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- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -3/+78the point of all these "security" measures isn't to keep us safe, it's to keep us fearful and docile.
- mikesbaker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+70The only thing the TSA is good at is making sure that your are thirsty when you get on board an airplane.
- clark24, on 10/10/2007, -0/+35They must've been too busy harassing me because I forgot to place my cell phone in the tupperware container.
- twrife, on 10/10/2007, -0/+31Did he have a large hat on with a monkey underneath?
This guy has to be a pro... - CMaff24, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27Lets sneak an airplane into TSA, give em a little taste of their own medicine.
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22TSA - Terrorists Search Americans
- mobilexile, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Anyone who travels frequently knows our skies are far from safe despite the TSA's efforts and expenditures. In all honesty or 'security' appears to be a joke.
Should any blowhards from the TSA, NSA, FBI, CIA or BFD come reading this post, I have a suggestion for you: Put longer tables at security screening points. Currently they're a ***** joke. How many more trillions do we need to give you people before you catch on to that one little item?
Also, you may want to reconsider the barrels of banned liquids that welcome travelers upon entering the screening area. HINT: Evil doers could / may just put their evil juices into those barrels and *poof* hundreds of cattle waiting in line are gone.
Think about it, folks. - dawhim, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18TSA = Thousands Stand Around. They really live up to that.
- bjtitus, on 10/10/2007, -9/+25I recently "smuggled" a pocket knife on board an airplane. The TSA has done virtually nothing to beef up security. Any decent terrorist could easily get past security without any problem.
- halavais, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16I walked past screening in Albany at one point. I wasn't trying too, I just got a little confused and no one stopped me. When I realized that I had done it, I thought about exiting and then going through security, but then realized "gee, I'm not a terrorist" and just got on the plane.
I am a fan of security, but that isn't what TSA is doing. Hardened cockpit doors: a good idea before and after 9/11. No liquids on flights: idiocy. - richgustavson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14@ jmpeagle: Can you link your souces? I am honestly not trying to be a dick, I really would like to see if that's true, because I highly doubt it.
- nunyabisnas, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13anybody remember the 70s? airline terror in its prime? problem solved pretty easily with an air marshal on each plane. think anyone could take a plane with box cutters when there is at least on cat on the plane with a glock? the airlines got too cheap to keep that kind of security on all flights. now we pay an extra $11 per take-off and landing to have the "appearance" of security. that's the thing that really irks me. if you're gonna do security then do it right. don't take away the sewing scissors i use to cut my toddler's straws because they're a "threat." honestly, if you stood up on a flight with some sewing scissors and told me you were gonna take the plane i can guarantee you something is gonna get dislocated or broken =-)
did we need to change our security after 9/11? sure. but this was never the right idea. put the air marshals back on the planes. enhance cockpit security. update the xray machines we already had at the airport. too easy.
it never had to come to this. it was a knee jerk reaction that has gotten out of hand and we only have ourselves to blame for letting it happen. you can't stop terrorism. it is a war you can't win. as long as there are people willing to kill themselves or others for a cause they'll find a way... if they can't get on a plane to blow it up it is too easy to drive right up to the terminal, or the mall, or anywhere else that people congregate. - jmpeagle, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15pocket knives are allowed on planes as long as the blade is under 4 inches since the doors to the cockpits are now secured, you can no longer hijack a plane with a knife because you can't break down the door
your even allowed to check guns as long as they are unloaded and go into the luggae compartments and are not carry ons - miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10You can bring a small knife--but not water? How mad is THAT?
A knife may not do damage to a cockpit door, but four inches inside someone's neck could. Why not worry about passengers?Afterall, terrorists just kill indiscriminately and any number is considered a success. - faithhealer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10"irregardless"? Seriously?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I honestly think that they are just trying to boost business for the vendors between security and your gate. Their sales volume of drinks has most likely skyrocketed.
- stevetro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Another good example. If a terrorist really wanted to do harm with/in an airplane, they could. TSA and the idiotic security measures (my shoes? come on) seem to be a politically inspired "look at how your elected official is ensuring your safety" kind of thing. Effective? Not really. But your politicians can say, "We're doing all we can."
- Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Meh... it's much like anti-piracy that way.
It will inconvenience anyone who's not planning on doing anything.
The ones who actually want to do some nasty stuff aren't likely to be stopped by these pointless measures. - Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Well, it doesn't matter really. The whole "liquid explosive" scare is bunk anyway. You might succeed in singing a few eyebrows, but that's about it.
- miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7We'll be watching you on youtube soon, getting detained and roughed up for your "smirking".
