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Saddam Hussein Is Sentenced to Death by Hanging

nytimes.com — Iraq's High Tribunal found Saddam Hussein guilty of crimes against humanity on Sunday and sentenced him to die by hanging.

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  • noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -13/+196The verdict itself is no surprise; let's wait and see if they actually follow through.
    • guregu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+145CNN International is stating that if Saddam loses his appeal, he must be executed within 30 days.
    • JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -10/+49@ guregu

      That is correct, even if, in 30 days, he is in trial on an appeal. Wonder if it will actually happen.
    • noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -7/+69Whoops. Excuse me for being an uninformed attention whore. I guess I'm still cynical from the whole Milosevic fiasco.
    • JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40@ noreturn:

      No offense intended, just adding what I had heard. I myself wonder if it will be carried out. The next 30 days will be dark ones, regardless of the outcome. I hope that there is minimal violence as a result of the sentence, although the current state of things seems to suggest otherwise. I hope for the best for those unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in the following days.
    • Schpariel, on 10/12/2007, -149/+467I want George W Bush to be hanged for the same crimes.
    • alex.will, on 10/12/2007, -114/+459Saddam Hussein: Sentenced to death for the 1982 killings of 148 Iraqi people in the town of Dujail.

      G.W. Bush: President of the most powerful nation on earth after presiding over an illegal war based on lies that has killed over 650,000 Iraqi civilians.
    • eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -10/+95"...former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a memorandum in which he called the trial a travesty." !
    • MajorD, on 10/12/2007, -86/+33Now if only we could find a way to exterminate all of the *real dirtbags in America who sit in prison on death row and enjoy all of our tax paying dollars. 30 days - please bring it to America.
    • ssanders, on 10/12/2007, -22/+217Fantastic... can we bring home the troops now?
    • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -74/+131Lets hang Bush too. I thought your country gave the death penalty for the killing of ONE let alone 655 000.
    • Dundasbro, on 10/12/2007, -45/+75Hanging is a little medieval isn't it? You would think that they would have a more humane way to execute people
    • rebuilder, on 10/12/2007, -26/+262"Hanging is a little medieval isn't it?"

      Yea, unlike execution in general.
    • markob, on 10/12/2007, -51/+36Bush is probably getting a hardon right now.
    • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -47/+27Yep. This isn't about justice for the Iraqi people it is just entertainment for George W Bush and his father.
    • Orbatos, on 10/12/2007, -14/+31A proper hanging may be judged as similarly humane to many other accepted methods of execution, assuming you regard any as reflecting a shred of humanity.
    • ssanders, on 10/12/2007, -34/+18Let's just hope they don't put Bush in charge of finding the rope to hang him.
    • Nistavar, on 10/12/2007, -20/+177Can't wait to see it on Youtube! ^_^
    • Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -22/+10@ssanders: Who said anything about ropes? GW is Fedex-ing a roll of piano wire right now as we speak.
    • RangerRuss, on 10/12/2007, -28/+20@ Scharpiel

      Don't ask for help from the US when a dictator like that takes over your country and starts killing and torturing people in your house and neighborhood at random, possibly even targeting your house, doesn't matter, dictators like him thought they were invincible and did what they wanted- "absolute power corrupts absolutely"

      BTW, I looked at your website http://smfadi.googlepages.com/paranormalstuff

      funny the next article down from this one on the front page is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-x4iJM2aU4
    • littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -15/+45Hmmm. The timing of the verdict hitting the US News Cycle, November 5th, somehow seems suspect to me. I just can't put my finger on it.
    • cdahlkvist, on 10/12/2007, -7/+39I suppose that lessens our chances of ever seeing Saddam: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Iraq
    • fraggle35, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23Wonder which network will pay the most for the exclusive.
    • Schpariel, on 10/12/2007, -20/+40@RangerRuss:

      Thanks for the tip, my country IS controlled by an "evil dictator". And I would never ask the US to liberate me, I'm happy and my life is better than most Iraqis right now. And OMGWTF I can POST ON DIGG and browse the internets freely!!

      The price of total freedom in Iraq was too high.. Societies evolve and adopt democracy when they're ready for it, "Liberating" and forcing democracy upon any country is BS.

      It would take a very long time to make Iraq stable again.
    • bliz, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1@ssanders:"Let's just hope they don't put Bush in charge of finding the rope to hang him."

      that would be mean a reprieve!
    • dime, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28"Hanging is a little medieval isn't it? You would think that they would have a more humane way to execute people"

      ... because a region that chops your hands off for stealing is concerned with being humane...
    • AlwaysDuggDown, on 10/12/2007, -37/+19Dictator who consistently ordered the torture and execution of his political opponents, gassed his own people, filled mass graves and violated 13 UN resolutions equated with President Bush, who has used his military to remove 2 of the most brutal regimes and supporters of terrorism in the world. My guess is that you are all a bunch of high school and college geeks who haven't enough experience in the world to know exactly how wonderful you have it.

      Only on Digg folks, only on Digg. Geez I wish you guys had a louder microphone to the rest of the world, instead of just this echo-chamber of hatred for the President.

      Instead, we just have to pray that the DNC actually lets Dean, Pelosi, Ried or Kerry actually speak prior to the elections....
    • AlwaysDuggDown, on 10/12/2007, -28/+16@ schpariel

      "You can't force democracy on people..."

      Um...tell that to Germany (East and West! LOL), Japan, South Korea, etc. The ability for the liberal left to consistently underestimate the desire of peoples to be free from government control simply amazes me.
    • foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -10/+39"I want George W Bush to be hanged for the same crimes."
      Expect a visit from the FBI. That girl who said "Kill Bush" on her MySpace got a visit. Just be on the guard.
    • lswinney2, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4Schpariel and thomasprebble, I hope you two get convicted and executed for treason.
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+37saddam was evil no doubt
      but the trial was a joke
      Someone explain why he isnt in the hague..
      Saddam had many of his lawyers killed, he is being tried by the very people he hurt... and charged with "crimes against humanity" and yet wasnt tried by the world court? TO use a tony snow remark.. i mean come on. WE should at least act like we are being fair. I have no doubt the hague would find him guilty, that isnt the point. and no i dont give a crap about saddam, that also isnt the point. It is americans image of freedom and fairness that is the point. That is why a fomer US attorney Gerneral was the lawyer on saddams side, not that he supported saddam but he actually believed in the rule of law and that even the worst people on the planet deserve a fair trial..
      ALso the us is the only non thrid world nation with the death penalty.. it is barbaric to become evil to fight evil. It justifies killing and i think that is the main reason he is not in the hague.
      also like you hear so often from both sides in this election, the timing is rather suspcious
      we will hear nothing but how this is a turning point right up till we vote
    • 23r17i05o42n, on 10/12/2007, -25/+11Cry, liberals, cry! Keep defending murderous dictators, clueless twits.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -15/+8The verdict is no surprise, because it was reached two weeks ago and held until two days before the US midterms.
    • nobodyshero, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28"Hanging is a little medieval isn't it?"

