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Russian Plane Invades Airspace. Shot Down. Russia Denies

reuters.com — According to Republic of Georgia, two Russian planes briefly violated its border. "The day before yesterday at 22:24 in the mountains of upper Abkhazia we opened fire on a Russian plane, after which we heard an explosion," Shota Utiashvili told Reuters on Friday. Two weeks ago it accused Russian jets of dropping a missile near its capital.

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  • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -30/+3Probably Georgia is fighting with aliens? Very "adequate" country. By the way, very few in the "democratic" world notice that opposition figures were condemned for 8 years in prison in Georgia.
    • verge, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22Hello Russian PR man/agent. Spin away http://www.neaveru.com/digg/stats/trovoltex/days/90
      • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -14/+2Hello from KGB and Putin. I don't hide that I am Russian. Just watching "democratic" press here.
        • Steamy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I take it you're one of the Nashi patrolling Digg?
          • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -10/+2Idiots. I am techgeek.
            But OK, I will stop to make peace and understanding between our nations. Tired of it, waste of time.
      • sekhui, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5nice site verge. thanks.
      • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Oh *****! You just outed one of our best Digg agents! It wasn't an easy task, so it must have taken a good deal of effort and didication. I mean, we've spent many years setting up a cover for the guy. You win this time. Let me congratulate you by taking you out for some sushi and tea. Please, contact me by e-mail at mrpolonium@kgb.su.
  • RadiantBeing, on 10/10/2007, -14/+57Wow, it must suck living under Russia's shadow. The sooner we get Georgia and similar countries into the EU and protected by the permanent security guaranty represented by missile shield bases, the better. Russia is gangster drunk on its new found oil wealth. I wouldn't be surprised if it decided to "plant a flag" on one of its neigbors.
    • datcrazydj, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9Heh. Gangster drunk.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5Russia is no longer going to sit idly while you surround and undermine it.
      • Xanium4332, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13we're not going to undermine it, we're going to mineunder it so we can get the oil :)
    • Flytrap, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Jeez, I wonder how the United States (or any regional or global power for that matter) would respond in a similar position, surrounded by increasingly hostile neighbours sponsored by foreign powers intend on keeping it down and gaining free access to its mineral wealth.

      Russia is not Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran, so regime change is not an option as a means to getting to its mineral wealth, so we try to bait them into a proxy war that will hopefully create sufficient internal social and political instability for us to influence the political outcome.

      Not going to happen, folks. Get that through your heads now. Putin has placed Kremlin loyalists in all key bureaucratic positions and entrenched the power of former KGB/FSB stalwarts.
      • noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hostile neighbors?
        • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Yes, they're not willingly handing over their natural resources to the russian oligarchs or installing Kremlin hand-puppets for leadership, and they even have the gall to try to stop Russias paid and FSB-trained and FSB-equipped insurgents who's trying to hand over the oil wells to Russia. That counts as being hostile against Russia now.

          Of course, that's not what it says in Russian press, which is now completely run by the FSB. In Russian press Georgia is eating russian babies, pretty much literally, while the peace-loving Russian military is reluctantly forced to defend itself against ever more Georgian aggression. That the Georgian military is microscopic, underequipped and underfunded compared to the Russian military, that Georgia is a sovereign country, and that Russia for years has been trying to destabilize Georgia financially, and by creating, equipping, and funding a separatist movement, and by assassinations, doesn't figure largely in Russian press. Not at all, actually.
          • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Tell us more jokes about Russia, Junkyarddawg!
          • BabyWookie, on 10/26/2007, -1/+2@trovoltex: The boy sure does have a rich imagination. The Borat guy should hire him to make up some more stories for the background of the fictional conflict between the Great Country of Kazakhstan and those "Uzbek ingrates".
    • dinostabOMG, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4My guess is it will be a long while before Georgia joins the EU, if at all.
      • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yes. Russia has France and Germany by the balls with the oil and gas. They're completely dependent on the russian gas and oil, and so can't do anything at all which upsets russia. And Russia would be very upset by a Georgian membership in NATO, or even worse EU.
    • kurtwinter, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Because we all know how well Russia responds to putting armed bases near its borders. WWIII almost started when they tried doing the same to us in Cuba.
      • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2In response to US move in Turkey, bu the way!
    • maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1US would just nuke them.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1If Russia planted its flag in Georgia, it would be a huge improvement and would be welcomes by most of Georgia's people, who are now sick and tired of this corrupt, US-paid and puppeted government constantly provoking fights with Russia and costing them Russian business. They realize that their future is within the sphere of influence of the brotherly, Orthodox Christian Russia and not with the West, with whom they share no cultural ties who doesn't really give a ***** about them.

