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- Totz83, on 06/29/2008, -4/+37Will somebody please assassinate him, ffs
- DaleoftheUK, on 06/29/2008, -2/+21Will someone just shoot him please.
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -2/+22it is up to the Zimbabwean people to depose him, and no one else. he will eventually secure his own demise.
The universe will take out it's trash - gab00n, on 06/29/2008, -0/+19I wonder who he voted for?
- eigenweasel, on 06/29/2008, -2/+19Killing Mugabe won't stop Constantine Chiwenga being head of the army or Augustine Chihuri being head of the police, and these are the people orchestrating the campaign of violence across the country.
Mbeki could unseat ZANU-PF in a week by closing the border. China could unseat ZANU-PF by stopping the flow of arms they use to terrorize their people. But Elvis is more likely to intervene that either of these.
Zimbabwe is textbook example of what happens when there is a conjunction of:
(i) A statist, Marxist government that believes it owns the people of its country.
(ii) An unarmed citizenry dependent on its 'leaders' for security.
Removing just Mugabe won't change those fundamentals. (Still, I think some brave Zimbabwean should blow his ***** head off for purely moral reasons)
On a lighter note; thinking of taking your puppy to the vet in Zimbabwe? You might want to read the last three lines of this invoice first...
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/vetbill.jpg - HyperJack, on 06/29/2008, -3/+20Looks like Assassination is the dish of the day. How do we serve it?
- Totz83, on 06/29/2008, -1/+17Im Irish, regardless however, better men have died for less. I'll do it for 50,000 euro, but I want a sidekick named Clive.
- patpl22391, on 06/29/2008, -2/+18Hillarious, I was reading a news article yesterday that suggested that we should go in and dispose of Mugabe ourselves...I think we've tried this before. Then again, Bush has 90% approval ratings in Africa because of the billions and billions of dollars we send over there.
- MadOgre, on 06/29/2008, -1/+16The people of Zimbo don't have the means to overthrow the their government. He owns all the enforcement and he has all the guns.
- calgone, on 06/29/2008, -0/+13Ice cold.
- MadOgre, on 06/29/2008, -0/+7Preferably with a Hellfire Missle fired from a Predator Drone.
- ZenMojo, on 06/29/2008, -0/+7As a Liberal I have to say...I love me some assassinations. Truth is, my problem with war is WAR and the millions who suffer in the meantime, not killing some murderous *****.
And ***** Archduke Ferdinand, he had it coming. - BillE3, on 06/29/2008, -0/+6What is the U.N. doing about this? Is this not the purpose of the U.N.? Is that not the world court of opinion and good deeds?
- ZenMojo, on 06/29/2008, -0/+5Even if he didn't own all the guns, he owns all the tanks and planes.
And even if he didn't own all the tanks and planes, he owns all the missiles and bombs.
And so on, and so on, and so on.... - JakeyG14, on 06/29/2008, -0/+5Clive reporting for assassination duty, sir.
- Meep3D, on 06/29/2008, -0/+5At this point I think it is unfair to blame colonialism, and the easy get-out ir provides. Sure some of the problems are due to it, no argument there, but blaming the Evil Whitey(tm) is no longer a sufficient excuse anymore. The area has been screwed with no hope of repair for decades, literally.
The truth is black oppressors are just as bad as white oppressors - people are people irrespective of race. Until the people of that area stop blaming white oppression, ditch the racism, and look at how they can solve their own problems, rather than just dishing out blame, the area will never improve. - WileEPeyote, on 06/29/2008, -0/+5"but guess what - another person - just like him - will because president in his place and it will take forever for the world to wake up and do something about it again. rather sort the current mess out once and for all."
You know what, assassinate that one too, eventually they'll get the message. How do you sort out the current mess?
If someone had assassinated Saddam perhaps the world would be a better place in many ways, maybe it wouldn't have. I'm all for change :)
I don't even care if the whole world turns into a game of assassination against world leaders. ***** em, young men and women have been dying for their asses for too long as it is. - Nidy1, on 06/29/2008, -2/+6Unfortunately most of the US population has no idea about what's going on in Zimbabwe, so will probably not care what any politicians say about it/say they're going to do about it (if anything).
- clubdirthill002, on 06/29/2008, -0/+4Well, he is in his 80's, I bet nature will dispose of him before bush will.
- Memitim, on 06/29/2008, -0/+4No oil reserves over there. He's perfectly safe from us.
- novenator, on 06/29/2008, -0/+4power grows out the barrel of a gun. his supporters are the ones that have them, so its extremely difficult if not impossible for this to happen, which is why 'strongmen' like this persist throughout the world today
- joeanon, on 06/29/2008, -3/+7YEA, where did intervention get the Jews....oh wait...
It's the GOP pressing interventionism as a means for defense contracts. It's not that interventionism is flawed, it's that when you're doing it for defense contracts it's bound to fail.
Bad management can kill even the best idea, not that interventionism is the best idea, but at least if we picked off leaders like this we might actually win one. :P
We had no business beating back the Nazi's by your reasoning. The problems are much more complex, especially if you've gone an helped arm the leaders and then you expect their people to rise up against them with no prosperity to aid themselves.
Are you really arguing that poor starving people have just as much chance to revolt as the French or American's did ?
How about when France helped us win the Revolutionary War.
Was that more dead end interventionism ?
