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- billalbertson, on 11/04/2009, -11/+1487The irony is that this "secret" document is only secret in the US by order of the President. In France, also considering ACTA, this document is available for public viewing and comment. I find it ironic that the administration that promised more open and honest communication has championed an international treaty that has an intention of destroying one of the greatest marvels of the modern world- the internet- by way of secrecy and backroom dealing in ways that might even be considered unconstitutional if enacted as a federal law.
- swantamer, on 11/04/2009, -4/+568sounds pretty much unrealistic. my beef is with the obama administration claiming "national security" to block access. seriously, we NEED a law to puts a massive criminal penalty and attaches both jail time and a fine for any individual in government who abuses the executive privilege of "national security"
- macmcraeart, on 11/04/2009, -11/+563the us government has about as much hope of policing the intrawebz as they have of stopping illegal immigrants.
- doctechnical, on 11/04/2009, -21/+522"I find it ironic that the administration that promised more open and honest communication..."
Irony? *****. We were lied to. Openly and purposefully, in order to garner votes. It's called politics. To think Obama is any less of a politician or any more honest than the average political weasel is the zenith of naivete. - Expl0siv0, on 11/04/2009, -10/+490sonofabitch
- mkauai, on 11/04/2009, -82/+513Join the r3VOLution and help us fight these crony corporatist beasts, It's not Democrat vs Republican, Left vs Right, Liberal vs Conservative... there is no more two-party system, they are ALL controlled by Wall Street and the exact same corporations that support one support the other (Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, UBS AG)! Wake up and realize it's Corruption vs YOU and your RIGHTS!
For those with thick skins, the crucible is here:
http://www.libertyforest.com
GO. GRASS. ROOTS! - Woofermazing, on 11/04/2009, -6/+432I voted for Obama because he said he wouldn't do this. :-(
- zephc, on 11/04/2009, -7/+390Unenforceable
- Arkveld, on 11/04/2009, -2/+346What.The.Hell.
Seriously, and they're planning to force it on the rest of the world as well.
I don't know what else to say. - birbseed, on 11/04/2009, -30/+330Ahhh Hope and Change.
- SpiderTeets, on 11/04/2009, -2/+283why is this a secret document hidden from the citizens?
since when are we the enemy? - eviltandem, on 11/04/2009, -3/+264Brought to you by the directors of "sue your customers" and "downloading makes jesus cry".
Using the SAME rules and ideas that has resulted in such stunning victories for the content industry - the content industry goes international! Now you too will no longer be able to download content via-p2p rest of the world, muahahahaha! They've fixed this problem in the US. No more downloading here.
Sure this has never worked before - but surely if we write it down on an entirely NEW piece of paper then reality will turn around any day. They couldn't effectively sue and manage 300,000,000 Americans. Surely ISP's will be able to though!
The stupid is so pure it burns. - borez, on 11/04/2009, -4/+244The entertainment industry... ***** up peoples entertainment the world over.
- alpha88, on 11/04/2009, -10/+245It won't happen. Impossible to enforce, and just blatantly retarded.
- PiddlyD, on 11/04/2009, -16/+243Ok... anyone who thinks this has anything to do with any decision Obama wants to or thought he COULD make going into this... or who thinks that the US has anything to do with this law being enforced in Canada, or... where ever...
pull your head out of your ass.
This is about multi-billion dollar global corporations manipulating world governments as little more than puppet figureheads. Obama... will comply, Canada... will comply. And these companies have this kind of power because WE collectively fund their ability to abuse us, a single $.99 track at a time... a single $19.99 movie at a time. Linux guys have been busy screaming about what evil bastards Microsoft are for the last 3 decades - but it turns out Microsoft is pretty benevolent.
People in general are ignorant sheep and will not stop walking the path they are headed down, though - so the thought of change is pretty hopeless. You're not going to stop buying music, going to movies, supporting the RIAA and MPAA. You'll be in line for the heartwarming Christmas blockbusters, and then again from the action packed summer blockbusters - no matter how badly they suck.
And those industries will use the profits from those seasons to continue to pass draconian, oppressive laws that protect their interests while eroding your liberties.
Obama is just a mouth-piece, just like Bush W. was. Welcome to reality, kids. - StripeyMagee, on 11/04/2009, -1/+196You only become the enemy when you start asking questions.
- Jcink, on 11/04/2009, -4/+196Government should be transparent.
Government should be participatory.
Government should be collaborative.
OOPS. - cryonix, on 11/04/2009, -3/+186FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
- kernel16, on 11/04/2009, -5/+165WOW WOW WOW, You keep your ***** ***** laws within the US! Don't try and force this ***** down Canada.
- Someb0dy, on 11/04/2009, -7/+166Does this mean we can't do the following any more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
Better make the most of it. - spongya77, on 11/04/2009, -1/+159It's is really scary how much the entertainment industry forces politicians to rape every single principle of a democratic society in a misguided fight for their profits.
