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- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -1/+131Keep watching them, people.
It's only us watching that keeps them honest.
(In all fairness I'm not dissing ALL cops, I've met many many good cops. This is about the scumbags.) - lnf69, on 11/14/2007, -2/+96And then they wonder why the ACLU is so important.
Viva ACLU!!! - syroncoda, on 11/14/2007, -2/+68only $8,000? for all the degradation and being treated like a traitor for capturing a public situation? police work for the public you know. they're not a private security firm. well not yet anyways.
- ivandir, on 11/14/2007, -0/+39That's because freedom is universal not selective.
- ncc74656m, on 11/14/2007, -1/+33"Seattle Police Department spokeswoman Deanna Nollette said both officers were disciplined with written reprimands for a lack of professionalism and poor exercise of discretion."
Ok, so, nothing about "Violation of civil rights"? They got away with a slap on the wrist. Blue Wall of Silence strikes again! - aliengoods, on 11/14/2007, -2/+34The problem is you can't tell the good ones from the scumbags.
- pintomp3, on 11/14/2007, -0/+29the bad ones should be given orange jumpsuits.
- flyingcatcircus, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3090% of cops give 10% of cops a bad name.
- RamboBones, on 11/14/2007, -4/+30After reading so many stories about cops doing ***** in the US it's nice to see some not get off scott free for once
- darkhand, on 11/14/2007, -0/+25$8,000?! If this keeps up, people are going to realize they have rights and freedoms! We can't have that!!
- darkhand, on 11/14/2007, -1/+25That's why you watch all of them.
- Elderon, on 11/14/2007, -0/+23Cable, as far as I know, if its in a public spot you can film it regardless what the cops are doing
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -1/+23Read the article. It's informative, and saves time answering stupid comments.
- easyfnmoney, on 11/14/2007, -0/+21WOW, this same thing happened to me several years ago, police took away my camcorder and tape. Returned my camcorder, minus the tape, and they threated to charge me with interfereing in a police investigation. Amazing.
- thebaron2, on 11/14/2007, -0/+19The got "written reprimands for a lack of professionalism and poor exercise of discretion." Not even a suspension or being forced to go to some lame rehabilitation class. A written reprimand ain't *****, and arresting someone for the hell of it certainly deserves more.
- BossKey, on 11/14/2007, -0/+18I find it interesting that a lot of the religious conservatives who hate that the ACLU treats everyone's rights consistently are also the same ones who say that "situational ethics" is evil. Either respect consistency or fight it, but at least...be consistent.
It's much the same argument that Americans are having over torture. I'm on the side that says, if you expect to torture, you won't have a case against the enemy when they decide it's fine to treat our captured the same way. Do unto others, and all that. - MacEnvy, on 11/14/2007, -0/+18I thought that was the picture that got the guy in the article arrested ...
- bagelpirate, on 11/13/2007, -0/+18where do you think?
- Bhima, on 11/13/2007, -0/+17Man with the number of incidents going down this is going to become a multi-million dollar liability for the police.
everyone should go buy a cheap camera and learn to quickly switch the memory cards - mrferg, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16Maybe I'm weird, but I believe that if you abuse your power and betray the public your ass should be fired. Seems that most cops have a serious inferiority complex.
- bjfisel, on 11/14/2007, -2/+17$8,000 is not enough for having your rights violated.
- vertinox, on 11/13/2007, -1/+15Um... Do you know who the ACLU is?
- darkhand, on 11/14/2007, -1/+15Give the ACLU, or even just a lawyer in the phone book a call any time something like that happens. Cut and dry cases where the police are grossly at fault are taken pro bono in many cases. At the very least, no upfront fee and a percentage of the winnings.
- ahammett, on 11/14/2007, -1/+14Considering that the ACLU paid the legal bills, I doubt he sees it that way!
- AnarkeIncarnate, on 11/14/2007, -0/+13It should come RIGHT out of their pay and DIRECTLY to the photographer. The cop should have to write him a check
- Otto, on 11/14/2007, -0/+13Clearly, next time, you should let him arrest you, then call the ACLU. Fact: It is not illegal to film or photograph anything, including police, while in public and on public lands.
