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- richgustavson, on 10/11/2007, -11/+599Why does this law not consider women sleeping with drunk men rape? Sounds kind of sexist to me. This law suggests women are unable to make a decision by themselves about who to sleep with and also suggests that only women make bad decisons while drunk.
BTW, what happened to personal responsibility? If a woman is physically capable of giving consent, why is the man now at risk of punishment? Does he now have to consider if the woman is in the right state of mind while making the decision of whether or not to give consent? I think getting the condom wrapper off is enough trouble for one night. - sockpuppets, on 10/11/2007, -7/+392I think I raped myself the other night. Damn ye Jack Daniels, damn ye to hell!
- smoothmedia, on 10/11/2007, -4/+291What a horribly unjust law. If a drunken man has sex with a sober woman, can she be charged aswell?
What about instances where both parties are drunk? Is only the man responsible?
complete bull - mrgreenjeans, on 10/11/2007, -19/+215"The new law places a heavy responsibility on men to be certain that a woman is sober enough to know what she is doing."
Be sure to slap some sense into her first. - AnotherThought, on 10/11/2007, -2/+134so now all those movies that showed ppl waking up next day founding out they were in someone else's bed will be considered a post-rape scene..thus making all those silly pg movies R now?
- Pseudorious, on 10/11/2007, -1/+111What if the man is also drunk? Is it mutual rape?
- silverchrysalis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+109consensual rape
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+105@richgustavson
I guess this means, we can all get drunk and rob banks and just blame the alcohol and not our actions, we didn't know what we were doing, right?
womens lib should start tearing these rules apart - jeffiek, on 10/11/2007, -3/+95Let me see if I've got this right. Woman plans on going out for the evening. Spends an ungodly number of hours getting dressed. She's smart enough to know what shoes go with which dress and what make up to wear. She's smart enough to know that it's dangerous to drink and drive. So she doesn't drive.
But she's too dumb to figure out what might happen when she goes home drunk with a guy. Huh!?!?!?!?!
Wait, now I understand. I just gave a rational analysis. What was I thinking? I'm a man, I'm rational. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+89Its been rape in Canada for years, anyone who cannot consent to sex whether they be intoxicated, asleep or under age, is illegal.
Unfortunately, if they pass this law it will only apply to men. - CraigCarlyle, on 10/11/2007, -5/+73"The new law places a heavy responsibility on men to be certain that a woman is sober enough to know what she is doing."
Or the woman could have the responsibility of not getting *****-faced around men likely to take advantage of her. - icantdrawanime, on 10/11/2007, -5/+70federal government: 50
personal responsibility: 0 - GirthAgain, on 10/11/2007, -5/+65Now where is my breathalyser? Ahhhh. Here is is.
- MercedRocks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+56From the article:
George McAuley, chairman of the UK Men's Movement, said men may have to resort to obtaining written 'contracts' or using mobile phones to film their partners consenting to sex.
He said: "It means men will have to get a consent form signed, dated and countersigned in triplicate before they make love. This legislation is deliberately designed to put more men behind bars."
___________And to think I thought the US had a monopoly on stupid laws. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+54@stigma
i think you need to take out "drunk" in that sentence - noots, on 10/11/2007, -4/+57so basically, women will have a couple of drinks, go home with a dude, ***** him. And then call it rape in the morning.... how are people supposed to prove innocence/guilty in this?
- anaesthetica, on 10/11/2007, -2/+50Girls Gone Wild is 99% fake combined with brilliant marketing. Please don't use it as an example.
- Daedalus81, on 10/11/2007, -3/+49A gentleman never takes advantage of a drunk woman. Oh yea that's right...women killed chivalry. What was I thinking?!
- adml_shake, on 10/11/2007, -5/+48@richgustavson
Because the way the rape laws are set up the burden of proof is actually on the person being accused. It's very bias against the man. - VIrus9, on 10/11/2007, -4/+46This is absolutely ridiculous. People need to accept more responsibility for themselves and not get ***** to begin with.