- LinuxLiberty, on 11/04/2009, -5/+141The modern interpretation of copyright laws is that publishers (not really authors) have an absolute right to their work and the government should protect this right at all cost. This is alien to the Constitution says, " To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries". Notice the goal, "To promote the Progress of Science" and "securing for LIMITED times..". Copyright was intended to promote the public good. Think of it the same way the government builds roads, it builds the road for the public. Since roads are not free, the government creates an incentive system to get the road built. They use a competitive bidding system to get the highest quality road for the lowest price. However the road is built for the public, not the construction company that builds the road.
Think of the copyright the same way, only the government is trading away some of our freedom, instead of tax money, to accomplish the same goal. To use the road analogy, imagine if the government said, the goal of building this road is to enrich the construction companies not to benefit the public, that while the public was forced to give up some freedom to get the road built they have absolutely no right to use it the way they want. That is the current copyright system. I'm not saying there isn't the justification for some copyright laws, but the laws in their current form, grossly violate the public's rights and are completely unconstitutional. - sylian, on 11/04/2009, -3/+136You are not the enemy, just a slave that should shut up.
- bbr4nd0n, on 11/04/2009, -0/+11619th century ideology meets 21st century technology.
- GUYRAZER, on 11/04/2009, -12/+127Rockefeller will do anything to cover his criminal arse!
- rmxz, on 11/04/2009, -17/+132I sometimes wonder if Obama genuinely believed in all his "change", "open", "end wars", "close guantanamo" stuff; only to find out later that the president's really just a puppet/figurehead of whatever industries actually run the government.
That might explain how he sounded so convincing in his speeches. - OriginalLucid1, on 11/04/2009, -15/+129Did you learn anything? (I Doubt it)
- WoollyMittens, on 11/04/2009, -6/+112Obvious troll is obvious.
- directedition, on 11/04/2009, -0/+101Oh, I get it. It was a "national security" concern because of the public outrage that this would stir up.
- jivatmanx, on 11/04/2009, -8/+109Change You Can Believe In®
- scottpigeon, on 11/04/2009, -9/+107I had a black coworker call me racist for not voting for Obama. Yet he couldn't name one of his political stances, other than "hope and change". In other words, he is the one that voted based on skin color. I get the impression many of the 96% did.
- 5thdigg, on 11/04/2009, -5/+97Looks like someone is getting one less vote in 3 years.
- holychicken, on 11/04/2009, -0/+92Doesn't change the fact that what they are trying to do is just plain wrong.
- AngryFox, on 11/04/2009, -9/+84I believe the "zenith of naivete" is thinking that any politician isn't in some way indebted to a well-financed corporate special-interest group.
It's a classic catch-22: take the lobbyist's money = get elected = owe a favor; or, don't take the money = don't get elected = you're out of the game. The public is the loser and the winner is the corporation. Add to that the simple fact that corporations have a much longer life-span than your average politician and you begin to see why things are the way they are. - MagicHobo, on 11/04/2009, -2/+77I'm confused. Are you under the impression that the goverment builds computers and writes operating systems?
- sentry21, on 11/04/2009, -1/+75Eh men brotha.
- cJw314, on 11/04/2009, -3/+76Comment while you can, folks. Comment while you can...
- akumu, on 11/04/2009, -0/+71quickly, we must bring in the google overlords!
- TalahRama, on 11/04/2009, -8/+75Ron Paul is the precipitate.
- iheartbakon, on 11/04/2009, -3/+67████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
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████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ - 5thdigg, on 11/04/2009, -5/+64Why are you being buried? he's absolutely right.
- juliusthecat, on 11/04/2009, -1/+59This surprised you? Joe Biden is his VP. Joe Biden is the bitch of the MPAA / RIAA.
- TrancePhreak, on 11/04/2009, -0/+57Canada, where you already pay extra taxes on blank media that goes straight to the Canadian RIAA/MPAA.
- GoatRoper, on 11/04/2009, -16/+72Lets wait and see more info on a site OTHER than boingboing.net before we get too bent out of shape
- kafka47, on 11/04/2009, -2/+57My sentiment exactly. Oh, you want to criminalize half of what the Internet is good for? OK cool, we'll just enjoy (and popularize) content that you don't own.
And then watch your corporate media ass flounder, fade into obscurity and die. All because you don't "get" how to make money on the Internet. - duewydo, on 11/04/2009, -1/+56It sounds like you are asking questions. So shut up, if you know whats good for you.
- Stingwolf, on 11/04/2009, -1/+53No, he said he was going to make government transparent and open. Instead, he hides behind "national security" to cover up a consumer-unfriendly treaty hand-written by the content cartels. There is NOTHING in this treaty that has ANYTHING to do with national security. If it did, why the Hell are the content cartels able to read it!? Do they have a hand in homeland security policies now?
- Cybrwolf, on 11/04/2009, -0/+52lol, ok I feel stupid for falling for this, AGAIN!
- doctechnical, on 11/04/2009, -3/+54<conspiracy>
True - but perhaps enforcement isn't the point. Perhaps the idea is to enforce it just enough (that is, slapping enough penalties on ISPs) so that the private ISPs decide the liability isn't worth it, and either shut down completely or only carry content from "government approved" sites. After enough ISPs fold this way you have the internet completely controlled by the government. Voila, no more badthink on the interwebs! Ignorance is Strength!
</conspiracy> - bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -1/+50It's a corporatocracy. What do you expect?
The corporations get represented. YOU do not. -
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