- anachronaut, on 11/13/2007, -1/+11Try reading the article first.
- hinchb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10Sadly when the screw up, the taxpayers are the ones that get to pay these settlements. They should really make harsh penalties for cops who randomly arrest people just for photographing them. It's the only way to keep them honest.
- ivandir, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10$8,000 that is how much your freedom is worth to a Cop.
- cablemodemguy, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10The Sheriff's Dept. was pulling people over all day on one stretch of highway. When I came out with my camera to photograph a stop, they crossed the highway and started threatening to arrest me for taking pictures, telling me it was illegal to film police officers while on duty. I told him I was doing nothing wrong, and started taking video, trying not to point it directly at him. He then explained that filming police is "Interfering with judicial proceedings" and he would in fact arrest me if I didn't leave.
- brugger1982, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10I always thought ACLU case == pro bono
- aigulf, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10The ACLU took his case...correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure when they fight for you it is gratis (free).
- bowens44, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9filming in a public location is not illegal this cop was completely out of line. Remember they will lie to you .
- inspecality, on 11/13/2007, -0/+9where do you put the memory cards if you get arrested?
- tman84, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9its funny how most of the west coast is seen as "progressive" yet there are more "police state" violations out there than anywhere else in the country. i guess progress means giving up as many rights as possible to big brother.
thank god for the ACLU - jaxcs, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9don't you think that sound like bs to you? how does filming something from across the highway interfere with their ability to do their job? Interfering is interpreted in the broadest possible sense here.
- bowens44, on 11/14/2007, -1/+9They should have been fired
- jellygraph, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8and all they got was a reprimand... of course...
- darkhand, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8I've already posted this in another reply, but if this is so prevalent it bears repeating. Give the ACLU, or even just a lawyer in the phone book a call any time something like that happens. Cut and dry cases where the police are grossly at fault are taken pro bono in many cases. At the very least, no upfront fee and a percentage of the winnings. What the police did to you (twice) is illegal and unconstitutional.
- biggychong, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Seattle police are corrupt, and this is nothing new for those of us who have followed the local paper The Stranger's reporting.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Home - tracyfm, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7The cops that made the arrest DID get off scott free. This money didn't come out of their pockets.
- tcsucks, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Everytime (two seperate accounts) that I've taken pictures of someone being arrested, I've been threatened with my property being confiscated and being arrested for failure to comply after I told them, "I'm not handing over my property." Both times I was forced to delete the pictures I had taken.
- nanboya, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7"When he was released about an hour later, he said, he was told that he could be charged with disturbing the peace, provoking a riot or endangering a police officer." - what a ***** joke. Your tax dollars hard at work...
- rottencod, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Even if it IS illegal, that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. One duty of free citizens is to disobey immoral or totalitarian laws. The police are in a position of public service, which means they should be in a position of public view -- whether they or the legislature like it or not.
- zirconx, on 11/13/2007, -0/+7I don't know why you are being dug down - sounds like something really crappy (and important) happened to you. Can you tell us more about this indident? The video won't play for me, and there isn't much info on that google video page.
- badbilly, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Kythas,
Cops simply cannot abuse their authority in order to harass a citizen like this.
They should've never even taken him in.
That's the problem- Unchecked and abusive authority have NO PLACE in my country. - Drahkar, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7I wish it were that way out here. Unfortunately the cops in our area tend to lean more towards the 90% bad, 10% good. Too many egomaniacs and testosterone junkies getting on the force.
- DiggzDE, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6Except that it isn't illegal to do so and that you were just fed a bunch of crap by an officer who assumed you knew nothing about the law, which you obviously don't since you said this happened over a year ago and you still didn't bother to check up on the laws in your area.
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?in ... - Toast1185, on 11/14/2007, -1/+7Everyone digging this story should really contribute and be a card carrying member. They can't do all of their good work without the support of people that are passionate and concerned about civil liberties
- aonaran, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6You hand them over to the cop and insist that they be treated as evidence. They are not allowed to destroy evidence, and I imagine that they would get for more than a written reprimand for that, besides they will think it would work in their favor. When it is all over you get the card back, and if you think that what is on it could have been sold to a newspaper you sue them for that lost revenue.
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