liar.
- whodat51773, on 06/29/2008, -13/+97One thing is for certain all the democrats who supported this authorization will claim they were lied to or misled if and when action is taken and becomes public...
- m1th, on 06/29/2008, -6/+79It's certainly not exclusive to the Bush administration. The American government has been doing that for that past couple of decades.
- bluebovine, on 06/29/2008, -13/+73Yet another Bush "decider" decision to proceed without the support of the American people.
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -17/+70On one hand I'm happy that Bush's support and funding of terrorism is exposed again, but this also gives more fuel to regime in Iran to label political activists, journalists and students as US-funded terrorists.
- flavioribeiro, on 06/29/2008, -14/+50As a foreign citizen, I ask Americans to take a stand against this. And I don't mean to escalate your online petitions and posts on Digg. I mean organize huge real world protests that block streets in major cities. I'm talking about civil disobedience. Many of you would get arrested.
The only way this will stop is if citizens and servicemen resist the government. Once a military campaign starts, regular citizens will be powerless and a serviceman who resists will be shot for treason. Servicemen should not report to active duty, and maybe move to other countries who will give asylum (Canada is an example).
If a sea blockade against Iran is approved, the United States will be solely responsible for the war that ensues. The United States will be the aggressor, and hundreds of thousands of Iranians will die. - NotOptium, on 06/29/2008, -9/+43Check out the date of the article. The New Yorker is publishing articles FROM THE FUTURE!!!
- whodat51773, on 06/29/2008, -15/+48 "members of the Democratic leadership—Congress has been under Democratic control since the 2006 elections—were willing, in secret, to go along with the Administration in expanding covert activities directed at Iran" and so will be Amabo if elected
- gridbread, on 06/30/2008, -8/+40It's becoming more and more evident that everyone who said "he's almost out of office, there's no reason for impeachment" were dead wrong.
This president has more than enough time to make another huge mistake that will cost us our future. - CosmicH, on 06/29/2008, -18/+47Further perpetuating U.S. status as a bully state. *****.
- hoosiernorm, on 06/29/2008, -7/+36Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It's a secret.
- dukeeeey, on 06/29/2008, -11/+40Alex Jones predicts 911.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-122244572 ... - rzxc, on 06/29/2008, -9/+37I guess another reason for leaking this information would be...perhaps the neocons are trying provoke Iran into doing something stupid. Right now, there is no support for military action against Iran. But if Iran cracked down on its citizens in response to this article, perhaps the neocons could use that as an excuse for military action against Iran. Iran must be careful and not take the bait.
- Rotzooi, on 06/29/2008, -1/+29Huh?
/buried for nutjobbery - Ransack, on 06/30/2008, -14/+40A Short History of Iran
1951: Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh was elected prime minister. As prime minister, Mossadegh became enormously popular in Iran after he nationalized Iran's oil reserves.
1953 President Dwight D. Eisenhower authorized Operation Ajax. The operation was successful, and Mossadegh was arrested on 19 August 1953. US Puppet dictator installed as leader.
1979 The US Puppet Dictator is disposed in a popular revolution. The new leader supported by the people of Iran is understandably anti-american.
Iranians have every single right to hate and kill as many Americans as they possibly can. America has ***** Iran out of peace and democracy for generations all to get cheap oil for America.
Go ahead and bury this. Americans cant face the truth. - rzxc, on 06/29/2008, -9/+31The question is...who leaked this information? And for what purpose? I can think of two scenarios. First scenario. The information was leaked by the neocons. They believe this story will intimidate Iran into stopping its uranium enrichment program and they believe this story will force Iran into convincing the Iraqi government to sign an agreement with us. There is no way this story will achieve those ends, but the neocons are dumb enough to believe nonsense like that. The second scenario, which I think is more believable, is that this story was leaked by the Democrats, the military, and in particular, Secretary Gates. They know that the efforts to overthrow the Iranian government will fail. Not only that, they know that these operations will invite massive retaliation from Iran in Iraq and Afghanistan. They believe that if this story becomes public knowledge, our government will be forced to stop its operations. I hope they're right.
- aaryn, on 06/29/2008, -6/+27this was on cnn front page for about 10 mins then moved off to the side
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -13/+349/11 was a major boost of the nationalist extremists of the US.
in a few minutes of the attacks the whole of the US was screaming about revenge and destruction. nothing could be easier for a nationalist bigot.
now that time has passed I started realizing something deeper, it's not just a boost, Americans are just in a large proportion extremists/scared compared to others. they are easily trapped in a fairy tale of their heavily centralized media and movies making them weak, scared, easily extremists. - sfacets, on 06/29/2008, -13/+34Seriously Americans - what the hell are you doing?
