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- SifuMoKung, on 06/25/2009, -3/+279Awww, how are we supposed to win the war on terror if we can't do whatever we want?
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………………………………………………………’’~-‘’_ , , ,,’,_/--‘ - NikoKun, on 06/25/2009, -1/+164Thank god... I'm glad to hear an update on this case. Too bad though, I wish the family was allowed to sue the individual school officials that allowed this to happen... Or otherwise cost them their jobs... People like that shouldn't be allowed to go unpunished.
The poor girl has to live with what happened, the rest of her life. For a teenager in school, being strip searched because of childish accusations of other students, and over-reactive staff, is just a horrible experience. - vipero00, on 06/25/2009, -14/+159This is why Republicans are losing credibility. I used to be one but when ***** like this happens and Thomas states "Preservation of order, discipline and safety in public schools is simply not the domain of the Constitution," I lose it. Isn't the Constitution supposed to protect us from unreasonable search and seizure. I would go further than holding them liable in a civil suite. I would say they should be prosecuted for abuse of power under color of authority. These zero tolerance Nazis should be strip searched and sent to jail to tune-up their sensitivity to this issue. Instead SCOTUS has shielded these pricks so that they can continue this abhorrent behavior.
- Dustin00, on 06/26/2009, -0/+125This zero tolerance crap is mind numbingly stupid.
- JoeParanoid, on 06/25/2009, -0/+113This tells you what a cretin Thomas is, that even Scalito abandoned him on this issue. The Constitution is what stands between us and the "order" that the elites and government would impose upon us.
- Konrad9, on 06/26/2009, -3/+105Holy crap the supreme court did something I agree with AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO!
- pintomp3, on 06/26/2009, -3/+88Clarence Thomas seems to make a point of being on the wrong side of every issue. If water's wetness was being decided by the court, he would be the dissenting opinion.
- chrismwood, on 06/25/2009, -2/+87It's always nice to see another example of a Supreme Court Justice looking completely irrelevant. Frankly, I'm surprised a case this patently ridiculous made it this far in the first place. The search was obviously illegal. Ibuprophen, for Christ's sake.
- MikaStar, on 06/26/2009, -0/+76As a teacher, I can only but think "what the hell were the school officials thinking?" I mean at one point, did not one of them step back and say "Hey, look we're asking a young teen girl to undress in front of us over some alleged Ibuprofen, no one else think this isn't such a good idea? I mean aside from humiliating this girl, that maybe legally this isn't a sound decision?" School admin. can be so stupid at times.
- leephil, on 06/25/2009, -4/+74Figures it was that perv Thomas who thought this was a good idea. Maybe he thinks this teenage girl may have been hiding a can of coke with a pube on it.
- AustinMandi, on 06/26/2009, -2/+62God damn it America! It's called common ***** sense. This needed to be brought all the way to the Supreme Court to tell you it was wrong???
- lordmike, on 06/26/2009, -3/+51The sky is blue? Nonsense... just liberal claptrap!
- townsendmerino, on 06/26/2009, -5/+50Clarence Thomas == injustice of the Supreme Court
- Coercer43, on 06/26/2009, -2/+44Hahaha, prescription strength ibuprofen? Seriously? And it took the Supreme Court to come to this conclusion? I'm a Republican, but I just don't get how someone can let their political view trump their common sense. I mean, why on earth would someone hide ibuprofen (which let's not forget is a MILD painkiller, even at the 1200mg/tablet "prescription strength" dosage) in their underwear or bra. Like...what?
I hate stupid people. Especially stupid people in charge. - xjonnyx134, on 06/26/2009, -0/+41I feel like the fact that this had to go to the supreme court in the first place speaks volumes for how completely off base our justice system really is. It shouldn't have ever been a question.
- dregin, on 06/26/2009, -0/+40Why the ***** does it take a supreme court ruling to decide that there's something very wrong with strip searching a child??
- chupavacas, on 06/26/2009, -1/+40Why this even went to the Supreme Court is beyond me. School authorities do not have the right to search anyone at any time for any reason, no more than kids have the right to search their teachers and principals. The Constitution's Fourth Amendment is speaking to the Federal Government and saying that it does not have the right to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures. If we don't understand our rights, fascists, like these school nazis, will soon round us all up into pens.
- Travelsonic, on 06/26/2009, -1/+38Who in their right mind would have ruled this strip-searching legal?
