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- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+28What the hell would the trial be about?
"Mr. al-Zeidi, did you throw a shoe at President George W. Bush of America"?
Where's Atticus when you need him? - SteveMTyler, on 12/30/2008, -2/+30must be too injured from the torture for a trial right now
- Bennzor, on 12/30/2008, -6/+34if i were bush i would just forgive the guy and ask that he be released, because if we want to make iraq a real democracy we have to start with freedom of speech. Iince throwing a shoe in islam is more of an insult than an intent to cause physical harm.
- TheMagicalMoose, on 12/30/2008, -0/+18You could almost say that he's a shoe-in to be put in jail.
- TTURabble, on 12/30/2008, -2/+14"a spokesman for Iraq's Higher Judicial Court, said that the trial has been postponed indefinitely pending a high court ruling on what charges the journalist should face."
So he is going to sit in jail forever?
*****' figures as much would happen... - fuckingusername, on 12/30/2008, -0/+11mmm wise guy
http://web.po.gs/14xla4j.gif - poweribo, on 12/30/2008, -6/+16respect, as you know, is earned, not given on a silver platter.
- SpitTheTruth, on 12/30/2008, -0/+8Al-Zeidi was really saying "Thank you" to Bush for giving him the opportunity in a new Iraq to express himself without him AND his entire family's village being destroyed. See, the Iraqi people are grateful for the US, they just haven't fully realized it yet.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+7lol.
- SpitTheTruth, on 12/30/2008, -4/+11He's more than welcome to express his feelings by hurling insults, but freedom of speech does not include assaulting another person.
If we want to help Iraq be a real democracy they also need to learn about justice and that if you break a law (which he did), that there is a penalty for that. If he gets off without penalty it'll show him that he can show disregard for laws and people without any punishment for his behavior. That works counter to a free democratic society. - SpudgeBoy, on 12/30/2008, -1/+8They have to wait for his wounds to heal, before they bring him in front of the public.
- jellygraph, on 12/30/2008, -1/+8Probably to let his bruises and wounds from torturing and beatings heal before being presented publicly
- LiquidSpark, on 12/30/2008, -14/+20I'm sure it's been said a million times... I would have loved to see that ass-hat throw a shoe at Sadamm during a press conference. I wonder if he'd be so brave then.
- treehugger87, on 12/30/2008, -3/+9So your point is that "we" are better than Sadaam because Mr. Al-Zeidi is still alive? We're showing our moral superiority and world leadership by allowing this man to be beaten and imprisoned indefinitely without trial? The throwing of a shoe is probably the most courageous act of the 21st century.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAQ_SHO ... - treehugger87, on 12/30/2008, -1/+7Of course it's postponed! How could they hold him indefinitely without trial if they went ahead and had a trial?
- jbcorny, on 12/30/2008, -0/+6who are these shrubs with the power to liberate and why don't we plant them elsewhere?
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -2/+7No need for a trial! This man did what few have done - expose flaws in security. Give him a replacement shoe. They already know his size.
- SteveMTyler, on 12/30/2008, -0/+5yes, but an assult charge doesn't include a bit of torture before trial to force you to admit that someone put you up to it.
- Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -3/+8How many people has Obama killed? If you can name one I will take off my shoes and throw them at him with you.
- Chyeld, on 12/30/2008, -0/+5It's sad your gold standard of what is "right" is defined by being a step above Sadaam.
That's somewhere along the lines of claiming it's ok to kill someone, as long as you make sure it's a clean shot and they don't linger. - CeruleanRed, on 12/31/2008, -2/+7Perhaps President Bush could consider requesting the Iraqi courts to be lenient or even ask the Iraqi government to pardon Mr. al-Zeidi. It would be a way to transcend the incident, to rise above insult in the spirit of reconciliation. Isn't that what Americans urge of Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds?
There is much mistrust in the Islamic world of America and Bush. Mr. al-Zeidi has become something of a street hero for standing up to America. A hallmark of emotional maturity is the ability to rise above petty insults. A personal request for leniency by Mr. Bush would be a mature response to an insult that posed no real danger.
I'm not suggesting that assault shouldn't be illegal. However, under these specific circumstances, taking a moral high ground would be an international relations victory. Petty, insecure people seek petty revenge. Sophisticated gentlemen rise above - that's what I'm suggesting.
Sigh. We live in a crazy world. - sadisticmind, on 12/30/2008, -3/+7i feel sad that Digg only allows you to bury a comment once.
- djholybolt, on 12/30/2008, -0/+4myuck myuck myuck
- sadisticmind, on 12/30/2008, -4/+8SO with Jackson0909 logic. the Jewish families that lost countless loved ones from Hitlers rule in WW2 have no right to throw shoes at Hitler.
i think he needs to rethink his logic. - PrairieDoggin, on 12/30/2008, -0/+3bah dom pssshhh
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -2/+5I only hope the punishment fits the crime. If the line isn't tied up, we should get on the horn with the judge, and make a measure of the man.
Hopefully he's a merciful sole, and not the kind to string people up. - inactive, on 12/30/2008, -2/+5I wonder how many times a day they water- board him, I bet mr Bush gets a live video feed also.
