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- imacommi, on 06/18/2008, -9/+214The government needs to keep its hand of the internet. period.
- freezerburn666, on 06/18/2008, -11/+157***** american bill. nobody ***** wants it in canada but our politicians are fags and bend over and take it from the americans. democracy my ass.
- GordonClass, on 06/18/2008, -3/+133Good to know we here in America can still ruin things for everyone.
- alapoet, on 06/18/2008, -2/+125Bad, ill conceived legislation.
And in many aspects, well nigh unenforceable. (Which isn't an entirely bad thing.) - technogenius, on 06/18/2008, -0/+96I bring to you....
THE HAND OF THE INTERNET!! - blackinthmiddle, on 06/18/2008, -0/+61From the article:
"And how will the bill reconcile itself with another proposed law, the secretive Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), which would allow border guards to seize devices that they suspect of containing material that infringes copyright, and would force Internet service providers to reveal the identities of suspected infringers without a court order?"
Give me a friggin' break! I can see it now. "Hey, that laptop you're carrying looks like it has copyright material on it! I'm confiscating it, sir?" The way I see it:
o How will one of these guards search any of my devices without due cause?
o How will anyone be able to determine my music is mine? Did I rip my own music? Did I buy it from Amazon? Or did I illegally download it from a Bit torrent? There's no way that you can suspect anything simply by seeing "superfreak.mp3" on my computer.
o Are we now asking security guards to be computer experts?
o How will this be done while limiting the additional delays while crossing the boarder?
I pray that Canada doesn't implement this. - soundman7718, on 06/18/2008, -0/+61hey government...you can have my money, but don't take my internet.
- DarkStar3333, on 06/18/2008, -1/+52With the ammount of attention allready gathering around this Bill it doesn't have a chance. Unlike our neighbours to the south we take a much harder line to protect civilian personal rights.
"As-Is" this bill will be shot down just as quickly as the original bill proposed awhile back. This bill offers absolutly no benefit to the Canadian citiczen.
Our IP laws are a bit outdated but this is not an issue that can be solved with draconian laws retrofitted onto technology. The reason piracy is so "high" is because there are no suitable business practices that suit our needs. - Surferess, on 06/18/2008, -1/+52This would be like putting pop-up snakes back into the can.
- Biggityb78, on 06/18/2008, -4/+44I would like to see the government try to stop me from using getting my free music!
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 06/18/2008, -0/+35You don't know where it's been.
- mrroarke, on 06/18/2008, -0/+34WTF does a TomTom GPS have to do with copyright bills?
- LiXy, on 06/18/2008, -0/+33Send a letter to those responsible for Bill C-61 in Ottawa in less than a minute by completing this letter wizard provided by the Canadian Coalition for Electronic Rights - http://www.ccer.ca/send-a-letter-to-harper-prentic ...
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -0/+31Why are politicians wasting their time with hardly enforceable legislation during a time when they need to be fixing god knows how many other relevant problems?
- Realnemesis, on 06/18/2008, -0/+25They probably download stuff too.
- dimension128, on 06/18/2008, -1/+24How would you like it if your perfectly functioning car suddenly stopped working simply because the company that made it went out of business? Or perhaps they just made Car 2.0 and say, we don't support Car 1.0 anymore so you have to buy the new one if you would like to keep getting fuel. Naw, you'll just fix it yourself, or get the fuel yourself through some other means. OOps! you cant do that, its illegal.
You go buy a book, it is printed on paper that decays quickly under normal conditions. You have to wear special glasses to read it, because without them the text will look random. Do you find a way to use the lenses of those glasses on some copy machine to make a 'back up' of your book? Nope. The publisher says, "We understand you have a right to the data printed in this book, and that it is prone to failure. However, if you try to circumvent our 'copy protection' that is a crime. BUT, We can offer you protection from data loss.......
FOR A PRICE.
The current US law enables software companies to commit a legalized form of EXTORTION. - inactive, on 06/18/2008, -3/+25Or in the plane.
- bundwallah, on 06/18/2008, -0/+22I swear, if both governments put this amount of effort and lobbying into stuff like, stopping hunger, justice reform, fixing roads, etc, etc then I'd applaud them. The coverage that IP rights gets you'd think this was the battle of the hearts of minds for our times. It is not!! It is the government enforcing laws on the behalf of corporations that erodes the rights of the consumer/constituents. You watch, these laws are not so much about protecting IP, they are about infringing on your personal rights to privacy and to information in general.
- blackinthmiddle, on 06/18/2008, -0/+20Yes, but you don't implement Draconian measures, either. With what Canada is proposing, they essentially have the right to search you without cause, because unless the guard is Kreskin, there's no way to know a person has illegal music on, for example, their laptop. It reeks of US influence (specifically, organizations like the RIAA) on Canada. It would essentially be like giving cops the right to search your house every day for drugs. No need for probable cause. No need for warrants. They're simply allowed to search whenever they feel like.
- artfiend77, on 06/18/2008, -0/+18T'would seem that we're both the bitches of Hollywood (c) and the Music Industry (c)
- munkyxtc, on 06/18/2008, -1/+19UFIA & a Taser for you probably.