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7You can also bring tools that are 7 inches or less. Also nail polish remover, which I may add is extrodinarily flammable, and even three ounces can cause damage.
This is right from the TSA's site.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#0 - alphex, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Ding Ding! give this man a cookie. He's on the money.
- kurtwinter, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Ahh... a two-fer. Thanks TSA for hiring people that McDonald's doesn't want. I worked in EWR for about a month on an IT project for a large airline, in 2003. I have to tell you: their security sucks. I was able to walk into secure areas, such as ticketing offices, and below the terminal into the crew areas without any special ID without being challenged. Yet the incompetent high school drop outs, TSA workers, still enjoyed their power trip. Who the ***** hired these lowlifes? At lunch, they all sat together and talked about who was disrespecting who, and ***** like that. They seriously aren't qualified to flip burgers. They enjoy abusing their power and abusing their customers. They should all be fired. We'd be better off without them for all the good they do. I love it when they gleefully remove a 4 yo because his name is on a ***** terrorist watch list, or how happy they are to trample all over our constitution. They are collaborators.
- Yoshi39, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Two things
A) bullets don't set of metal detectors so a two man team could potentially hijack a plane using a gun if what you say is true
B)To get past a "secured" cockpit door all the terrorists would have to do would be to start torturing/killing passengers until the pilots opened the door - spxiii, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I had to be "screened" yesterday. I was wearing a shirt that is something of a silk screen of a snub nosed pistol with a toothbrush protruding from the barrel. It's just a weird, funny design. Well, it is too much for some to handle maturely, so I had to listen to TSA tell me about four or five times that my shirt probably set off the detector.
After excessive waving of a magic wand, which beeped primarily by my balls thanks to their being covered by pants with a zipper, we determined that it was the passport in my pocket that was setting off the sensor. I assured TSA that passports contain "sensitive electronics", but he would have none of it and continued to inspect my balls. My passport was confiscated for further inspection due to its abnormal behavior. - miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Very smart. A terrorist doesn't need to hi-jack a plane. (been there-done that). They only need to cause death. Anywhere, anyhow.
- adamruth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4My kid (7 y.o.) smuggled 3 pocket knives and 2 leathermans onto an international flight, we found out after we arrived. The TSA was too distracted emptying out the last 2 ounces of juice from my 3 year old's bottle and confiscating his play-doh.
I felt so much safer. - byrdgang, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Well, we don't know if he made it or a flight or not. The government doesn't know either.
- Vohu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5TSA's prohibited item list expressly states knives (except for plastic or rounded butter knives) are PROHIBITED. I'm going to be polite and assume you weren't reading that list, instead of simply being functionally illiterate.
- Cykaos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Pocket knives do not count as tools. There is a separate section called "Sharp Objects" that talks about knives and scissors. Knives are not allowed and scissors are allowed only if the blades of the scissors are less than 4 inches long. This doesn't make pocket knife blades less than 4 inches long permitted. My grandpa left his pocketknife on his keychain just last week and they took it away. My grandma however got away with a pocketknife in her purse that they didn't see.
- wshs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Just doing their jobs. Ah, the age old scape goat. They were just doing their jobs, like the cops that killed Deacon Williams, or the cops that arrested the reporters at the behest of Giulliani, or the cops that choked 13 year old kids for skateboarding, or the cops that arrested a guy for riding his bike home from the airport. They were just doing their job, right? Why do their jobs negate honor, morals, and their responsibilities to both mankind and nature?
- daviddiaz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Quite honestly, i think that the hassle you go through at the airport, as bad as it seems, is not as bad as taking a boat to Europe and having to wait days to arrive at your destination.
The TSA, and basically every other branch of our federal government right now is malfunctioning, but unfortunately some of us HAVE to fly, and put up with them, no matter what. - halavais, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Well, I bet it has helped Amtrak a bit on the corridors where that makes sense. But for most travel in the US, there is simply no alternative, unless you are willing to double your travel time. Or for transcontinental, spend several days in transit.
- ZzFDKzZ, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Small metals like watches, jewelry and certain belts usually don't make the detectors go off. Not sure they made such a big deal out of it. What state are you in?
- noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Freaking idiots. DETECTORS DON'T WORK THAT WAY!
- nikkesen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2But apparently an empty bottle of hair treater is NOT permitted. Yep, you read it right, I said empty.
- ilaKilla07, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3"White said late Friday afternoon the TSA is no longer searching for the man"
If at first you don't succeed.. give up. American ambition ftw. - locojones, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Best post I've read all week. THank you.
- Iandefor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A friend of mine smuggled a pocketknife in her carry-on luggage on three international flights in a row. That's what I call security.
