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- TheRingmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+145"A Clockwork Orange" comes to mind.
- captinherb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+87FTA "Ihrcke told police that killing "the bum" reminded him of playing a violent video game, a police report shows."
You've got to be ***** kidding me. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+73Teens can kill a homeless guy and nobody would care. A homeless guy kills a teen and he gets death row. Sad but true.
- phatalbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+71This kind of violence has nothing to do with video games. It happens in societies where people can be marginalized and dehumanized. The homeless have already been cast out by all of us onto the streets like animals, so just like animals can be killed for sport the homeless can as well. It's no wonder that teens will then do it, they've been brought up that way.
We're taught to ignore, to brush past panhandlers on the street. Parents will grab their children's hands and pull them away from that dirty, dangerous, disease ridden "thing." That's why these attacks are carried out by middle class teens, they've never seen a homeless person as a human. And when something ceases to be human to us, it becomes okay to kill it.
The reason these teens are killing homeless for sport is the same reason the janjaweed can kill in Darfur, the same reason that apartheid existed, even the same reason why here in the US we pay closer attention to the American death toll in Iraq than the total death toll. - Sagags, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69I don't know how they could kill someone and just go and get something to eat without feeling remorse.
And if killing bums doesn't seem very cool, if someone told me they killed a bum I don't know what I would do but that last thing I would want to do is talk or come in contact with that person.
Also notice how they bring up video games? The cant just accept the responsibility so they have to blame it on something - quakerorts, on 10/12/2007, -11/+71I agree they're sick but let's not lower ourselves to their level. They went to jail for their crime. Perhaps 15 years wasn't long enough, but we have to leave that those involved in this case.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -2/+56eventually some teens are going to run across a homeless person that will defend themselves and you will find a beaten or dead teen in a dumpster or alley, sad but true...
- bigd063, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56"There was nothing I hated more than to see a filthy old drunkie, a-howling away at the filthy songs of his fathers and going blurp blurp in between as if it were a filthy old orchestra in his stinking rotten guts. I could never stand to see anyone like that, especially when they were old like this one was."
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -40/+89Uh oh. You mentioned God. Even though you agree with everyone else you still mentioned God so you get dugg down. Ain't you ever heard of seperation of church and digg? Christians aren't allowed to express their opinion without getting buried by religion haters.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -2/+51a lot of honest working people are just one or two paychecks away from being homeless, unless you are rich all it takes is a few weeks to a month of being without a job to end up homeless...
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/12/2007, -4/+52;_;
That is so sad.
:(
Rest in Peace Rex Baum. - MasterFunk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+50I don't see how that is really all THAT sad? They would be defending them selves! I mean if someone came in your house with a bat and lets say you had a gun, would you not use the gun for fear that it would kill them? Also on another note, many homeless people are mentally unstable, so if these dumb, no, evil kids want to play with fire, then damn it their piss poor parents better be ready for their kid to be in a dumpster, raped or what ever.
But what I would find sad is if the homeless person is able to defend himself, with a goal of just scaring the kids away, then the kids calls the police and tells them that he was trying to rob him. That pisses me off more because we would not even hear about that type of thing, and who knows how many times that has happened! - bazuden, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36@jmoh
They probably were doing drugs considering the first line of the article:
"MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- All Nathan Moore says he wanted to do was smoke pot and get drunk with his friends."
And you probably didn't read the article. - Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38"Ihrcke told police that killing "the bum" reminded him of playing a violent video game, a police report shows."
It's okay, guys, it's all the video game's fault, right?
*predicts that a Jack Thompson article will be on the frontpage tomorrow* - TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33"eventually some teens are going to run across a homeless person that will defend themselves and you will find a beaten or dead teen in a dumpster or alley, sad but true..."
Good. Who gangs up on homeless people anyway? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33I'm waiting for undercover cops to pose as homeless guys and catch them in the act. Get Chris Hansen to host it, slap it on MSNBC and call it "To catch a douchebag" and you've got a hit..
- NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31"Moore recently turned 18 at Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin, where he is serving a 15 year sentence."
If that were a rich white girl you know he'd get life. - Andrico4, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Everyday I am more embarassed to live in Wisconsin.