      No more so than, say, feeding your enemies feet first through a plastic shredder.
    • Awap, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22@nobodyshero
      Actually I think plastic shredders are a pretty recent invention.
    • juicethegoose, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"Expect a visit from the FBI. That girl who said "Kill Bush" on her MySpace got a visit. Just be on the guard."

      Ahhh, that's where the beauty of Tor really shines :)

      You can say anything you want without consequence.

      Hooray for freedom!
    • pile0nades, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Off-topic but funny: http://www.rockpapersaddam.com/
    • JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21@AlwaysDuggDown: What kind of hole do you live in, exactly? Bush didn't stop two terrorist regimes: He created a terrorist fun-house (Iraq), and started withdrawal from Afghanistan long before the Taliban was gone. Sure, we killed a bunch of heads of state, but the Taliban is still very much in control of the country. The job in Afghanistan simply wasn't done before Bush started on Iraq.

      Besides, this War of Terror has killed more Iraqi civilians than Saddam ever did (using our weapons, mind you).
    • Daedalus81, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Yea, lets ignore the gassing of the kurds, torture, and murdered political prisoners.
    • Soldan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7He has 0% chance of not getting executed... I just hope its not putting more fuel on the flames over there..
    • kolobcreek, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7@Schpariel has a soft spot in his heart for tyranny and dictators that gas woman and children.
    • Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Most interesting comment I noted in the article.....a key element in Hussein's conviction was his execution of proported would-be assassins....which he claimed was legal because the country was at war with Iran....and special security and punishment was permitted while at war.

      I see it's already been noted above.
    • darkamster07, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2death by hanging seems a little 1930s-ish, I am just worried that his death might spark a rise in terrorism in Iraq, I don't think so though, even if he was buds with terrorists, I don't think they give a ***** if he lives or dies
    • kevxross, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Cry, liberals, cry! Keep defending murderous dictators, clueless twits."

      The only ones doing that are the ones like you who are defending Bush. Nobody is defending Hussein, everyone knows he deserves to be hung. People are just pointing out the fact that Bush is almost as bad.
    • TehMasterer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Pwned
    • goofporter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2 A town defied Saddam, He wrecked, destroyed, leveled wiped out the town, he imprisoned the leaders, he killed many of them, he tortured some of then. Does this sound, in any way, like the way the US treated Fallujah.
      I should be in the docks at La Hague. I failed to stop the maniac who acts in my name.;
      Does the fsct that Saddam was convicted and sentenced two days before the US midterm elections ring any bells?

      Dick
      It is not so much that i love peace as that I hate wars that bring us no benefit.
    • cpbrown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they just have followed it through. apparently.
  • MidnightWatcher, on 10/12/2007, -52/+17Well Saddam, you might get a chance to see Uday and Qusay again. Not many fish though in the Lake of Fire.
    • eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -8/+103But think of the wonderful relationship he and Satan will have in the coming years.
    • dainbramage559, on 10/12/2007, -8/+62Satan: *seeing Saddam raise a dildo* Oh c'mon, you know that's inappropriate.
      Saddam: C'mon! It's fake! *throws out dildo*
    • exoendo, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3[digg down, replied in wrong area]
    • 4wheel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I sure hope they televise it.
  • guregu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22He has automatically appealed.
    • JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30One of the stipulations of the verdict is that it must be carried out in 30 days - even if he is currently appealing the decision.
    • mks06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22The appeal is an automatic part of the process. Once the trial is over the appeal is the next step, mainly concentration on the process and fairness of the trial. It wasn't his decision, it's the way the system works over there.
    • foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Why does he? If I was hated by an entire country, I would just want my life over with.
    • Javamancer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4@foolfromhell: And that's exactly why the death penalty is too easy a punishment for him. He's an old man, I'd guess he's only got a decade or two left anyway, knocking those few years off is nothing really compared to what he's done.

      Let him rot in an Iraqi jail, where he can be abused and humiltiated day in and day out for the rest of his life.
    • scott1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The automatic appeal process is just so that they don't have to go throw all the trouble of filling for an appeal so they can kill him sooner.
    • exoendo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3"The automatic appeal process is just so that they don't have to go throw all the trouble of filling for an appeal so they can kill him sooner."

      um... no.

      We have an automatic appeals process in our country as well.. and sometimes it still takes decades for one to be executued.

      It assues that someone with a bad attorney etc stilll gets to have their case appealed, automatically, leaving nothing to chance or paperwork to slip through the cracks.
    • michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5Saddam dead.
      Osama alive.

      That about sums up our response to 9/11

      If anything the timing of this highlights that our Prez chose to go after the wrong guy after 9/11.

      Dems should be drilling this home in their ads. Too bad some of them voted to give prex authorization in Iraq. Doh!

      we're screwed.
  • Chrysalid, on 10/12/2007, -23/+8Justice has taken place, but what will be the consequences...
  • Chaser12, on 10/12/2007, -8/+213http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5781/omgmc5.png

    Holy ***** wtf.
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -7/+82my thoughts exactly. i thought about posting this story just now as well, but figured it would be good to check first. looks like all the other asshats just couldnt stand being beaten to the punch.
    • JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -98/+5...says the asshat that admits he "thought about posting this story just now as well."
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -12/+74uhhhh. i didnt post the damn story did i? an asshat is someone who actually did without without checking and showing respect for the others that came first
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -62/+4looks you your just pissed i called you out


    • JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -58/+4Yep, that's it exactly, you got me, caught me red handed. Now go find something more productive to do other than follow up on your own replies, cool guy.
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -56/+8isn't part of digg to keep assholes like you in check. and arent you just doing the same thing. pot-kettle-black
    • JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -52/+2Wow, your a last word freak as well. Your list of appealing personality traits just keeps getting longer.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -33/+12I almost submitted it too... just saw it on Metafilter.
      And JHawk, go back to Fark.
    • oskite, on 10/12/2007, -31/+18All of you shut the hell up.
    • ggko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40Some people don't bother to search, plain and simple. I can understand the first few ... you check, see no stories, and while you're typing up your submission, 3 others are doing the same.