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -6/+26"Islamofascists" = stupidity marker
- gonzap1, on 06/29/2008, -10/+27This is really getting ludicrous. I hope everyone that wants this war (which will make THREE wars since 2001). Last time I checked, I don't think we have the money for that one. Oh wait, you say, the Fed can print it. Me: Right you are and say hello to super inflation! Can someone tell my what if anything good will become of this other than making us look subservient to Israel once again. Thanks Israeli lobby. For all I care, the whole region could kill each other, and the U.S.A would better for it. I though the US was a bit smarter than this, we could reduce the money these countries have by the high price of oil by developing technologies that would dramatically reduce the demand for oil. Yet, we just send myself and others to go use weapons instead like some dumb ***** bully at school (fyi: I served in the Marines and conducted one tour in Iraq). Where is our brains people, using it would cost FAR LESS!
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -13/+30Now Obama, Mccain, bush all wants us in Iran. Is there no vote for peace?
- NotOptium, on 06/29/2008, -4/+20We need constructive, reasonable, logical arguments. Not name calling and singing "nah nah nee boo boo". Stop destroying America.
- ciaran036, on 06/30/2008, -2/+18Definitely. As a source of motivation, 9 protesters in my city broke into Raytheon's (US 'defence' company) offices and caused £20,000 of damage. They were taken to court, but walked away without charge. The jury decided that they had only done it in an effort to halt or delay production of weapons they knew were being used to murder innocent people in Lebanon.
I'm with you on this! Resisting is the only option - anti-war protesters are having minimal effect. Shouting abuse at McCain hasn't done anything - he ignores them, the assembled crowd or audience cheer like the sheep they are, the protester is thrown out, sometimes arrested, and the mainstream media ignores it entirely or calls them crazy tinfoil hat people... - kansascityman, on 06/29/2008, -10/+25We're going to eliminate ourselves! Dropping one bomb on Iran will send oil prices out of sight, and our economy will be devastated. it would take years to recover. This is insane!
- inactive, on 06/30/2008, -1/+16hes not the only kook saying that
i saw a mainstream news report with reporters talking about how the CIA was paying terrorists to carry out car bombings in iran
and the news casters were like 'good!' - diggthis123, on 06/29/2008, -12/+27Saddam rejected the dollar in 2001 and wanted Euros to be the currency for oil - after he is overthrown the dollar is the oil currency or "put back" if you will.
Ahmadinejad has rejected the dollar recently...
Dollar Diplomacy of the 21st century? Certainly worth looking at...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul303.html - 2reflective, on 06/30/2008, -4/+18He's also been right about the systematic devaluing of the dollar and the need to buy gold.
If you truly understand and follow what he says, you'll realize he's rarely wrong. Sometimes things just happen a few years later than he predicted. - vinod1978, on 06/30/2008, -0/+14@solid12345 - I assume you are talking about this phrase "...Iran finances insurgents... "
It's a pretty well known fact that Iran does indeed fund many of the insurgents in Iraq (so does Saudi Arabia but Bush is to buddy-buddy with them to do anything about it). What he was saying that WE - the United States have done this many times and we call it democracy. For example, we funded and provided the Taliban in Afghanistan which not only stopped the Russian invasion, but they in turn used the money and weapons against their own people. We also gave money to Iraq when Iran & Iraq were pissed off at each other and fighting - and we actually helped Saddam to become more powerful until we didn't like him going after Kuwait Oil.
What he says is true. We fund people when we say it is ok, and when other people do it we call them part of the axis of evil. We definitely have a double standard, and it is alarming that most of the mass media does not report it as such. What's is unique to the Bush Administration is that we are blatantly playing both sides of the coin and no one is calling Bush on it. We are now paying the same "terrorists" in Iraq that were killing American soldiers. What do you think they are going to do when we leave and stop paying them? - nblsavage, on 06/29/2008, -6/+19Oh great, you're back and still singing the same lame tune. Time to start the burying.
- truspect0r, on 06/30/2008, -1/+13Then go find the terrorist groups responsible. You don't go destroying the whole country.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 06/29/2008, -10/+22I'd hear that the terrorist group being funded by Bush is ... surprise, surprise, a group related to al Qaeda. Iran has been the #1 opponent of al Qaeda, and even was assisting us in the early days of the Afghanistan invasion.
So what has Bush not done for al Qaeda? And why are we allied with the people in Iraq that we used to call terrorists, while killing the people we used to be allies with? What does terrorist even mean when we support them as well?
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Among groups inside Iran benefiting from U.S. support is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People's Resistance Movement, according to former CIA officer Robert Baer. Council on Foreign Relations analyst Vali Nasr described it to Hersh as a vicious organization suspected of links to Al-Qieda.
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http://forums.houmatoday.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/83 ...
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/28/investigativ ...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/05160 ...
http://www.infowars.net/articles/april2007/060407A ... - nblsavage, on 06/29/2008, -3/+15Please feel free to show how Iran is a threat to mainland U.S.A.