- SadPanda, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32From Penny Arcade (sorry for the long post)
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You might have seen this story on CNN about the teens that murdered a homeless guy and then equated it to the sort of thrill one might get from a “violent video game”. There will be plenty of articles focusing on these kids and their crime. I’d like to take a second and talk about the parents of these teenagers instead. It is the job of a parent to teach their children certain rules. Obviously the rules themselves and the emphasis each family places on them will vary, but there are certain universal constants that these parents obviously failed to pass on.
Things the parents of these kids failed to teach them(in order of their severity):
1. Don’t drink until you’re 21.
Now this is a tough one. The 15 year old boys have admitted they were sharing beers with the homeless man. This is a difficult rule to enforce with many kids and that’s why I’ve listed first.
2. Don’t do drugs.
In addition to their beers these lads told investigators they had just finished rolling some phat doobie blunts, or whatever it is they do these days. This is an important one but also very difficult to enforce. I’d say it’s a notch above drinking but we’re still dealing with pretty common teenager issues.
3. Don’t murder people.
Ah here’s a big one. I wonder, did the parents simply avoid the “don’t murder people” talk the way other parents might avoid the “sex” talk? Maybe one day as the father was running off to work the mother called behind him,” Don’t forget, you promised to talk to Chris about not murdering people today!” The husband already half way out the door would holler back “Yeah yeah, I’ll do it when I get home tonight.”
4. Don’t take ***** out of your butt and rub it on the hobo you just killed.
To me this seems like the easiest lesson of all. My son is only two and already he’s coming to understand that “poops” belong in the potty. How did this kid get to the age of fifteen years old without learning this? Here’s how easy this one is:
Hey son, come here real quick.
Yeah Dad?
Don’t take ***** out of your butt.
Sure thing Dad.
Done! How hard was that? What kind of crazy ***** takes poop from his butt and rubs it on someone? I’ll tell you right now I’ve never seen that in Grand Theft Auto. These kids were twelve kinds of nuts and that’s a fact. Their parents either made them nuts or weren’t paying attention while they went nuts on their own. I don’t know which scenario is worse. - LACHRYMIST, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30Great, another Jack Thompson wet dream....
- Reziarfg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24"Ihrcke told police that killing "the bum" reminded him of playing a violent video game, a police report shows."
Great, let's feed the Jack Thompsons. - xrisnothing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24:'(
The aliens will never land, at least not in my time. - magic6435, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25@sagags
"if someone told me they killed a bum I don't know what I would do but that last thing I would want to do is talk or come in contact with that person."
Ah, i would expect you to run to the police station and report them. What the ***** to you mean you wouldn't know what to do, because it was a bum it now becomes something you need to think about? WHAT THE ***** IS WRONG WITH YOU. - gumby05, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29What if God was living on earth disguised as that homeless man?
- mcire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18What the hell? That was a human life, you *****!
- newevilmind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Eventually teens that get away with beating/killing bums will move on to randomly attacking non-bums.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Obviously, it was "Destroy All Humans." The homeless guys with the signs are worth 50 DNA points.
- Smeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Seriously, there are some really smart homeless people out there who had a mental breakdown or have another medical condition which keeps them from keeping a steady job. They dont all do drugs...
- goldfenix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14You know what I'm gonna do about it?
Someday I'm going to do something really wonderful for the world. Cure cancer, stop world hunger, end aids.
And when they ask me how it feels to have done such a wonderful thing, I'm gonna say, "It reminded me of playing a video game."
Let Jack Thompson think that one over for a while. - XISUPERMANIX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16These days kids are so bored and all hopped up on red bull (yuck) they need something to do. That is why my kid will be a stoner, they are too lazy to do anything and they are pretty chill.
- dielawn, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20yeah, its all the rage now with us, hell sometimes ill even ill their dog!
WTF is with this article? "on the rise"?? a couple sick ***** kill a hobo, so now "teen sport killing" is on the rise? give me a ***** break. - AnteChronos, on 10/12/2007, -22/+34@noamchomskeet
"You should never hurt or torment the innocent (kids), the poor, and the orphaned, it is God's command."
So hurting and tormenting the non-innocent, the rich, and those with parents is just fine by The Lord Your God? All joking aside, if you need a deity to tell you that hurting others is wrong, then you have a few screws loose. - optikalblitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12simply said..the people involved in this (falling under the same umbrella as those who brought us Bum Fights) are completely pathetic.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14In other news, teen killings by responsible adults on the rise. No charges will be laid.
