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- enevitable, on 04/29/2009, -2/+95For a photo op they sure messed up. They could have told all New Yorkers, and instead of scaring the ***** out of them they would have been able enjoy the amazing sight of a VC-25 and a fighter jet buzzing the big apple.
Did they honestly not realize that New Yorkers now have a trained anxiety to erratically flying planes over their city? - fuckingusername, on 04/29/2009, -8/+84they could have hired a photo shop pro and could have put that plane in the sky without even taking it for a spin hell I could have photo shopped that. But its not like are government has any ***** brains
- DillonHinson, on 04/30/2009, -11/+66I was under the impression that the Obama administration was going to tell us, the taxpayers, how our money was going to be spent. I don't see where Airforce One photoshoots were listed.
- craftyguy, on 04/30/2009, -3/+54Hey Government: photoshop.
- robdiggity, on 04/29/2009, -5/+49Hired?
They could have bought a 14 year old a pizza and had a gorgeous photo shopped result in an afternoon.
Honest to god, some jackass needs to report for their beating. - inactive, on 04/30/2009, -20/+53This incident is a perfect example of what's wrong with America. Not the part where an airplane flew over New York City, but the part where everyone acted like cry-babies afterwards. Remember back before 9//11, when America thought of itself as a strong Nation that loved civil liberties and human rights? Then in ONE DAY, we instantly turned into a nation of sniveling cowards who sold out every principle we'd ever believed in, and sit around cowering in our bedrooms lest we catch Swine Flu or spot an unidentified airplane. Then again, maybe we didn't actually "turn in" to anything. Maybe that's what we'd been all along, and all it took was one attack on our own soil to bring it out into the open.
- AdeleMor, on 04/29/2009, -7/+40i'm not usually a conspiracy theorist but it did seem like a weird exercise, like some terrorist preventative measures (like a rehearsal of sorts) than a 'photo op'....
- Ga1d3n, on 04/30/2009, -2/+31No kidding.
Lack of information among the public, and flying a boeing 747 at low altitude in the same goddamn city where a terrorist attack involving planes crashing into buildings?
Genius.
I felt disgusted after I watched the hysteria of the people there (and I don't blame them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aE-7BWoC7U - bamafun, on 04/30/2009, -1/+23http://wcbstv.com/topstories/air.force.one.2.99645 ... - this article states that according to air force spokesperson - The cost of the frivolous flight was about $60,000 an hour and that was just for the presidential aircraft. That doesn't include the cost of the two F-16s that came along.
The flight by the VC-25, a modified Boeing Co. 747, and two F-16 fighter jets cost $328,835, Air Force spokeswoman Vicki Stein said.
That includes $300,658 for the larger plane, which flew a three-hour mission, and about $28,178 for the F-16 jets, which flew 1.8 hours each, Stein said in an e-mailed statement. - Murrabbit, on 04/30/2009, -9/+30The worst part of this is that you know that 9/11 conspiracy theorists are going to pick up on this and claim it's like a dry-run for another 9/11. The absolute worst part of it, though is that that explanation seems more plausible than the story that enough people thought this would be a good idea that it actually happened. It's almost inconceivably stupid.
- TheCheerleader, on 04/29/2009, -7/+27That is so incredibly insensitive. Who made that dumb call?
- dannykeene, on 04/30/2009, -6/+23The swine flu coincidentally took over the news cycle while the presidents plane and a fighter jet bobbed and weaved through manhattan.
Sounds like a clasic case of misdirection. - bamafun, on 04/29/2009, -1/+18They could have hired a whole staff of photoshop pros for the $300,000 + that this fiasco cost them. I bet if they had been able to complete all the photo ops they wanted to, that have since been canceled, it would have cost over a million!
- chanop, on 04/30/2009, -2/+19They need to stop covering this and give us more updates on the swine flu. Swine flu is really under-reported. /s
- snagglefoof, on 04/30/2009, -0/+17should have
- inactive, on 04/30/2009, -6/+22Frankly, I find it to be a ridiculous suggestion that obama would spend any time dealing with the day to day maintenance and operations of the airplane that his employer flies him around in from time to time. He's far too busy doing his job to pay attention to this.
- inactive, on 04/30/2009, -1/+17***** it, is anything NOT misdirection these days? We have one non-story supplanting another non-story, and I'm positive both are being used to distract from something else entirely.
- MechaMurloc, on 04/30/2009, -1/+16Why does it always boil down to a liberal/conservative issue? Do you think a liberal is more inclined to lie than a conservative? Because i'm sure that everyone regardless of political standing will lie.
- offrdbandit, on 04/30/2009, -1/+16Because all we have to do is dress pretty, speak eloquently, and play nicely and all our problems will go away.
Duh. - thejokell, on 04/30/2009, -1/+14would have
- pathouston22, on 04/30/2009, -1/+13http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_re_us/us ...
"The photo op was combined with a training exercise to save money" - Black6x, on 04/30/2009, -0/+12How good is a stock photo or souvenir photo going to be if there are a bunch of screaming New Yorkers in the background?
- Zelf24, on 04/30/2009, -4/+16If my career in government IT has anything to do with it, the people making these high level decisions have no idea what Photoshop is or what it can do...
- inactive, on 04/30/2009, -2/+13I see where you're going but $300k is a drop in the bucket to these guys. They don't care, it isn't their money. No one would have found out the cost anyway if the plane hadn't scared the ***** out of people.
- HiFidelity, on 04/30/2009, -17/+28Q: "Did they honestly not realize that New Yorkers now have a trained anxiety to erratically flying planes over their city"?
