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- cruzlee, on 10/10/2007, -2/+121It's a sinister application of game theory. Only if everybody gets up (or a number of people) the risk is worth it.
If somebody's going around a classroom with everybody already under the desks you only have the option of fighting for other people's lives, because your own is most likely forfeit if you stand up. - HBNDonut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+93I could never say how I would act if I was in this sort of situation. But if I was going to die I hope I would have the courage to at least try and prevent it. Scary stuff.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+86FTA: “The only thing I can think of is mandatory curfew, because nothing else works,” said Reid.
If these kids were in college as the article says, wouldn't a mandatory curfew be pointless as they are technically adults at that point? - KMye, on 10/10/2007, -2/+83Christ, our country is doomed at the point three short paragraphs constitute a "wall of text"
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -8/+81It seems that I've been posting this too much to explain black relations in the community but its so true.
There's like a civil war goin on with black people
And there two sides....
There's black people, and there's *****
And ***** have got to go
Everytime black people wanna have a good time
Ignorant ass ***** ***** it up
Can't do *****, cant do *****, without some ignorant ass ***** ***** it up
Cant do nothin
Cant keep a disco open more than 3 weeks
Grand opening, grand closing
Cant go to a movie the first week it comes out
Why cause ***** are shooting at the screen
What kind of ignorant ***** is that
Hay this is a good movie, this is so good i gotta bust a cap in here
Hay I love black people, but i hate ***** boy, boy i hate *****
Boy I wish they'd let me join the Klu Klux Klan
***** I'd do a drive-by from here to Brooklyn
I'm tired of ***** man
-Chris Rock-
He backed down from this routine because he thought it empowered racist. But the bottom line is that the ***** is true. One ignorant dick killed 4 of us that had a future. Now the problem is that the focus is on bleak realities of the gunman, rather than the bright futures of the students. - zarex, on 10/10/2007, -16/+80Wait, how could this possibly happen? I thought they banned guns from campuses!?!? Someone should have sent this murderer the memo.
- MikeMulligan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+58Read the article...they were all college-aged and it happened at an elementary school at night. This had nothing to do with school shootings.
- cutanddefined, on 10/10/2007, -13/+52It is extremely sad indeed. But in reponse to your comment Lakeshore, most attacks always start with an attack on the mind which triggers emotional inertia. A person’s ability to perform techniques that require fine or complex motor skills (such as using a gun)
greatly diminishes while under attack. On the other hand, gross motor skills such as grabbing, tearing, ripping, striking, biting are not only NOT affected during high stress situations, they are enhanced thanks to mother nature's hard wiring of
our survival mechanism. ( Excerpt from Richard Dimitris' teaching of Senshido)
Even in extreme cases like this one, having a gun is one thing. Reaching for it and shooting with precision under stress?... not likely to happen. Remember, there is a predator-prey mentality going on here. And in such cases, fake compliancy is the way to go. It raises the attackers ego, drops their guards (since they have you where they want) and allow the effect of surprise to be on your side. Reaching for a gun, while someone threatens you with one isn't exactly "faking compliancy with a plan" to me..
I might agree with your position on gun controls and probably for the same reasons you are agains't it.. but in a case like this one, relying on a gun to defend yourself would be as useless as relying on your local police. Plus, weapons are only an extension of your body. Don,t know how to fight? A weapon will be like a gun in a 5 years old hands. Cheers!! - TheDHC, on 10/10/2007, -8/+46just another reason to avoid newark. matter of fact, i'll just avoid new jersey
- KyleGoetz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+36Did MindTrigger just get shot halfway through his comment?
- AnarkeIncarnate, on 10/10/2007, -4/+37We are conditioned to not resist. We are conditioned that guns are only the tools of the "evil" and that we cannot defend ourselves or we are somehow tainted. That is *****. However, something stinks about this article. I think this was neither random nor that they were these perfect little angels.
- 4answer2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32>This is absolutely terrible. When will ***** like this end?
Never - djmadness, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32I bet there is more to this story. I find it hard to believe that kids were just listening to music and ended up getting shot this way. This looks way to personal. If they were just going to randomly shoot them would they do a drive by?
- chrisc262, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32did you notice it was 4 black kids?
(i am not racist, but unfortunately it seems many people are) - HalfNakedPappy, on 10/10/2007, -9/+37Too bad none of the good guys had a gun.
- Tobark, on 10/10/2007, -4/+30First: It was on a schoolyard but NOT DURING SCHOOL. This is not another "School Shooting"
Second: The kids were just hanging out listening to music? I finally saw the pics of this schoolyard. They were around back out of site. Does anyone really think they were just hanging out listening to music? Don't be naive.
This was drug related. - oofki, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28the term "execution-style" is acceptable stop picking on ***** for the sake of picking on it.
- broeks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Fight or flight. Most people like the flight option.
- MindTrigger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24One fact most people aren't aware of is how hard it is to shoot a moving target with a handgun, especially if the shooter is inexperienced, nervous, and amped up on adrenaline. Even up close it is not easy to hit a someone who is dodging in front of you let alone if they are trying to get the gun out of your hand. It's probably safer to run, while juking side to side making yourself a target only a seasoned marksmen is going to take down, but that's not always possible if you are with others and you want to help them escape as well. Just realize that it's not that easy to hit you unless you make it easy by holding still.