      Permanent security guaranteed by the missile shield? Wow. You're funny.
      • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yes, the Georgian civilian population is just aching to be invaded and conquered!

        Much like the Chechen civilian population was. They loved it so much that Russia had to spend seven years raping, murdering and pillaging, destroying every single building in the Chechen capital, killing 10% of the population (consider that: that's every tenth person in the entire country! For comparison, if the highest estimates are true, the US still hasn't killed 1% of the Iraqi population) and install the worst islamist war criminal of the war as president to pacify the country.
        But it ended happily: Russia's now got a sockpuppet on the throne, and Chechnyas natural resources are now owned by Putin and his closest buddies.

        Naturally the Georgians are just ACHING to have the same de-luxe treatment!
        • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Chechnya is a very complex issue and I am getting tired explaining it to people who are only familiar with it on the surface level. During its brief self-rule, the only foreign government to recognize Chechnya's (Ichkeria's) independence was the Taliban, the country didn't have an effective central government and the local warlords profiteered through arms/drug/human slave trafficking, kidnapping for ransom, etc. It was a hell-hole. After 7 British telecom workers were found beheaded and other similar events, not many foreigners were brave enough to come there. Eventually, the warlords expanded their activities beyond Chechnya's border and then tried to spread Jihad into Dagestan. Russia finally had to put a end to this crap. Many tragic things have occurred over there in the recent past, many mistakes have been make, but still, Russia had no choice but to go in and restore order and insure that Chechnya remains a subject of the Federation. The Chechen conflicts caught the Russian military in the period of its lowest morale and battle-readiness ever. There's no denying that the wars could've been conducted much better.

          Now let's talk about Kadyrov. Yes, he's not the ideal option, but he is not as bad as you make him out to be either. You should see what the down-town Grozny is starting to look like right now. It's rather nice. Check it out --> http://englishrussia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=700
          Russia is pumping a lot of money into the reconstruction and it is getting done.

          By the way, the only way the US is going to "win" in Iraq is if they find their own Kadyrov - some guy that's feared, respects and is able to restore order, by brute force, if necessary. Too bad Saddam is no longer available.

          Georgia is a completely different situation though. Get rid of the puppet government and the NATO-trained Elite Guards with surgical bombing strikes and the situation will resolve itself.
    • Frnnkdlxx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1http://digg.com/world_news/Putin_pushing_to_resume_Cold_War
      Let it be known that there's profit in the stratification of nations and the building of war machines. We all know there's money in the preparation and waging of war. There's the glory aspect, the unification of the populations, the fear that further allows you to control them and relinquish more of their rights, there's the increase of gov't controls and ...did I already say money in war? Oh yeah....

      Research deeper into Antony sutton and the fruits of his research. You'll see what I'm talking about. This is nothing more than a ruse to create a new false cold war "terror" atmosphere. What better excuse for the government to restrict more of your God given rights? Whether you believe in a God or not.
  • Steamy, on 10/10/2007, -8/+41The west in general, and the US in particular, NEEDS to protect Georgia, Ukraine, Khazakhstan, and Estonia against further Russian aggression. It really is of "vital national security", that phrase which has been thrown around so much and so baselessly in various terrorist cases that it's now almost devoid of meaning - but keeping Russia from getting full control over all asian oil, which is what this is about, really is.

