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- GlobalistShill, on 08/13/2008, -11/+127Georgia, welcome to the empire!
- richmomz, on 08/13/2008, -8/+109I've got a very bad feeling about this...
- inactive, on 08/13/2008, -5/+75that's what McCain meant when he said "We are all Georgians"...this whole debacle has been one stupid move after another...trademark of the good ol Bush administration...sigh...
- sirjoebob, on 08/13/2008, -10/+78finally, I have been waiting for WW3...
- inactive, on 08/14/2008, -12/+77So maybe this answers the questions - Why Georgia? Why now? This would give the Bush/Cheney an excuse to set up a Navy base on the Caspian! The Caspian Sea is completely landlocked. Russia and Iran have ports on it, while the US Navy has no access. In the event of a war with Iran it would be easy for the Russians to ship arms and supplies to Iran via the Caspian. Except now if Georgia hands over its ports to the US Navy that would change the equation.
This would be a very provocative move and would be challenged by the Russians. Let's hope that Saakashvili is talking crap. - Catspaw, on 08/13/2008, -10/+68It's the end goal that is most worrying. The crazies goal, according to Brzezinski, is to have nation states incorporated into a new world order, controlled solely by economic interests as dictated by banks, corporations and ruling elites concerned with the maintenance (by manipulation and war) of their power. Bye bye "democracy", hello tyranny. Refer: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.htm ...
- jaymzdean, on 08/13/2008, -10/+64"Everyone must surrender everything to ME!"
~Corporatism - jodimcmullen, on 08/13/2008, -7/+60other missions, like Iran.
- gemlarin, on 08/13/2008, -8/+56You are now under US command. You will now enjoy a era of freedom, peace, and prosperity.
/sarcasm - GovernmentSp00k, on 08/13/2008, -7/+54Georgia has been assimilated. RIP
"humanitarian and other missions"
Uh oh. Not those "peacekeeping" missions again. We know what that really means.. - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -4/+41No thanks. We should give it back to Georgia.
- muckemuck, on 08/14/2008, -2/+37He was on Glenn Beck tonight and said that Russia hates Georgia because of their freedom.. well.. at least he learned his lines from W well.
- richmomz, on 08/13/2008, -2/+32Why settle for one Georgia when you can have two?
- Erich100, on 08/14/2008, -0/+28Exactly how does this statement, ease tensions?
- inactive, on 08/14/2008, -1/+29I was just reading this article yesterday because of everything happening in Georgia. Brzezinski is a close adviser to Obama. It's strange that he doesn't get along with the Neocons because he seems to have the same strategy as they do. Perhaps the only difference is that he is not as Israel-centric as they are. However with regards to a strategy of dominating Central Asia for Oil, they are identical.
They sell this strategy to the "little people" by saying it is for the good of the country, but I have come to the conclusion that it is only for the good of the Oil companies. I'm sure we could obtain Oil on the free market without having to occupy countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. After all, aren't the so-called "conservatives" always telling us how great the free markets are? So why do we have to create an empire and colonize half the world for Oil? It hasn't lowered the price of gas one penny, in fact the opposite is true. So where's the benefit for the "little guy". - inactive, on 08/13/2008, -13/+38This idiot is gonna cause us to joint the war, thus starting WWIII
scary! - stretch611, on 08/13/2008, -3/+28But we can't; we already have a state named Georgia.
(Sorry about the humor on a serious topic, but I could not resist.) - Erich100, on 08/14/2008, -0/+19Maybe history has shown that all empires fail, but how many lives and how much unnecessary misery is delivered to the masses in the process?
- evilish, on 08/14/2008, -3/+21Holy *****! I seriously hope that Saakashvili is talking *****.
And now this: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/13/us.russ ...
Someone tell me that they seriously aren't trying to start another Cold War? or worse?