      But the story is over a half hour old and people are still submitting it.
    • MrZop, on 10/12/2007, -12/+41I know i'll get Dugg down. But seriously, you people bitch and complain about all the dupes. Yet when somebody posts a dupe link to the original story you say "***** You" or "Nobody Cares" and that link gets dugg down like -35. yet you bitch about all the dupes, you don't support the original. and if you don't support the original, people will always submit obvious dupes hoping they get front page instead of the original.

      anyway. glad he's going to be "Apple-Tree'd'
    • eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28half an hour is nothing! this will be going on for the next 12 hours as people wake up.
    • StephenChow, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3Yeah geekchic, you filthy whore.
    • cwcheang, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3@ Chaser12

      3.15 AM? Go to sleep dude.
    • BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@chaser12

      Yep, guess it's time to hit the up and coming section to police the place or we'll see this hit the front page ten times today.
    • Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -14/+14@cheang : On the Internets, some people live in a different time zone to you.
    • alex.will, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17@Wootery

      On the Internets, some people are smart enough to read the clock in the system tray of the screenshot.
    • GarrettC, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@Wootery: Well, considering the clock in the screenshot says 3:15 am...that kind of gives it away. Of course I'm up at 5:08 am local time...but I got off work at 2:00 am and have been drinking since, so what's a nerd supposed to do?

      Edit: I was beat to it. Damn you Alex Will.
    • Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Oh yeah.
      Well, I'm an idiot.
    • AmishRefugee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3that's what happened when the cardinals won the world series :)
  • djinfidel, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6Bout time
  • QuorumCall, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44Sucks to be him
  • dreimanis, on 10/12/2007, -17/+141capital punishment is when you kill a man, who has killed a man, to show that killing is absolutely wrong.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -60/+14Capital punishment is when you do the worst thing available to someone who deserves even worse. The man's a monster and he deserves to die in my opinion. If it were up to me he'd be tortured first, the son of a bitch.
    • Eleo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+47I don't see how torture will solve anything.
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -11/+57The absolute worst torture is being alone. The human psyche can't handle it. Put him in solitary for life.
    • finite, on 10/12/2007, -10/+39I don't see how killing Saddam Hussein will solve anything either.

      Is this execution expected to deter other people from doing similarly bad things as he is said to have done?
    • yukevster, on 10/12/2007, -15/+47State Execution is a barbarous and inhumane remnant of humanities past. It still continues to be acted out in third world nations and..... the United Sates of America. Why?

      I think Borat has shown us that in his movie. It's not just outrageous comedy it's a bold comment on American civilization and it's primitiveness.
    • monergism, on 10/12/2007, -27/+7Capital Punishment is when the STATE executes a STATE criminal.

      Don't remain ignorant just for the sake of polemics.
    • usbserial, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I agree with Jolene. I can't imagine anything worse than being stuck in an 8 by 8 cell with no window or light of any kind... pitch black 24/7. Crappy food 3 times a day, a toilet, and a bare floor. No luxuries of any kind. Just the bare minimum to keep him alive and his brain as unoccupied as possible.

      I cannot imagain the boredom that would occur over the course of many years.
    • usbserial, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2@yukevster

      Ah, so it's okay in this case. Saddam is inhuman, as are many of the mass murderers out there.
    • simpleblob, on 10/12/2007, -18/+8No, Capital Punishment isn't used to show that Killing is wrong.

      It is used to deter further KILLING. It is a strong degree of punishment so that others will not follow the same path as Saddam did.

      If you are an evil dictator, What would you do if the hardest punishment you can get is .. jail for life? (I'm not sure, but in some countries, jail for life means you will get out in 20 years)

      Incentive, people.
    • yukevster, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Come on " simpleblob" you don't actually believe criminals and dictators ever consider being caught and executed do you? You (presumably) and I may, but we are not murderers or dictators.
    • hessian, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@ finite

      My thoughts exactly. Do you think the next round of dictators are going to curb their actions on the off chance that they may be sentenced to death, sometimes 10-15 years after their reign (eg Pinochet)? Dictators always think they're right and will always do what they feel is necessary to achieve their goals.

      Justice for those Iraqi's effected by Saddam's would be to see him rot in prison, preferably solitary confinement. This is just a victor's stamp to validate an illegal war.
    • Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8"Justice for those Iraqi's effected by Saddam's would be to see him rot in prison, preferably solitary confinement."

      How? Solitary confinement will remove him from contact with the rest of the world. After a short time, no one will even care that he's in there. He'll be forgotten and the only place the Iraq citizens will feel it is in their wallets. You believe execution is no deterrent, but how is solitary any better? It's no deterrent, either.

      "This is just a victor's stamp to validate an illegal war."

      This had nothing to do with the "victors" or an "illegal war". The Iraqi justice system decided his fate. I dislike Bush as much as the next guy, but this desire I see from others to link every damn thing (bad *and* good [but made out to be bad anyway]) to Bush is extremely disturbing. It's like a mass psychosis...
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3More like, capital punishment is when you render a murderer incapable of ever repeating his crime.

      -jcr
    • Trumpi, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Capital punishment is not there to prove that killing is wrong, nor is it there to act as a deterrent. If it was, then it is failing.

      Capital punishment is there as a means of inflicting justice.
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3If you leave Saddam alive in a hole somewhere there is always the possibility that he will get out someday. He needs to be killed and killed quickly.
  • Crazyiodudo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33You didn't actually think he would be proven innocent.

    I doubt he'll allow himself to live for the hanging. This man still believe he's the President of Iraq. He'll attempt suicide.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22Nah.. he'll tie up the courts for as long as possible, but he'll be on the tight end of a noose eventually. He's not a samurai.
    • kubudubudubuntu, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4I hope we get to see videos of the hanging.
    • Methodius, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@devindotcom

      Hell, I dunno, I say we give him a tanto and find out. Hara-kiri is a tradition I wish was more widespread. It could be considered an alternative to capital punishment. As the sentence is given, the defense attorney could say "My client wishes to appeal for honorable suicide."
      That way, the *****-ups and degenerates in society, facing jail or execution, can (as George Carlin put it) "take the knife out of the kitchen drawer and do the right thing."
    • Yoshi39, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I say we give him a tanto and find out.
      Great plan give a guy who has murdered hundreds of people a knife and see what happens
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Yoshi,

      Saddam has murdered hundreds of THOUSANDS of people, not hundreds.