    Then there's the moral dimension: the numerous atrocities and violations of international law Russia has committed against any breakaway republic trying to orient itself towards the west. We're talking things like trying to assassinate the president of the Ukraine, bankrolling the opposition in Ukraine and Georgia, destabilizing economies by "accidentally" stopping oil and gas deliveries, torture and other harassment against Georgian nationals in Russia, blackmail against Germany and France (again by "accidental" halting of oil and gas deliveries) and a long string of harassment and murders of journalists trying to cover either the illegal occupation of Chechnya or the aggression against Ukraine and Georgia.

    In short, the west has both a vital self-interest AND a moral obligation to support the former eastern-bloc states wanting closer ties to the west.
    • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -16/+6It's really scare that US ruined some countries and there's still a propaganda (as I read above) to fight against "Russian aggression". Want to fight Russia now? Then fight and stop talking. If you want to live in peace - stop playing idiots.
    • OBJECTinMOTION, on 10/26/2007, -6/+7@steamy: I hate to admit this to myself, but it's difficult to see how the USA, a country that couldn't manage to organize and coordinate for emergency food and water to be brought into downtown New Orleans (during Katrina) could somehow manage to coordinate the "protection" of an entire foreign country overseas: The Republic of Georgia.

      We see how that is going in Iraq. The way things are going for the USA for now, I don't think they would be in a position to do much if Russia decided to invade Georgia, or the Ukraine. Those nations are available for the taking, if Russia really wants them back. (And then Russia will end up with it's own Iraq-like situation.)
      • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I think there is truth in that, although the problem isn't really to support Georgia, it's to do it in a way which doesn't set off the labile leadership of Russia.
      • noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Hmm... then I suppose you wouldn't believe we're already training their armed forces to protect themselves.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -12/+6"The west in general, and the US in particular, NEEDS to protect Georgia, Ukraine, Khazakhstan, and Estonia against further Russian aggression."

      Who is going to protect Russia against the NATO aggression and expansion that has been going on ever since fall of the "Iron Curtain"? How many broken promises, spits in the face and openly aggressive moves can Russia tolerate? The US, in particular has no business participating in the geopolitical isolation and strangulation of the Russian Federation. Seriously, piss off.

      "It really is of "vital national security", that phrase which has been thrown around so much and so baselessly in various terrorist cases that it's now almost devoid of meaning - but keeping Russia from getting full control over all asian oil, which is what this is about, really is."

      The NATO allies have been doing everything to undermine the Russian interests in Central Asia ever since the break-up of the USSR. Luckily, lately their efforts have been failing.

      "Then there's the moral dimension: the numerous atrocities and violations of international law Russia has committed against any breakaway republic trying to orient itself towards the west."

      Please... More baseless accusations and propagandistic demagoguery.

      "We're talking things like trying to assassinate the president of the Ukraine"

      Do you have any evidence to support this, beside a bunch of speculations by Russia's enemies?

      "bankrolling the opposition in Ukraine and Georgia"

      LOL. NATO and the US have been bank-rolling the anti-Russian interests in those countries for years and are currently trying to bank-roll the retarded opposition they got going in Russia. The current Georgian government's paychecks come directly from Washington.

      "destabilizing economies by "accidentally" stopping oil and gas deliveries"

      Do you live in an apartment, by any chance? This like not paying your rent for a year and then accusing your landlord of "accidentally" evicting you.

      "torture and other harassment against Georgian nationals in Russia"

      Torture? Please. Harassment? Guess what, the US government "harasses" illegal immigrants too, if that's what you want to call it. There's probably more Georgians living in Russia right now than there are in Georgia. That's gotta tell you something. Some of the most popular and respected actors, singers, etc in Russia are Georgians.

      "blackmail against Germany and France (again by "accidental" halting of oil and gas deliveries)"

      It's not "accidental" when Belarus or Lithuania cuts off a pipe line that you have running through their country, because they don't like paying their bills.

      "and a long string of harassment and murders of journalists trying to cover either the illegal occupation of Chechnya or the aggression against Ukraine and Georgia."

      Russia's "illegal" occupation of Russian territory? Yeah, whatever. Which countries and international institutions ever recognized Chechnian Independence? Only the Taliban? Whoops...

      "In short, the west has both a vital self-interest AND a moral obligation to support the former eastern-bloc states wanting closer ties to the west."