***** sake, is anyone sane left over there in the White house?
*****, they've asked Australia for military assistance. I really hope we don't get pulled in on this one too. - Hangly, on 08/14/2008, -1/+18Same here. The so-called NWO is a triple misnomer. It is neither new, nor orderly, nor does it encompass the whole world--not even close. The NWO is the G8 and its satellites, nothing more.
Just like the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor really an empire.
Does it exist? Yes.
Is it powerful? Boy howdy.
Does it want to take over the planet? Damn straight.
Will it succeed? No.
If you believe the NWO is real (and it is) then we need to compare it to other things that we know are real, both in the present and in history.
The most important thing to remember is that it is run by men, and they are just as prone to corruption and self-delusion and overconfidence as anyone else.
Also, men do NOT control physical reality. Never have, never will. There are natural forces always at work which are more powerful than the US, more powerful than the global economy, and sure as ***** more powerful than a bunch of privileged bankers and their cronies, no matter how much money and weaponry they control.
The problem with tyrants and the reason they always fail is they overestimate the extent of their own power and believe they can shape reality by the sheer force of their own will. They also invariably believe that they are immune to the forces of nature and history because they believe their model for world domination is somehow different from those of tyrants who have gone before.
I have news for them. Cell phones and computers and even nuclear weapons don't make a damn bit of difference. They're only details. Underneath them is the same dumb idea which will fail for the same reason it has always failed.
And that is that people by nature want to be free. They love freedom more than they want security, they love freedom more than they want luxury, and they love freedom more than they love life. Irrational perhaps, but we are not fundamentally rational beings.
...Which isn't to say it can't ***** a lot of people's ***** up before its finally destroyed. However I too love freedom more than life, and I will relish every moment I spend fighting it. - avengingturnip, on 08/14/2008, -2/+19Um, so now the U.S. military will have operational bases between Russia and Iran? Oh crap! Something tells me this isn't about aid.
- V3n0M, on 08/14/2008, -2/+19Yeah, but you do realize we're the perpetrating Empire don't you?
- inactive, on 08/14/2008, -1/+17My mistake! Georgia has a coast on the Black Sea not the Caspian. Sorry, I have the Caspian on my mind lately because Russia and Iran border it, and because of the Gas and Oil reserves there.
- iancgi, on 08/14/2008, -3/+19Fight with tools. We have them at our finger tips. Dont hate the media, become the media.
Everyone knows the MSM is blatantly lying to them, now its up to us to point out the real enemies to everyone. - ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/14/2008, -4/+18As strange as it may seem I'm not worried about a New World Order. History has proven it self time and time again that nobody has been able to successfully take over the world. Every time it has been attempted the perpetrating Empire has crashed and burned.
- JasonCox, on 08/14/2008, -1/+14Wow, how isnt the fact that the Pentagon has already denied this in the top 5 comments?
- V3n0M, on 08/14/2008, -1/+14It's had the exact opposite affect where I'm sitting!
- seven07, on 08/14/2008, -1/+14All your base are belong to US, literally?
- fadeout, on 08/14/2008, -3/+16The DoD publicly turned him down *yesterday.*
Quit with the knee jerk "zomg world war 3" crap about this already. - Bagos1, on 08/14/2008, -2/+14Georgia.....The new proving grounds for weapons.
- Phearce, on 08/14/2008, -1/+13Be nice to America, or else we'll bring democracy to your country.
:^) - CoolHandLuke70, on 08/14/2008, -1/+13Georgias on my mind!
- inactive, on 08/14/2008, -3/+15Cheney' never around unless death is involved somehow. Then he crawls out from under his oil drums. Meanwhile the people of the US are watching the mindless games unaware...... Are we not entertained?
- HMTKSteve, on 08/14/2008, -1/+12The US government has already denied that they will be taking control of the port. Buried for being inaccurate.
- inactive, on 08/14/2008, -0/+11Georgia 2.0 (Might need a 2.0.1 patch if Russia decides to do some more kick assing.)