The more incidents like this I hear about, the more it pounds into my head that if it becomes likely I am going to be shot, that I will be shot trying to kill the ***** holding the gun. Scared or not, I will die trying before I allowing myself to be executed.
I do n - frostieDude, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27I thought it was because you were surrounded by neighboring countries full of genocidal maniacs bent on your extermination. (Just what I heard.)
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -15/+36This is absolutely terrible. When will ***** like this end?
Those who do this are not even people in my book. Hell, they are not even animals. - cutanddefined, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Oh please teach me how to construct easy-reading paragraph for the tired mind oh absolutroot!
- cawpin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Ok, that means it violates constitutional rights. Hence, it is illegal.
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18And, apparently, no limit to the freedoms that they'll impinge for a slight amount of security...
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15You mean the illusion of security.
- Kurisuku, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17I live in NJ, and you're right. It's a bad idea to come here.
I live in a town similar to newark, if not worse... Then diggers bash me because I'm too afraid to use public transportation. Rigggght.
It is kind of sad, though -- I live about 15 minutes away from NYC and I never go there since I'm too afraid to use NJ transit. There's shootings like this ALL the time in my neighorhood, and they're NEVER reported on/never get media coverage because it's just the "Black gangs having at it."
The odd execution style of this event sets it apart, though, hence the current outrage. - djaudible, on 10/10/2007, -7/+22Why isn't this all over CNN and FOXNEWS?!? Why isn't the counrty mourning these kids that were executed on school premises? Am I missing something here?
- web.phreak, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16"Politicians and law enforcement officials admit they don't have any answers that will satisfy the many devastated families who want more action."
Right...
Politicians in Newark == street thugs in a tie - zarex, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16But New Jersey has some of the toughest gun laws in the country! Clearly the criminals forgot! Silly them.
- the6thReplicant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12To be honest that routine has placed Chris Rock on the mantle of Lenny Bruce and George Carlin. It's a shame he doesn't do it anymore, but I understand why. On the other hand someone had to say it and I'm glad it's someone with talent.
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Anyone think Pastor John McClain's going to take matters into his own hands?
- ubuwalker31, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12First, because it is inaccurate. Secondly, "school shootings" aren't common at all. And lastly...this wasn't a "school shooting"...it was a shooting of college students at an elementary school.
- octophobic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Maybe high schools should include some aspects of police training in place of some physical education classes. It can't hurt anyone to have the knowledge and it just might save someone's life!
- whooven, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Interesting comment. Whose the racist now? The word "redneck" is a racist term, too. It's used against white people. It's all or nothing man. You can't abolish the term "*****" but allow "redneck" and vice-versa. If you disgree, please provide a list of acceptable racist terms. Is "wet back" okay, too (Mexican)? How about "whop", "spick" or "chink"?
- nodonoug, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11When towns instill mandatory curfews, there usually is no age limit on them.
- noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Try writing for the kindergarten grade-level. You'll reach a larger group of diggers.
- nodonoug, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I agree with your point, but these people weren't at their own school. These are college kids who were shot at an elementary school. FTA, they apparently went to a party that evening, and no one knows how they ended up at that school.
- catfish182, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14its nice to think that if you have a gun pointed to your head you will go chuck norris on the guy but everyone acts different in those situations so its not fair to look at a person and say "you could have tryed to stop it" Hell when i had a weapon pointed towards me i froze and didnt know what to do and then i thought i pissed myself (i found out later i was shot and it was blood not piss). I shot the guy and killed him right after that (this was during the first gulf war BTW) cause i was angry but the point is every person will act their own way and its not fair to that person to say "why didnt you fight" Some people are meant to fight for the ones that dont. Thats why we have police.
- deldigger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Correct...
DSU is Delaware State University is located in Dover,Delaware about two and a half hours from Newark,NJ. - TheDHC, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9"America needs to stop being a retard like every other civilised nation[...]"
irony - alliekins619, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10YES I DID! I was like "Sweet, is he going to avenge these kids through a series of increasingly suspenseful actions of questionable legality? Will a helicopter be killed by a car!?"
- AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8But it definitely will be forfeit if you don't. Is it not better to sacrifice your life to save others if you will likely die anyway? At least by fighting, you have a chance as well.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Human ***** Nature.
- TheDHC, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9whats the prize!
my life! - stoanhart, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Animals don't do this. When an animal kills another animal it is either a) of another species, for food, or b) the same species, in an "argument" (usually related to mating).
You will never see a wolf just go and kill 4 other wolves, just because. - vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11You think that is brutal...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp
These guys made the German overseers complain to the high command about how brutal they were.
It will stop when either the human race is dead or ruled by machines. There have been countless stories about people made to dig their own graves or stand in line when people are being executed. You are simply thinking it isn't going to happen to me if I go along.
In truth, they'd shoot you first if you fought back. - StellarlyAstral, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Holy *****. My father went to that school. It's in a really really really rough neighborhood, but then again all of Newark is rough.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14The murder victims didn't have the common courtesy of being attractive white girls to speed up the whole investigation process, apparently.
- salinemist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Noticing someones race doesn't make you a racist. Implying that they're somehow genetically predisposed to crime would. I prefer to think that today's black youth suffers from a complete lack of education, role models, and the destruction of their basic family unit.
- Bdog2g2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Looks like "No Child Left Behind" is working as planned.
Also, Digg's formatting of paragraphs sucks donkey-dick. -
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