      The West does not really give a ***** about these people. It's all about natural resources and undermining Russia. Sad, but true. Russia has no choice but to react.
      • kingvik, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6comment, not essay
        • sp0rk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3He just quoted a lot, and then his comment got ***** up because Digg isn't so good at handling line breaks.
      • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Your response is mostly interesting as it's very much a reflection of the Russian official position: Russia isn't the aggressor, it invaded Chechnya and is now gearing up to invade Georgia _in defence_. That this doesn't make any sense at all doesn't matter when you OWN the press and the courts, as Putin does in Russia: the official version stands unopposed.
        Now, I don't know, perhaps you're paid to believe the official version, but if you're simply overly nationalistic, educate yourself. You could, for instance, sign up for Radio Free Europes news mailing list http://www.rferl.org/
        It's very good, and you'll get news the Russian media will never carry.
        • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Once again, when it comes to Chechnya, it cannot be called an "invasion". You can't invade a part of your own country that has been taken over by a band of extremist thugs, who then harassed or ethnically cleansed all those who opposed them and then claimed independence, based on the results of the post-ethnic cleansing national referendum. An independence that was only recognized by Taliban.

          As far as for me going to Radio Free Europe to get the truth about Russia..... that would be like me referring you to Goebbels for objective news on Poland, just before the start of WW2. Should I go to kavkaz.org to get the truth on Chechnya too? You're funny.

          Oh... and I am not "overly nationalistic". I just get sick to my stomach when I see slander and twisted truths used to suit an agenda.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5Sigh... The new comment system strikes again and completely ***** up the formatting of my post, making it unreadable. Are they ever going to fix this *****?
      • TheCount, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3The digg commenting system was never meant for publishing novels.
        • KOSmurfy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That doesn't explain why it sucks so bad though.
    • diggGor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2We all can see how the US "protects" Iraq... Thanks, but no, thanks.
    • MCDupree, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Is it all about oil?
    • SickFinga, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Steamy, you are asking for help from a country that did everything that Russia pretty much did. USA doesn't care about all those countries, they only care about what they can get out of them. Haven't you learn anything? Today they help you, tomorrow they "bring democracy to your country" (Iraq, Afghanistan (bin laden)).
      You say illegal occupation of Chechnya, I say illegal occupation of Iraq. You say aggression against Ukraine and Georgia, I say aggression against Cuba and Venezuela.
      Russia and USA are two sides of the same coin.
      • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Except in Russia and Ukraine is a kind of the same nation and with Georgia we have 500-700 ties.
    • Elistra, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Steamy: I'm sorry to tell you this, but its not in our best interests to get involved in another fight that isn't our business. If something really needs to be done let France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and/or some Scandinavian country handle it this time around.

      I would prefer if we stopped wasting our resources trying to police the world. Even if you don't agree with that opinion, hopefully you can understand that we are a little bit busy at the moment with our own wars. It also might be interesting to get to complain and second guess some other country and its handling of a war.
    • comradevik, on 10/26/2007, -4/+3The east in general, and Russia in particular, NEEDS to protect Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and other poor Middle Eastern countries against further US and Israeli aggression.
    • sctwp09, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1We don't need to do ***** for those bitch ass countries. They need to worry about themselves. We should worry about our own domestic issues.
  • torched, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I read the full report yesterday, I don't think they shot it down I think they shot AT it but they didn't shoot it down to the ground.
  • MrRedneck, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11"Russia is gangster drunk on its new found oil wealth." - Sadly true
    • LordSlashstab55, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1must realize who the real oil baron is.
      • tuntcickle, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0must realize who the real gangster drunk is. WHITE PEOPLE IN DOORAGS
    • vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5As opposed to the USA which is oil starved crack fiend breaking into other countries to get their fix?
  • Insanekingkong, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19Cold War 2
    • devin_mm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Cold War 2: "This time things are heating up"
      or how about
      Cold War 2: "Out for revenge"
      • FreakTrap, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You should really use 2.0 rather than 2, it has a nice ring to it.
      • duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Cold War II: Electric Boogaloo
    • swiftekho, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Ironically "Back In the USSR" by the Beatles just came up in my iTunes... -.-"
    • Sp00k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I think you mean Cold War 2.0 ;)
  • scarfo1984, on 10/10/2007, -14/+8let russia do what it has to do...we do not need to protect anyone but ourselves...russia is only a threat if we see them as a threat...
    • toxictonic, on 10/10/2007, -7/+10"let the nazis do what they have to do...we do not need to protect anyone but ourselves...the nazis are only a threat if we see them as a threat..."
      • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Sigh... Godwin strikes yet again.
        • noahhoward, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4No, history strikes again, forget your stupid law.