- ryleyleckie, on 06/18/2008, -1/+18this bill is so 1999
- skinnyskittles, on 06/18/2008, -4/+20the government needs to keep its hands off everything
- Pirataholic, on 06/18/2008, -6/+22***** copyright.... I pirate proudly!
- MWeather, on 06/18/2008, -0/+16"With the ammount of attention allready gathering around this Bill it doesn't have a chance."
They said the same thing about the RAVE Act. And it did fail twice, but they just slipped it into the Amber Alert bill, and it passed almost unanimously.
It's happened before, it'll happen again. - PopcornDave, on 06/18/2008, -1/+17Simple. Since the roads are maintained by the government, you're not going to be able to download maps to a GPS anymore because you're infringing on their copyright by doing so. You're going to have to go back to a government approved map although you won't be able to read it in the car or call for technical support on said map while you're driving.
- NoCt1, on 06/18/2008, -11/+25true. canada is our bitch. sucks to say that.. but its true.
- Lazydriver, on 06/18/2008, -1/+15The difference being is that, the distribution of said products (ie sharing) costs no money AND people tend to buy products they like?
Think of it as free publicity. Good ***** sells no matter how capable it is to pirate. - blackinthmiddle, on 06/18/2008, -0/+13FTA:
"And how will the bill reconcile itself with another proposed law, the secretive Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), which would allow border guards to seize devices that they suspect of containing material that infringes copyright, and would force Internet service providers to reveal the identities of suspected infringers without a court order?"
You *did* read the article, right? Kinda embarrassing calling people douche when it's fairly apparent you didn't completely comprehend what you read. - toekneebullard, on 06/18/2008, -0/+13No, unenforceable laws ARE bad. What happens is they make the law, then don't enforce it, so they make a new "better" law that's also unenforceable. They stack these things on top of each other a hundred times over until it's completely impossible for anyone without a law degree to understand what the law is. So the only people who know what's going on are the lawyers taking advantages of the loopholes created by redundant, unenforceable laws.
What good is a law if the common man can't understand them? - KaivenTor, on 06/18/2008, -0/+13I wonder how the border patrol would address encrypted material...
- Pixelante, on 06/18/2008, -0/+13Putting the nuclear mushroom cloud back into its nice shiny plutonium sphere?
- enri, on 06/18/2008, -1/+13Don't you Canadians have your own crazy neocon administration now? I know the American industries are pushing for the law but you ARE a sovereign nation. Blame Harper.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -1/+13with a little help from Cisco (like China gets) that would not be too hard
- cvindustries, on 06/18/2008, -0/+12Wrong country.
- FAHQ2, on 06/18/2008, -0/+12Someone should get a hold of a picture showing a Politician, (preferably one who supports these new laws) or a member of their family with an iPhone.
As we all know, (up until July 11) anyone in Canada currently using an iphone is using an unlocked phone, therefore they are thus breaking this new proposed law, by using and owning a hacked product.
So if this law passes, we can then ask that these politicians which had unlocked iPhones also be fined the $20,000 fee.
That should teach them a lesson. - ErikHarrison, on 06/18/2008, -2/+14This won't change a ***** thing. It will only give them something to point at when they bust someONE.
- davidhallstrom, on 06/18/2008, -3/+14Good post. Good luck.
- icndvl, on 06/18/2008, -1/+12You mean think about the RIAA who makes the gross majority of their money on the backs of the artists and their fans. Who is the douche bag?
- jayfehr, on 06/18/2008, -0/+11I just spent a year copying my LEGALLY purchased dvd's onto my computer to use with my iPod and Media Player. According to this bill I will be liable for a $10 million dollar fine. I'm not stealing, and the government is not protecting my rights.
math proof: 500 dvd's * $20 000 per DRM crack = $10 million - sweetholymosiah, on 06/18/2008, -1/+11Vote out your conservative MP whatever it takes. Whoever is competitive! the NDP in downtown Toronto, Liberals in the suburbs, and GREEN party everywhere else. The "christian, conservative" MP's in Ontario have to lie even to themselves when they sign on to Harper's neoconservative ideology.
- freqk, on 06/18/2008, -0/+10You don't want to know.
- Troy64, on 06/18/2008, -1/+10Would they have to pry the computer out of you cold dead hand?
- cplusplus, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8How is a Canadian bill all about Congressional funding?
- nickert0n, on 06/18/2008, -1/+8Encrypt your traffic
- phunlee, on 06/18/2008, -4/+11I don't like your simile. B/c Putting those springy snakes back in the can is pretty easy. You could go w/'Cat back in the bag" That's a bit harder. Or to be original 'That's like putting a tree back in it's acorn'... I don't know... something extremely hard..
Unless of course you meant that it would be a challenge, but not an impossible thing to do. In that case, I think I disagree. Okay, that's all. Thanks. - mhuggins, on 06/18/2008, -0/+7See ya soon!
- nutzngum, on 06/18/2008, -0/+7Fine, try to stop people from downloading stuff illegally, but stay out of my legitimately-purchased collection and let me do whatever i want with it...
It pisses the crap out of me that I can get fined because I decided that I want to transfer my purchased copy of Child's Play onto my iPod to help me get to sleep...
stoopid politicians. - astra05, on 06/18/2008, -5/+12Blame Cananda, Blame Cana.....Oh wait, the US is definitely responsible for this pile of crap.
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