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- richmomz, on 08/19/2008, -12/+208“If someone thinks they can kill our citizens, kill soldiers and officers fulfilling the role of peacekeepers, we will never allow this,” Mr Medvedev told a group of Second World War veterans in Kursk. “Anyone who tries to do this will receive a shattering blow.”
Western media translation: "Vee vill CRUSH zemm!" - BabyWookie, on 08/18/2008, -26/+108It's more like: "Kill our people and we will crush you."
- BaseballGuyCAA, on 08/19/2008, -6/+76"I must break you"--Ivan Drago
- SteelChicken, on 08/19/2008, -19/+83I really dont see how Russia is the bad guy in this. Georgia started this, and thought Russia wouldn't do anything, or the US would somehow intervene. How stupid can you be?
- protogenxl, on 08/19/2008, -5/+69Russian official: The Soviet Union will be pleased to offer amnesty to your wayward vessel.
American official: The Soviet Union? I thought you guys broke up.
Russian official: Yes, that's what we wanted you to think! [Maniacal laughter] - zyrg, on 08/19/2008, -13/+69as i'm from Estonia, the fear actually is growing. it's not cute and nice at all to have such a country at your border who's actions aren't predictable at all, who knows what they come up next there, for me personally the situation is a real pain in the ****. we should just get along nicely, shouldn't always show how big and mighty and powerful one or another country is. normal ordinary people just want to live in peace and do their everyday doings, and not to look over your shoulder all the time...
- Lunarsight, on 08/19/2008, -0/+44Okay - this is what happened.
South Ossetia is an area that is 2/3 Ossetian in race, and roughly 1/3 Georgian. The villages are pretty evenly mixed, making dividing up the area a real pain in the beck. South Ossetia got tacked onto Georgia in the early 19th century.
Thing is - many in South Ossetia don't want to be a part of Georgia, and have tried to pass referendums to secede from Georgia, which have been rejected by outside parties for one reason or another.
Despite this, South Ossetia has been ruled as a de facto independent entity lately, with a strong Russian influence. (Many of the Ossetians have Russian citizenship.) There are also Russian 'peacekeepers' in South Ossetia, which is remnant from previous hostilities in the last decade. Georgia argues the Russian peacekeapers aren't that neutral.
As far as this recent fiasco goes, the Georgians argue the South Ossetians started it by attacking Georgian villages, and they in turn retalliated against South Ossetian villages in response. South Ossetia argues that Georgia is lying, and was looking for some reason to try and re-annex South Ossetia.
Russia saw George attack South Ossetia, and some of their 'peacekeepers' may have been caught in the middle. They in turn come storming in, and begin to attack Georgia villages.
So, as you can see, WHOEVER tries and make this seem like a cut and dry situation is full of crap. It's a complicated mess that needs arbitration by an outside party. I personally don't think there are any heroes here - just different groups with different agendas. - JasonCox, on 08/19/2008, -4/+48If the US says it, it's ok. If the Russians say it, then they're a bunch of evil commies bent of world domination. I love our Western media.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -4/+47No, Kruschov said it in reference to the Digg rating system.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -6/+49"we will crush you" > "justice/freedom/democracy/terrorism/wmds/defendournation/evil"
simple, honest and straight to the point - mikephimikephi, on 08/19/2008, -6/+48Russia is "dragging its heels in withdrawing" their invasion force.
And US / NATO have the moral high ground, how exactly? - ilistenisee, on 08/19/2008, -3/+41Once Aliens invade Earth, we'll unite...until then, just hope we don't start nuking each other.
- LunaticFringe, on 08/19/2008, -7/+41To the people thinking the US could utterly crush and destroy Russia: You're wrong.
It'd still be a fun case of our friend MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction.
To the people who lord and glut on war and death, ***** you by the way. You want to get an idea of why Russia went into Georgia? Imagine if your town was suddenly taken out by dumbfire MRLS from across the way, killing everyone you care about. Imagine holding your wife, mother, or children, their legs blown off and shrapnel embedded in their hearts, their last moments weakly trying to hold on against the now inevitable shroud of death that creeps over them. This is what Georgia did. - BabyWookie, on 08/18/2008, -26/+58Hey. You don't sucker-punch somebody and then, after they kick your ass, complain that they were bigger than you. When Georgia targeted and killed those Russian pieace-keepers, it was an act of war, plain and simple.
- 007isbond1, on 08/19/2008, -9/+35can we blow ***** up yet?
- omg404, on 08/19/2008, -17/+43Russia seems like it is just sticking up for their people, look at how most people in the war zone feel. They say Russia helped them while Georgian forces were pointlessly killing them.
- MrMysterious, on 08/19/2008, -17/+42He better hurry and do all the crushing before Georgia joins NATO.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+27But what am I supposed to do for the other 23 hours and 57 minutes of each day?
- Waiting2awake, on 08/19/2008, -0/+24You are a tool, fighting Russia is not like sending so people over to another land while your kids go to school and your walmart wife is picking up the family pack of chocolate covered hash browns...
New York, Cali, Seattle, et all - every American city is a target. Every single person that thought that "What the big deal", will be a victim... and all because of what?
This will be a real fight - with real blood and the MSM isn't going to be able to hide the half bodies, peeled skin and death throughout the streets - Americans may see them right outside their doors...assuming their house is still there.