- alphaterminus, on 06/26/2009, -0/+35***** you Clarence Thomas. You are supposed be a constructionist, a Republican, a member of the party that is *supposed* to protect individual rights. ***** zero tolerance, ***** these school officials, and ***** the *AA! All over ***** Motrin even!
- macmcraeart, on 06/26/2009, -4/+37I agree completely. If we don't strip search every hot teen girl - starting today - the terrorists win in a big way.
- calicheese23, on 06/25/2009, -4/+33Safford Unified School District: 1-928-348-7000
- DarkDonnie, on 06/26/2009, -0/+29Uh, no. He was nominated by George HW Bush.
- heliumflash, on 06/26/2009, -1/+28I agree with the court's decision. Children are treated like second rate citizens here.
- bensamgold, on 06/25/2009, -5/+31I believe Anita Hill
- pagno, on 06/26/2009, -0/+26The search was illegal from the get-go, when the decision was made not to contact the parents. The fact it was for Ibuprofen just makes it that more moronic.
- inactive, on 06/25/2009, -1/+27These small community elites need to be kept in check by hitting them in the pocket book.
- Wingin, on 06/26/2009, -0/+24The shower scenario sounds a bit ***** to be frank, and maybe some people would have coped a bit better with being teenagers without it.
However, regardless of how you or other people coped with that, THIS girl was traumatized. I remember reading her original description of what she was told to do and it turned my stomach. Afterwards she didn't want to return to the school. She changed schools and later dropped out altogether. Clearly these are long term impacts.
That pedo bear is around just for laughs but has genuine relevance here. Think about this whole scenario another way. What if the girl had been forced to undress while she was being closely watched, and then forced to expose herself to someone who was telling her to do it because they were a pedophile?
She said, "They saw everything." - that was how physically exposed she felt. She was only thirteen. She didn't know why they were asking her to behave that way. She clearly didn't know how to refuse their commands, and says she was "wondering why her mother wasn't there". OK. They weren't pedophiles, but in terms of how the girl felt and how she reacted to the physical violation by adults with power over her, there is a huge similarity. This is unlike the shower scenario in that they were close to her and scrutinizing her intimately; in that she did not understand what was going on; and in that she could not continue to be a part of that school afterward.
I have a thirteen year old daughter of my own. If anyone treated her like that I would want them behind bars and regardless of their reasons.
This is link her description of what happened.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/SCOTUS/Story?id=7380771& ... - pagno, on 06/26/2009, -0/+23When I was 13, the school couldnt even give swats without parental consent. How do they justify a strip search of a minor without contacting the parents? SCOTUS is half right, it was illegal; but they shouldnt shield these over-zealous school admins from civil litigation.
- Timbo2702, on 06/26/2009, -0/+22It took the SUPREME ***** COURT to decide that it might not be ok to strip search a student for over the counter medicine? My god...
- sharkd, on 06/26/2009, -1/+22Justice Thomas' dissent says:
1. The school suspected that she had Ibuprofen and Naproxen, and when they did not find any in her backpack, notebooks or outer garments, it was reasonable to search her undergarments because convicted criminals have hidden illicit items in their underwear;
2. If you don't search beyond reasonable measure for over-the-counter Ibuprofen and Naproxen, what justification is there for unreasonable searches for other "street" narcotics;
3."By declaring the search unreasonable in this case, the majority has ‘surrender[ed] control of the American public school system to public school students’ by invalidating school policies that treat all drugs equally and by second-guessing swift disciplinary decisions made by school officials." (i.e., school officials know better, so be quiet and sit down);
4. Work out unreasonable school policies (such as: zero-tolerance drug policies banning asthma inhalers, anti-gang actions suspending students for being in a marching band and anti-weapon policies suspending kids for having a butter knife in their lunch box) via the PTA. There's no need to involve the police or courts when your 13-year-old daughter is forcibly stripped, without parental permission (because Thomas invokes the principal of loco parentis -- in the absence of actual parents, teachers are good enough substitutes) over the possibility, based on one child's claim, that she has a bottle of regular-strength Advil, or Aleve, in her panties.
So, yes, @Lonandubh, Thomas is a cretin. - alamedaman, on 06/26/2009, -3/+24Clarence Thomas has written some really good dissents in the past but this sounds like it was written by a student at Podunk Community College majoring in Custodial Technical services
- Witchboy, on 06/26/2009, -1/+22You're as wrong as Faux News calling Sanford a Democrat. (Probably just as deliberately.)