      -jcr
    • Sixxer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"Proven innocent"? Last time I checked the call for evidence was on the side of guilt.
    • foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Goering (Cant do the 2 dots over the o) was not a Samurai, he commited suicide. Same with Hitler.
  • swOhio, on 10/12/2007, -16/+25I don't like the sentence at all. Does he deserve it, most likely. Will this cause a grave and overall negative reaction from the rest of the world, absolutely.

    Think how "unfriendly" leaders in the middle east feel about this; the US came in and not only overthrew Iraq, but is now executing it's former leader.

    This is just not good for any of our interests.


    p.s. I realize it's an Iraqi court and not the US who made the decision, but this will be the perception of other nations.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I think you're making some pretty big assumptions on the part of entire nations there. If the US _really_ wanted to do away with Saddam, the trial wouldn't have lasted as long, indeed there may not have been one at all.
      This article think the Sunnis may react negatively, though:
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15567363/
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Saddam only got a trial because of the United States. If it were up to the Iraqis, the Iranians, or the Kuwaitis, the son of a bitch would have gotten the Mussolini treatment they day they dragged him out of his rat hole.

      -jcr
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Oh, I think that Libya's decision to get out of the terrorism-sponsoring business is a pretty good outcome. Who knew Khadaffy was smart enough to save his own neck?

      -jcr
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The United States isn't killing him. The people of Iraq have decided that he should be executed. That will put a lot of fear in to his counterparts around the world. If the U.S. had wanted him dead they could have dropped a grenade in his spider hole and been done with the whole mess.
    • lswinney2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"p.s. I realize it's an Iraqi court and not the US who made the decision, but this will be the perception of other nations. "

      That's because the leftest news media will do everything they can to promote this false perception.
  • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -30/+109Good to hear, sorta. I mean, I don't really support the killing of another person, even if he has caused many deaths. I would personally sentence him to life, and not give him any sorts of luxuries like he got when we were holding him.


    Saddam:
    Halabja: 5,000
    1991 uprisings: 10,000

    = 15,000 (Approx)

    Bush:
    Iraq: 45,000-50,000


    So when does Bush go on trial?


    Don't think I'm not a supporter of our troops or anything. Hell, my brother-in-law came back three days ago! But, if Saddam is being executed for ordering killings...

    I'll know I'll probably get dugg down for this, but I really don't care.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -12/+37I'm not digging you down, but your numbers are way off. Do a little google (frankly I'm tired as hell and too lazy to cite some things) to find that Saddam's crimes were more far reaching than that. He's responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, though he may have "only" directly ordered a fraction of them.

      I think Bush should be on trial too, but it's in our interest to be objective, and Bush, as far as we know, hasn't _directly ordered_ the mass murder of civilians - only indirectly allowed it. Still disgusting and reprehensible, but as the better men it's our job to be fair and just.
    • oskite, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14My thoughts exactly. I'm glad at least so far you haven't gotten dugg down. It's either completely immoral to kill anyone no matter what the circumstances or it's completely moral. All people are created equal and all people die equal. It doesn't matter what they do in life. Anyone who says otherwise is a hypocrite.
    • 4Prophecy, on 10/12/2007, -15/+48Except the 45000-50000 is Bush's OWN estimate. Recent reports cite up to 600,000 - more than even Saddam's highest estimate.
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14@devindotcom

      I did do a few searches, and I got the first few things I found. (Which ended up being similar reports of the same numbers) Its too late and I'm too tired from working on a mod to do indepth research.

      But I agree with you, so +digg, and a gold star go to you.


      @oskite

      Well, I don't exactly know what you mean when you say "It doesn't matter what they do in life." Cause if it didn't, then no one should ever be punished. Maybe you could clear that up for me? Rephrase it? Or maybe I should try getting some sleep...?
    • oskite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Sorry 'bout that. What I meant was that nothing that you do should warrant anyone the right to take away your only true possession. And if someone does have that power, than why shouldn't everyone? Everyone's life should be valued equally, therefore everyone's power to take that life should be too. No matter how many lives you take, you should still be able to live yourself. I don't care how miserable your life is made as a punishment, but don't take away life.
    • ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14And what about Madeleine Albright:
      Asked by Stahl with regards to effect of sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?". Albright replied: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it."
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright
    • sam10685, on 10/12/2007, -13/+7people that think Bush needs to go to jail or be killed because of the people that are dying in Iraq are really starting to tick me off. saddam just killed people for the hell of it and saddam loyalists are still doing that. our troops are over there trying to stop that. seeing as how this is war, people are dying. that's unfortunatly what happens in war.
    • Xerxes35, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5By that same argument... bring on the trials for :

      Lincoln, Union POW camps...

      Roosevelt, carpet bombings in WW2 killed quite a few citizens..

      Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon... Vietnam anyone?

      Kerry... just for being a dumbass (sorry had to)

      equating Bush with Saddam is just pure idiocy...

    • noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -14/+12Half a million children have not died, nor have 600,000 civilians been killed. You need to check the sources on those figures and understand that the people behind them used unreliable methods and have as much of an agenda as Bush, whom, might I add, does not directly commission such statistics in the first place.
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4@sam10685

      There is ABSOLUTELY no way we could EVER stop a 1000+ year war that has been happening over there. Unless we kill every single person living over there, but then that would probably start other country's to attack us.


      @Xerxes35

      I'm sorry, I wasn't alive when Lincoln was in office, as for WW2, I don't believe Roosevelt was trying start a genocide like Bush has, and Vietnam? Well, I don't talk about Vietnam because I know a few people that were flown out of Vietnam and its even become a touchy subject for me.

      And you mentioning killing Kerry, really takes all the intelligence out of your argument.
    • Xerxes35, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12@ Joline

      Bush is going for genocide???? Where in the hell are you getting that from?

      As to my Kerry comment, said nothing about death I said bring on the trial... and I figured my side comment there would be a clue that it was a joke... similar to your ludicrous idea that Bush should go on trial...

      Awaiting to be dug down for not being anti-bush or so liberal I can no longer think for myself....

    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4@Xerxes35

      gen‧o‧cide  [jen-uh-sahyd]
      –noun
      the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.


