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- cjdunn, on 08/01/2008, -3/+326There are a couple of problems here. First, "'We never opened the box. We have nothing to do with this box,' Calvo said."
Maybe it's the reporting, but you can't be charged with possession or accepting an illegal substance by merely accepting a SEALED box via delivery service, fake or otherwise. The police must prove with a written or verbal statement made by Calvo or his wife that either knows what he/she is getting.
"Calvo said officers entered about 7:30 p.m., first shooting 7-year-old Payton. They then pursued 4-year-old Chase, who ran away and was shot by police from behind, he said."
I'm sorry but a cop can't feel threatened by dog THAT IS RUNNING AWAY FROM HIM! - Whoopteedoo, on 08/01/2008, -4/+295They're paying an awful lot of attention to the dogs being shot instead of the reason that the pot was delivered there, and why it was addressed to the wife? Was it a mistake or not? A SWAT team certainly wasn't necessary, not even for pounds of the stuff. Did they think the mayor and his wife were big time drug dealers who had guns at the ready to start a shoot 'em up--over pot????
This was supposed to be a high publicity arrest of a politician that went wrong. But the cops will just say they felt threatened by the dogs. I'm waiting to hear why that pot was shipped to the mayor's house, who shipped it, how the cops found out about it, and lastly, who decided it would be a good idea to send a heavily armed paramilitary team to handle this when a few officers with a search warrant to knock on the front door would have sufficed. What did they think, that Mr. & Mrs. Calvo would destroy all that evidence while the dogs kept them busy, jumping all over them and licking them? - inactive, on 08/01/2008, -31/+229Police officers behave this way because they tend to have very small genitals.
I had many good friends who worked in emergency medicine... while attending one party, someone brought up the "race and penis size" issue. After some discussion about race and penises, one woman brought up something i had never heard from any of them before - she mentioned something about police officers almost always having very small penises. Several people mentioned personal anecdotes about treating police officers, and how they almost always had a very small penis. Apparently this is some sort of running inside joke in the medical professions. I asked them if they were serious, and they said yes, it is common knowledge that police officers usually have very small penises and testes. These people would know since they have to give physicals to them and also deal with them in emergency situations. As one of them put it "If we get a call that there is a police officer coming into our trauma ward, we immediately know we'll need a catheter from the pediatric ward."
I think this may help explain the behavior we see caught on tape from time to time. - alittlebrookie, on 08/01/2008, -5/+192The Cops delivered the pot? I guess thats how it works now. They don't have to wait around for you to actually "break the law".
- laudyms, on 08/01/2008, -15/+191We seem awfully eager to give inept over-eager fools a gun.
- BuckQJohnson, on 08/01/2008, -17/+161All this is is politics being done in Maryland. Somebody wanted to embarrass the Mayor and decided to go hardcore and kill his dogs to intimidate. They could have easily have knocked on the door after it was delivered and had a warrant. Also the mayor isn't innoccent on this either, it his wife or him or both that have a relationship with a drug dealer that flipped. Everything that happened that night from both sides is shady.
- purkel, on 08/01/2008, -3/+107I keep trying to make sense of this story, and all I can think of... is that we're missing part of the story.
The cops try to deliver a 32LB package of pot??? to the majors wife? Why not address it to the major if youre trying to set him up?
Then they deliver it to grandma... who has no clue whats in the box and doesnt even open it. How does that make someone guilty of possession?
Are the cops gonna start mailing random drugs to see who keeps them, then come and arrest you? - theNazz, on 08/01/2008, -1/+100The Maryland PD said they always bring SWAT in for busts involving that much pot. It just goes to show how screwed up the legal system is and how out of control law enforcement has become. Overkill is an understatement.
Pot is a weed and should not constitute a 'crime'. These cops should move to Saudi Arabia or another country with like minded individuals. They have no place in the 'free' USA. - Drahkar, on 08/02/2008, -2/+93You have no proof the Mayor did anything. A package was delivered to their house. They took it inside. That's it. The police force was WAY out of line in this situation and I hope they get dinged for it.
