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- ToddSchishler, on 11/11/2009, -2/+102Come on guys, in all fairness, the Leafs don't often find themselves in positions to be first at Anything.
- 029A, on 11/11/2009, -0/+49In the US it's Wall Street bankers skipping the line. In Canada it's hockey players. Sounds about right.
- samard2002, on 11/11/2009, -5/+53Before anyone starts in on the "this is what you get with socialized medicine" criticisms, I just want to point out that rich people skipping the line is actually capitalism at its finest.
- alanocu, on 11/11/2009, -3/+32Swine flu is bad, but just wait until we have to deal with swine rage virus.
- samard2002, on 11/11/2009, -1/+26From the first line of the caption "A girl braves a H1N1 influenza vaccination shot and a regular flu shot in Vancouver, British Columbia, Oct. 26, 2009."
Reading is fundamental. - SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/11/2009, -3/+25"Women, Children, and NHL players first!"
Lol, Canada. - alexwm20, on 11/11/2009, -0/+20The Maple Leafs should give shots to their fans so they don't get sick when they realize that they just paid like $300 for tickets and drank $17 beers while they watched a terrible team play like ***** every night.
- zang74, on 11/11/2009, -0/+15Fail for not looking up the difference between methyl mercury (in fish and factory runoff) and ethyl mercury (in thimerosal), their half-lives in the body and the effects.
- Solkre, on 11/11/2009, -3/+17Hockey is serious business!
- kleptomaniac, on 11/11/2009, -1/+11No, hence the outrage and investigations.
- cygnus2112, on 11/11/2009, -3/+13I'm not surprised by the cronyism in Ontario or Alberta. If a few shots get people pissed off, where's the outrage when $5 Billion was squandered to a government-favored contractor, eHealth?
But the more interesting story here is on the second page of the article, where a Toronto grocery store owner is being charged with kidnapping for making a citizen's arrest of a chronic shoplifter. - Waiting2awake, on 11/11/2009, -1/+11I would also put out however, in the interest of fairness, the people at St Andrews private school also jumped ahead of the special people.
- vodka357, on 11/11/2009, -0/+9This is a great idea. If a hockey war breaks out and all their players are sick Canada will be totally defenseless
- doctechnical, on 11/11/2009, -0/+9Keep banging the rocks together!
- eadnams, on 11/11/2009, -0/+8of course, that shortage was caused by a ton of people who didn't need it receiving it in the giant week long free-for-all. So who cares about a hockey team getting it too?
- doctechnical, on 11/11/2009, -8/+16So in the Canadian health care system everyone is equal, but some people are more equal than others. Got it.
- ylikone, on 11/11/2009, -1/+9paranoia running rampant
- HyperionHK, on 11/11/2009, -4/+12Apparently you're the stupid/ignorant one.
There is no credible link between Thimerosal and anything bad. - Slashered, on 11/11/2009, -1/+8I laughed
- budbud83, on 11/11/2009, -2/+9Ooo Canada...
- HyperionHK, on 11/11/2009, -1/+8Seriously? Your link is wrong
All the evidence that people use to support links between thimerosal and autism are out of date and have been disproven, but people like to spout them anyway.
The Institute of Medicine did an independent study in 2001 that found it could neither confirm nor reject the link between thimerosal and autism.
Then a followup study has since been done to take into account new data that concluded:
"Thus, based on this body of evidence, the committee concludes that the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."
Source: http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=030909237X
All you're doing is repeating false information and helping it spread. This doesn't do anything to protect anyone, and it actually hurts people by scaring them away from using vaccines, which helps the spread of disease. Even your statement of the IoM and their study concluding the link was biologically plausible (They also said they didn't find enough evidence to support the link, but also not enough to reject it), has since been refuted by the IoM itself - Wogger, on 11/11/2009, -0/+6The media in Canada is making a big deal out of the vaccine across the country in the last 2 weeks or so, so the country is trying to get the shot all at the same time.
That's why there's been cases of long lines in the past 2 weeks or so. - anarcurt, on 11/11/2009, -0/+6They play like old ladies, it's easy to see the confusion.
- hypografik, on 11/11/2009, -1/+7I don't know where you live in Canada but in Quebec, no private/public clinics have the vaccine. The only place you can receive it is by going to the established vaccination centers.
- darkphenox, on 11/11/2009, -0/+5Toronto fans do not care, thats why the are fans of the Leafs.
- crossmr, on 11/11/2009, -2/+7Actually no. When the Flame's got the vaccine the lines were still open to ANYONE who wanted to get in line. The Flames jumped the queue. They did not get the vaccine when it was not available to them. Honestly given a choice between giving a vaccine to an international athlete with a busy travel schedule and Joe Dorito who goes from his mother's basement to the 7-11 for a shift, EB Games and then repeat, I'm fine with the Flames getting the whopping 150 doses they got out of the hundreds of thousands that were given to the province.