A: Pull those blinders off your eyes! It was a compliance test and after seeing the public run in sheer terror, I'd say New Yorkers passed with flying colors. The Government WANTS you to live in a state of fear and they're doing an exceptional job of keeping people in it.
Next fearmongering tactic: "Watch out for that Swine flu" - AmazingA, on 04/30/2009, -0/+11There's a pretty big section in this article about who's call this was... Caldera
- shaka999, on 04/30/2009, -0/+10The story was about how they couldn't get an answer. You really missed the point.
- Daggorath, on 04/30/2009, -3/+13It's this kind of wasteful government spending that helps add to our insane national debt. Why the hell do we need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on publicity shots for Air Force 1. Don't answer that because I don't care what the answer is, we shouldn't be spending it.
- yerdaddy, on 04/30/2009, -0/+9That's got to be about the limit for unbelievable ***** excuses. If there is any slightly observable reason for the whole thing it would be to keep you softened up to unbelieveable ***** excuses. Other than that you may as well assume you have no idea whatsoever why it was done.
- bamafun, on 04/30/2009, -4/+13can you really spend $300K on a photo op and not need white house executive approval?? why not just come out and say hey we goofed.
- inactive, on 04/30/2009, -12/+21Why does Obama need to stand up every two weeks and field softball questions from a pliant mainstream media? Well yes, because his is a buffoon. But also because, like Big Brother, it helps him keep control of weak minds. The Air Force One incident is an outrage. Where are the firings?
- tgc1, on 04/30/2009, -4/+13Looks like they've got America by the balls now. They can fly a plane over your head and make you gasp now. If you can't admit the terrorists have won, or whatever the ***** boogey-man the government has dreamed up to scare you half to death with, I don't know how to make it any clearer. The evidence is right there in your face.
This appears, on the surface, like another government blunder. But i'd argue this is probably some sort of exercise. Conditioning maybe. The conspiracy theorists could have a field day with this one. But to be quite honest, who's to say what the hell they are doing. Or what they THINK they are doing.
Because honestly, a "photo-op" could have been done at the White House any day of the week. But that someone in the new administration felt it necessary to fly a plane overhead with two fighter aircraft, specially over a city that less than a decade ago was attacked in a very similar manner is not only incredibly disrespectful but also pretty arrogant. And to be doing that kind of ***** and showboating over your own countries people, that's just 10 kinds of ***** up. That's like pissing on graves man. You just don't do it!
Anyone want to speculate what the hell this was about? Again, i'm not buying the whole "it was a photo-op" *****. Sounds like a cover for something else. But who the hell can say anymore without being quickly labeled a wacko conspiracy theorist who needs 7 pounds of tin-foil on his/her head. Which reminds me, I need to go get some. - inactive, on 04/30/2009, -3/+11The WHO is part of the US government now?
- unleashedlive, on 04/30/2009, -2/+10I'd pay twice as much for it then.
- litolist, on 04/30/2009, -0/+8I would, but he's dead. :-(
- offrdbandit, on 04/30/2009, -1/+9It's actually a Winter Holiday card. Christmas is politically incorrect.
- rhoonah, on 04/30/2009, -3/+11As much as I would like to agree, I doubt that the president is briefed on everything that happens. I could see how what many believed to be a simple photo op wouldn't be mentioned at his staff meetings, etc. I mean, we have wars in 2 countries, an ailing economy, a plummeting dollar, a banking industry in the toilet, an auto industry in the same toilet and unemployment out of control. I can see how this wouldn't get much presidential visibility ahead of time.
- sindex, on 04/30/2009, -1/+9I remember when we wouldn't spend $328,000+ during a recession on what amounts to a $1,000 Photoshop project. Frankly that's the part that pisses me off.
I think not telling the public was a bad idea. But then again I'm probably sort of sensitive about 3,000 people dying and the hundreds of billions of dollars it cost the country the last time a plane flew that close to a landmark in NYC. But I'd hardly say I'm crying over it. I just think it was a poor call. - Balanced, on 04/30/2009, -0/+8The White House definitely knew according to the story I've heard.
The White House is not the President, however.
OTOH, it was probably at least technically approved by one of his high level advisors. - rhoonah, on 04/30/2009, -1/+9I agree totally. We have a story about THE FLU hammering us on every media outlet and everyone stops talking about one of the more stupid whitehouse gaffs in a while. And that says a lot given the previous administration.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... - havek23, on 04/30/2009, -2/+9It was for Boeing's international corporate catalog
- Jashobeam5, on 04/30/2009, -0/+7"If a president were that important they would not be replaced every 4/8 years."
LOL! Yeah, the leader of the free world can't be important enough to have extra security and not throw the world into another panic. You want the VP to be Pres that badly? - blankjob, on 04/30/2009, -5/+12Be cause obama wants to sell posters with him on it that say "that's my plane bitches"
- Sherman901, on 04/30/2009, -6/+13Are you ***** me? Did you just turn this into a Liberal/NeoCon argument?
Get off of Obama's *****. - pathouston22, on 04/30/2009, -11/+18The flight was a training exercise. They would of been in the air regardless. So $200k was not spent on the photo op.
- LeepII, on 04/30/2009, -4/+11This was a planned psy-op to scare the sheep.
- rhoonah, on 04/30/2009, -2/+9I'll venture to guess that if it happened under a Bush whitehouse that you wouldn't be able to get enough coverage or calls for his head. This is stupidity in its highest form. Not to mention that we are in a depression and people are being taxed to death and they spend $328,835 of tax payer money on a photo op that wasn't needed? Yeah, let's stop holding our officials accountable by not talking about it.
- daschupa, on 04/30/2009, -0/+6Knowing them it would probably look something like this.
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss214/daschupa/ ... -
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