    • Abennobashi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4you're a ***** idiot.
      • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Да заябись ты уже, мудак.
  • dumuzi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24Привет!
    • FeartheKnighted, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6Kill the commie bastard!
    • ORBAT, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The only good Russian is a dead Russian (Пошол на хуи)
    • FreakTrap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"Automatically translated text: Привет! - Hi!"
  • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -16/+4Georgia is like this sad little kid throwing tantrums because it's so starved for attention.
    • Abennobashi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9you're also an idiot.
      • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Can't beat that well thought-out argument!
        • mrFREEZE, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4He's just stating facts.
        • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@mrFREEZE: Thanks for the explanation, *****-for-brains.
      • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You're also some kind of a funny little douche and should really go and shove something up your ass.... maybe Junkyarddawg will go ahead help you with that.
  • zohar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15The one sure way to start a World War III would be if America and Russia get involved in a fight.
    • Abennobashi, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2you're an idiot as well.
      • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1No, seriously, ябало заткни уже, а?
    • Rivenexe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Russia and US are no more countries that capable of global war. But China...
      • Frosty122, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0yeah wanna say that to the face of our 25k nukes?
  • Wizer04, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Those countries are up for grabs, unless they join the EU or NATO.
  • Matthew720, on 10/10/2007, -6/+27In the U.S. there are more than 200 TV channels. In Soviet Russia there are two; On channel 1 there's government propaganda, on channel 2 there's a KGB officer instructing you to switch back to channel 1.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Good one, Jackoff Smirnoff.
    • EmailAddress, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Don't like 4 or 5 companies own all the media in the USA? One large company may own tens of TV channels...
      • Frosty122, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1viacom
      • Matthew720, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Yes. You're right on the money. Corporatism is no different than fascism, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to tell a Soviet Russia joke.

        1. General Electric ~ NBC
        2. Time Warner ~ WB, CNN
        3.The Walt Disney Co. ~ ABC
        4. Viacom ~ CBS, UPN, MTV
        5. News Corporation ~ FOX NEWS
        • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The difference being that Bush doesn't decide what may or may not be broadcast on ALL those networks, plus all newspapers.
          Putin does.
    • FreakTrap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1200?

      Switch now to DirectTV and enjoy over nine thousand channels of high-quality, direct to your home telivision programming!
      • Matthew720, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've got Fios TV with more channels than I need. Personally, I think TV will cook your brain and the MSM is one big propaganda machine.
  • fr0ng, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10How do you 'drop' a missile?
  • Pureeviljester, on 10/10/2007, -6/+18Guys don't worry. Nothings gonna happen because we are focusing on the real threat. Iran, the country that isn't doing anything.
    /sarcasm
    • Abennobashi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2it really shouldn't be considered sarcasm if you have to tell people you're being sarcastic.
  • lex0429, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1ill care about this story when its the state of georgia with russian planes flying over heard. actually then i wont either
  • JasonCox, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4Though shalt not piss of Moscow.
  • JJsays, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2ya, Russians are back. They always look great crashing to the ground.
  • Caleb83, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3This sounds familiar. Old news, or history repeating itself? All I can say is I'm not surprised.
  • TroubleInMind, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6How do I shot planes?
  • drewfer, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2In Soviet Russia, plane shoots you!
  • crapmatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Guys guys... no fighting in the war room!
  • chicofaraby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9There was a time when the USA might have been able to apply diplomatic pressure on both parties to cool down the situation.

