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- MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -17/+123I heard they found snakes on a plane
- Schrade, on 10/12/2007, -16/+83Oh, I dunno. Maybe ask some grown-ups.
- grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54Or you can get drunk and pass out to the in flight movie.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -8/+47Wow, that's horrible, there is no way I could stand the 10 hour flight from UK to US without my goods beneath my seat to keep me sane.
These terrorists are genius. they didn't kill anyone but they've insured mass misery. i feel sorry for my britain brothers :'( (i'm american) - theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -9/+46That's the problem, when the police say they've foiled a terrorist attack and made several arrests no-one really believes it because ironically without the actual attack to prove it, peoples trust in the government has been hit pretty hard.
Technically this news is something on the level of 9/11 - several airliners targeted at once, if it had happened we would be watching smoking wreckage on TV by now and it would be a major news event for several weeks. Now it will just be a semi-major event for about 5 hours, I doubt it will even make the headlines tomorrow.
That means everyone feels nice and safe, we dealt with the terrorist problem everything's ok, but really we either just had something approaching the level of 9/11 or our governments are lying monumentally, or the police are incompetent and have just arrested a dozen people because one of them was carrying a Koran and an informant had doodled a picture of a plane blowing up.
Either way something big just happened that most people wont appreciate. - synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34We've been hearing since 7/7 about how an attack was expected in the UK and was in fact, seen by many as being 'imminent'. I thought it was a load of hot air but apparently there is a clear and present danger. The question is, from who? The article is extremely skimp on the details- I dont want to read about how the reporters had to turn in their ipods, I want to read about who is trying to blow up UK planes, what their motives were and what are the chances of there being other cell-members in the country with similar plans.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Sadly, yes. This just proves that ID cards are utter crap. All 18 people arrested are british citizens - the same as 7/7. ID cards would have done precisely *nothing*. But the government won't admit that.
- fowleryo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33You could consider starting a conversation.. or maybe reading?
- grammarpolice, on 10/12/2007, -16/+41Maybe they wanted to be caught on purpose! That way they know the government will make traveling such a bitch for the everyday traveler. No luggage no laptops or mp3 players?!?! I would definitely be pissed off.
- sobriquet, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28My poor mother. She's inflight to Heathrow as I post. And here she was worried before...
- ebescan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29I guess you will have to live in silence for once. Lately I've been making a conscious effort to not listen to music in the car or when I'm doing something. I instead listen to what's around me and only listen to music as a concentrated activity.
(after reading this, I note that it sounds wacky...I guess being a musician makes active listening easier) - EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26On the BBC they are referring to them as "Asians." This is usually PC for "Muslim".
- zombo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27@ synaesthesia:
Just maybe its something to do with the folk who can be found marching around London most weekends chanting "Death to Israel, Death to America, Death to UK". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+39wowbagger,
You lost me at towel head
bigot
P.S. I'm wide ***** awake and clear-headed - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21http://news.google.com/
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20"What flight you taking, i've never had my flights be 10 hours.."
I live in seattle. it takes about 10 hours to london. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23After watching 'The Power of Nightmares' (it's on YouTube, watch it), I can't help but feel a little cynical. Our warning system is being changed to match the US system shortly - i.e. ridiculously alarmist. It'd be a good coop to have that new system start right at the highest level, wouldn't it?
I mean the restrictions they've put in place today are COMPLETELY ludicrous, even if there is a threat. You can't even take a newspaper on board. If you take baby food, customs will make you open it and eat some. Get real. That's not a terrorist threat, that's a way of scaring the ***** out of people. - unknowndomain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19@fowleryo - If you read the article, 'Passengers will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK, the department said' i.e. No books, mp3 players, laptops, dvd players, or any thing.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -15/+29Yeah, keep on believing that propoganda that is fed to you. If terrorists hate the freedom you have, why aren't they going after the rest of the planet too? Get a clue.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24I give it 2 weeks before we magically have the same thing in the US and they refuse to allow us to carry on anything, as well.
Something is up, and it isn't terrorism. - yukevster, on 10/12/2007, -14/+26I agree, just sit in silence for once in your life. Sit and notice what goes on in your head, notice and stay with your breath and body sensations - for a majority of people in the West this is extremely difficult but always rewarding. Meditate, you might actually experience life as it really IS for once.
- theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17France did not ban headscarves and tell Muslims to ***** off, they banned religious symbols in state run schools and 2 ***** retarded kids were being chased by police (the police are allowed to chase people right?) and ran into a sub-station where they were electrocuted. Then half the immigrant population of France went ***** ape ***** for a couple of weeks because they are spoilt little ***** who have not even the most basic appreciation for the fact that they were let in to France where they could at least have a roof over their heads while in other countries kids are dying in the open air from exposure and starvation daily, so what they did is burn every car in sight even though the car owners had nothing to do with the with any of it and they ended up burning a bus full of disabled people because they are savage *****. Then they have the ***** cheek to make demands that France changes its ways and curbs certain freedoms, then they have the ***** cheek to demand we accommodate them? ***** that the only responsibility France has is to give back the Islands it stole - that is an injustice but instead of fighting for that these retards start fighting retarded causes that are none of their ***** business. They can go ***** themselves.
- Itkovian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12You certainly won't be taking that bottle of water along, as all liquids are forbidden.
- AnteChronos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16As a grammar nazi of sorts, I have to object to the wording of the headline. The way it's written, it parses as "Terrorist plot foiled in order to blow up an aircraft". It should have been written as, "Terrorist plot to blow up aircraft foiled." That way, it's clear that the phrase, "to blow up aircraft," is modifying the plot, rather than indicating the reason that the plot was foiled.
Feel free to digg me down, but after the Rogers Cable contract dispute, it's obvious that correct grammar is a Big Deal, and to more people than grammar nazis. - nocountries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13What motive would Blair have for staging this. It's ridiculous. People will blame him for making Britain's airports a more likely terror target for allowing the US to use UK airports to get bombs to Israel. He has nothing to gain by "staging" this propaganda victory for Hezbollah.
- SirCharge, on 10/12/2007, -16/+27Chances are its Muslim terrorists. In spite of your flippant response there really is several million people who wish you were dead because you live in the wrong hemisphere and don't worship the Koran.
- aquataine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13If you manage to smuggle a bomb on board, what difference does it make if it's in the cabin or down in the hold?
- themulf, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19As much as this is great news, its also a boost to those whom advocate increased surveillance...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16Bravo. Congratulations to the United Kingdom for foiling a vile atrocity before it could take place.
This is how security *should* be carried out. The British seem very good at security in general, perhaps partly because of the cultural importance of order & rank in England, but probably also experience of dealing with IRA terrorism, which plagued the UK for a very long time. - bodger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Breaking news: "Suspicions were aroused when passengers were seen trying to enter the aircraft washrooms carrying Diet Coke and Mentos."
- theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Why not just do away with everything? you can buy water on the plane, you can use their entertainment system, web, email, im sure in the near future you'll be able to buy a change of clothes, baby milk, medicine, inhalers etc. This could be a real boom for the airlines: you go through security naked and buy everything from the airline.
- EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11The airlines will be happy to rent you their pre-screened ipods for $20 per flight.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+23wowbagger,
W R O N G !
they are british born citizens.
Stop lying. - weeFred, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Yous people are deluded with conspiracy theories, come back to the real world. Go stand next to one of the many fanatical muslim gatherings in the UK and you will see them.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs
good example, these are the sort that we should gather up and ship and send them to iran, see what happens to them when they protest in an islamic country. - ThirstyFerret, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11For those in the uk, (or anyone else via a UK proxy) you can watch the BBC News coverage live...http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/bb_rm_fs.stm?bbram=1&bbwm=1&nbram=1&nbwm=1&news=1&checkedBandwidth=bb&checkedMedia=ram&subtitles=hide
Come on people, this is a good thing that lives have been saved. One BBC correspondent has said that there were 18 or more arrests just after midnight, and that they suspect they were trying to blow up 3 or more planes, maybe simultaneously. - Hawk2007, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@ Qtip42
"How the hell do you sit through a 5 hour flight without an MP3 player? "
Ask people from the pre-2000 era - dchesterton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@weeFred, thanks for posting that video.
How the hell are these people allowed to stay in our country? I'm sorry but I have had ***** enough of these people threatening our country with murder when we house these people; if they don't like it then they should get out of our country.