- uberkling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13This is the single most disgusting and inhuman thing I've read that I can remember. I actually shed a tear when I watched that video, and captions like "Watch two teenagers beat a cowering homeless man with bats" are highly inappropriate.
This isn't about bad parenting, violent video games or anything else. It's about groups of underage sociopaths beating senseless a defenseless homeless person.
Sorry people, but not ALL life is sacred. Anyone who gets their rocks off from inflicting random violence to the point of unintended murder needs to be destroyed like the dogs they are. Period. - DaysInTheDark, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14why dugg down? the story about a guy who was getting raped in prison for duis was on the front page a few days ago and a majority of the comments said he deserved to get raped.
i guess killing a homeless man is better than a dui. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12An article isnt proof that people care. If a homeless guy kills a teen it would be somewhere between Anna Nicole Smith big and Astronaut Diaper Killer big.
- raindogmx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@phatalbert, you're awesome. ultradugg.
i'd like to add that we should get rid of that stupid selfish notion that human is better. even if they've been thaught by society that the homeless are not human, they should respect all forms of life. killing for fun is a serious derangement of our species (which is what leads to violent videogames, and not the other way around. i'm guilty of enjoying some of them myself) - skyfire1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9He's trying to use a scapegoat apparently. I hope this doesn't get him less time.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+920 divided by total. You cant just compare a few thousand homeless to several million "homed".
- storm8956, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Fahrenheit 451, anybody? If people don't recall, in Bradbury's 1953 book, teenagers drove around in cars and ran over homeless people and aimless wanderers for fun. Another one of Bradbury's prophesies being fulfilled...
- nukethewhales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I know its cliché but this the parents' fault before videogames, drugs and alcohol. I think the one thing that my parents instilled in me is "Don't be an *****." And to this day before I do anything (and unfortunately sometimes after) I think "Does this action make me an *****?". And I try to not be an *****.
- silverbolt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7NegativeFx: Too bad you can't see how many people blocked you.
- MillionsLivio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8My exactly thoughts, these kids are an insult to reason and rationality. Honesty, "Ihrcke smeared his own feces on Baum's face before cutting him with a knife "to see if he was alive," Moore said.” this is a joke that someone would even attempt to make such a ***** excuse.
The thing I hate about these kids the most, is they perform the act, yet when they get caught they are scared *****. They make up any and every horrid excuse they can think of to try and get out of it. They lack logic, reason, intelligence, and more so the ability to think about their actions. Apparently they were never taught "cause and effect" in their science classes? Oh that's right, we intelligent people are too busy trying to keep ***** such as "the earth is 12,000 years old" out of our science classes to focus on that.
Sadly the common teenager isn't much different from this disgrace of a human being; it sickens me that I myself am one. Because of kids like this, I get no respect and have to go to unrealistically long strides to prove otherwise. But then again, that just shows how close minded and naïve we as humans are doesn’t it? - LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"Ihrcke smeared his own feces on Baum's face before cutting him with a knife "to see if he was alive," Moore said."
umm, wtf? A simple tap would have made them realize he was dead.
I guess i will no longer bum it out to save a few bucks. The money being spent to stay behind a door seems very worth it. - Kii666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Over here, some stupid ass kids got busted for trying to burn down a small encampment of homeless people. I think one of the kids got a few years in prison, the others got a slap on the wrist. During the sentencing, one of the ***** asked the judge, "Can I go to graduation?" The gall!
- floridiot2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Sorry noamchomskeet, but Karmatic Retribution does not exist. No one ever gets what they deserve, be it good or bad.
- Barnolde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What the hell is wrong with these kids?! Someone should smear ***** on these little bastards.
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Don't blame it on video games. Blame it on the people dehumanizing the homeless. This reminds me of Germans under Nazi dehumanizing the Jews.
- CheapDigWannbe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well I'm a 15 old, what do I know... I'm sorry. It was a primeval instinct... It was funny... and then we just all beat him to death... oh and by the way we were drunk... it was just a game that went wrong... oh yeah it was a game... Like a video game... it's not me, it's the society, the media, game companies. And mother nature. The primeval instinct triggered by violent video games and overemphasized by alcohol. I'm 15, and my mom will sue the game developers, and the people who bought us alcohol... Oh yeah so it was that bums fault that he died. He bought us beer.
That is how this will probably turn up in the court. And the judge might buy this *****. And I'm sick of even imagining that this might happen, and the teenage ***** will get away for being stupid. -
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