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- inactive, on 11/06/2008, -5/+65The best Republican evar.
- Californication, on 11/06/2008, -6/+65So now, suddenly, the media likes Ron Paul?
Rat bastards. - Samurai77, on 11/06/2008, -4/+49More words from the wise, and the Republicans won't get anywhere until they put this man in the front, he would be president elect today if he got the nod for Rep Candidate.
- sheeplescareme, on 11/06/2008, -3/+39when the next generation studies this period in our history and hears the words of men like ron paul, they are going to be furious that we allowed his loss.
- Thinbev, on 11/06/2008, -5/+38He's so right. Obama will still keep fighting wars overseas. Obama will still keep our troops overseas in 700+ army bases in 140 countries.
Obama will still allow the Federal Reserve to stay in business while they inflate and devalue our money. Obama will still pass more laws to regulate our lives. Obama will keep over taxing and over spending which will eventually bankrupt our country and destroy our dollar.
Nothing will change. The special interests will still get their way. Nothing will change. - Daamien, on 11/06/2008, -4/+31"How can you balance the budget on the backs of sick people here at home on medical care? You've got to balance the budget by stopping all this ugly spending overseas that is so perpetual and it has brought it to our knees financially. You can't solve the financial crisis without dealing with foreign policy."
Liberals and conservatives alike should be in agreement with this statement. Ron Paul truly understands our nation's dire situation and takes a logical approach to address it's ails. His unique non-partisan perspective and unwavering support for the Constitution easily makes him the most trustworthy politician in Washington. It's a shame that he didn't get the Republican nomination, but hopefully his Campaign For Liberty movement will serve to expand the political discourse in America for many elections to come and inspire more limited government supporters of the Constitution to get involved.
Obama may now be my President, but Paul will remain my hero and inspiration. - inactive, on 11/06/2008, -3/+27Best line: "Well, it's interesting that I didn't get invited." (To Republican powwow which won't do ANY good for the party BECAUSE he didn't get invited!)
- hugolp, on 11/06/2008, -2/+20Its working for me.
- inactive, on 11/06/2008, -2/+19Exactly. And the whiners who claimed he had "no chance" to win were, as usual, full of *****. Reality, in the form of the current economic *****, has made it obvious that those of us who said Dr. Paul was the ONLY one with a chance were right. And we told them so (it's fun to say that now, because it upsets them so beautifully!)
- inactive, on 11/06/2008, -3/+18I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure most of those 7 candidates supported by the Liberty PAC were Republicans. Their victories are especially impressive since most Americans who voted on Tuesday are stupid and probably voted Democrat all the way down because of Obama. I'm not saying all Dems are stupid, I'm saying that people who vote for a candidate based on his party are stupid.
The C4L and Liberty PAC have just warmed up. The Revolution will continue. - muckemuck, on 11/06/2008, -2/+17He also didn't get invited to the RNC.. and thus the GOP and McCain lost even more support from conservatives.
GOP = neoconservatives = fail - inactive, on 11/06/2008, -1/+15Ron Paul. A trustworthy politician?
I previously thought that to be impossible. - dukeeeey, on 11/06/2008, -1/+13Obama voted for FISA. So much for change ..
- PeppermintPig, on 11/06/2008, -3/+15This country was founded on liberty, correct? Then why move? Some people are trying to work by example, and that's not always about working within the political system to effect change.
- alamedaman, on 11/06/2008, -4/+15www.campaignforliberty.com
- emazur, on 11/06/2008, -7/+18Ron Paul is dead on about Obama not being the peace candidate:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=1649 ...