What if a bunch of christians had made a similar protest as this one in an arab country? We would be slaughtered; I'm not saying this is the answer but it's about time we sort this out before there is a major civil war in the UK. - bigfatelvis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Well, I am big and fat.
- scratt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Damn! TIme to buy a new wallet if other people can see it! ;)
- WilliamTanksley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9MiloMindrbindr: you said: "I dont know what Koran you've read, but the one I did said nothing about it being ok to kill people in the name of their religion."
The hadith says that, not the Koran. The hadith is, to the Moslems, equivalent to the Christian Bible -- i.e. it's got a lot of different people talking, and some of them are speaking truth and some aren't. Moslems have to interpret it carefully. (The Koran is different -- it's the precise words of Allah, not filtered or altered by the dictation process.) So some believe it's okay, some believe that it's not unless they're actively opposing the army of an Islamic land.
On the other hand: The Koran says that if a good Moslem dies normally, he'll be judged depending on whether he's done more good or bad. So there's no way of knowing were you're going. The Koran also says that if he dies in battle for Islam, he'll go straight to heaven regardless of the balance of good and evil in his life. So there's a HUGE incentive for a guilty-feeling person to pick the interpretation of the hadith that requires the death of infidels -- especially because if that interpretation is wrong, the Koran overrides the punishment for the error.
"Jihad is just the Islamic version of the Crusades."
That's not too far from right, if you read it backwards. Crusades were a response to the HUGE success of the Islamic countries in invading and conquering Christian countries. Part of the response was to attempt the same thing as Islam did: the Pope declared that anyone who died fighting would be absolved of all sin. This declaration is ENTRELY unprecedented in Christianity; there's no support for it of any kind. However, it's clearly a mirror of the Koran's statement about martyrdom.
So Crusades were almost precisely the Roman Catholic version of Islam's War against the dar al harb.
-Billy - Arcarsenal, on 10/12/2007, -15/+22I wouldnt be surprised if this was just a load of crap. Just like when the US said we stopped a plot from "terrorists"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8a4z9N3eYc
Or maybe the UK is more honest and Im just used to the government ***** me.
I dunno - SpeckledJim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"the US government is a symbol for religious freedom"
Are you serious? - ThirstyFerret, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Please remember this is still breaking, and despite the BBC giving out as much information as they can, the police are gonna be tight because of how terrorist organisations use the internet to communicate.
There will be news. - Petrarch1603, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12you might as well book your passage on a boat now
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Here at Digg, the following rules apply:
Police doing their job = Overbearing pigs abusing their power while they help the government set up all these neat conspiracies.
Police not doing their job = Bush/Blair's fault.
Can we just rename this place Catch-22.com and get it over with? - cyberdork, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Yeah, I have the same feeling. There is no information whatsoever about how serious this plan was. I could imagine this is solely based on a few comments from a wire-tapped guy who had some hypothetical plan.
Unfortunately, I am sure that many people will get the impression that some guys were arrested at the airport or even inside the plane while carrying explosives. But I guess that's exactly the purpose of such a press release. - EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16"If terrorists hate the freedom you have, why aren't they going after the rest of the planet too?"
You mean like Spain, India, Turkey, Morocco, Russia, Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, Israel, USA, Peru, Indonesia, Somalia, Egypt, Greece, Thailand, Kashmir, Myanmar, Jakarta, Pakistan, Afghanistan and on and on...?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents - heathaze, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Possibly they have better scanning for hold luggage? Supposedly the hold x-ray units are a good deal more powerful (which is why photo film shouldn't go in the hold).
Unfortunately much of airline security is based around ensuring that passengers travel with their luggage - but this method doesn't work if soneone's willing to be a suicide bomber.
I agree with the OP though - a bomb could easily be in the hold, and be triggered by something like an altimeter. - gadgetuk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I got totally the wrong end of the stick from reading the Reuters headline (that they've changed now, rats)....
Police have foiled a plot to cause "mass murder on an unimaginable scale" by blowing up several aircraft in mid-flight between Britain and the U.S.
Whaaaaa??? - Petrarch1603, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7your name is elvis and you're upset that any step could be your last?
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