"pocket knives are allowed on planes as long as the blade is under 4 inches since the doors to the cockpits are now secured, you can no longer hijack a plane with a knife because you can't break down the door"
Obviously, the thought that passengers could knife each other did not occur to the people who wrote *that* policy. - Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sounds like the good old in-flight customs tick-the-boxes questionnaires:
"Are you planning on committing any of the following felonies in the US [list of crimes]?"
"Have your recently visited one of the following we-hate-you contries [list of countries]?"
and the final
"If you have answered yes to any of the above questions, please contact the US embassy before embarking."
...so, I'm supposed to be dumb enough not to lie on the answering sheet, and if I *am* that dumb, I need to contact the closest embassy before I get on the plane where I'm given the questionnaire... :D - nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5i don't think all cockpits are secured.
also, at least until 9-11, you were allowed to bring *parts* of guns onto planes CARRY-ON, just not fully assembled ones, and I suppose no bullets. How no two people ever just split up a gun and brought it on, put it back together on board, and hijacked a plane like that I don't know.... - locojones, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Osama bin Who???
- akira117, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was there that day, they didn't tell us anything really, just that they had a security breach.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Nah, those people are *****. In my eyes, they are the acting voice of this administration. They could go work somewhere else for all it matters.
I put all my stuff into a single bin, and this woman got all pissed off at me, "Is this yours?! YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER. Now split this up." in the snottiest ***** attitude possible. The one that says, "I've been dealing with people all day, I hate my job, I just wanna leave".
At that point I'm thinking, "...and who the ***** are you?" So I tell her, "Uh, then put a sign up. Don't get ***** with me because I'm putting my stuff in the bins like everyone else." I think I had my shoes in the same bin my laptop bag was in. God ***** forbid.
At that point she starts the whole, "Excuse me, sir, is there a problem?" Mainly because I used the word "*****", as if she's never heard it before, but also because I actually called her out on her *****.
So I say to her, "Yes, you. You get snotty with me because I put my stuff in ONE bin. You could've been nice, but you're being a total ass. It's really not a big deal. Unless there's a sign designating otherwise, deal with it. Now do your job and quit bothering me."
Didn't really say much. She huffed off as if I was somehow in the wrong because I called her out on her ***** where most people would kiss her ass, "Oh, sorry ma'am!!!"
In any case, the golden rule applies. If you don't wanna be treated like a bitch, don't act like one. She did.
If you don't like your job, quit. Don't take it out on people who don't deserve it. Especially those who aren't complacent like 99% of the population. - execute85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No knives at all are permitted any more. Not even a 1 inch blade on a mini leatherman tool. I bought the tool to take on a hiking trip to peru. US security never found it. But the little lady in Lima found it and explained that I couldn't carry it on the plane and gave me a receipt so I could pick it up at another time.
It sounds like you were reading the guidelines from way back in 2000 or something. - spxiii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It isn't a violation of rights because it is a person's choice to go through with it. It is, however, completely political and only serves to irritate people who just want to get from point A to point B. If a terrorist wants to get in, they're going to get in. This is how security of any sort fails to work. You can prevent casual efforts, but there is no way to stop an intelligent person with any certainty if they are committed to success.
If I have my mind made up to gain access to your computer at any cost, do you think you have any hope of keeping it from me? I you say "yes", then I'm already halfway there.
Physical security is no different. - tomi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I was at the Seattle airport this spring, for a school band trip. About 100 16-18 year olds. I'm pretty sure all of us were terrorist, TSA, really. I mean, compared to Canadian airports, your screening is asinine. Making me take off my belt is understandable, but my shoes and hoody?!
- dupswapdrop, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2If the TSA is there how do you just walk past screening?
Here's one that got em good I when through the detector with my watch on and it didn't go off, seems they can't detect Titanium? They wanted to take my watch but I asked to see the policy where it saids they can just take someones stuff if it's not a threat. Plus I asked for for a receipt for it so I could right it off as a loss on my taxes. They changed their minds and sent me on my way. - kd1s, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Back in May I had occasion to pickup a party at TF Green (PVD). The exit gate is right next to the TSA screening area.
I wrote many public comments about how that arrangement would allow someone to walk right into the terminal area without going through screen.
Now they've fixed it, you exit through ramps to the baggage claim area, the way it should have been designed in the first place.
But the whole TSA thing is a joke. After all, once you clear TSA there are a number of things one could do to sabotage a flight or the operations of the entire airport. I'll leave that to everyones imagination. - jhshukla, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1one incident made public. we don't know how many have already done it or how many the TSA know about.
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