    But it's not like the Bush administarion has any moral high ground about invading small nations that were never a threat.
    • ravage86, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2This is between Russia and Georgia, it's none of our damn business and we should stay out of it.
    • Diorhomme, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Do you know what MYOFB stands for?
      MIND YOUR OWN ***** BUSINESS.
      Russia wouldn't give 2 ***** about you messing around with Mexico, trust me.
      • chicofaraby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I agree that this isn't the USAs business. My post was a reminder that at one point the USA could have offered to mediate talks. I never have or would recommend that the USA stick its nose into this or any other conflict in any other way. And I certainly can't take offense if any nation would refuse to allow the USA to mediate in today's conditions.
  • luskin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Back in the USSR...
  • scabbers, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3No, let's play global thermonuclear warfare.
  • mirokoi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1It's good to see the pentagon sock puppets are being well fed.
    At least we're getting a little bit away from failed kidney dead guys and back to the good stuff - mutually assured destruction and oil.. there's a lot more mileage to get out of that.
    You work that dialetic, Hegel.
  • Hoxie, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1In soviet Russia, plane shoots down YOU!
  • insinuate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Top Gun mofo
  • deathguppie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t8UQokopCY
  • iamshades, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Georgia: You invaded our airspace!
    Russia: DID NOT! NA NA NANA NAAAA!
    • trovoltex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's contrary in reality:
      Georgia: You invaded our airspace many times! You drop bomb which was not explosed. Also we shot down your airplane! US agrees with us. BTW, we elliminated all evidences.... NA NA NANA NAAAA!
      Russia: What the ***** are you talking about?
  • maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Putinsoft is pleased to announce the release of the all new, upgraded, Soviet Union 2.0. After a long development cycle, during which 1.0 was withdrawn from the market due to various bugs and a stability problem toward the end of the release cycle, the central pogrom team has finally realeased the alpha version of our new release.

    Planned features are:
    - Bigger and better gulag features.
    - Less dissent
    - Shorter lines for toilet paper
    - Central control that actually works.
    - Full integration with EU 1.0 (soon to be merged)

    Coming soon to a country near you!
  • jpee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0America ? They love this news. another 30 billion dollers sales of weopon, this time to Georgia!. how long they can have same customer base isreal, saudi, japan.... !!
  • Diorhomme, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0try :)
  • hmunkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Wow. Russia is doing some stupid things these days. We should get out of Iraq and watch our back.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah. Because Russia projecting influence in its own neighborhood is somehow US' business. Right.
  • Mk3890, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Russia's air force must be bored or something.
  • leha, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Why everybody believe what Georgian government says? Just because they are "friends" of US and EU? Georgia is ruled by some insane people who drove their population into extreme poverty. Not only this but they also have a plan to invade broke away provinces of South Osetia and Abhasia as soon as russian peace keepers get out of there (Georgia staged wars against these regions already in the past and lost due to resistance of local population, now they want to try again using army that was trained by US). All these "incidents" are not new, there were happening for the last 4-5 years. Basically new georgian government promised that it would "restore" Georgia and considering their poor economic situation this it the only hope for them to stay in power.

    Look on the map of Georgia and its neighbors and try to answer the question: who is the main trade partner of Georgia? Here is the hint: main things they can produce for export in these mountains are fruits, flowers and tourism. Will Iranians, Turks, Armenians etc. buy any of these things? I don't think so, they can make this stuff themselves. How would you call a government that pisses all over its main trade partner? Russia hates Georgia so much that till 2005-2006 were selling gas oil and electricity at a fraction of free market price.
    • jamyz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Now to laugh at you:
      "Why everybody believe what Georgian government says? Just because they are "friends" of US and EU? Georgia is ruled by some insane people who drove their population into extreme poverty."

      Georgia's economy these days is growingfaster that the Russian economy, the extreme poverty you speak of was when they were being governed by pro-russian puppets.

      "Not only this but they also have a plan to invade broke away provinces of South Osetia and Abhasia as soon as russian peace keepers get out of there (Georgia staged wars against these regions already in the past and lost due to resistance of local population"

      Hey, worked for Russia in Chechnya, hypocrite.

