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Russian Military Invades West Georgia
littlegreenfootballs.com — A very dangerous situation is getting worse, as the Russian military moves into Georgia from the west while Georgian forces are engaged in South Ossetia. TBILISI, Georgia - Russia opened a second front of fighting in Georgia on Monday, sending...
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- bluto36, on 08/11/2008, -1/+8US goes to the UN and gets approval and the lefty world goes ape ***** about the evil US. Russia invades a sovereign country with no UN approval and the lefty world is silent or blaming the US. good job lefty's
- Maninthemiddle, on 08/11/2008, -1/+8I am sickened by the left's rationalizing and obfuscating the actions of the Russians.
As I have said for the last week - this is purely about Georgia's dalliance with the West, and that nice fat pipeline that is an obstacle to Russia's hegemony over supplies to Europe - as is their oil port.
It is being reported that the port facilities - through which 1 million barrels a day flow - has been destroyed. The capital of Tbilisi has been bombed.
The pipeline has been attacked several times, and has been reported damaged.
The Russians not only have bombed Georgian targets in the western province of Abkhazia, but have massed significant armor and mechanized infantry.
Abkhazia (which is part of Georgia), you see, is flat - all the better to sweep into central Georgia if the conflict continues. AND NOW THEY HAVE DONE SO - just as predicted. (Sorry - I felt the need to raise my voice.)
I too had hopes for a change in the new Russia. At this point, however, support of Putin ranks of the same mental detritus that led the far left to - for so many years - bestow moral equivalency with the West on the Soviet Union.
This really is about imperialism and oil. - Chip53, on 08/11/2008, -1/+4If Bush takes on Putin he'll be called a crazy warmonger, if he doesn't he'll be called a coward. Still want the job Obama? It would seem there's more to it than making pretty speeches. Frankly, I don't think you have the balls for it. In the meantime, the guy who still has the job must make the call. Mr President, you have the microphone.
- Jrogan, on 08/12/2008, -3/+1You people are so stupid, you make me sick with your propaganda garbage.
Georgia launched a sneak attack against South Ossetia...an area that voted over 90% to break away from Georgia and rejoin the USSR in the early 90's. 1000's of civilians were killed along with hundreds of Russian peace keeping troops put there with the approval and acknowledgment of the Georgian government.
Georgia attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Russia retaliated GET IT FOOLS - Maninthemiddle, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3Jrogan - you speak with only part of the picture in mind. While I agree that Georgia's actions were unwise, there were so because this was a well orchestrated trap.
"On August 6th Socor reported that “heavily armed proxy troops opened fire on Georgian villages, while the secessionist authorities refused to talk with Tbilisi.” The attacks escalated. Socor states: “The attacking forces began destroying the transmission antennae of Georgian mobile telephone systems. Arms and paramilitary groups poured in from Russia to South Ossetia through the Russian-controlled Roki tunnel. Russian officials in Georgia claimed that the attacking forces were out of Russia’s control. Officials in Moscow, meanwhile, justified the attacks directly and indirectly by accusing Georgia of aggression.”
...and this...
"At 7:00 P.M. local time on August 7, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili spoke live on national television, announcing a unilateral ceasefire and asking the other side also to cease hostilities. In highly conciliatory words, Saakashvili called for talks “in any format”; reaffirmed the long-standing offer of full autonomy for South Ossetia; proposed that Russia should guarantee that solution; offered a general amnesty; and pleaded for international intercession to stop the hostilities (Rustavi-2 TV, August 7).
Following Saakashvili’s address, attacks on Georgian villages intensified. The village of Avnevi was almost completely destroyed, Tamarasheni and Prisi shelled, and the police station in Kurta, seat of the Sanakoyev administration, smashed by artillery fire. Civilians began fleeing the villages.
These attacks forced Tbilisi to take defensive action. By 10:30 P.M. local time on August 7 the Georgians returned fire. During the night, Georgian forces including armored columns began advancing toward Tskhinvali, the secessionist authorities’ administrative center."
Again, I say that this was a mistake - but even when moderated for Georgian slant, the public announcements are a matter of record, as are the attacks on Georgian villages.
Do you understand the logistical planning that is required to ready large mechanized units for the type of action Russia launched?
One can debate the eventual fate of South Ossetia and Georgia's attempts to keep them in the fold.
Those with empathy toward Russia might wish otherwise, but this current blunt force action by Russia is purely about Georgia's dalliance with the West, and the Trans-Caucus pipeline.
In other words, imperialism and oil.- bluto36, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3but the Russian news reported that Georgia attacked without provocation...
- Maninthemiddle, on 08/12/2008, -0/+2Howdy Bluto...
You're right - my faux pas - Putin said they have a free press. Free to print Czar Putin's version of reality or they get sudden onset radiation poisoning.
I'm not sure why Bush's temperate initial reaction. Apparently Putin told him recently that Ukraine "wasn't a real nation" - might of been a hint of his attitude toward Georgia.
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