- okie4life, on 10/11/2007, -10/+52OK, I am a woman, and when I spend two hours getting ready, another two hours dancing, sweating, and drinking. You had better take my ass to your house or mine or hell even a hotel because if I wake up in the morning and have a hangover but didn't get no booty, im gonna be a pissed of hung over bleary eyed bitch.
- Theli, on 10/11/2007, -1/+38From article:
"There were nearly 15,000 allegations of rape in 2005, but only 12 per cent of these went to court and only a handful resulted in convictions."
So, it's a statistical problem with a statistical solution. Too few people are convicted so we have to make up some new law to increase the number. Practicality and common sense be damned!
If I were enter a bank and ask for a withdrawal and the bank teller was slightly drunk, does that make me a bank robber?
If I were to buy a car from a uses car dealership and the salesman had a few drinks before I arrived, would that classify as grand theft auto?
If I had a few beers before deciding to take a drive in my car and I get pulled over by the police, could I say: It's not my fault, officer... I did not consent to drive this car. I am drunk, you see.
Since when was the burden of responsibility shifted away from the person getting drunk? - noogiewoo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+41what a load of *****.
- Theli, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35@Chiliap2
"Because its a crapload harder to rape a man if you're a woman then vice versa. I haven't heard of any cases of woman-to-man-while-drunk rape, so why make it a law?"
Eh... because it's still possible. Because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it couldn't or haven't happened.
Killing someone with a toothpick may be very difficult, but if you succeed in doing so it would still be murder. It's not as if you get acquitted based on achievement. - Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -0/+33Simple solution: outlaw drinking for women. Bitch needs to be sober to make my breakfast anyway.
- Hojohto, on 10/11/2007, -1/+31It's a good thing I prefer girls when they're sober.
- bhattsan, on 10/11/2007, -6/+34@richgustavson (#7267174)
Remember, ALL MEN ARE EVIL!! women would never do such a terrible thing to a man! - kapsar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27I believe there are two types of whiskey dick... one good sort of... and one bad. Bad one, can't get it up, sort of good one, you can go for hours but can't get off.
- richgustavson, on 10/11/2007, -6/+32Not all men...not trying to brag, but I've been drunk to the point of almost not being able to stand up and I've never had trouble getting it up.
That's not really the point though. This law aims to make currently legal consensual sex a crime. It is patronizing to women by saying that they cannot possibly make the right decison after having a few drinks and that the decision to have sex is never the right one.
It has good intentions, namely trying to cut down on date rape incidents. But all it will do is make more MEN victims by allowing litigious women to press charges on men because they made a decison that they regreted later. - WasabiBomb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+25Lemme see if I've got this straight...
If a woman drinks and then drives her car into a busload of nuns, she's responsible for her actions. But if a woman gets drunk and then has sex, the man is responsible for her actions.
Gotcha. - jesslabz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+25"At the moment, a drunken woman is deemed to be capable of giving consent so long as she is not unconscious."
as it should be! and i say this as a girl. it is my responsibility if i choose to go out and get wasted and consent to sex i would regret while sober. - porterfield, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27Or maybe, just maybe, if women don't want to be "raped," they should not go out and get hammered to the point of absolute incoherence? As far as I'm concerned, if you put yourself out there like that and deliberately cause yourself to lose the ability to make your own decisions, it's your own damn fault if you go have regrettable sex.
- jessdub99, on 10/11/2007, -8/+32Yea, what if you catch the early flight home from San Diego and a couple of nude people jump out of your bathroom blindfolded like a goddamn magic show ready to double team your girlfriend? Is that rape?
- Yez70, on 10/11/2007, -2/+26What if you're both drunk?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+28its a guy :P
- bdub92, on 10/11/2007, -2/+26There goes my sex life...
- SenatorLampoon, on 10/11/2007, -6/+28Oh. So it's OK for a guy to get drunk enough for an ugly girl to look good, but not the other way around?