      ", now they want to try again using army that was trained by US). All these "incidents" are not new, there were happening for the last 4-5 years. Basically new georgian government promised that it would "restore" Georgia and considering their poor economic situation this it the only hope for them to stay in power. "

      Again Georgia's economy is currently growing at an astounding rate, and without natural rents also, their poeple must be much better quality than the average Russian - mind you thats not hard.

      "Look on the map of Georgia and its neighbors and try to answer the question: who is the main trade partner of Georgia? Here is the hint: main things they can produce for export in these mountains are fruits, flowers and tourism."

      Georgia has reorientated its markets away from Russia (towards EU countries) and found that to be highly successful, they should thank Russia for that, after all it was Russia who put sanctions on them forcing them to do that, pointing to a Russian double standard, when other sanctions are discussed.

      "Russia hates Georgia so much that till 2005-2006 were selling gas oil and electricity at a fraction of free market price."

      Until a little time after the kremlins puppet got kicked out of office. Fortunately Georgia has been forward thinking its gas strategy too, and is now much less reliant on the cheka run monster to North
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@ jamyz:

      "Georgia's economy these days is growing faster that the Russian economy, the extreme poverty you speak of was when they were being governed by pro-russian puppets."

      I wonder how it would be growing without all the EU and US monetary aid being thrown at them, just to stick it to Russia?
      Also, although Shevardnadze did want friendly, neighborly relations with RF, he was no Russian puppet. If he was, don't you think that Abkhazia and South Ossetia would be part of RF right now?

      "Hey, worked for Russia in Chechnya, hypocrite."

      Luckily, Abkhazia and South Ossetia and not ran by murderous, extremist warlords.

      "Again Georgia's economy is currently growing at an astounding rate, and without natural rents also, their people must be much better quality than the average Russian - mind you thats not hard."

      Their economy is growing fast, although 108% of zero is still a zero. Still, the EU and US subsidies are working. As far as them living better than the Russians - that must be ***** why so many of them still immigrate to Russia every year. Right.

      "Georgia has reorientated its markets away from Russia (towards EU countries) and found that to be highly successful, they should thank Russia for that, after all it was Russia who put sanctions on them forcing them to do that, pointing to a Russian double standard, when other sanctions are discussed."

      Wow. You are really deluded.
  • MewtwoReturns, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You know you spend too much time playing video games when you read "Invades Airspace" and your mind perceives that as "Space Invaders."
  • smek2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1The US did the same with russian airspace, eventually resulting in the start of the cold war era. Remember that US pilot who got shot down over russia (and eventually returned unharmed)?
    • BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The U-2 spy plane flights over the USSR began when the Cold War was already in full swing.
  • blindflacker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wait, who will the US support? The EU has become a large economic power and it may benefit us more by supporting our old enemy by selling them our old military surplus. We didn't just get democracy from France, but we got their style of 'diplomacy'.
    • Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Who should the US support? Whichever is the lesser threat.

      As it happens, the EU is rich and has four or five decent national armies, but does not have a "federal" army, and is so internally divided it could not agree on *anything* sufficiently to organize even a softball tournament, while Russia is rich, unified, expansionist, and aggressive.

      As of right now, and barring EU consolidation and creation of a serious federal army, Russia is the greater threat.
    • Erythroxylum, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1What's the EU got to do with all of this; this is between Russia and Georgia. I mean, I despise the EU as much as the next sane individual, but let's be fair.
  • digg4cure, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Please dig guys, I'm from Georgia and I know everything that is happening there. South oSetins bombed Georgian civilians for 4 days untill and did not want to stop fire, this is why Georgia had to conduct a police action in the region. It was so far successful, but now Russia is Bpmbing and attacking a sovereign country!!!!! Plese digg, spred the word, Georgia needs support like never before. Russia is keeping it's promise to "Do whatever it takes to stop Georgia join Nato"
  • DonQueso, on 08/18/2008, -1/+1digg4cure, you're ***** out of luck here. these guys all blame georgia......and bury anything to the contrary......you know, like russian missiles in south ossetia.

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