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- drallafi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+64There's no winner in a nuclear war.
- archer104, on 10/10/2007, -6/+57Oh yeah, well we have Mexico! Aw who am I kidding? We just hang around them to look less fat.
- Conwaysb0718, on 10/10/2007, -8/+38And you'd get conquered in a half second and enslaved. Then you can use your awesome education to increase the power & money of your new warmongering overlords. Not everyone has a live and let live set of beliefs. "To secure peace is to prepare for war." There's a reason animals dont ***** around with the porcupine.
- Hawking, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33Thread over.
- KidVicious, on 10/10/2007, -0/+26Underestimating your enemy is a dangerous mistake to make. No one knows what kind of advancements Russia or China could be making behind closed doors. Plus, they're already nuclear superpowers; the end-all be-all of country to country intimidation.
- KidVicious, on 10/10/2007, -8/+34Our strained military vs Russia AND China? Holy ***** we are *****.
- professor0fruit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+27If you've ever been in the military you would know that we do stuff like that all the time. We've been training with Japanese for the past 20 years and countless other countries also.
- SickFinga, on 10/10/2007, -8/+33China alone can strangle US economically enough that it will be 1991 again, but this time it will be USA. And once that happens, I doubt US would have enough money to even cross the ocean. Digg me down all you want, but you know it's true.
- elnerdo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24Because we're fighting a mostly-nonexistant enemy in Iraq. Even with the biggest gun in the world, you still can't kill your shadow.
- atdigg, on 10/10/2007, -6/+27That reminds me that Soviet Union held war games with Hitler's Germany (before it was invaded) -- it looks like they didn't learn anything...
- Julz, on 10/10/2007, -11/+31if America couldn't win the Vietnam war how the HELL to do u think you could win a war against China and Russia.... get over urself
- Pericle, on 10/10/2007, -9/+24Where's USA? Wait... USA is the enemy!
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Actually I would argue that display of military power can help to prevent actual military escalation. Animals in the wild do this same type of posturing, showing threatening fangs, growingly, puffing themselves up. All of this is actually to hopefully avoid conflict by demonstrating to possible aggressors that engagement was not worth the effort and potential risks.
Whenever the military is really concerned with the destruction of it's enemy it instantly becomes silent and secretive (think Manhattan project). This posturing exercises show that, while we are in a time of heightened aggression, major powers are actually working to avoid military engagement, just like animals in the wild do. - GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Well the problem is somebody in the US military feels there is a need to arm the enemy, to make it a fair fight.
- miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Maybe they'll just lace them with poison. I always say, if China wanted to go to war with the US, they need only poison the food imports, toys, toothpaste...ooops.
- vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14The US would basically be able to pull a Pearl Harbor on both the Russians and Chinese and dominate the skies, seas, and land for about 6-12 months.
But any full scale war that lasts longer than 12 months would put us at a disadvantage strategically.
1. Trained Manpower
We rely on a well trained but very small in comparison volunteer army. The US army would break after 500,000 casualties without a draft and as we have seen in other wars as soon was we start drafting then we get lower quality troops.
2. Our oil reserves would be in danger.
China would have Russia to fall back on and out of all nations Russia is one of the few who actually exports oil. Considering that the middle east in missile range of both China and Russia, they could destroy the oil resources in Iraq and Saudi Arabia. The US would be forced to occupy Venezuela tying down badly needed troops needed in Korea/Japan and Poland.
Even then that isn't preventing the Venuzelans from destroying the refinderies and oil drills they have in place. It would take us months to get them up and running.
If that happened we'd have no more than 6 months fuel left for the US. We'd be able to produce synthetic oil well enough to keep our tanks, jets, and ships up and running but the whole US economy would collapse without enough gasoline. Then there would be no more money to fund the war and military complex would collapse in on itself.
Althought it would be interesting if the US could pull together for "Total War" in which people worked in factories for free like they would in Soviet Era WWII Russia, but I don't know how that is going fly and even if we did win a white peace or one that favors the US we'd be bankrupt for a century.
There is a lot more than just beating an enemy on the battlefield. If that was all that was needed, Germany would have won WWII hands down since it had superior training and equipment.
But they didn't have enough fuel nor manpower to keep up with the Soviets and Allies. That is why they lost. - elnerdo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Switzerland also has a military, though.
- miriclaire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Certainly scaring the ***** out of their own people.
- patientXero, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17The American government is more or less completely unpredictable right now and bordering on a fascist state. We're probably scaring the ***** out of the bastards.
- elnerdo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14A war against an actual military is very different than a war against guerilla forces.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Actually there is little evidence of this. Historically it has always been war mongering nations that end up conquered because they are a threat to their neighbours. Switzerland tend to do well out of neutrality.