- sadisticmind, on 01/01/2009, -0/+3i dont worship che, its because my family have always been in the Chicano movement that lead me to like the idea of him. and ppl tell me i look like him.
"Anarchist's Cookbook"? so just because i loath a horrible leader means im a anarchist? i dont agree with the idea of anarchy, it gets us nowhere. either way, your logic is flawed. you obviously have issues.
I feel sad that there are Americans like you ........ :P - inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+3TIGER HAND!!!
- CoD4, on 12/30/2008, -7/+10I salute this guy for doing what none of us had the balls to do
read this
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/opinion/30herber ... - etnoo, on 12/30/2008, -0/+3Carrlosss!
- Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -5/+8I can't possibly disagree with you more. We need to put Bush out there in the town square in stocks and give the American/Iraqi public rotten tomatoes to throw at him non stop 24/7 for the rest of his existence... We'll do it in shifts just to keep them coming.
This man deserves absolutely no respect whatsoever. He is a liar, an idiot and a murderer. The office isn't something he should be able to hide behind under the illusion that just because you are the President you deserve respect. You have to earn it, just like everyone else. - Kidddrunkadelic, on 12/31/2008, -0/+3wonder what the guy's favorite game is??
http://www.aksalser.com/game.htm - inactive, on 12/31/2008, -0/+3Best post in the entire thread so far.
- inactive, on 12/31/2008, -0/+3Yes, because there's so much equivalence between the Constitutional Democracy that now exists in Iraq and the dictatorship that existed under Saddam.
- jbcorny, on 12/30/2008, -0/+3was this story submitted by george michael? or is it that dude from color me badd?
- Stormwern, on 12/30/2008, -0/+3Free hat! ..I mean shoe.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+3probably would have missed then to ,,, :( But he might have hit the C.I.A. chief((George Herbert Walker Bush)) there selling Saddam the gas that Saddam used agents the Kerds and Iran.
now that would not have been a healthy thing to do ! - WELLDOITLIVE, on 12/30/2008, -0/+2NYYYYERRRRRRMMMM PEN MISSILE!
- joshstone100, on 12/31/2008, -0/+2They should hang Bush and all his "friends" instead...this guy is a world hero...
- GamingFox, on 12/30/2008, -2/+4So is throwing a punch at someone's face but missed is considered to be part of speech; therefore, should not be charged with assault?
I am a strong believer in freedom of speech, but there is a line between speech and physical assault. For example, if I wave a sign saying "You are son of a bitch, BUSH!!!", that would be considered as speech. But if I try to hit bush with my anti-bush sign, that would be considered as assault.
If he waved his shoes with soles facing Bush while shouting "This is a farewell kiss from us, you dog!", that would be part of speech. But he crossed the line when he threw the shoes at bush. Islam didn't say throwing shoes is considered as an insult (not counting the common sense that all assaults are insults by default anyway). Islam said just showing the sole of a shoe is considered to be an insult.
That's why I think the journalist deserved a couple of days in jail, but definitely don't deserve the torture (if happened) and the ridiculous long sentence. Hell, Bush and Iraq leaders should pardon him for goodness sake. His current situation with trial and harsh condition (if happened) in jail is completely unwarranted.
The praise for an assault on another person made me a little nervous, and I seriously hope that both Americans and Arabs don't get the wrong idea that assaulting other people can be considered as speech. - inactive, on 12/31/2008, -0/+2Have any clue what would have happened to this guy if he would have tried that ***** under the previous goverment?
I'll give you a hint - it wouldn't have ended with his torture and death because then it would be the rape squads visiting his mother and sisters. - sadisticmind, on 12/30/2008, -1/+3They neved said funny puns at my old school
- WELLDOITLIVE, on 12/30/2008, -1/+3They should make a site like rockpapersaddam.com with this guy
- dustbowl, on 12/30/2008, -4/+6Hey, at least they found the shoe that was thrown.
The US invaded Iraq and couldn't find WMDs, and look what it did for everyone. A good amount of NOTHING.
Its preposterous how this was done, 'for the future'. Is Iraq such a strategic piece of land that it will make a difference in another 40 years? - Skishy101, on 12/31/2008, -0/+2I would say unfortunately people would agree with you. CNN was reporting on how Laura Bush was defending George's presidency and commented on how that incident was a good thing because the man felt free enough to throw his shoe.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+2http://www.instantrimshot.com/
- SteveMTyler, on 12/31/2008, -0/+2you're right, they should torture everyone and then say "but but but Saddam..."
- Barackalypse, on 12/30/2008, -3/+5What is it with people in the Middle East throwing ineffective objects at things that can easily kill them? Throwing something at the President seems like a pretty sure way to get shot by the Secret Service, and then we've got Palestine which seems to be full of people either chucking rocks at tanks or lobbing horribly imprecise rockets at a country which has the most powerful military in the region and has shown itself quite willing to use it.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -3/+5There is a base level of respect that every human being should have for one another. Obviously, throwing shows is not acceptable in normal discourse. However, George W. Bush is so stunningly incompetent at doing anything beneficial to humanity, he has sunk below that base level, closer to the "War Crimes Tribunal" Level.
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