I mean really. What would you do with a package that got delivered to your house? I know I tend to take them inside. I don't know anyone who goes 'Oh look. A package has been delivered for me. I think I'm just going to leave it on my doorstep.'
And as to the dogs, police are getting more and more into the habit of just shooting any animals in the house. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a unwritten policy for it. Every situation I've heard of that has an animal in the house when its raided, that animal is dead by the end of the raid. Frankly I think its sick. If they aren't being attacked then they have no right to shoot the animals. 'Feeling Threatened' is bullsh*t. Animals don't threaten. They either attack or they don't. Growling should not be enough to warrant them being shot. - drez24, on 08/02/2008, -3/+82All this over a plant.
- Murdats, on 08/02/2008, -1/+74there was an article on digg a while back where the cops killed 2 dogs that were running from them infront of the whole family, kids included.
it seems this is much, much more common then it should be, sadistic people who know they can get away with brazen brutality. - lamiaconfitor, on 08/02/2008, -1/+72I cant believe they chased the second dog... that's not ineptitude, that's just ***** up and evil.
- DangerCollie, on 08/02/2008, -2/+60WTF? I mean seriously, W-T-F? If the mayor's wife ordered pot...and just where do you mail order pot...why not just bring her and ask about it? If the cops staged the delivery because they found a transit with her name on it...somebody shipped it. Phone calls were exchanged, money changed hands. They can track all that. What's the justification for sending a swat team into a family home when the cops staged the delivery?
This isn't just a little wrong, this is a lot wrong. It's an elected officials wife for crying out loud. Just call the house and ask her to come down to the station. Or drop by and knock. This ***** is getting way out of hand. - dondara, on 08/02/2008, -4/+60So how they claim the dog was a threat when they had to chase it? And it was a lab. A bird dog. I would bet a years pay you cannot find one person who has ever been attacked by a lab. These ***** pigs are so out of control. ***** THE POLICE
- dilbert, on 08/02/2008, -4/+60Wait, are you trying to say this wasn't in Nazi Germany?
- inactive, on 08/01/2008, -14/+69pigs storm house - dogs: "I smell bacon"
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -7/+61
Isn't this entrapment for political purposes? - cardyology, on 08/02/2008, -7/+50I hope the cops that shot the dogs die of ***** AIDS. Evil sick bastards.
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -2/+45Shooting a dog running away.
Yeah, I was threatened.. he was running away...
WTF? - WallyAnti, on 08/02/2008, -0/+42Yet if you kill their dogs it's an assault on an officer!? This type of police behavior is dangerous for both citizens and police. We need to change the law so they cannot do this sort of thing for any reason. As to the officer who shot the running dog. He's just a big pussy with a gun.
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -0/+41Plus they were labradors.
I train dogs (as a hobby). You can't even train a lab to be aggressive. You can't train them for protection, they just don't have it in them.
They're the nicest, most docile breed I know of. Type of dog to run straight up to burglars and roll over for a tummy rub. - gyver, on 08/01/2008, -13/+53I can't help but day dream that those 2 officers (the dog killers) get their arms shot off so they have to spend they rest of their lives as amputees. Oh and they get some multiple resistance bacterial infection during the operation. Only resistant enough that they go through hell but not so resistant as to harm others in the hospital.
To take the life of an animal that has only shown unwavering love to people is unthinkable. I know I'm letting my emotions control how I look at the situation but god damn it they were labs. I'm not sure there is a less aggressive dog out there than a lab. - kokoshka, on 08/02/2008, -6/+45If anyone shot my dogs, law enforcement or otherwise, I would kill that person.
- jeffiek, on 08/02/2008, -1/+37'I'm sorry but a cop can't feel threatened by dog THAT IS RUNNING AWAY FROM HIM!'