      You're right, you didn't say kill Kerry, I apologize, I miss read what you said.
    • Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3"What I meant was that nothing that you do should warrant anyone the right to take away your only true possession. And if someone does have that power, than why shouldn't everyone?"

      And what do you do with people who believe they have that power? It doesn't matter if you give that power to everyone or not, certain people will take it either anyway. That's what Saddam did.

      What do you do? Lock them away and make them a drain on taxpaying citizens, ensuring their impact on the population, even if minor, for decades to come?

      These people forfeit their rights the moment they take them away from others. They don't value the lives of others, therefore theirs, too, has no more value.
    • Xerxes35, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@ Joline

      I know the definition, still trying to figure out where you are getting that assumption.

      Let me guess, considering most of the Iraqi deaths are caused by other Iraqis... Bush is secretly in cohots with all ethnic groups (Sunni, Shia, Kurd) to promote internal ethnic violence?
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3@Xerxes35

      Just because other people are kill them as well doesn't mean it isn't a genocide. No where within the definition does it say "The deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. By exclusively one national, racial, political, or cultural group."
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11You do realize that the vast majority of the Iraq deaths from 2003-now are caused by Iraqis killing Iraqis, mostly in the form of sectarian violence funded by radical clerics and our good friend - the president of Iran. When I hear estimates about how GW killed 600,000 people in Iraq it is so obviously wrong to state it in that context, unless you are a blind extremist who will do anything and everything to vent your hatred including misrepresentation of the facts. Those numbers represent people who died after the invasion in all sorts of ways, once again mostly sectarian violence funded by radicals and Iran at the current point in time.
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8I'm getting really tired of hearing about 600,000 to 650,000 dead civilians in Iraq. The Left would like us to believe that George Bush personally killed every one of those people. What I would like to know is this, how many of those alleged 600,000 deaths were the result of U.S. military operations and how many were caused by the followers and supporters of Saddam? You want us to equate an American soldier killing a terrorist in a firefight with a terrorist driving a car bomb in to a crowded marketplace and killing dozens of men, women and children. Have you people become so obsessed with your hatred of George Bush that you actually believe this? Do you realize how hopelessly naive you are? It's time to grow up, boys and girls, and realize that there are people in the world that want you dead or under their control. And it's not George W. Bush.
    • bolky21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2So Bush directly ordered the killing of 45,000-50,000 Iraqi's? Please point me to some evidence of this and I will side with you on prosecuting Bush for war crimes. Bush just enfoced the UN resolutions which the UN didn't have the balls to do.

      Maybe read some history and you'll find out that Saddam was raised by his uncle who was one of the original Baath party members. The Baath party allied themselves with the Nazi party during WWII to fight the British in current day Iraq. Saddam was raised by the teachings of Adolf Hitler and modeled himself after him by exterminating non Baathists. He rose through the ranks of the Baath party as an assassin.

      Please come back to reality and maybe inform yourself before you make baseless accusations.
  • Kizzle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+78+1 digg for not using "BREAKING" in the title.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6It's not "breaking" because it was decided two weeks ago and held until today. I'm amazed that people are acting so surprised.
  • Chaser12, on 10/12/2007, -26/+260 diggs in < 49 minutes isn't homepage. Yea Digg's new algo is great!
    • sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3oops
    • middleman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I would think the algorithm has to do with the amount of traffic to the article, not just the number of diggs. That would be my guess.
  • warlord, on 10/12/2007, -8/+49Gonna get me a Hung like Saddam tshirt
    • MoFoKeR, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11copyrighted....trademark reserved...incorporated...etc..
    • OdinThor, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I believe a grammar Nazi would tell you that T-shirt should read:

      Hanged like Saddam.

      I will admit, it does lose some potency.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think it's supposed to have the implication of "Hung like a horse" as well, so... no.
  • diggdong, on 10/12/2007, -21/+9OFF WITH HIS HEAD. Next.
    • Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4That's beheading not hanging you idiot.
    • diggdong, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Exactly.
    • Guncrazy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Actually, it could be both, if the rope drops far enough.

      Back in the days when hanging was a common method of capital punishment, there were actually charts which showed how much drop to put in the rope, based on how much the condemned person weighed. Too little drop, and their necks didn't break, causing a painful death by strangulation. Too much drop, and it would pop their heads right off, causing the janitor to be royally pissed.
  • AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -21/+24well its a leader. but not the right one. bush is much more deserving
    • teeemoy, on 10/12/2007, -15/+7yup...death to the infidel!!!
    • mictester, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14You're right - Bush should be tried for his many obvious crimes. However, the "winners" in a war are never tried for their crimes.

      As an aside - do a little reading about the firebombing of Dresden in WWII. It was probably the worst atrocity committed by anyone (concentration camps included!). Nobody was tried for that one!
    • dreimanis, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8what did bush do?
    • Xerxes35, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9@ ahronzombi

      Are you dumb? Saddam is more deserving of life than Bush... can you explain your reasoning behind this position??
    • Shorties, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7Well lets see Bush claims to have been misinformed about Iraq, which caused up to 650,000 deaths (Minimum 30,000 deaths)... Isn't that technically manslaughter? Accidental death? And with thousands in your record thats at least worth Life in prison without parole, possibly death sentence... Isn't it?
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6"Well lets see Bush claims to have been misinformed about Iraq, which caused up to 650,000 deaths (Minimum 30,000 deaths)"

      A) Every major intel agency in the world was wrong about Iraq. Not just George Bush. Many would not join in the invasion as they had oil/trade deals with Iraq. Which this is the downfall of the UN, somebody always has some sort of deal with the guy who the rest of the world is trying to sanction/act against.
      B) 650,000 vs 30,000 is a huge huge difference.
    • spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7OMG Lincoln was responsible for over a million American Deaths, when he could have just let the South secede! Lincoln should have been tried for war crimes. Truman dropped nuclear bombs killing thousands of civilians, he should have been tried for war crimes.

