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- inactive, on 07/04/2009, -0/+26They didnt slip away. They just hid away their weapons and went home.
- inactive, on 07/04/2009, -6/+30The Taliban way of war: kill women and children, run like hell when the Marines show up to kick their ass into oblivion.
- pathouston22, on 07/04/2009, -2/+18And pay kids to blow themselves up.
- LBobRife, on 07/04/2009, -2/+15"In the offensive in the south, known as Operation Khanjar, or "Strike of the Sword," Marine commanders say their forces are working to push Taliban fighters out of individual villages, build new bases there, and then begin small-scale reconstruction projects designed to win local support. They said the effort will continue indefinitely."
That is good news to hear. They are finally trying to do the right thing in Afghanistan, at least in part. - twiztidsinz, on 07/04/2009, -0/+10Pull your head out of your ass, stop bitching about Obama for 5 minutes and watch the ***** news, idiot.
***** man... even Fox "News" covered the combat troop withdrawal from populated areas this week. - twiztidsinz, on 07/04/2009, -0/+10If I'm not mistaken.. the 'illegal war' people talk of was Iraq, not Afghanistan.
- SarcasticPirate, on 07/04/2009, -1/+9http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ40/html/P ...
Sorry TypicalDiggeral, operations in Afghanistan are legal (joint congressional resolution (only one "nay" vote total), United Nations sanctioned - we even got no pushback from our NATO allies, many of whom are still fighting the good fight).
Care to enlighten me as to how you think an international response to the largest terrorist attack in world history is illegal? - twiztidsinz, on 07/04/2009, -1/+9By "his" I'm assuming you're referring to Bush.....
Since you know, Bush is the one who went to Afghanistan before "changing his mind" about where the terrorists are and telling us Iraq had WMDs and getting people like YOU to forget about Afghanistan. - kyledehovitz, on 07/04/2009, -1/+9Oorah = USMC
Hooah = US Army
You're kinda in the middle there. - inactive, on 07/04/2009, -3/+9I heard that the soldier that was apparently abducted left his base in very strange circumstances. Apparently he didn't bring his weapon or any gear, and left in the middle of the night without telling anybody.
It really sounds like he defected or something, but I guess we'll find out. - Chicagoland, on 07/04/2009, -0/+6Wouldn't be the first time a soldier defected to join Afghan rebels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBurHwU9uak - inactive, on 07/04/2009, -1/+6No one can beat the marines. Those are some tough SOB's.
- sulthernao, on 07/04/2009, -0/+5It's part of the plan, or at least that's what I'm hearing. That we are going to work with farmers to plant other crops instead.
- bugwayji, on 07/04/2009, -4/+8 Echo's of Vietnam, to bad no one learned from that war.
- FuZi0nDET, on 07/04/2009, -0/+4They knew that this was going to happen. The whole operation is designed to get them to leave and keep them from coming back. The commander they quote in the article even said the operation isn't about killing the Taliban. The difference is that the Taliban have ran unchecked these parts for years. The coalition had been to weak to mount an offensive that wouldn't leave them vulnerable in other areas of Afghanistan. With the redeployment of troops from Iraq to Afghanistan has enabled the coalition to mount this offensive. My guess is that this presence will remain in the area for some time to come in order to root out the Taliban that are still in the villages.
From what I've read the Taliban by various harassment techniques. There is usually a Taliban guy that will observe who is co-operating with coalition forces or is participating in some sort of coalition backed program. They'll then wait till that presence has left and other Taliban come in and threaten or kill these people. The ability to have a presence there should help get rid of these guys. - inactive, on 07/04/2009, -1/+5or he was on a booty call
- Kapitaine, on 07/04/2009, -2/+6In too deep now. It could be argued that in doing so...whoever may be wrong or right will lead to a return of the Taliban and of course the expected revenge on the people for "working with the enemy".
You know this is what would happen. We all do. I'm not pro war at all. but completely pulling out would create a power vacuum that would lead to even more loss of life, possibly a civil war. Regardless of who started what, we're here now. - twiztidsinz, on 07/04/2009, -0/+3@lashepherd: What an insightful and well thought out come back.