You're out of touch. Nowadays cops can feel threatened by 'most anything. Little old ladies, women with dislocated knees, teenagers with broken backs. What the hell, it's easier to list what they're NOT afraid of:
Their shadows. - gyver, on 08/01/2008, -2/+38What do you do when you get a package. Do you ask the delivery-man what it is or do you just sign for it and let him get on with his job. They never even opened it by the time the police raided them. There is no proof that the mayor or anyone at the residence payed for the pot and that it wasn't a setup. Even without considering that, what are the odds that a mayor will shoot(risking his own life) rather than be arrested. A SWAT team was completely unnecessary.
- reknaps, on 08/02/2008, -0/+33The box didn't originate with the cops. They got tipped that a box of marijuana was being delivered from god knows who to the mayors house. They intercepted the box, put on a UPS uniform, and dropped the box off themselves as a way to be involved with the sting.
Im guessing whoever tipped off the cops is trying to setup the mayor. - richbleak, on 08/02/2008, -1/+34Why the ***** would selling pot necessitate guns? You reveal your ignorance of the world. People buying for their own use are amongst the least violent people on the planet. Furthermore, this is the friggen mayor of this town; it is not as though we are talking about some kind of gang banger. This guy and his family aren't exactly going to go out in a hail of bullets.
- frazw, on 08/02/2008, -1/+34The impression I got from the article and reading between the lines a bit is that the package was sent through the mail and a sniffer dog (or something else) picked it up. The police then took the package and posed as delivery men to protect the real delivery men. With such a large quantity of the stuff it isn't surprising that they might expect a relatively large scale operation and thus resistance but what doesn't add up is that they surely knew that it was the mayor's address and in light of that discretion and diplomacy are obviously a better option. Instead what they did is verging on entrapment and the killing of the dogs is inexcusable. I suspect the killings were made by cops who get off on the power of killing and thought it was funny.
Of course there are a lot of gaps in the story so this is just my opinion. - reknaps, on 08/02/2008, -0/+30Drug dealers often have packages sent to other homes and then scoop them off the front doorstep before the home owner realizes the package is there.
And the fact that the dogs were black labs just makes it seem much worse? How threatening can black labs be?? - kidlinux, on 08/02/2008, -1/+31I think the term 'pigs' was actually derived from the oppressors in George Orwell's "Animal Farm".
- bradcrc, on 08/02/2008, -3/+33they killed 2 black labs?
*****, that made me mad. Labs and retrievers are the friendliest, most mellow dogs around. I guarantee those dogs never bit anyone in their lives, nor would have. - Recuso, on 08/02/2008, -0/+30My kind of nurse.
- Reostat, on 08/02/2008, -5/+35Rawstory is a little biased, we should know that by now. From a different article (I searched it out when I saw rawstory)
"The investigation that led police to their house in the 8500 block of Edmonston Road began in Arizona, officials said. There, a police dog at a shipping facility identified the package as being filled with marijuana. Prince George's officers posed as deliverymen and brought it to Calvo's home. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
So if that's true, it was already being delivered, and the police delivered it instead of the postman so that they could do the operation. They didn't just deliver that much pot just for entrapment.
Edit: To save from buries, I should point out that I think the behaviour of the cops, the shooting, etc. was WAY out of line, however I just wanted to bring to attention that sometimes it's relevant to check more than the one source. Judging by all the comments here, everyone's jumped to conclusions already about conspiracies, political intimidation, etc. Rawstory is almost as bad as thedailymail... - VitriolAndAngst, on 08/02/2008, -3/+32The shooting of the dog, just tells you you've got morons who took the job to shoot stuff. When not wearing the latest fashion in black flack jackets, and steel toed boots, I'm sure these guys start conversations with; "Hey, look what happens when I do this..."
- Cmax71, on 08/02/2008, -1/+29"Sheriff's office spokesman Sgt. Mario Ellis says deputies apparently felt threatened when they shot the dogs."