- archiesteel, on 11/11/2009, -0/+4This isn't the "Canadian Health System" at work. This is an emergency effort that was badly planned by a bunch of bureaucrats. It reflects in no way on the fine work done by Canadian doctors and nurses, nor the highly-efficient nature of the public health insurance system.
Please take your anti-healthcare agenda and shove it up your ass. Thanks. - hoju7887, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3***** YOU MAN
*cries in corner wearing his leafs jersey and foil Stanley cup - jster89, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3High risk doesn't mean a high risk of catching H1N1 it means a high risk of developing serious complications due to the disease and requiring hospitalisation. So these NHL players may be at high risk of catching the virus but they're healthy young people and are not at high risk of complications compared to the chronically ill.
- fizman01, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3Here in Oz we got it pretty bad on the first outbreak (my Mum had it really bad and had us very worried) but we've been only slight affected by this latest outbreak (we are moving into our summer which helps).
- apetrie, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3If you don't see any rage over eHealth, you aren't paying attention.
Most of the charges have already been dropped against that guy, I highly doubt a judge will convict him of anything but we will see. Technically he broke the law, it had to go through the system.. - smartassCanuck, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3In Alberta (where Calgary and the flames are located) the health care system representative who was responsible for giving the vaccine to the Flames was promptly fired. It was never really made clear if the organization paid for the vaccine, but we've been lead to believe that they simply asked for it and were given it by the health region (public health organization.)
BTW this vaccine was administered prior to the HUGE lineups and worries about running out.
Personally I think these stories aren't really NEWS as much as sensationalism. - datagod, on 11/11/2009, -5/+8NHL players are incredibly healthy. Kids with cancer are not. NHL players should not be allowed to jump the queue.
- anarcurt, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3I may be wrong but hasn't this flu been harder on the teens and twenties crowd? From what I've heard the biggest threat is people with very healthy immune systems that go into overdrive with the virus and actually cause the damage. In all fairness I would think this would put the elderly to the end of the line (and rightfully so).
- trolley, on 11/11/2009, -1/+4You could argue they fall into the high-risk category. But why do they get the skip the line entirely while pregnant women and children are made to wait for hours? Your argument doesn't account for that little detail.
- darkphenox, on 11/11/2009, -2/+4No sickness gets passed around very quickly on hockey teams clearly you didn't play when you were young, it gets passed through accidental sharing of water bottles/ towels/ being close together after sweating for long periods of time, plus in combination with the amount of travel the western devision has to do they have a high rate spread if they get it.
- odiroot, on 11/11/2009, -3/+52. Double tap
- ginetteginette, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2the elderly are at the end of the line unless they have a chronic illness and are not over 65 years old.
- funkydude101, on 11/11/2009, -2/+4It's true. This is how zombie movies start...
Population en masse gets some sort of injection- injection goes bad a while later....Those who didn't get the injection lead the resistance.
I will be part of that resistance. - hypografik, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2I am 100% sure of that. I had an appointment with my own family doctor yesterday and asked the same question. I'm guessing it is regulated by the provinces and they all have different rules.
- methdwman3, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2No lines at my HMO for the high risk folks. I'll miss that :(
- Charlie1er, on 11/11/2009, -1/+3We need to be ready for a zombie invasion, as the vaccine is spreading across the population. If there's any chance of a zombie domination in 2009, there we are.
- Bloodboiler, on 11/11/2009, -0/+1That's nothing. Here in the world's most prosperous country (Finland) an ORCHESTRA skipped the waiting line.
While people who could die from swine flu get to wait in line for hours,
outside hospitals,
in sub zero C temperatures,
and come back to waiting later because the hospital runs out of vaccine. - GREEDOnvrFIRED, on 11/11/2009, -2/+3They travel and return home regularly and are often in close quarters with each other. So you give them the vaccine. Makes perfect sense to me, by protecting them you protect Canada. By the way you also protect the tens of millions of dollars that these players generate for their country.
- akhomestead, on 11/11/2009, -1/+2But that would an individual choice on whether they wanted to pay for it, instead of some government official getting to decide.
- rheaume, on 11/11/2009, -1/+2Im sure you wont mind if I dont give a ***** what some 19 year old kid thinks about paying taxes
- b4gk1lz, on 11/16/2009, -0/+1How did that work out for you? Yet another intelligent rebuttal form a gamer liberal.
- analogkid01, on 11/11/2009, -0/+1All right, all right...here is the revised list: women, children, red Indians, spacemen, NHL players, and sort of idealized versions of the complete Renaissance men first!!
- Arsi, on 11/11/2009, -0/+1officially the best thing ive read today
- macslut, on 11/11/2009, -1/+2"but 4 of my friends have had it and are totally fine. "
Yes, but how many of your friends have had it and weren't totally fine? That's what the entire world wants to know. You could save the CDC, WHO and a ton of other organizations around the world a lot of work by just turning over all of your extensive data you've compiled. -
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