      It's strange that Bush is getting blamed for civilian deaths that have been caused mainly by insurgents in Iraq. Honestly what kind of thought process do the Iraqi's have? Ohhh we don't want these strangers in our country, so we're going to kill each other, and maybe a couple of Americans.
  • phillyjo, on 10/12/2007, -17/+10About time Justice was done!!
    • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15And guess who's the only dumbasses still fighting this war? "Just us"
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3At this point it is bad if we stay, and bad if we pull out. If we stay, more people die as the country continues to kill itself, public opinion keeps going down. If we pull out, our enemies will see that as a sign of weakness (As they have states before) and evidence that a) allah is on their side b) time to step up death on all westerners as that is allahs wish. c) the united states cannot win a war or finish a conflict so there will be little in the way of consequences when attacking the US. To be honest, the US really has not won a war since WW2. Vietnam - pullout, Korea - stalemate, Gulf War - Unresolved really. War on Terror - Completely stalled, needs new tactics, unpopular at home.
    • L0t3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
      @fatfinger

      Wow, that is both factually incorrect AND stupid. Care to try for the hat-trick?
  • grumpyrain, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17As good as it is to see the man brought to justice (although I am personally opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances), I just wonder whether this will achieve any more than making him a martyr to his supporters and to those others united in their hatred of anything 'west'.
  • pandaboy99, on 10/12/2007, -14/+53Has anyone realized this perfectly coincides with elections and the Republican parties master plan to turn the tides in their favor?
    • johnjohnstonson, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14NOOOO!!! you think so????
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Yes, some people realized. It was all over the blogosphere last week. BushCo delayed the ruling from mid-october to today. Why would it take two weeks? Why wait till two days before the Midterms?

      November surprise. That's why Rove was so confident. His "math" is this: November 7th - 2 days = November 5th.
  • everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14death's too good for him.
  • OropheR, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18I am against Death Penalty. Why not let him get rotten in a simple jail until the rest of his life, still enough time to think about what he's done, maybe write a book.
    Now, I am not sure his death will solve anything to the problems in Irak. Let's make him disappear simply: Actually, this could happen...
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -15/+7I would digg you up, but you spelled "Iraq" wrong...
    • QueenOfSwords, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Agreed. I think he should experience life in prison, being studied by psychiatrists (the way I'll bet many people would like to have been able to study Hitler, to find out where the h*ll that kind of sickness comes from...) and an ignoble death after a lifetime of scrubbing toilets.
      The ultimate punishment for a dictator? Irrelevance.
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11The reason to kill him is that as long as he's alive, he is a potential rallying point for the remnants of his regime. The Italians were right to hang Mussolini, the Romanians were right to shoot Caucescu, and it's a damned shame that Cambodia, the Philippines and Uganda never got the chance to kill Pol Pot, Marcos and Amin.

      For all of Bush's mismanagement of Iraq, the one achievement that can never be denied is the removal of one of the bloodiest dictators in the world from power. His father should have done it, but better late than never.

      -jcr
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"The reason to kill him is that as long as he's alive, he is a potential rallying point for the remnants of his regime. The Italians were right to hang Mussolini, the Romanians were right to shoot Caucescu, and it's a damned shame that Cambodia, the Philippines and Uganda never got the chance to kill Pol Pot, Marcos and Amin.

      For all of Bush's mismanagement of Iraq, the one achievement that can never be denied is the removal of one of the bloodiest dictators in the world from power. His father should have done it, but better late than never.

      -jcr"


      Thank you for the most clear and logical comment I have read yet.
  • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -18/+26When's it going to be Bush, Dick and Rice's turn?

    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5When is Teddy Kennedy going to be punished for murder?
  • CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -16/+36the irony that bush killed more iraqis than saddam did and he's not on trial
    • NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -15/+10Not by a long shot. It's not Bush who's detonating car bombs in marketplaces and mosques in Iraq.

      -jcr
    • gb506, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Don't bother, NSR, this crowd is in BDS overdrive today. It'll be Moonbat Central til a few weeks after the election.
    • trecko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2@ NSResponder

      You have to be kidding me. We're going to debate numbers? Does it even matter at this point, with these two? I'm not terribly fond of either of them. The fact is, the US is quite good at forcing others to be held accountable without being accountable ourselves. Displacement of blame and lies are no way to run any country. Arguing over who is more evil is total unnecessary in this case.

      ***** em.
  • diggthiscrap, on 10/12/2007, -13/+20Okay, so when are we sentencing Busg for his war crimes?
  • sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Capitol Punishment is *****. What a bunch of hypocrites we are to say he can't take a mans life (or many) and get away with it, but we will take his life as justice.

    Sometimes I am embarrassed to be human.
    • Guncrazy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Humanity is nothing to be embarassed about. What you ought to be ashamed of is your deliberate stupidity.
    • senseigmg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Iraqi court sentenced him to death, not a U.S. court.
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Who says that you're human?
    • Kizzle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1CYLON!
  • bryanedds, on 10/12/2007, -6/+36Ahh... just in time for the elections!
  • johnpowell, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Hello Civil War.

    It is official.. What the Bush admin thought would be good PR is going to be so bad in a few days.
  • KORGOTH, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
    • usbserial, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11It's not quite eye for an eye... we can't kill him >10,000 times.
    • spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Foreign policy should be dictated by philosophers, that makes total sense.
  • gemos, on 10/12/2007, -12/+11Bush killed about 300.000 iraqi people (and 2.800 american soldiers), Sadam killed about 15.000 people. So Bush is about 20 times Sadam
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11300,000? Don't you mean 600000?
    • jsdratm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Bush and the United Nations' Security Council, which voted to impose "serious consequences" against Iraq if it did not disarm in 2002. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Wait so even if a group of sunnis kill a group of shi'a Bush still killed them right? Great, Absolutely great logic. My favorite is how everybody's numbers vary on how many "bush killed", although most of you go with the highest death toll just to gain some anti-bush points.
    • quazywabbit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4How exactly do you disarm when you don't have the weapons in the first place? If i remember correctly IRAQ came back and explained everything they had and what happened to it. Also the UN came in and checked and was unable to find anything, and USA keep saying iraq was hiding it so instead of us going out there and finding it we just decided to bomb the area and we still found nothing and then decided to change the war from a search for WMDs to iraq liberation and well so far that isn't going as planned so most likely next will be Operation 'Get the hell out of Iraq'.
    • mrkmrk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"Wait so even if a group of sunnis kill a group of shi'a Bush still killed them right? Great, Absolutely great logic. My favorite is how everybody's numbers vary on how many "bush killed", although most of you go with the highest death toll just to gain some anti-bush points."