WTF??? How on earth could someone feel threatened by Black Labs?? They shot as the dog was running away??? What were they afraid of.....being licked to death? Sounds like more Cowards with guns being paid to violate our constitutional rights. Gotta love that WAR on Drugs. Its simply an excuse for the government agencies to tread on our rights. I guess as long as our President thinks the Constitution is just a "piece of paper" we can expect more and more of this BS. - VitriolAndAngst, on 08/02/2008, -2/+29Nobody in the Drug Trade is going to be dumb enough to send pot through the mail. So whomever sent it was setting him up.
- ryanpw, on 08/02/2008, -4/+31so cops can bring u drugs then arrest you! and kill your dogs! ... gotta love the system we've got today ......
- JTMON, on 08/02/2008, -2/+29Call the PGCP Chief, Melvin High, at 301-772-4740 and let him know what you think of this kind of behavior from a public servant
- unclemeat, on 08/02/2008, -0/+26Er, says in the article that the police delivered it to the house.
"Prince George's County Police said Berwyn Heights Mayor Cheye Calvo brought a 32-pound package of marijuana into his home that had been delivered by officers posing as delivery men." - moulin1, on 08/02/2008, -0/+25Correction. They didn't take it inside. His mother-in-law was suspicious of the package, the (fake) deliveryman or both and didn't touch it. She asked them to leave it outside.
- kufu91, on 08/02/2008, -2/+27hmm, why does this sound familiar?
http://digg.com/world_news/FedEx_goofs_on_200lb_ma ...
this is clearly entrapment and the police used excessive force. ***** - inactive, on 08/01/2008, -7/+31the difference what i said is true and it gets dugg, and you get buried, cop
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -1/+25Just a little context from a local: Berwyn Heights is a tiny speck of a town adjacent to College Park in the Washington DC burbs. It's got a vegetarian restaurant and little else. It's in Prince Georges County, which has achieved nationwide fame for its police brutality.
- user500, on 08/02/2008, -1/+24let me get this strait....
If I were to send prominent people boxes of drugs they will be raided and arrested? If so Bush & rove you got mail! - moulin1, on 08/02/2008, -2/+25Notice no arrests, no charges. The Calvo's never touched the package. They were suspicious of it which implies to me they have nothing to do with it. When the sheriffs realize no one is going to open the package they lose patience and move in guns blazing. But no crime has been committed. The Calvos' didn't take the bait.
Whether you love dogs or not, whether you believe the Calvos are drug dealers or victims of a political setup, the real issue, as is happening more and more often, is cops coming in with guns blazing when no crime is committed. They become judge jury and executioner. And no charges and no need to prove anything in court. - VitriolAndAngst, on 08/02/2008, -0/+23OK. Who the hell sends Pot through the mail?
When "reading between the lines;" Could it be that, a Political opponent wants to get rid of the Mayor? Perhaps he is cleaning up crime in the state, or wants to decriminalize drugs -- don't know. So they send a package to his house and anonymously tip the cops. A cop who wants a promotion, and may be a bit of a scum bag, just sees his name in lights at the idea of busting a mayor on drugs, so he doesn't worry or think about "the tip."
These cops have lost the whole point of their use to society. But they've been made into tools of the real criminals who keep the status quo. I'm pretty sure this was for political reasons. - BuckQJohnson, on 08/01/2008, -4/+26Good poin Purkel, good point. As I stated before, something about this story is fishy. I mean for them to chase around purposely going after the dogs to shoot sounds to me they where trying to send a message to the people in the house by shooting something that isn't human but is a family member.
- dstz, on 08/02/2008, -3/+25"He has said that he and his mother-in-law were handcuffed and interrogated for hours while surrounded by the carcasses and blood of his pets."
Day, after day, after day, after day. This ***** has to stop. - thestranger, on 08/02/2008, -0/+22And what's worse about the "threatening" dogs is these were guys in SWAT gear. I am sorry but if your SWAT team is worried about two labs biting them, then I suggest they upgrade their SWAT gear.
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