What is Digg?142 Comments
- MurderMystery, on 10/12/2007, -5/+91I hope they enjoy it when there is only 1 girl for every 50 men. It is gonna be a sausage fest.
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -8/+54Perhaps you should have been killed as a baby instead?
- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42@Junkyarddawg
This is not a discussion on abortion, why are you on that soapbox?
It is a discussion about a culture that has (IMHO) a warped gender view.
Abortion is a peripheral consequence of that cultural viewpoint. - voldak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32"The minute the child is born and she opens her mouth to cry, they put sand into her mouth and her nostrils so she chokes and dies," Ms Chowdhury said, referring to cases in the western desert state of Rajasthan.
One of the saddest quotes I've heard in a long time. I have a young daughter and I think it would be impossible to do that to your child. Those people are very much wrapped up in their culture. Killing a child because of dowry (or any other reason) is no excuse. - ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29***** mad, mostly traditions and culture are a great way to pass beneficial, Hard learned lessons of the past on to future generations.
But this is just crazy.
In another context, 10million dead in 20 years from one demographic group would be called genocide. - cyberdork, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32Article: "The minute the child is born and she opens her mouth to cry, they put sand into her mouth and her nostrils so she chokes and dies"
anciejew's comment: "Am I the only one who thinks this is a good thing?"
I hope you are. - BattleBaconXXL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27If this continues do you think there will eventually be a female shortage in India like there is in China now?
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25"Most men don't have a problem with ploygamy. Neither do most women. "
The world inside your ass is a lot different than the real world. Why not pull your head out and take a look? - Jagdhund, on 10/12/2007, -14/+30You lost your libertarian soapbox when you said the word 'subsidize'. Either you are a liar, or you are a liberal in libertarian clothing.
- mogus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18If that Star of David is any indication of your religious/racial origins, I suggest you rethink your comment. Father Abraham was promised posterity greater in number than the sands of the sea, or have you forgotten? People need to start thinking about children as a benefit, and do what it takes to help them grow and feel valued, not see them as little leeches on the world's supply of resources.
- MaddDog, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Their traditions are so great, but do they realize what they are doing to their children? I guess its going to be great growing up in a country where there are no females. You have lots of sons, but you will have no grandchildren!!!!
Maybe someone forgot to tell them that you need male+female for future generations? - Jagdhund, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22Subsidizing education for women is sexist and goes further to place them apart from males in every category. I'll am to think you support the racist standard of affrimative action, too? You're right about the pro-choice part of things, or at least, I agree. In the end, it will be the society that determines the worth of women, not your biased, liberal laws. Educate, not legislate.
Thank you for showing me that I was right, though, with your paltry quote. You don't need to call yourself libertarian if you're just going to ignore the main points of the party. I don't call myself libertarian and I do agree with almost all of their platform.
Please don't call yourself a Libertarian in the future. - lgringo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Six million people are killed for religious reasons in the 1940's and the world calls it genocide and, we are taught in school that people who do this, are the scum of the earth, yada yada yada. And I believe it with all my heart.
Ten million girls are killed for cultural reasons in the last twenty years and, the world doesn't care. Nobody gives a rat's ass.
Where did the moral law of humanity went? Killed because they were born "woman"?
What kind of sick world is this becoming? - Ramtech, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19I guess they never thought to let the girl make her own dowry by letting her have an education... but of course... indian men don't like their pride to be ruined...
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Slow (or even reverse) population growth in India, China, and other over populated countries = very good.
Murder of newborn babies = very bad.
Sexual imbalance in a society creates many problems, though I doubt these numbers are high enough to have significant impact in a country with 1 billion+ people.
I have no problem with abortion (first trimester only, unless there's health risk), but I do have a problem with selective abortion that kills off perfectly healthy, capable human beings. - anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10unpleasant males.
- np374, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11When My grandpa got married he refused to accept a dowry and that was like 50+ years ago, this practice makes me ashamed of being Indian.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11if his link become sluggish
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061214/india_nm/india280322 - ememessien, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"And as someone now is guaranteed to start yelling about the problems with society where women are considered less worth than men: yes, THAT'S what the state needs to do something about. You don't achieve improved status for women by banning fetal diagnostics and abortion"
Best point made in this thread by a mile.
The basis of the problem can be found in the very clear and dogmatic gender roles within Indian society. Until this problem is solved Indians will continue to stigmatize women and female babies. - member57, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I have two, and guard I them with my life.
- cyberscape2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Wrapped up" is putting it mildly.
This is the culture that, while certainly understated nowadays, still clings to a caste system in which certain people's lives are worth less than a dog's.
Keeping that in mind, this twisted mindset really isn't so far fetched. Children are so amazingly precious, yet, without a long-term purpose, many Indians are more concerned with their heritage and their prosperity than their families. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11what's a girl to do?
china: aborted
india: infanticide
africa: clitoris removed
pakistan: raped
afghanistan: beaten
iran: stoned
good times - justintsmith, on 10/12/2007, -13/+20This practice is terrible for India's future..
With no pleasant female voices around, who will staff all the call centers? - mogus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I think the quote you were looking for is: "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." -Josef Stalin I guess as far as you're concerned, as long as the shortage of females doesn't get too bad, that it isn't a big deal.
- jstevewhite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I'm interested in the future for China and India. There's a direct inverse correlation between the number of young (under 30) unmarried males and the stability of a given society. We'll see if this correlation continues to occur soon enough, eh?