- JagPop, on 08/14/2008, -2/+13Is Cheney this clever? Kudos to his brain, if so. Damn his soul.
- XISUPERMANIX, on 08/14/2008, -0/+11I was hoping that you were being sarcastic but *****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNfhVNfMePU - Hangly, on 08/14/2008, -7/+18Can someone tell the clowns in Washington to knock this ***** off? Seriously, this is getting really old.
- cruzlee, on 08/14/2008, -2/+13That's because it's not what it seems. To my knowledge this is what happened:
First he signed a cease fire (years ago) for the region.
Then he tries to occupy the region with blitzkrieg style, using US trained troops.
Then he sees it is a failure, because Russia hits back hard.
Then he tries to get the USA to help him out of this situation. - mcla007, on 08/14/2008, -1/+12"I'm sure we could obtain Oil on the free market without having to occupy countries like Iraq and Afghanistan....So why do we have to create an empire and colonize half the world for Oil?"
They are not much worried about whether YOU get to consume oil or not. They are more worried whether THEY get to sell you the oil. Did you really believe the elites of your country are starting wars, committing war-crimes, pushing the world to the brink of nuclear holocaust--all for the benefit of the "little guy"? Their whole business model is based on "screw the little guy". This not "free" market in any honest sense. The last thing the elites want is free markets (nevermind their rhetoric) because in a truly free market their power to bargain would be a lot lot less, and they would be a lot poorer. - aenegeling, on 08/14/2008, -0/+10congratulations?
- geoken, on 08/14/2008, -0/+10The people who want to do the uniting rarely have noble motives.
- Hangly, on 08/14/2008, -1/+10True.
Oil isn't just about oil though, and money is never just about money. Only power is a goal in and of itself.
The goal, according to Brzezinski, is to have power over the states of Eurasia. With the Soviet Union gone, it is predictable that a geopolitical rival will emerge on the Eurasian continent. That means Russia, China, Japan, Europe, India, or a combination of the above. All economies and militaries run on oil, so controlling the oil gives the US and its allies the ability to cripple or destroy any country that relies on imports.
It's a bold strategy.
Actually it's an insane strategy, because there's no way in hell the US will be able to hold off Russia, China AND India in a war. The logistics of maintaining control over the Middle East and Central Asia from half a world away against other more populous nations who border those regions boggles the mind. What could the US do to stop a fully-equipped 20 million-man army crossing from China into Afghanistan? We have what, 130,000 troops or so in Iraq?
And that's just China. What if the Chinese, Russians, Indians and Iranians put together a plan to drive the US out and divide Iraq and Saudi Arabia equally among themselves? - V3n0M, on 08/14/2008, -0/+9You don't have to be the Captain of the Titanic to get boned when we hit the iceberg.
- pilobilus, on 08/14/2008, -3/+11If true, this would account for the reported Russian military buildup in Georgia, still in progress today. The Doomsday Clock just advanced to 11:59:30.
- mcla007, on 08/14/2008, -0/+7Hangly, you are scintillating :)
- Hangly, on 08/14/2008, -0/+7If by "will have" you mean "won't have."
There's no way in hell Russia will agree to this. It's another ultimatum drafted with the intention of being unacceptable which can provide a pretext for war when Russia laughs its ass off and gives it the finger.
Again, just like the Rambouillet Agreement (ultimatum) delivered to Serbia 9 years ago. - ParanoydAndroid, on 08/14/2008, -0/+7Bush is an idiot, but in all fairness he neither started this war, nor are we participating in it. There aren't Georgian guerrilla groups trying to kill us, we're jsut providing humanitarian aid; and there's absolutely no way Russia is dumb enough to kill American troops, so we're pretty safe.
- snotrokit, on 08/14/2008, -0/+7You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell! Oh wait, not yet. Sorry.
- Nintendesert, on 08/14/2008, -1/+8And the cups of Kool-Aid run over.
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