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- sdave007, on 10/10/2007, -3/+91Not for the sarcastically challenged!
- CatManDoIt, on 10/10/2007, -8/+82Hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing. It's a gutsy post though as it deals with what are classically hot button issues in the US political system.
- jarjarjanks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+58Yea, I love how freedom of speech is now a "hot button issue," not like a pillar of our democracy or anything like that
- jdaniel284, on 10/10/2007, -5/+55I am basically a Libertarian and an American, but I would love to hear an uncensored speech by President Ahmadinejad.
This guy may very well be a dangerous enemy, but I am not convinced. He is the most misquoted person in American media that I have *EVER* seen in my lifetime. In his native language he says, "I would like the national boundaries of Isreal to be redrawn". Certainly nothing that outrageous. It is then translated to English as, "I would like to wipe Isreal off the map".
Let me man speak and quit spoon-feeding me all the sound bite garbage! - syroncoda, on 10/10/2007, -10/+52haha brilliant. well constructed sarcasm is lost on many in this day in age. lets hope the fanaticals don't take it the wrong way and see the error of their ways.... meh. on second thought, perhaps they wont.
- DooM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+34"And what freedom of speech is he entitled to here in the U.S.?"
That is such douche baggery. This is the same argument that they use to allow the torture of non-citizens. Read just the first couple of paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence will you?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"
This country was founded on the belief that HUMANS have rights. Our founding fathers did NOT write "all men born in the United States or naturalized therein have certain rights".
So wherever you were born you have the right not to be detained without cause or representation, you have freedom to not be tortured, and the freedom to express yourself because that is what being human SHOULD mean. - ninethirty, on 10/10/2007, -4/+36Sadly, not many will understand what he wrote. Good on him for writing it though.
- Napoleone, on 10/10/2007, -12/+42I'm starting to see a deepening trend across the Internet, and papers, motion news and social circles. I see blusterous contempt for the ***** of the power elite, like never before. I hear talk of guns and ammo and insurrection. I see countless open threats against the life of the King we call a president. Wow. What is going on? Are these the signs of an oncoming revolution, or the final pangs of a moribund democracy?
Which is it? The former, or the we're *****? - theghoul, on 10/10/2007, -3/+29What the?
They didn't let him speak? Yet *HE is threatening the *Free world?
Ok , confused I am. - vervalsing, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22Wow.
I did not expect such blunt words from the man who draws Dilbert. - fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25If you think that an armed revolution would work, you need to go get checked out. Unless Bush does something like call off elections, there would never be anywhere close to the massive amount of public support necessary for a revolution to even have a snowball's chance in hell of working. If you want to protest to get him impeached, or something like that, go for it. But saying that we need to start shooting government officials to change the policy of our government is beyond insane.
- jdaniel284, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20No, I am not sure. He very well may have said he wanted to wipe the map. I have heard conflicting translations in the global media, however. I have only heard ONE translation in the American media. I have enough doubt that I would like to hear more. Supressing the guys speech does nothing but make me more suspicious that I am being manipulated by propaganda.
- CannedMango, on 10/10/2007, -5/+25Brave post by Scott Adams... my respect for him is even higher than it was.
Of course they wouldn't let Ahmadinejad speak or look like a human... they're too busy trying to turn him into the next Saddam Hussein. Anything that goes against that Characture must be thrown down immediately.
Now, I'm not on a total Ahmadinejad love in or anything... the guy has some shady military activities in his past and is a bit of a fascist if you ask me. He loves to go around the world and challenge foreign populations about their governments activities, but doesn't seem to mind the un-democratic Islamic ruling group that controls Iranian law. However, there's no way I'm going to take lessons on morality from criminals, so Bush & Cheney, you can go ***** yourselves if you think I'm buying a war with Iran. - theehman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21If the guy wants to place a wreath at the site, then let him.
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21One of the major points of free speech is to allow people to make statements that are utterly ridiculous so that you can point to them as an example of how not to think or act. This is why the KKK should be allowed their rallies to prove tot he rest of us that they are indeed idiots. Making people go underground hurts democracy rather than helps it.
Why was Israel created? It was in response to the Holocaust. And, the US seems to support Israel no matter what happens. It is true that the Palestinians are not helping themselves by some of their actions, but some Israelis seem to think that they can to anything they want and the Palestinians should have no rights. Personally, even though you don't state your views on Israel, I think you are likely ignorant re: Israel if you cannot see the bits truth of what Scott is writing. - crimson117, on 10/10/2007, -5/+24"Ahmadinejad believes his role is to pave the way for the coming of the Twelfth Imam. That's a primitive apocalyptic belief! I thank Jesus I do not live in a country led by a man who believes in that sort of *****. Imagine how dangerous that would be, especially if that man had the launch codes for nuclear weapons."
I lol'd.
Scott hits a lot of good points in this post, though he doesn't reference anything to back up his implied claims. - zombies187, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20Hes talking about renaming the country Palestine. If he wanted to exterminate Jews, he would start with the tens of thousands of Jews who live in Iran.
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22the fact is he (irans president) can come here and say whatever he want and preach peace and tell us he sympathizes with the victims of 9/11 and wants to open dialog with the US but stupid americans will just say oh that is just rhetoric he doesnt believe this, he wants to wipe israel off the map, blah blah blah. it always frustrates me how americans can stare at facts straight in the face and yet ignore them in favor of false propaganda spread by the government through the MSM. this country is doomed.
- TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18A fine, if somewhat blatant use of sarcasm. Sarcasm should always be slightly incognito, in the way that even a smart guy has to double-take in order to be sure of it. Good post.
- DrHyde, on 10/10/2007, -10/+27Wow !
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17lol, when has this country ever been far left much less even left of center? the "liberal" politicians in america are more conservative than the conservatives in europe and australia.
- Ghoztt, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19LMAONAISE! Personally this "OH NOES! Can't talk to our enemies! Cuz they're EVIL!!!111e1even11!11" crap is very, very frightening. It's the most anti-free speech dogma I can think of. We should ALWAYS talk to our enemies. Because even if someone is a liar or evil - whichever side is speaking the truth will shine through no matter what in a debate. Honestly - I think that's what scares the neo-con's the most. If Iranian President Ahmadinejad is allowed to speak from his heart with no news filtering - then the propaganda controls that usually get tagged on to what he says won't be there.
- zombies187, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Why forbid Americans to hear a speech?
- tempusrob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15"Are these the signs of an oncoming revolution, or the final pangs of a moribund democracy?"
More likely, it's just a bunch of Internet Tough Guys. There will be no revolution ... despite our ranting and raving, we, the American populace, are far too apathetic in that regard. - acrodev, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Can't it be both?
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14i have a lot of the same thoughts on the matter, with a little less sarcasm. it's amazing to me to look at the headlines on the newspapers talking about how much we don't want the president of iran to visit ground zero, or even to speak to us. why? all of these same newspapers are running headlines calling him evil and a madman. are you kidding me? what has he done that's so evil? how is anything that this person has done or said more evil than anything done or said by our own leader. pisses me right off.
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.
~ George Orwell - zombies187, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Out! Out! Out demons of ignorance!
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16Educate yourself: http://www.propeller.com/viewstory/2007/01/08/did- ...
Or are you a fluent speaker of Farsi? - joe573, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Iran actually held a candle-light vigil for us when 9-11 happened. I have a feeling he is not the evil ***** our media makes him out to be.
http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm
http://www.bestirantravel.com/culture/wtc-vigil.ht ... - Aggaman, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15He's in real trouble now. He criticized Israel. Everyone knows that is illegal in the USA.
- devindotcom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11That guy swears like a sailor! Who knew?
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13We are a partial democracy. Ever vote for referenda on a local/state ballot? That's direct democracy, baby.
- nblsavage, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12redstate...they had a word for your you and your neocon buddies back in Nazi Germany - collaborators.
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11ninethirty, I present you with Exhibit A.
- zombies187, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11We created a country, attacked a country, and will eventually change the constitution based on someones interpretation of the bible.
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10> "In his native language he says, "I would like the national boundaries of Isreal to be redrawn". Certainly nothing that outrageous. It is then translated to English as, "I would like to wipe Isreal off the map"."
Bzzt! Wrong...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_a ...
--- Quote ---
According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian" and "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) translates the phrase similarly: [T]his regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history.
--- End Quote --- - quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13i wouldnt put it past bush, all it would take is for him to have a dream about it and mistake it for god communicating to him.
- sandyiit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Well written an point well made. People need to see the other side of things. It should not always be that I am right and its my way or the high way.
- Pile, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11He's only an enemy because the talking heads on television say so. In reality very few of us have any personal experience.
The intelligent thing to do would be to not make up your mind about people like this based on some biased government official or news idiot. - Pile, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10If you knew more about what you were talking about, you'd understand that a fatwah can only be made toward Muslims/Ex-Muslims.
- cranium, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10OMG! He called for regime change in a foreign country!
Why is that so outrageous? The US does it all the time, we even forced one in Iran. - stealth658, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Follow up: http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/20 ...
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Gee, it's a good thing our president never uses propaganda to get what he wants.
WTF? "Do as I say, not as I do" is bad foreign policy. - euphemizeme, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Anybody with an 8th grade education (even a U.S. public one) can decipher the sarcasm in this post. It's positively dripping with it. I'm sick of Diggers who take it upon themselves to point out the obvious and assume they're part of some elite minority with the brains to identify it.
FYI: A lot of the people who post ignorant things on here, such as appearing to take sarcastic things in a literal sense, are TROLLING. And it makes you look like an idiot when you call them out on it. - catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Don't mistake kids posting on the internet as some kind of real revolutionary movement. People will say all kinds of things on the internet but it usually doesn't translate to real life.
- ironhide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7sarcasm...look it up.
- Beeryan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7both broken links..... into the abyss you go
- ironhide, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10I just read that proliance likes sleeping with little boys. Can someone clarify this?
- digsig, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Everyone who criticizes Scott Adams on this does what the american government does best.
Telling everyone to choose one side over the other, and that war is inevitable.
I'm neither with you, neither with Iran. Why is this so difficult to grasp? Why do i have to hear your rant, but you refuse the representative of 70 million people the right to speak freely, so i can hear his point of view.
As to what he says about Israel, he's spot on. Why the ***** do Jewish americans call him anti-semitic anyway. He didn't speak out against Judaism, he did so against Israel. Israel has used the Holocaust to further it's agenda so much, this rant by israelis rings hollow. And why is it illegal to question the Holocaust as a historic fact, but people can deny that the creation of Israel was planned by zionists, and caused the displacement of millions of Palestians, when even israeli historians agree on it as fact? -
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