- thestorey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8http://thestorey.ifastnet.com/letulive.jpg
quickie - ninjacob, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12That's ***** up...Indian girls can grow up to be hotties :-(
- thepeacemaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10This phenomenon is growing with better scanning technology (now on mobile vans doing the rounds in villages) that tells even earlier in a pregnancy whether its a boy or girl. In some locations, the ratio of women to men has gone down to 75:100. There are now cases where families are buying girls as brides from Bangladesh and neighboring states. The logic goes that a wife is a necessity but a daughter is a burden. The main culprit is dowry that the bride's family has to give to get their daughter married. But recently the tides have turned. The mahila (ladies) commission can and does arrest entire families even without evidence if a lady complains that her inlaws are harrassing her for dowry. With economic reforms, thanks to a brilliant economist prime minister, things are definitely heading in the right direction.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9My wife has had 4 miscarriages how could you choose that? You don't want them we will be happy to fly there and pick them up.
- Trat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Is that why most Indian guys on Yahoo chat want to show their penis to me (man)?
- staplez, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11The sick sad reality is both China and India are sorely overpopulated. One could say that killing female babies is a gross inhuman thing, or we could look past humanity and see nature correcting itself.
We may think we're "beyond" nature, I know we love to, but no we're part of nature and nature controls our actions. Often when a species is overpopulated in an area, the parents will kill it's young or mistreat or ignore it's young. It's natural, look at hamsters. What we're seeing in both China and India is a natural population corrections. Similar to there being more homosexuals there as well. Homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
I'm sure there will be those who digg me down. But know this, I have lived in China working for an Indian company. I have met more people in both countries than you guys will ever. It's sick, it's sad, but it's also uncontrollable. Banning abortions won't work, giving subsidies won't work. Banning abortions will just make them kill the babies later, subsidies aren't ever going to be enough to make them want to keep the females. This is nature's power at it's finest people. Sick, sad, whatever we are it's prey, it will win. - rubicante, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Mother is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all children.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Last I heard, the Hindu religion had no problem with condoms. (Look at a package of lifestyles... guess where they're made)
You're the first person I've ever seen confuse The Pope's misguided view on contraception and 1.2 billion Hindus.
I'll forgive you... They DO look alike after all (The Pope and Indians as a whole look like each other that is) - Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6From things i have heard the boxer rebellion in China was triggered by men gathering in cities looking for women because of theis exact type of thing, Rumors were spread that the English were killin female babies to make medicine from their organs and thats why there wasn't enough women. Silly, but that's one of the things my history prof went off about.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6do you think it's a good thing only because they are not "the chosen people" and do not matter? you of all people should realize that genocide is not a good thing. on hanukkah no less.
- missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11First term abortion is a lot different than smothering a newborn.
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Iran wants to see what would happen"
But then who would buy their oil? - argoff, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10WalkingDead is correct, I don't know why he was buried. India didn't have dowry till the British came along and banned polygamy. Polygamy wasn't common. but it was still practiced enough to keep women from starving and to keep overburdened families from supporting their daughters for life. So then it became a bidding war, and men started demanding dowry, but that just had the effect of driving the poor woman's family into more poverty, so then they outlawed dowry and created severe punishments for it. It got so bad that the woman's family started to demand payment from the men by blackmailing them, saying they'd turn the man in for demanding dowry if he didn't pay them! So now it is even harder to marry off a bride, families are getting stuck in starvation, and women are getting killed!
Well, how about if the Indian government gets the hell out of the marriage business all together and lets people do whatever the hell they want. And how about if the western culture stops being so bigoted about polygamy.
The blood of those 10 million women is on our hands as much as anyone elses. - Darkness123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4When I read the title I thought it was about aborting the child while in the womb when the parents found out it was a girl. But after I read it I wished I never did. How could their be Millions of parents willing to do that to their children?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This isn't honor killing.
Honor killing is killing of a woman in a muslim town after she did something to dishonor a family... Such as have the audacity to be violently raped by her brother. After all, it's HER fault. - PabloMac, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8All human life is sacred, both in and out of the womb.
- jstevewhite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm pro-choice, but still I think you have to compare the US 1M average abortions per year (1973-2000, http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5212a1.htm ), and one might assume that half were female. The numbers from the article included abortions, IIRC.
- Diggerr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Do you have any idea that you're talking about the 19th century or earlier? You might as well talk about witches being burned at the stakes.
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@anotnicejew
stop breathing, killing a child horribly is never a good thing. - FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Consider the number included abortions of girls before they were born, factor that into the American numbers as well
- ememessien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's slightly unfortunate (and unsettling) that a number of people in this thread continue to cite the overpopulation in India as justification for murder.
Both the overpopulation and the female infanticide have a common cause- the treatment of Indian women as second class citizens. This is best highlighted by the issue of what 'rape' in India means- I seem to remember reading an article about how hard it would be to prosecute a husband for rape. For those who still can't see what I'm driving at, rape and the lack of contraceptives leads to more (often unwanted by the mother) children.
Women with a respecting husband and agood educational grounding allied with equal opportunities are less likely to choose to have 8, 9 or 10 children. - ulyssesyt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6there are no statistics to back up the minister's claim of ten million (its a guess), though the practices he describes are real.
also, India has millions of college educated women working in white collar and governmental jobs, adn teh number grows every year. the problem he's describing is (unfortunately) mostly confined to the very poor and to rural areas. - PabloMac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Generalizing like that makes YOU look ignorant.
Just because this practice has supposedly been "done in almost all developing or underdeveloped countries" doesn't make it right.
The fact that you say it's not alarming is alarming to those of us who see value in ALL human life. - PabloMac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"The major cause is with the overpopulation..."
Well, that and lack of respect for human life. - kakapu4u, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@joe122370 - it's no different than abortion in this country
Which country is that? It might be better if you try to say things like "Here in the US," if you're from the United States because we don't really know where you're from, and some of us may be curious. -
Show 51 - 100 of 141 discussions
Check out the new & improved 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is 