Enjoy your baseless personal attacks. - TheDougem, on 07/06/2009, -0/+3If we intervened in Honduras it would rightly be seen as the US meddling in the domestic affairs of a sovereign nation - with the nation so split and the government of Honduras still functioning, it would be best for us to stand aside as we have been and let things run their course. The government 'coup' is half justifiable because the indicators that the president would've overthrown the democratic aspects of his government and turned to populism much like Hugo Chavez did were very strong. Yes, -we- trained and housed those troops but that doesn't change the fact that the Supreme Court of Honduras -ordered- the military to depose the President. Keeping the air force soldiers from leaving the base would've been a direct challenge to the legitmacy of Honduras' government - and would've simply delayed the action the military took.
You're talking about Iran - a country we have a vested interest in countermanding because of their stance against us. You can't deny that other large and small nations also fund black ops forces- and while entirely eliminating our espionage programs would give us the 'moral highground' it would also be naive and foolish. It is reasonable for us to have elements in place to assist the Iranian people if they -do- rise up to overthrow their government. I'm not saying it's moral, or the exact 'right thing' to do, but it is necessary.
Earlier you implied that we were funding terrorist groups in several countries, in commenting on an article discussing troop actions in Afghanistan. Please clarify for me - are you referencing only Iran, or other nations? And what are your opinions regarding the black ops of Russia, Iran, and Syria?
Not dugg down, because you're being reasonable! =D - inactive, on 07/04/2009, -1/+4We ought to just come home.
- inactive, on 07/04/2009, -0/+3The same method worked in Iraq so you can't blame them for adopting these tactics. It may be cowardly but it's working for them. So until the US comes up with a way to successfully combat these tactics, they'll continue to successfully use them.
- TheDougem, on 07/04/2009, -0/+3I hope they find the guy soon though. Heaven forbid they release a video with the poor guy being tortured or worse - that'd be the wet dream of most of these insurgent dirt bags.
I heard he was with 3 Afghanies, who also vanished - suspicious, or innocents swept up in the whole mess? - earthforce1, on 07/04/2009, -1/+4I would rather they tried to make a stand and get themselves killed instead of scurrying away and bullying the civilian population into submission when the marines pack up and go.
- seanthebond, on 07/04/2009, -1/+4What?
- Wubbawucky, on 07/04/2009, -0/+2except for Rangers
- TheDougem, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2I missed your reply there - knock on me, I'm usually better about keeping an eye on my threads.
You believe that they do - and again, it doesn't make much comprehend-able sense to me that the US would fund terrorists in it's allies and nations it's occupying. Show me the evidence.
"There is a pattern we see, the US has a country they want to destabilise and moves insurgents to a neighbouring country so they can launch attacks, we've seen it numerous times before."
When? And even if we did this on a widespread scale, I hardly believe we would be the worst perpetrators of such behavior. - BotchaMcCoola, on 07/04/2009, -1/+3The MIC learned a lot. You can get the US public so frightened of backward third world countries that they will give over trillions of their prosperity.
- TheDougem, on 07/05/2009, -0/+2Where's your evidence Sigals? and while we may fund some cells - it would make no sense for us to fund the ones were directly combating. Iran, Syria, and other Middle Eastern Agitators have clear incentive - as does Russia.
You don't know what you're talking about with Honduras. The Supreme Court of that country ordered the military to depose the president, and the goverment (save the president) have been mostly following the constitution. Honduras threw out their president because they felt the sanctity of their government was threatened by the president and his ties to Venezuela - hardly because Obama asked them too. - seanthebond, on 07/04/2009, -0/+2The soil if Afghanistan is tough though.
One of the few things, besides poppies which can grow in the country are pomegranates. - TheDougem, on 07/04/2009, -1/+3That's good - and I hope they get other crops growing as soon as possible. The profits from selling the poppies have been financing the Taliban for too long.
- hoodedrobin, on 07/04/2009, -1/+3Do you know why it sounds different?
Its actually the same word, just different dialects. - TheDougem, on 07/04/2009, -0/+2Vietnam was a political loss. The Tet Offensive, which was a spectacular tactical failure for the north, spooked the press and sealed the deal for them.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/04/2009, -0/+2We the taxpayers/China borrowers are the ones who are losing. You want to play guns with third world countries do it at your own expense.