I wrote that post a couple weeks ago but the evidence has piled on since then - zenithmbr, on 11/07/2008, -1/+11it's funny, i supported ron paul in the primaries and so did my girlfriend. when he lost the nomination i supported bob barr and she turned to obama. we were watching cnn for a spat today and they were mentioning that the auto industry wanted another 25 billion on top of the 25 billion they got in september and that obama wanted to give it to them. i was appalled and made some comments about how ridiculous it was. she just turned to me and said 'well what can we do about it? there's not a damn thing we can do'. and all i could think was that that's the kind of attitude that got mccain nominated for republican candidacy and obama elected president. everyone just thinks it's hopeless so they vote for the lesser of two evils and accept the ***** they're cramming down our throats. if the people that are fed up, and there are TONS of them, would educate themselves and vote their conscience, not just vote for who will do the least damage, we could get people like ron paul into office. until then we are just screwed, and we'll be paying for it the rest of our lives.
- henri3, on 11/07/2008, -1/+11Ron Paul is a true statesmen! :o)
- algaeturd, on 11/07/2008, -2/+12Why is it so tough to find more politicians who aren't afraid to criticize their own party and admit that they ***** up? On both sides? If the republicans would kick out the fundamentalists and neo-cons, they'd be a popular party.
The ideals of the republican party were strong, they just aren't there anymore at all. - MrFunStuff, on 11/06/2008, -2/+12O ya and going to a gold standard is a good idea Y becomes it is (Stable) and our current system, a fiat monetary system is (Unstable).
fiat systems will eventually implode on it self like all fiat monetary systems do.
Why because it's a debt based monetary system
just think about it - if money can only be created through debt, i.e., borrowing into existence, at interest, then the debt can never be repaid. For example, if I, the government, borrow $10 to make up the country's money supply, and I have to pay back $11, and you (the Fed) have a monopoly on creating money, then the debt can never be repaid, because the $1 for the interest on the debt has not yet been created, and can only be created through more debt.
By its very structure, this kind of money system ultimately has to result in an unpayable debt
and all the way the more money we use to pay off are debts the less are money is worth.
Establishing debt-free money, as mandated by the Constitution, is one of the prerequisites for liberty.
Learn more about fiat money and sound money. Their is A Lot of BS going around about sound money, that is why it is important to learn first.
(video)about our fiat monetary system.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891 ...
(Download) “hard money” system vs fiat.doc
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E39PWK4S - MrFunStuff, on 11/06/2008, -4/+14@flossdaily
"Because all his ideas about social issues are stolen from the Democratic party"???
"Oh yeah, Ron Paul is anti-choice. Elect him and say goodbye to Roe v. Wade."
Those two statements contradict each other.
and if Ron Paul was elected he would let the states have the freedom to chose their own laws.
Now to address this Ron Paul racist newsletter *****.
They have an article on this in cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsle ...
even they say
"None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas."
So if I write a racist news letter put your name on it and don't put who wrote it that is enough proof two label you a racist?? - silentboom, on 11/06/2008, -3/+13We don't want "no government". We want a Republic in which the Constitution is obeyed, we want money that cannot be manipulated for the gain of those in power at the expense of the people, we want huge government programs such as war and welfare to be kept to an absolute minimum, and we want our privacy respected. Is that too goddamn much to ask for?
- Deeh, on 11/06/2008, -4/+14I love it when Ron Paul talks about the constitution!
- nightaudit, on 11/06/2008, -2/+11Paul/Schiff 2012!
- inactive, on 11/06/2008, -2/+11If people truly wanted change they would have voted for Paul
- PeppermintPig, on 11/06/2008, -3/+12Good question, lolupissed... as for dealing with the debt, the USD isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but if you get rid of the FED, you will effectively destroy their ability to create credit and print money out of thin air/with no reason behind it. You'd also get them to stop manipulating interest rates which contributed to the housing bubble hiccup.
You will still have a debt to deal with, but at least then you'll be on more sound footing. There's no justification for central control of the economy in order to 'regulate' a business cycle. They are the cause of the cycle.
To best handle the debt, SPENDING must be addressed. That includes having to stop giving money to foreign nations as well as foreign military adventures.