"Nominated to the Supreme Court by President George H. W. Bush in 1991, Thomas's confirmation hearings were bitter and intensely fought." - cjh24, on 06/26/2009, -1/+21Ibuprofen!? Man, when I was at school, we had to score points of Aspirin.
- Totenkopf88, on 06/26/2009, -0/+20What? The supreme court gaining common sense? This IS breaking news.
- inactive, on 06/26/2009, -1/+21Thank you for leading the vanguard with your comment history.
- themastersb, on 06/26/2009, -1/+21Well there goes Pedobear's aspirations to join the police force.
- blackinthmiddle, on 06/26/2009, -0/+19I could imagine the conversation if they brought in an officer.
Officer: So, you guys saw her put drugs on her person?
School: Well...no, but this girl here who has been a troublemaker, liar and a thief and who just got in trouble (again) for being caught with drugs, she says she knows she has drugs.
Officer:...ok...I'm going to be leaving now. If you want to go ahead and try to get a search warrant based on the evidence you've presented to me, good luck. When and if you do, call me back and I'll perform the search. - macmcraeart, on 06/26/2009, -5/+24r kelly?
- sulthernao, on 06/26/2009, -1/+20"Please, let's not go there. Besides, the only supreme court justice to voted in favor of strip search is Clarence Thomas, appointed by democratic President, Bill Clinton."
LOL! Want to check that again, Fox News. 7 of the current justices have been appointed by Republicans. Only Ginsberg and Breyer have been appointed by a Democrat (Clinton). - blackinthmiddle, on 06/26/2009, -0/+18@Mike17102, @Carrie76
So you're comparing taking a shower to being forced to a strip search? She was forced against her will and protests that she did nothing wrong. With your logic, being raped is no different than sex because it's just a physical act, right? Learning math is just as traumatic because you're being "forced" to learn it, right?
*****, where do I begin? First of all, the girl that accused her was a BIG TIME trouble maker in the school and had a checkered past. The girl forced to strip was a model student with ZERO problems. The mere fact that the school used that *evidence* as the only means to force this girl to strip is beyond understanding. What the ***** were they thinking?
What would I do if I were in the school's position? On the one hand I have a model student. On the other, I have a student who's lied, cheated, got herself into trouble and was anything BUT a model citizen. I damn sure am not ordering a strip search on the word of this person. We all suspect a lot of things. That doesn't mean we get to act on every suspicion. Otherwise, things like racial profiling would be allowed to continue. - o76923, on 06/26/2009, -0/+17she was 13 you *****.
- AndrewDB, on 06/26/2009, -3/+20Bra-*****-vo Supreme Court.
- nace33, on 06/26/2009, -1/+17There is no reasonable reason to dissent on prohibiting the strip searching of a child.
- dty2010, on 06/26/2009, -0/+15This is terrible news. It had to go all the way to the Supreme Court the vote was not unanimous.
- zero, on 06/26/2009, -1/+15I am glad the girl won the case. The teachers and everybody else involved should be fired and charged. However the girl should have had the common sense to refuse the strip searched when asked. Guess her parents never taught her about her rights. Or at least not to take your clothes off when someone tells you to.
- w1cked1, on 06/26/2009, -1/+15I hope it's math that you teach. Valid point otherwise, though your mistake was in looking for reason where there isn't any. So I guess the question becomes, why the ***** isn't there any? Every single one involved here, needs to lose their job, asap, and be brought up on sexual assault charges, invasion of privacy, etc.
- pe5t1lence, on 06/26/2009, -2/+15Being embarrassed in the locker room and be forced to do anything against your will by someone with power over you are two very different things.
That being said, the problem I have always had with this case is that the search was performed by staff at the school. They had no formal training on searches, and the legality there-of, and no understanding of probable cause. If the administrators had brought in an officer of the peace to asses the situation and perform the search, then the search would have been legal (and probably less disturbing to the girl). - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+13blackinthmiddle - you forgot to mention that she was strip-searched for ibuprofen. I repeat: IBUPROFEN.
To all of you people who condone the school's actions: do you even know what ibuprofen is? It's the stuff that goes into Advil and Motrin, and one "prescription-strength" pill is same as 2-3 OTC-strength pills. You're basically saying that it's OK to strip-search a child for having something that has fewer immediate side-effects than NyQuil. - noirbass, on 06/26/2009, -2/+15Dude, not the time or place
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