      The point is not that Bush personally killed these people. Nobody is making that argument. The point is simply that these deaths would not have occurred were Bush to not have invaded Iraq because of a lie in the first place.
    • Tangaroa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@jsratdam:

      Not quite. UN1441 promised to hold a meeting to determine what the "serious consequences" would be. See parts 12 and 13, where "serious consequences" in part 13 is "in that context" of part 12's convening for a meeting if they receive a report of noncompliance.
      http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution/1441

      From my memory, when Hans Blix returned from the first of two planned rounds of inspections with a report of noncompliance, the US called for this meeting to authorize an invasion. Lots of bribes went out, but things went downhill when the Security Council diplomats found out that the US was spying on them inside the UN building. When it became clear from the negotions that the US would not have enough votes to authorize an invasion, Bush called off the meeting and invaded anyway. Since there was no meeting and hence no Security Council resolution authorizing the invasion, the invasion was an illegal war of aggression.
    • WoahPuppets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2there's a difference between war and just killing people because you can. despite why Bush took us to war doesn't matter anymore...we're there. And we're helping people who were in a horrible place, because of their horrible leader. Helping them isn't bad is it? I know there have been casualties, but that's war, and the people living over there know it too. And didn't Saddam help in starting this war. Bush wasn't going to if Saddam just cooperated with us. We were all happy to catch the murderer and now we're making fun of Bush and wanting him tried? We should continue to back him up even though it is tough. When the World Trade Centers collapsed and Bush made those speeches about going after people like this, we all cheered...and now you're booing him for doing what he said he'd do? Quit your whining, it does no one any good.
  • kasted, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2great
  • growlzor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+43hoorah! Saddam is gone now we are safe... oh wait Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and us invading Iraq created thousands of suicide bombers... eff my life
    • L0t3k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Weird, I haven't seen this huge escalation of suicide bombings anywhere in the US that everyone has been predicting for some time.

      Howzabout today we just pretend we're all happy for the people that used to live under the iron fist of a psychopath dictator, and had the opportunity to try and convict him?
  • cpbrown, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9 Let he who has not sinned throw the first stone
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3They didn't sentence him to a stoning. Hes going to be hanged with rope.
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Okay, I apologize that you did not like my joke.
    • jsdratm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Give me a break lol, not many people are responsible for torturing and killing hundreds of thousands of people
  • omababy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31just in time for the US elections too...
    • livestradamus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6yeah.. what a ko-inki-dink!
    • Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Karl Rove controls all z0mg get out of my head nooes evil neocons!!1!!
  • mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11*****, I was hoping for Life in Prison. I bet he was hoping he would get death.
    • spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I doubt it, he still believes he is the president of iraq. He wants to govern Iraq. If he is alive he would probably still think he had a chance to "beat America" by himself. sure, his people are, but he never liked his people, he wanted to take credit for everything.
  • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Kim Jong-il has killed probably hundres of thousdands of his people and he's got nukes! It just goes to show that Bush and his supports like to push the weak around.
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17more like several Million. thats how many died when he refused to take assistance during the mid 90's famine
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks to Bill Clinton's brilliant appeasement strategy, a la Jimmie Carter.
    • Tangaroa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@twinklyJesus: No, Clinton got North Korea to halt their nuclear weapons program and plant cameras around their facilities. North Korea removed the cameras and restarted its program in 2002 and officially withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003. Neither Bill Clinton nor Jimmy Carter was President at this time, and I don't recall that Carter even had much of an agenda on North Korea as there had been a tense but steady ceasefire for 20 years. Mideast terrorism and the technology race with the Soviets were much bigger issues.
  • gerryk, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I seriously hope this doesn't come to fruition or it will be a worse solution than the original problem.
    • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11Bush is the problem, less people were killed while Saddam was in power. And we helped to put Saddam in power!
  • michaelbeckham, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26Just in time for elections! Now watch the Republicans use this for their advantage....
    • Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Yes, because everything in the entire world is coordinated by Karl Rove, z0mg!11!
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Wait, so an entire country's judicial system is supposed to stop and wait for US elections so that they may bolster the democratic partys "bush doesn't accomplish anything" speech. How about you just let the world go on without everything being a conspiracy.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Ark7, this verdict was, in fact, delayed by two weeks. It was going to originally be announced on Oct 15th or 16th. Why the two week delay?

      If you don't think the US has influence over this trial, you're dreaming. We created the court in the first place.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5mirunit, the verdict was supposed to come on Oct 15 or 16. It was postponed until Nov 5. Find any reason for the delay. Find out what happened with the court during that time. The answer is nothing. The only reason for the delay is timing for US elections. I'd challenge you to find any other.

      And it's not an "entire country's judicial system." It's a court created by the US when we captured Saddam.
    • juicethegoose, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"Yes, because everything in the entire world is coordinated by Karl Rove, z0mg!11!"

      You are an idiot.

      It's so blatantly obvious, yet you people suffer from the "cry wolf" syndrome and think it's all a conspiracy. This is why they're getting away with half the ***** they do.

      People are ignorant as *****, and this country is going to ***** because of it.
    • Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3When everything that has ever happened, ever, in the past six years, is blamed on an evil neocon conspiracy, yes, you do get tired of hearing the same ***** day after day. ***** off, nutjob. Go find more pictures of holographic planes hitting the South Tower.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ark7, I agree that most of the people talking about holographic planes are paranoid. That doesn't change the fact that the verdict was delayed by two weeks without any explanation, and Snow was already spinning this on Friday, two days before the verdict.

      Unless you think it would be too hard for the US, who created the court and provides most of the physical security, to have any influence in the timing. Yeah, that's such a stretch.


    • geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Wait, so an entire country's judicial system is supposed to stop and wait for US elections so that they may bolster the democratic partys "bush doesn't accomplish anything" speech. How about you just let the world go on without everything being a conspiracy."

      From the same group who said Clinton "wagged the dog." Then there's the Reagan Iran deal where Reagan timed the release of hostages just right.

      Uh huh.
    • floatingpoints, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Holographic planes? Wow, who's the nutjob here??

      Comparing "holographic planes" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) to a news story that was 100% intentionally delayed in an attempt to boost election results is really nonsensical.

      Just like this weekend, Fox is repeatedly showing that "Radical Islam" special in an attempt to do the exact same thing.

      Conspiracy theory is missile hitting the pentagon, the JFK assassination, Jimmy Hoffa, so on. Weird stories trying to explain the unexplainable. Exposing obvious attempts to sway public opinion in a time of an election is not a conspiracy theory. Why do you think these scandals come out all the time around elections? It's all about making your party look good, and the opposing party look bad. It happens like clockwork every 2 years.