- WeMadeAmistake, on 07/24/2009, -0/+1Sounds like you are indignant because we Americans have a better health care system......at least for the time being until President Narcissist and the Pelosi Politboro force the British system on us. That way, we'll have plenty of body bags here in the states........mostly the elderly and those who have cancer or heart problems.
- TheDougem, on 07/04/2009, -1/+2Well said Kapitaine - and don't forget pulling out of Afghanistan would further damage our credibility and erode any confidence people may have had in our military. In the future, if we ever need to work with locals again, why should they cooperate when precedence suggests we'll just leave as soon as the going gets tough? Signs of weakness also breed contempt - and would hand the Taliban an enormous propaganda victory.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/05/2009, -0/+1Don't play stupid. None of the ME countries we are attacking/occupying have any respectable military assets. You waste the country's resources on foolishness or else you are profiting from it through the military and war industry.
- SarcasticPirate, on 07/04/2009, -0/+1@TheGuruStud
A domestic terrorist attack is still a terrorist attack. No difference, actually.
When Timmy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma Federal building, that was a domestic terrorist attack. When al-Qaeda use passenger jetliners to attack the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, it's still an act of terrorism.
Also, this post probably got picked up on every FBI/NSA word filter known to man. *****. - bugwayji, on 07/04/2009, -1/+2 They all went to Somalia
- computershack, on 07/04/2009, -2/+3Nice to see the Americans finally joining us Brits where all the action is instead of hiding 100's of miles away where its nice and safe.
OTOH, dismayed to see that the US Forces Commander is an arrogant wanker who refused to listen to any advice from the British Command even though we've been fighting there for years. Expect a lot of bodybags as a result. Unlike the British Army, the US Forces aren't noted for their skill in guerilla warfare, instead preferring to go en-masse which won't really achieve much as they'll just piss off until you leave then return and pop whoever is left about. - ISellSigals, on 07/05/2009, -0/+1I didn't say Obama ordered them to, I was saying it was ludicrous to suggest that they didn't know what was going on there and most likely could have stopped it with a few phone calls. Also you will notice that it was the Air Force that carried out the coup and they were housed on the US base and trained by US soldiers.
The white house admitted to funding insurgents in Iran just a few years ago and also just before the election there were a few bombings attributed to a "terrorist" group funded by the US.
Check this telegraph article (one of many): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/ ...
"His claims were backed by Fred Burton, a former US state department counter-terrorism agent, who said: "The latest attacks inside Iran fall in line with US efforts to supply and train Iran's ethnic minorities to destabilise the Iranian regime." - seanthebond, on 07/05/2009, -0/+1What?
- FuZi0nDET, on 07/04/2009, -1/+2God bless the Marines for showing up and kicking what ever ass they can find to kick when they get there. The Tabliban are a bunch of cowards.
- dila813, on 07/04/2009, -2/+3Classic Gorilla Tactic, Fade from Strength and Attack Weakness.
Only way to win against this tactic is to stay an occupy this area and prepare for the counter strikes that are designed to inflict losses and not hold territory.
If the military pulls back, you would have to say they lost this battle. - TheDougem, on 07/04/2009, -1/+2If we're supposedly so bad about it what about Iran? Syria? Saudi Arabia? China? Russia?
- cygnus2112, on 07/04/2009, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oorah_(Marines)
Ooh-rah (also spelled Urah or Hoo-rah) is a spirited cry common to United States Marines since the mid-20th century. It is comparable to the Hooah cry used in the Army or Hooyah by the Navy SEALs. It is most commonly used to respond to a verbal greeting or as an expression of enthusiasm. - BotchaMcCoola, on 07/07/2009, -0/+1The military needs a fine mind like this one. Keep our war stock growing.
- yaosio, on 07/04/2009, -2/+3Thanks man, I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. I mean, you're just so...wait a second, "Gorilla"? Get out.
- inactive, on 07/04/2009, -3/+4Weak first argument. Innocent people die every day.
- elipabst, on 07/04/2009, -1/+2So what if he can't spell, at least he has his fax correct.
- WeMadeAmistake, on 07/24/2009, -0/+1Oh, thank you General Jane Fonda for your intellectual military assessment. 'The best way to end a war is to surrender.'
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