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- WilliamCrandall, on 06/15/2009, -3/+97
"Meanwhile, the media's ten-day visas almost all expire this week, and the regime has refused to extend them. That leaves it free to act as savagely and brutally as it needs to snuff out the last vestiges of revolt." - richmomz, on 06/15/2009, -5/+66I applaud the Iranian people for making their voices heard in a show of civil disobedience and demanding transparency from their government - the Iranian government's actions in response to this have been deplorable by any measure. If Ahmadinejad legitimately won then so be it, but the people (and the world) deserve to know the truth.
- zephc, on 06/16/2009, -2/+58"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson
Go Iranian people! Liberty-loving people everywhere are rooting for you. - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -6/+60They should replace it with 2 corporate sponsored parties who both maintain the status quo, while giving the people an idea they are making a big choice when they vote.
- faskippy, on 06/16/2009, -4/+45I don't know if the election was rigged, or not. What I do know, is that Obama doesn't want to touch this mess with a 10 foot pole. And he probably shouldn't. If you watched his news conference today, you know what I mean.
I'm all for fair elections. And if they were cheated, then THEY should do something about it. Secondwheel2 has a good point about Mousavi. This reminds me of the time we helped out some ***** named Bin Laden. Oh, and then there was another time when we helped out some guy named Sadaam Hussein. You'd never guess what happened next!
It's bad, I know. Root for them, pray for them, do whatever you want to do. Just don't start thinking that it's our job to be world police, and go stick our damn noses into other Countries' elections, when we can't even have an honest one our damn selves. I mean, you don't think we should be in Iraq, because it's not our place to go nosing around other peoples Countries, right? Surely you wouldn't forget that now. - NoLibertarians, on 06/15/2009, -26/+65I think the citizens are realizing if they don't do something soon someone else will. I hope they have the power and resolve to do so, but I seriously doubt it. The resolve yes, the power no.
- FlaG8r, on 06/16/2009, -1/+39The People of Iran's Seven Point Statement (released today by Tehran Bureau):
1. Dismissal of Khamenei for not being a fair leader.
2. Dismissal of Ahmadinejad for his illegal acts.
3. Temporary appointment of Ayatollah Montazeri as the Supreme Leader.
4. Recognition of Mousavi as the President.
5. Forming the Cabinet by Mousavi to prepare for revising the Constitution,
6. Unconditional and immediate release of all political prisoners.
7. Dissolution of all organs of repression, public or secret. - richmomz, on 06/15/2009, -7/+40We understand that we are better off than Iran - we just want to make sure it stays that way!
- richmomz, on 06/15/2009, -10/+42NoLibs is standing up for Liberty and the right of people to speak out against their government?! I never thought I'd see the day.
- torchednoodle, on 06/16/2009, -1/+30I see what you did there
- ArchetypeRyan, on 06/16/2009, -2/+29That may be the case, but a toppling of the current regime would send a big message to any would-be future leaders and open the country to the possibility of improved democracy in the future.
Also, I believe Obama is keeping quiet specifically so that the protesters are not linked to the U.S. regime, which would hurt the legitimacy of their cause. Still, he knows that a free Iran would be safer in the long run than one run by a puppet democracy. - dieboldcracy, on 06/16/2009, -4/+25in other News, US DOD now declares that protest is a form of terrorism
http://open.salon.com/blog/dennis_loo/2009/06/14/d ... - BigO494, on 06/16/2009, -4/+25How To Set Up An Anonymous Proxy For Iranians Using Squid on Mac OS X : http://tiny.cc/enUJb
On Windows: http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/15/how-to-setup ...
PLEASE DIGG THIS UP - BigO494, on 06/16/2009, -5/+25How To Set Up An Anonymous Proxy For Iranians Using Squid on Mac OS X : http://tiny.cc/enUJb
On Windows: http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/15/how-to-setup ... - yarcod, on 06/15/2009, -17/+35Don't be silly richmomz. You may have missed it, it's subtle. "[S]omeone else will" means the US will do it even if they don't want it... and they will do it the way they want it regardless of what the people want.
Oppression is OK, as long as it's the US government doing it. - DougChristian, on 06/16/2009, -0/+17That's already what they're doing. Replace corporate with Ayatollah.
They're actually a lot like us. Strict authoritarian laws on vice. Majority of right-wing nut bags. Semi-puppet president. We should be friends. - durruticolumn, on 09/18/2009, -1/+18
I'm actually honestly seriously concerned about Jason Jones. - torchednoodle, on 06/16/2009, -4/+19Time to celebrate with some Freedom Kebabs!
- asgardshill, on 06/16/2009, -3/+17The US doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to genuinely helping oppressed people in other countries. I'm sure they will come to see the wisdom of us not throwing US gasoline onto their brush fire.
- Midtowner, on 06/16/2009, -0/+13I'm guessing that the government doesn't let regular folks own guns in Iran.
- 1stAmendFan, on 06/16/2009, -8/+21I'm sure the CIA and western intel agencies are doing their best to agitate things behind the scenes...
- whipnet, on 06/16/2009, -1/+14American article? American journalist?
Fail.
* - richmomz, on 06/15/2009, -13/+25Ah, I think you may be right - too bad I got my hopes up.
- torchednoodle, on 06/16/2009, -2/+14Way to begin your overly long and masturbatory comment with a glaring inaccuracy. This was reported by The Times, which is not an American news service.
But please, don't allow that to get in the way of your Digg thesis on the state of Iranian politics, we're all hanging on every word. - kingmanic, on 06/16/2009, -0/+12Most prudent thing for the US to do is let it play out. Should they interject all of sudden Ahmadinejad has a scape goat and a diversion.