Furthermore, competing currencies can only strengthen one another, unless there's something wrong with a specific currency... in other words, choosing alternatives will reveal the flaws in the current option mandated by government as legal tender. - peligro18, on 11/06/2008, -7/+15americans are stupid
- Daamien, on 11/06/2008, -3/+11Works fine for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sxAWVa4XXg - lolupissed, on 11/06/2008, -3/+11I'm curious about Ron Paul. Does he want to abolish the Federal Reserve? How would that work? What about all the debt that we owe? I'm confused as to how he would handle that.
- silentboom, on 11/06/2008, -4/+12Well legalizing competing currencies would be a first step. The Fed would be forced to compete with non inflated currencies and would be limited in the printing and creation of money through low interest rates. Dr. Paul has introduced a bill that would legalize them but it didn't gain traction. If other currencies popped up, the Fed could be made irrelevant. We would have to break their hold on the fractional banking structure also. The debt that we owe is going to have to be paid no matter what. Right now they will print money to do it, devaluing our income and raising prices.
- jobobshishkabob, on 11/06/2008, -5/+13Ron Paul's tax ideas don't favor the wealthy.
- Pureeviljester, on 11/06/2008, -1/+9your stupid.
gas taxes and some state/local taxes(emissions and safety inspections) take care of the roads.
not likely it would go up. - inactive, on 11/06/2008, -3/+11Agreed.
- v0ider, on 11/06/2008, -2/+9Obama is an idiot. He isn't going to withdraw troops and if he does, he'll just move them to another country. He's for the same pre-emptive war and intervention policies that McCain was for. We just went in and we can just as easily come home.
- Daamien, on 11/06/2008, -3/+10No government is very different from limited government. We support a Federal Government that has checks and balances and exercises its power within the confines of the Constitution's Articles and Amendments. For example, the 9th and 10th Amendments guarantee that just because a right or power is not mentioned in the Constitution does not mean that it can be denied, rather those rights and powers are vested in the States and the People... not the Federal Government.
The Federal Government should exist to satisfy its mandate in the Constitution only; namely to protect rights, provide for diplomatic foreign relations, facilitate fair trade, and defend sovereignty. We would willingly trade many of the same extended powers the Federal Government currently inappropriately exercises for equal powers vested in the States due to the decentralizing and empowering effect it would have for constituencies. Therefore, we are by no means anarchists.
On the flip side of your argument, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and either amend the Constitution to legally carry out your nanny state or move to another country that lawfully supports your views? - inactive, on 11/06/2008, -3/+10To refute your previous claims:
-There is currently a backdoor draft for both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
-The Iraq War is not yet over, and could very well increase in size, length, and casualties.
-The Karzai gov't in Afghanistan is on a dangerous precipice, and could collapse in the near future.
-We already HAVE experienced record prices as far as oil goes.
-Despite Ron Paul's beliefs in evolution, his political philosophy is so air-tight, that his personal beliefs either way could not influence his strict adherence to the Constitution.
I find it disappointing but not surprising that you would emphasize these slanderous points about Ron Paul, and ignore the fact that he has been the only Republican candidate who was consistently right when he sounded the alarms about our vulnerable economy over the last two years.
There are plenty of legitimate policy and character reasons to support Mr. Paul. They outweigh any reason to oppose him. - avengingturnip, on 11/07/2008, -1/+8Neocons are socialists, Trotskyites specifically. Where do you think the idea of a global democratic revolution came from? That is pure socialism. The Wall Street bailout was socialism at its Keynesian finest.
- DannyTMurphy, on 11/06/2008, -2/+9For someone with such a problem with Paul, you sure did Digg his story as your profile shows.
- BowieX, on 11/07/2008, -2/+8He doesn't NOT believe in evolution, he simple believes that God may very well have "designed" the evolutionary process.
As an agnostic highly scientifically minded individual, even *I* can see how that is a legitimate hypothesis, not that it affects the way he governs in any way. - BowieX, on 11/07/2008, -2/+8Did Ron Paul say that all of these predictions would come true by Nov 7, 2008?