//edit - not that we shouldn't invest in the military but a lot of the military action taken today is entirely superfluous.// - fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Ok then. Korea. Who was it who popped into the north for coffee and sent the US and everyone else packing?
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Don't forget that a large army or the most expensive army isn't necessarily the best army.
The second highest funded army in the World is the UK's which is very small compared to America and China in terms of manpower but it means that the amount spent per soldier is a lot, lot higher and a lot of countries follow this pattern : well trained, highly armoured troops as opposed to sheer volume. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+17Put politely, you are a thick ***** *****.
Remember NAM? Yes, you guys are certainly doing well in Iraq..
You'd have no chance against either... If Bush was so bothered about 'threats' in the world, don't you think your "War President" would have tried it on with China by now? He doesn't want to start on a bigger bully... you'd be *****. - treelovinhippie, on 10/10/2007, -19/+28Why do countries have to showoff their military power all the time?
Good work! You have all these big pointy weapons, and expendable soldiers, and spend billions, upon billions of dollars essentially promoting violence. Yay! (/sarcasm)
If I ran a country I'd be showing off our awesome education system, health system, multicultural haven, environmental activities, community focus, aid work, responsible foreign policies, responsible internal policies, that we don't scare our people by making up "wars" (drugs, terrorism), that our political parties actually make an effort to work together to make the country a better place, that we don't treat our citizens like criminals (big brother, 'terrorist' prejudice, censorship), that we do have a very clear and distinct separation between church and state, etc etc etc etc etc - ap0c1, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12And soon our arms will come from China. And they will make it such that it fires backwards! We are in big *****!
- AlexGrant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Because the most primitive and basic purpose of a government is to tax the people so they can provide a military/protection. One would hope they were at least competent in this task. However, it will have to become a thing of the past at some point.
- byrdgang, on 10/10/2007, -7/+15Then why is it taking such a long time to battle insurgents in Iraq? If all this "we're hella mighty" talk really is true, the insurgents would have been knocked out in a few days after the insurgency began (through the army overwhelming the insurgents with all of its "might").
The US Army has lots of resources, but your resources are only as good as the people behind them. I am no military expert, but despite the advanced army the US has, Vietnam was able to put up on hell of a fight. I say Vietnam lasted so long because of its endurance and will. Compare the resources of the two countries, and you'll see the US has a lot more. So why did the US give up at one point? Maybe the Vietnamese weren't going to give up. - apollomurga, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Kazakhstan anyone?
- kelchm, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10You do realize that we ourselves conduct war games [with other countries] all the time, don't you?
- Coolwaters, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11Thank God we're ***** around in Iraq and Iran instead of dealing with the countries with electricity and *cough* inter-continental ***** weapons.
We need Reagan, but Ron Paul would do in a pinch. This is a pinch. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12more sabre rattling from Russia and China
wish we'd stop this military strength rubbish and just get along with each other - ChileanGoD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Seeing a lot of you guys argue, bragging and get exited on what army could destroy who just makes me loose most of my hopes for human survival in the future.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9They have emergency plans to attack the capital of Uzbekistan with their catapults.
- ap0c1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Let them strangle each other. I am off to Australia. Whoosh!
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Indeed. Like I pointed out below. The difference is between being warmongering retards who declare war at the drop of a hat and having a military but avoiding fighting unless forced to. The best approach is a strong army, diplomacy and a refusal to take sides.
- Displace, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Anybody actually read the captions to realize they're counter-terrorism war games?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Just buy them both an xbox 360, and save the poor people's income tax
- soil, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Dugg for using the word "dope" in a sentence, post 1990.
- sanman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5And why are the Taliban and AlQaeda still running around in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Sounds like the US has a way of redefining "victory" when it can't score one. - schlurp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Well what a relief that the russians and chinese don't have WMDs - oh wait.
- soil, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Anyone else think of this?
http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/Chinese_Scale_Model_of_Mountain_Range_for_Military_Training - Sep11insidejob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6It's a tie cause they all the capability of destroying everyone with all the nukes they have.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Yeah, 3rd world countries; I don’t see them making large holes in Asian and European countries.
- buildmorerobots, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5sh!t, how dope is the 7 picture of the fighter jet.
- phavn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Your history is very weak, go back to elementary school
- monkeyrun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5And Breaking News: President of Russia and China .... had .... LUNCH !!!
- scottman666, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Must... Crush... Capitalism...
- onimusha115, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5People who are digging this guy down are way too pro American, and are delusional to think that russia and china together is not a threat. Hell china alone is a threat, they are booming economically, have massive amounts of resources and people. If china were to stop shipping to the US our economy would be hurting. Lets just hope bush is out of office before he goes on some rampage over there thinking we need to fight them before they attack his daddy or some other bs.
- pennvneff, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ex-KGB ***** like Putin don't hold counter-terrorism war games, they plot.
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