Grow up, this isn't a rambo movie. - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 08/19/2008, -5/+29We have failed to learn from history, now we are being condemned to repeat it.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+25"Our so-called leaders... prostituted us to the West. Destroyed our culture... our economies... our honor. Our blood has been spilled on our soil... My blood... on THEIR hands... THEY are the invaders. All US and British forces will leave Russia immediately... or suffer the consequences" - Zakhaev
I've heard it so many times it's burned into my RETINAS! - Ovidutz, on 08/19/2008, -16/+39make love, not war.
- GoneSouth, on 08/19/2008, -4/+25You're having trouble pacifying a few guys in sandals with AK-47s and towels on their heads who came to war in a beat up toyota pickup. What are you going to do against a real army?
- SRSco, on 08/18/2008, -15/+34You people still don't get it. You can't invade and occupy your own territory. South Ossetia is in Georgia. Georgian troops did not invade anything. They aren't occupying anything. RUSSIA is the invader and occupier. I really hate this "enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality so many Diggers have. You can't automatically discount a nation as being immoral solely based on the fact that they are a US ally. And don't give me that ***** argument about how i've been had by an American propaganda machine that is pro-Georgian. If anything, you Diggers have created your own propaganda that you so blindly believe.
საქართველო - SkipBlue, on 08/18/2008, -6/+25Georgia attacked the Russian peace* keepers, because the peace* keepers were backing the separatist forces.
*peace may be declined for bold aggression in cases of Putin. - fungusmonkey, on 08/19/2008, -1/+17Stupid, stupid Russia... didn't you get the memo? All you have to do is label the Georgians as terrorists and make up some stuff about WMDs... THEN you get to kill them without anyone caring.
You'll be greeted as liberators.
*cough*sarcasm*cough* - donkz, on 08/19/2008, -6/+22what would Russia attach Estonia for? Oiled sardines?
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -1/+16no one wins in a nuclear fight
we all lose - poidh, on 08/19/2008, -10/+25I come to Estonia every year with my mates, because we think it's a great country. We like to drink, shoot, go karting, go bowling and of course visit the strip clubs, and all in the compact and attractive city of Tallinn.
Tallinn is a very civilised city and the Estonian people are very decent.
In fact, the only problems we've ever had in Estonia has been from the ethnic Russians, who seem to enjoy fighting as if it's the only way they can feel like real men. - Speed, on 08/19/2008, -4/+19Yeah it does.
- volandkit, on 08/19/2008, -2/+17How good will NATO look if one of its members attacks its own province with bombs? How probable that other NATO members will participate in conflict with Russia? How probable that nuclear warheads will be used? How cheap your life will be after that? Do you still want a country with such retarded leader in NATO?
- LunaticFringe, on 08/19/2008, -1/+15Russia(to Georgia): If you keep using snipers against our soldiers when we signed the peace agreement, we /will/ ***** you up.
That's the thing. Even when Georgia declared they wanted peace, they were using Israeli covert military tactics to try and instigate things. Snipers and the like. - Enron, on 08/19/2008, -3/+18Haven't you played X-COM? Everyone knows a few nations will just sign a secret pact with the aliens.
- flashback99, on 08/19/2008, -4/+17*sigh*
"you leftists..[insert ***** here]" = bury - Jaablaze, on 08/19/2008, -1/+14This won't be like sending soliders to Iraq to fight insurgents. Any war with a major country like Russia or china would be devastating to the US.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -5/+18@No_SkillZ
Kosovo - A5204, on 08/13/2009, -4/+17I have to agree with you. I hope our government is smart enough to stay out of it (oh man, made myself chuckle there).
- brstilson, on 08/19/2008, -11/+24You mean when Georgia targeted soldiers of a foreign nation on their soil without their permission or consent.
- flashback99, on 08/19/2008, -1/+14isn't what you said a massive cliche from 60's conservatism?
- TheNik, on 08/19/2008, -2/+14Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what that means. :(
- Speed, on 08/19/2008, -2/+14Until Georgia started cracking down, South Ossetia was allowed to operate under de facto sovereignty. Georgia kind of has it coming when they allow an area to operate as though they are sovereign then suddenly starts cracking down.
Also, they do have reason to stay if that's where they were born and raised. Not their fault that their country fell apart. - volandkit, on 08/19/2008, -1/+12Let's ask them, why did they take passports in the first place...
- bentman78, on 08/19/2008, -4/+15I bet not...
- samimnot, on 08/19/2008, -4/+15"cross us and we will crush you"
Swear I heard Schwarzenegger say that in one of his movies... - Waiting2awake, on 08/19/2008, -0/+11They were clearly listening to someone, some group, that told them to do it. Who did they expect to help them? That is who started it.
- Waiting2awake, on 08/19/2008, -8/+19You really need to get a grip and stop letting fear rule you. It is starting to be embarrassing.
- orlyfactor, on 08/19/2008, -0/+11Read digg, of course.
- channelx, on 08/19/2008, -1/+12"If he dies, he dies" -- Ivan Drago
- thegrantman, on 08/19/2008, -3/+13"Russia has the capabilities;economic,political,and military." No,they don't. 1.They have never brought the military back to its' former strength after the end of the Cold War. 2.The current cash holdings they enjoy are a drop in the bucket when you compare that to the ongoing military budget of the U.S. Add to that the reports that their economy is slowing down. 3.Many Russian citizens can still remember the disaster that was,in part,a result of the last military escalation.I doubt they want to head in that direction again.
- Myonosken, on 08/19/2008, -1/+11Oh also that whole issue that the rest of the world would turn on you for attacking Russia given they aren't actively attacking your nation.
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