I can't believe the feminazis would allow this to happen to them. - Vicissidude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23Yeah, how does the law intend to enforce this? By the time the morning has come around, there's little alcohol left in the system. So, we're supposed to take her at her word that she was drunk the night before when sex occurred?
Further, what level of drunkenness are we talking about? Any alcohol in your system or only falling-down drunk? Take a swig of cough syrup and you count? A glass of wine? Or a six pack? Are we going to have to make sure she's under 0.08 before we get it on? Just how are we going to measure that?
Also, what about if the man is drunk too? If the woman can get drunk enough to not "know what she is doing" and not take responsibility, then certainly men can get that drunk as well. If both parties are drunk, why just blame the man? - spyd3rweb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20the next headline on digg will be 'Fat chicks committing suicide, because no man will sex them'
take away the alcohol and 75% of women wont get laid. - dani8559, on 10/11/2007, -8/+27One the one hand, the law makes complete sense. You can't sign a document when you're drunk, why have sex with someone who is drunk and may possibly use your encounter against you? If you don't know the person well enough to trust them, you shouldn't be having drunken sex with them, and this goes both ways. For instance, what if she's passed out? Chances are the next day she won't know whether or not she gave consent - which she couldn't passed out, either. What if she gave consent, but can't remember the next day, and in retrospect wouldn't have either way?
Another thing rape victims often also express after the fact is that they are often so scared, or traumatized, that they just shut off and put their mind somewhere else. This often leads to rape where the woman does not give express consent, but is rendered physically incapable of stopping the situation. Liquor really doesn't help this at all. These are things you should consider before laying someone when they are drunk and you are not. You have a physical and psychological advantage over them.
On the other hand, the law is completely unfair because it doesn't go both ways. Yes, women get raped more than men. It's just a by-product of our culture's depiction of women, power, and responsibility. But men DO get raped, and more often than not, it's because he's in a position where he can be overcome.. aka liquored up. And men experience these same exact things, and are equally -if not more- traumatized, because they often have fewer people who can empathize with them, feel alone in their situation, and don't have the law or government resources on their side when seeking conviction or therapy. It's really unfortunate and a complete double standard that it doesn't go both ways. - Konrad9, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18A few months ago there was a story on digg about a judge that ruled sex with a drunk woman can't always be considered rape.
Why isn't he involved with this decision?
By which I mean to say:
Why isn't someone with an ounce of common ***** sense involved with this decision? - Racerx52, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Yes... Because GGW is real.
CSI is also real investigations. - kolobcreek, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18The law will never work. There are a so many cases when the guy will be able to say...
"You're honor I plead not guilty due to insanity." "Seriously your honor look at her. I must have been insanely drunk to have sex with a woman that ugly" - Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16This is an outrage.
Ugly people of the world unite. - Caleb83, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15If you're old enough to have consensual sex (this excludes minors, I won't bother to debate if 17 year olds are capable of this), and you're old enough to buy and drink alcohol... Then you should take some responsibility. If alcohol is a free ticket to irresponsibility, then maybe it's not these loose women that are the problem, it's alcohol. But that's another rant for another time. Women want equal rights, but what's equal about this?
- argonauta, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15wow, and I thought this video was just comedy, but it seems this is our future:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MInsLIzLQe8 - Konrad9, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Found it.
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/It_s_not_always_rape_if_a_woman_is_drunk_says_judge - Coven, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16Its called Whiskey Dick. Not a fun experience.
- nwoantibody, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15And for the times where you wake up with a cow sleeping next to you.
They should put those bitches in jail also.
She used my vulnerability.
snif snif
Evil cow! You knew I couldn't tell you were that ugly!
Come on guys... What kind of stupid joke is this? Who the ***** came up with this idea anyways. If she doesn't want to get *****... then don't drink to the extent that you're licking the pole with you labia minora. - smoothmedia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13apparently neither
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