- superkendall, on 06/16/2009, -2/+14The killing and brutal beating of protestors has shown us the truth of the matter.
The question is, does anyone care what the truth really is? No one with power it appears. It's Ahmadinejad by a backslide! - Fudgefactor7, on 06/16/2009, -0/+11We Americans ought to take heed more often of this American's fine words.
Go Persians! Fight for your rights and freedoms! The world is watching! - cesclaveria, on 06/16/2009, -0/+10ehhh... isn't "Supreme Leader" the correct term?
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -9/+18Nolibs So you believe its ok for the states to fall into tyranny like iran? Why not prevent tyrany before you have to fight against it? Don't you think tyranny grows from a seed? You dont just wake up one day and jackbooted thugs are marching down the street. It takes decades and millions of idiots like yourself for tyranny to breed and if world history is any indicator we could easily fall into a nightmare existence.
- 1longtime, on 06/16/2009, -1/+10Hold on there, troopers. We cannot export freedom to every country in the world by military means.
Can you imagine how many countries would be on that list?
If you're referring to economic incentives and diplomacy, then yes perhaps the US can *help* end tyranny, but invading every tyrannical nation? Um, sounds like an expensive and fruitless waste of life. - superkendall, on 06/16/2009, -0/+9The revolution is beyond the man now. Even if he wins he will not be going down the same path he was before...
And frankly there is no way he's as bat ***** insane as the current leader. - card51short, on 06/15/2009, -18/+27NoLibs what if JUST MAYBE we were so passionate about this not because WE WANT tyranny to come to America but because we honestly fear that it is coming?
Nah...couldn't be...we're just anti-American Ron Paul supporters coming to GIT YA!!!!
BOO! - 1stAmendFan, on 06/16/2009, -0/+8Lemur. Iran has long been a country considered ripe for a revolution.Thanks to the Iran-Iraq War,the population is one of the youngest per capita in the region and is more sophisticated and "westernized" relative to it's neighbors.This is why many analysts have long suspected that Iran is ripe for revolution,and this election fiasco may be just the tipping point that was needed to set it off...
- elfprince13, on 06/16/2009, -7/+15http://demosthenes.blogspot.com/
Tehran is revolting and in shambles. - jaschen, on 06/16/2009, -5/+13I'm not going to lie. I'm excited to be actually witnessing a possible revolution.
- nogami, on 06/16/2009, -0/+8Seems to me like the population should go on a general strike. Nobody works, nobody transports goods or performs services.
I don't know of a single government that could survive that sort of thing for long. They can give people the beat-down on the street, but they can't make them work. - fury420, on 06/16/2009, -0/+8Monkeyspanky, I'm unsure if you are aware, but the official title of Ali Khamenei is in fact the "Supreme Leader" of Iran.
President Obama should be referred to as President Obama, just like one would expect Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei to be referred to by his title. I'm unsure exactly you'd prefer we call Mr. Khamenei, other than perhaps Ayatollah/Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei which seems far less precise, and according to wikipedia is contested (hes not actually an Ayatollah in the religious sense) - TimtheTaxMan, on 06/16/2009, -1/+9@warsongs7
No Victim=No Crime
No one has the right to push their morals on others. - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -0/+7What the ***** are you talking about?!! Apparently your wiki search of Iran's history has failed miserably. In Iran Prime Minister (later consolidated with President's role) does not have any authority over Military AT ALL. NOTHING. NILL. He can't order a single soldier to guard his own home or cancel a traffic ticket.
Any security related matter is strictly and only under Supreme Leader's supervision.
YOUR BIGGEST FAIL: You are also mistaking IRAN with IRAQ. Iran never had any war with Kuwait. That was Iraq.
The killings of 1988 happened but he was not involved. Read the tribunal reports, read Amnesty International's report. Not a single one mentions Mousavi's name.
Stop spreading lies on issues of other countries that you have no idea about. - Gemfinder, on 06/16/2009, -1/+8I kind of doubt it. I'm old enough to remember the first Iranian Revolution. I went to school with some kids whose families fled the Shah. They were just as scared of the Ayatollahs.
I think what we're seeing here is "As ye sow, so shall ye reap." Blood of patriots and tyrants, indeed.
I do agree that if we want peaceful discourse with Iran, Ahmedinejad and his histrionics have to be out of the picture. Obama doesn't have to take a position: the peoples of Iran and the rest of the world are doing it just fine on their own. - Midtowner, on 06/16/2009, -4/+11Who cares? The elected President is just a figurehead. Unless someone in Iran (hint: Mousavi is loyal to the Ayatollah) wants to actually go after the Supreme Leader and the Mullahs, any change would be purely illusory.
- ridd1e, on 06/16/2009, -0/+6People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
- PFrocker, on 06/16/2009, -0/+5"Usually we do this behind a green screen, but my boss is an *****."
-Jason Jones - kingmanic, on 06/16/2009, -1/+6Mousavi used to be a hardliner like Ahmadinejad but switched over to be a reformist voice. You don't have to be Ghandi to be better than Ahmadinejad.
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -1/+6Be cool if they were not..
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -3/+8Obama wouldn't allow that! /s
- Gemfinder, on 06/16/2009, -3/+8Who said anything about Mousavi?
I'm bucking for the Ayatollahs' heads on pikes. - Redline500, on 06/16/2009, -0/+5And now you see the true reason for the Second Amendment.
- Xihix, on 06/16/2009, -0/+4Koobeedeh, please!
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