Overly simplifying the reality of things doesn't help anybody except the lazy armchair expert.
History shows interventionism works sometimes and fails others. There is no constant. - eigenweasel, on 06/29/2008, -1/+5No, just diamonds, gold, platinum, palladium, rhodium, and some of the world's most fertile farmland.
- granolajoe, on 06/29/2008, -1/+5Their function is to serve as powerful finger-waggers, "condemning" actions by corrupt governments, and then forgetting about it shortly after.
- kilps, on 06/29/2008, -1/+4that would be one of the worst things which could happen - the world would all calm down because the tyrant would now be gone, but guess what - another person - just like him - will because president in his place and it will take forever for the world to wake up and do something about it again. rather sort the current mess out once and for all.
- viggooo, on 06/29/2008, -1/+4There is no oil in Zimbabwe, therefore no reason to do anything there.
- julianrod, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Assassination is a dish best served sugar-coated
- Risingashes, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Being white doesn't give you an inherent superiority.
The problem is an education asymmetry.0hN0 and Beyond- you both have a problem with rash generalisations and an inability to properly analyse a situation: I hope you are able to fix this in the future. - inactive, on 06/29/2008, -0/+3the most popular folk hero in the 3rd world of course, Michael Jackson.
- MadOgre, on 06/29/2008, -0/+3Yeah, pretty much.
- Yage2006, on 06/29/2008, -0/+3Ya that has worked so well for you hasn't it?
- Naieve, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Let the UN deal with it, the USA is on its way to isolationism.
And Europe, please don't drag us out of it again and into the 2 most deadly conflicts in human history.
We don't want anymore wars, its your problem now. The USSR isn't a big threat anymore and you guys have plenty of troops. Go to it. We'll send a token force to like, guard the Atlantic while you are gone, how's that sound. - Naieve, on 06/29/2008, -0/+3We could send guns to the people and teach them how to fight.
But then the world would call us terrorists.
It's the way of the world, you can never win.
Best off just not playing.
I say we leave the ME, keep our money, pull back our military but keep it well trained and sizeable, then sit back and let Europe, China, and Russia take the lead. Or maybe the UN. Who cares, the job of world leader sucks, I quit. - Memitim, on 06/29/2008, -0/+2Damn right. There's no reason that the people who start this ***** should be exempt from participating.
- writie, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2The current Germany is a better example, built from the ground up after the war. It can be done, and many countries in Africa have mineral deposits.
- theJeebus, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2No, it would actually improve chances:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id ... - loopyloopy, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2i think one of the major obstacles is that Mugabe is still seen as a hero to many non-whites around the world. Countries such as India still fervently support his regime. Unfortunately the point is being missed by many whites from countries like the UK who highlight the recent racist policies of Zimbabwe. This does Mugabe's opponents a disservice as in reality the oppression is widespread and the majority of the population is suffering from this corrupt government.
- psevium, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2The UN does jack *****. Wasn't it the League of Nations/UN who stood by while Germany pissed all over Europe?
- Naieve, on 06/29/2008, -0/+2LOL. Europe practice what it preaches?
France Ivory Coast....
They are so lucky the world spends its time ignoring them and bashing the USA... - mdk31, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2Nothing like a good revolution.
- inactive, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2Your blaming colonialism??? The problem here is DEcolonialism. Europeans brought civilization to Rhodesia, and the Africans ruined it and called it Zimbabwe. That is the truth. ***** equality, ***** egalitarianism. Evolution is real and is not just limited to every other creature than human.
- pcghost, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2I believe he would be referring to World Wars I and II.
History.. It's more than just a channel. - synik, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2That's *****.
Every time there is an online discussion about Africa, some idiot comes out with "it's Africa... the west won't get involved because they hate brown people, they are racist!".
Total *****. The west won't get involved because the more they try to help Africa, the more of a mess they make. Kick out one corrupt government, another one rises up even more corrupt than before.
The only other option for the west is to take and hold countries. Guess what happens if the west tries that? the rest of the world (and Africa) screams "COLONIALISM!"
It's best to just stay out of the place, and let the Africans clean up their own mess for once. - writie, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2As Zw was a British colony, there is a degree of truth in that.
- inactive, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3Europeans should have never decolonized Africa.
- hDt1, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2nope. we hate him as well...
- Sinudeity, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2The zimbabwe situation is *****! Mbeki (President of SA, and the most powerful country in Africa) REFUSES to take action, because Mugabe was his 'struggle buddy' back in apartheid days. You guys are incorrect in saying the US is not interfering (due to oil you smug bastards), US ambassadors have been chased out of the country. Unfortunately they CANNOT send armed forces, because its an African issue. The SADC (South African Development Community) and the AU (Africans UN), keep having meetings about meetings about meetings about Zimbabwe. Like I mentioned, brothers in arms back in the day. It disgusts me, the voter intimidation and murder going. PLEASE, someone assasinate this MONKEY!!!
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -0/+2Yea, because killing people worked so well in Northern Ireland.
- ScurM, on 06/29/2008, -0/+2I agree, its up to the people. The international community cannot do anything besides strong worded letters ator economic sanctions at best. Any attempt at sending UN moderators or any similar action would probably be viewed as a threat by Mugabe and all hell might break loose.
- inactive, on 06/29/2008, -0/+2What could they do anyway.
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