- goes211, on 11/07/2008, -2/+8@flossdaily
So in your world the country was "founded on the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery of blacks, and keeping women and homosexuals as second class citizens".
I hope you don't consider yourself a constitutional scholar. - Acrinimiril, on 11/06/2008, -2/+8Me too.
- rugrat54, on 11/06/2008, -1/+7@flossdaily:
1)Are you serious? The gold standard is NOT one of the causes of the great depression.
It was the bankruptcy of the "United States" Corporation located in the District of Columbia because they spent too much; and to pay their debts the FIRST time and so the Elites in Europe would give them more money they had to give them all of "U.S. Citizen's" gold, but NOT state Citizens, state Nationals, nor American Nationals, and the Elites created a private federal reserve corporation to finance and control the corporation they had just bought.
The federal reserve is basically a group that takes care of the bankruptcy of the "United States" Corporation and the U.S. Citizens involved in the bankruptcy. It is a private corporation on FOREIGN land.
2) That's crap. Are you the type of person that believes the U.S. is the only one who is responsible enough to have nuclear weapons; that we are better than everyone else?
The U.S. has killed millions of people and ruined economies and countries, poisoned their lands, are drug lords, are the ENEMIES of the Republic and the original jurisdiction Constitution for the states united of America, have actually declared WAR on the citizens of the several states.
You have fallen into the propaganda the United States has conducted on us for decades now.
The U.S. is nothing special my friend. It is a bully in the playground.
- inactive, on 11/06/2008, -1/+7No.
- v0ider, on 11/06/2008, -4/+10The Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression and you need to stop acting like America is all powerful. Our economy is on the verge of collapsing like it should. The Federal Reserve is responsible for our fiat currency and rampant inflation.
Having military presence in Saudi Arabia was one of the causes of 9/11. Take a look at the 9/11 commission report. We're less safe with military around the world. - migshark, on 11/07/2008, -0/+6"When they're in charge they do a lousy job".
He REALLY doesn't like his party. I'm not entirely sure that title will remain for long. - inactive, on 11/06/2008, -1/+7Gravity is still a theory... Just sayin' - I'm skeptical.
- vincebodie, on 11/07/2008, -0/+6All of the financial problems that relate to government corruption exist because some corrupted bureaucrats invest OUR tax money in private enterprise, and then they hide the profits from the public. This money should be an investment in our infrastructure, and instead it's making a bunch of crooked politicians rich. It's the single biggest travesty of our times. Check out http://www.taxretirement.com/ for more info. This is a subject that everyone across the political map needs to get behind, like YESTERDAY.
- Thinbev, on 11/06/2008, -1/+7Read about Andrew Jackson's presidential campaign. He got elected on the platform of abolishing America's central bank. After a couple unsuccessful assassination attempts on Jackson, he successfully abolished the Central Bank. (I'm sure you can find all the info online.)
Don't forget that America has had three central banks. The first two failed and now we're witnessing the beginning of the end for the Federal Reserve. Centralized control of a country's money supply always fails and our Founding Fathers knew this. Throughout history, people always desired to control a country's money supply. There is no greater power than that.
Since 1971 our dollar was decoupled from gold and instead backed by debt. We have a debt-based monetary system without any limitations on its creation. A gold standard places restrictions on the creation of the money supply. Those limits are crucial to prevent high inflation and government spending. If we had sound money we wouldn't have all these expensive wars overseas and we'd have a much more sensible government.
What really concerns me is that the Federal Reserve wasn't ever audited. We don't know what they're doing. That's very immoral and dangerous.
There's no such thing as a perfect monetary system, but I'd rather have a gold-backed monetary system that has restrictions on its creation than a debt-backed monetary system without any restrictions. Eventually, the Fed will increase our money supply so much that our dollar won't be worth anything. It's only a matter of time. -
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