- Gilgamesh73, on 06/30/2008, -1/+13Did anyone else catch the quote:
The Pentagon consultant told me, “We’ve had wonderful results in the Horn of Africa with the use of surrogates and false flags."
The Pentagon is admitting that they are conducting false flags. People, when will you wake up and realize 9/11 was a false flag?
Watch this video IMMEDIATELY before it is taken down: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cvdu_aaron-russ ... - peacepower, on 06/30/2008, -2/+14Number One: Tehran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. Number Two: Why do you think it is America's job to fund and protect socialist apartheid regime Israel? Number Three: Don't you read any posts about what's going on here? Number Four: Why would Tehran bomb Israel? It would be suicidal. Israel definitely has nukes, a lot of them, and ways to deliver them, unlike Iran.
Wright3279: Please consider that real talks to resolve the tensions in the Middle East would be what any selection of enlightened people would recommend - Jesus, Einstein, Buddha... We all need to begin thinking and acting like the wisest of our species, and not be led into the depths of hell by Bush, Cheney, and the like. - nblsavage, on 06/30/2008, -1/+12bclinton, what did 9/11 have to do with Iran? Or Iraq? Most of the attackers were Saudi. By your logic we should be invading Saudi Arabia. Oh, watch out, I think there is a terrorist in your closet! Booga Booga!
- cheezintern, on 06/30/2008, -4/+15Are you surprised? Many of the same people voted for war. They're mostly all hypocrites, but I think most people already know that.
- fuzzybeard, on 06/30/2008, -3/+14Yep. Bad news is, I'm afraid this time we're gonna be the Germans.
- toetagger, on 06/30/2008, -1/+12It is these kinds of actions that lead many around the world to say the US is the world's #1 country for state sponsored terrorism. Facts are facts.
- pauliusuza, on 06/30/2008, -1/+11Actually, the US "contractors" are being paid from YOUR money, do you know how is this money actually used? Will you ever?
- JonForTheWin, on 06/30/2008, -9/+19Not the only time someone has had to admit Alex Jones was spot the ***** on "just one time".
so sgiffy . . FAIL - flavioribeiro, on 06/29/2008, -5/+15You're not going crazy for Ahmadinejad. You're going crazy against an illegal war.
Most posts I read on Digg criticise the war because several thousand American troops have died. They say the war is unadvisable because the US military is spread too thin, because the economy is bad and the price of oil would rise.
Those are all fine reasons, but the problem with the war concerns its legality, and the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians. What do you think would happen if any other country operated covert missions inside the US to spy on its nuclear facilities, or try to overthrow the government? The US has been doing this to Iran for decades, and now is planning to impose a sea blockade.
A lot of people complain about Israel, as if they were responsible for this. Israel is only defending its immediate interest and the safety of its people. After all, Ahmadinejad did threaten them.
However, the United States has no business with Iran. Blaming Israel is just an attempt to transfer the responsibility for an illegal war. - ciaran036, on 06/30/2008, -8/+18"Military and civilian leaders in the Pentagon share the White House’s concern about Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but there is disagreement about whether a military strike is the right solution."
What??? The mainstream media are lying yet again.... For the millionth time Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. They do not have a single nuclear bomb. The NIE, IAEA, the CIA and the Iranians themselves have been saying this over and over again! The mainstream media KNOW this - they are the ones that reported it!
They surely can't be talking about Iran's nuclear ENERGY program, could they? The one that they have every right to continue with. - Gilgamesh73, on 06/30/2008, -1/+10Did anyone else catch the quote:
The Pentagon consultant told me, “We’ve had wonderful results in the Horn of Africa with the use of surrogates and false flags."
The Pentagon is admitting that they are conducting false flags. People, when will you wake up and realize 9/11 was a false flag?
Watch this video IMMEDIATELY before it is taken down: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cvdu_aaron-russ ... - Naieve, on 06/29/2008, -6/+15Umm, Congress is supposedly the will of the people.
How is Bush unilaterally making this decision when it is agreed to by the DEMOCRATIC Congress? - pauls88, on 06/29/2008, -4/+13secret?
- VitriolAndAngst, on 06/30/2008, -1/+10Before Bush started that axis of evil talk, we were more popular in Iran than in England (80% approval vs. 50% approval in a pole taken before the Iraq war. All the young kids wanted to BE AMERICANS, and it was a horrible shock when Bush went on TV saying they wanted to kill us -- right after Iran was sending troops to help America track down al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
So, why are we listening to lying weasels all the time who lied us into Iraq and are going to lie us into hurting a country that could have been our damn ally? - Jerky1312, on 06/29/2008, -2/+11Must suck to be living with such fear on a day to day basis. I would say I feel sorry for you, but its hard to feel sorry for idiots.
- unpluggedboy, on 06/30/2008, -1/+10If everybody knows, is it a secret?
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