      All of us who saw the story a few weeks ago about the delayed sentencing knew exactly what was going on, but the mainstream media and public are too ignorant to catch on. There's no conspiracy theory here, it's the real deal.

      I think you have to be incredibly naive or in denial to see these things happening and mistakenly brush it off as some weird conspiracy theory.
  • xdevit, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Wow hanged ??
    "In 1996, Billy Bailey became the last person executed by hanging in the United States to date." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging#United_States )

    While I see it fits the crimes I cant believe they are going to hang him.
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1really, you are actually suprised? their laws aren't exactly up to snuff with the rest of the world
    • xdevit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Sorry to reply to myself. I missed the BOLD part about this being in BAGHDAD, Iraq
    • Wreef, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Its in Iraq, not the US.

      Edit: Beaten to it.
    • neko, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4But.. I thought Iraq was a part of the US..?
  • gd007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4hope this does not increase violence in iraq.
    • kotatsu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2The country is already in a state of total anarchy. How much worse could it possibly get?
  • ianac88, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1Wow I do believe he deserves to die, but a hanging is a little ridiculous to me...... I would believe in a more "humane" death such as lethal injection.
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Go check out Penn and Tellers episode of ***** on state execution. They talk about how lethal injections aren't actually that humane, and I would imagen if they aren't done correctly here (which they aren't) it would be done even worse over there. Also, if you've ever seen a dog injected...you know it really isn't humane... (I know its different, but it lets you get a feel for how a creature reacts to the fact that they know their dying.)
    • adamsucks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5He killed hundreds of people.. those people had lives.. families. I think you'd change your tune if it were your family we're talking about.

      He didn't accidentally hit someone with his car.. he ended lives of people for no good reason. People who probably didn't deserve it.

      Humane? I think hanging is TOO humane in his case.
    • douglash2005, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4How about something along the lines of.........A slow, horrible, asphyxiating death caused by Mustard Gas. Yup, sounds perfectly fair to me....
    • TrevorBradley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Can someone explain to me why Americans are filled with so much hate?

      Hussein has done great and terrible wrongs, I agree with that completely, but what will killing him actually accomplish? Why the urgent need to punish the guilty in the worst way imaginable? Isn't it obvious that hanging him will only make things worse?

      Given the way comments are getting dugg here, I expect to be at -10 within the hour. But can someone try to reply, rather than just react and hit that digg down button?
  • mikeabundo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5If death is the penalty for killing 148 of your own citizens, I wonder what the penalty is for killing 3,000: http://mikeabundo.blogspot.com/2006/03/creepy-9-11-documentary.html
    • blizzwatch, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Google removed that video, have another source?
    • adamsucks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3It's just another conspiracy video..

      Not I don't have suspicions, but I think the comparison is a little out of place here.
    • Guncrazy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Can we PLEASE get back to what's important, here? SOMEBODY dropped a deuce in the URINAL. Now if you'll just confess, it'll be a lot easier for everybody, mmm'Kay?
    • mikeabundo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Thanks for the heads-up. Fixed. :)
  • blizzwatch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"Before the session began, one of Saddam's lawyers, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a memorandum in which he called the trial a travesty."

    Anyone know why Clark did that?
    • Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Because he's a self-righteous, sanctimonious ***** who has no idea what the word "suffereing" means in the least but felt it was his right to wag his finger at someone who was forced to live under this murderous bastard for decades?

      The judge's response? In english, to Clark: "Get out." Perfect.
  • ratsoid, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4***** die!
  • spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4will this be televised?
    • baxtermadux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11the revolution will not be televised
  • Emerica, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I've ad a few beer in me which might alter my judgement a little but why is he being put to death? Lock him away and use those tax dollars for a good purpose, let him wish he was dead. Maybe let him trade places with marc emery. Killing him imo only puts those in power on the same level. Does he deserve to die, many would say yes, but we've built a system, for people to learn not only from going to jail but learning about, being around people who have been, etc.
    Do you tell your children not to touch a hot stove, but fry up your hands for dinner?
  • csgecko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Hang him?, why not put his sorry ass in Jail for life...
  • spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8the irony is that the same crowd that asks 'when is it bush's turn,' also oppose the death penalty.
    • Jolene, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I'm one of those people, and I only say it as a comparison. If one man is put to death comanding the deaths many people. Why does a man who has commanded the deaths of more people not get put to death? I do not believe Bush should be killed, but I do believe he should be impeached and imprisoned.
    • dmh11686, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Jolene,
      There is no way that someone can compare what Saddam did with what has happened in the war in Iraq or President Bush. The United States started the war in Iraq with the support of most Americans and most of congress. Saddam ordered the death of hundreds of thousands of people with his sole intent of murder, with mass graves, giant meat grinders and thousands of women and children dead. The majority of deaths in Iraq are a result of terrorist and insurgents killing people. They blow themselves in markets, mosques, and kidnap people, behead them and you are going to blame all those deaths on President Bush. He did not order those people to blow themselves up. But Saddam did order whole cities of people to die. When the US kills people it is either because they are a terrorist or insurgent or by accident
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5#dmh11686

      Caution, this is digg.com and your opinion is not welcome so prepare to be dugg down for level-headed and logical analysis.
    • juicethegoose, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"the irony is that the same crowd that asks 'when is it bush's turn,' also oppose the death penalty."

      Because sometimes, just sometimes, you need to go against morals and personal convictions to do something for the better of the world.

      Bush, and his administration, joining Saddam would be the best thing to ever happen, trust me.
    • Herkimer56, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@juicethegoose

      So you admit that your morals and principles are up for sale? Now there's a typical Democrat. Our last president set his public morals and principles by the latest opinion polls. This makes him a typical Democrat, too. I'm very happy that we have a President that believes that personal morals and principles have meaning and can't be set aside for political reasons. If you're willing to surrender your personal beliefs for a passing political situation then you aren't much of a human being.
  • Ba7ebahaaa, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2What about George W Bush ?
  • adamsucks, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8Can we stay on topic and quit with the anti-bush *****?

    I don't like the guy either but there's no reason to fill this topic up with crap about someone other than Hussein
    • douglash2005, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Adam, you definitely don't suck. Great point.
    • Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3He is a war criminal too, I don't see why it doesn't have any connection with the main topic.
  • boolean, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8I would put bush and saddam in the same cell.
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