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- ironhide, on 01/12/2009, -43/+234Of course they will get a pass. Hell, they probably bought that crap with the money we gave them.
- inactive, on 01/12/2009, -18/+169The white phosphorous bombs being showered on Gaza are not only paid for tby the USA, but I believe they are manufactured by the USA. The 3000 ton shipment of ammunition arranged for delivery from the USA to Israel around the end of January probably includes more white phosporous bombs.
- shrathor, on 01/12/2009, -21/+145White phosphorus is some serious *****. Sucks that with Gaza it is so densely packed that it ends up overflowing on innocents.
- inactive, on 01/12/2009, -32/+132They were showing victims with burns and talking about Israel's use of White Phosphorus on the news here tonight. I was pretty shocked that they were actually running with it.
About time the MSM started holding Israel accountable. - W00DR0W, on 01/12/2009, -6/+84It may very well be our bomb. We give them many of their weapons as well money.
- BenS, on 01/12/2009, -8/+83Once this gets on your skin it burns to the bone. You cant put water on it because it will intensify the chemical reaction. You have to expose it to air to make it stop burning. The Army calls it "Shake and Bake", they cover a target with the phosphorous which causes the targets to expose themselves due to the burning. The Army then sends HE rounds downrange and take the targets out.
- W00DR0W, on 01/12/2009, -23/+97I know they were never much concerned with saving face in this incursion, but now they're outright attacking the civilian population.
A bomb from a plane or guided missile is at least going to hit a target, but this device just rains down fire on the whole neighborhood from what I saw. And their official word was that the bomb was used to "conceal troop movements". I'm no weapons expert, but how exactly would a thousands blazing lights do that?
With no running water to put out flames, the entire city could have burned down. Think of how many people would have died if the houses weren't all brick and mortor. We can barely handle a stray cigarette butt here in California. - inactive, on 01/12/2009, -8/+79White phosphorous was used in 1982 in Lebanon and again in 2006.
- Herostratus, on 01/12/2009, -22/+63Funny, cause I was under the impression that White Phosphorous was a weapon that has been banned by international treaties.
- inactive, on 01/12/2009, -15/+56No, they were always like this. Their enemy is getting more ruthless, the Israelis always were. Their propaganda used to be more effective is all.
- nmezib, on 01/12/2009, -21/+62isn't white phosphorus like, looked down upon HEAVILY by the international community? I remember when evidence came out that the US was using white phosphorus in the middle east and we would never hear the end of it.
I bet, when confronted, the IDF would guilt trip everyone like, "Okay, we used white phosphorus, but... Holocaust. Nazis. Auschwitz. Gas Chambers. ***** off." - Waiting2awake, on 01/12/2009, -10/+48I hope you feel the same when the inevitable blow back comes...
Say, did 911 sound right to you? - sheeplescareme, on 01/12/2009, -6/+42stop spamming threads with the rick roll'd link, loser.
- ausoff2, on 01/12/2009, -12/+47Hey israel, Stop it.
Hey palestine, stop it. - eadnams, on 01/12/2009, -9/+42Funny how a group becomes what they hate, and doesn't seem to notice.
- ictoan, on 01/12/2009, -24/+57This is so sad. People in Gaza are pretty much waiting for their deaths. They have no where to go and no food or water. All because of what? Because the Israel is ***** self righteous ***** that will do anything to exterminate Palestinians so they can have all the fertile land.
Don't give me ***** that Hamas this and that. Hamas are like what? They're a punny terrorist group compared to Israeli army. How much damnage has Hamas done in Israel? If Israel wanted to get rid of Hamas, then they should've shown support for PLO who wanted to peacefully resolve the conflicts. Instead Israel refused to compromise with anything layout by UN or PLO. They refuse the notion of State of Palestinian and enforced blockade on Gaza for 18th months. Silently killing thounsands.
It isn't justified at all! - Waiting2awake, on 01/12/2009, -9/+42Hey on the talk radio here in Toronto are referring to it as "Israeli tanks pounding Hamas houses"... completely ignoring the civilians that are being hurt and killed. They are framing the story as if it is between two nation states, instead of a first world nation beating down a second or third world one.
disgusting, but I am sure they will get theirs in time. - AndrewMoyer, on 01/12/2009, -10/+38Then what separates "us" (a.k.a. the supposed "good guys") from the terrorists?
- W00DR0W, on 01/12/2009, -1/+27I seems to be different than a bomb. They showed it on the news and it looks like it showers the burning substance down on a large area.
- inactive, on 01/12/2009, -11/+37Pathetic excuses. If some idiot fires a rocket from New York then it's ok to nuke New York? Stop making excuses for mass murder.
- inactive, on 01/12/2009, -17/+42lol. They started and asked for illegal occupation, loss of their own natural resources, and daily encroachment on thier lands..
The Israeli IDF would have your beleive they are just saints in this whole fiasco. They didn't do anything wrong!?! Why how could you ever say that? That is Anti-Semitic! /s
Dance, little Zionist puppet, Dance! - thaprinze, on 01/12/2009, -18/+43The US & Israel have taken away ALL credibility and power away from the UN. To be honest, I'm not even all that sure why it's around anymore. They should just change the organization to focus only on Africa, where they still do a lot of good.
- anonymiau, on 01/12/2009, -10/+35Reading your comment is like listening to a violent wife beater sitting beside his mangled wife in a hospital bed claiming she brought it upon herself by slapping him on the cheek.
- DrDragun, on 01/12/2009, -11/+35Any conventional weapon is serious *****. We're talking about the business of killing human beings here. I don't believe the situation is "so much worse" because they are using white phosphorus. Regular bombs and bullets cause horrifying loss of life as it is.
Anytime a first-world nation engages its military force in hostilites you are going to witness a terrible human cost. Significant numbers of nameless civilians die buried under rubble from regular old bombings, gradually perishing from dehydration or whatever with several days to contemplate their deaths. Yes a burning death from white phosphorous is awful but it's really a small thing compared to the fact that they are fully using the military to begin with. Of course their enemy is not leaving them much choice. - Tuto, on 01/12/2009, -30/+54I am not really an expert in this but i think that at some point Israel was the righteous party in this conflict. These days it seems that Israel has become a piece of *****, the same kind they are fighting against.
- Khast, on 01/12/2009, -24/+47Bah, Israel can't do anything wrong. They are innocent of anything, everybody is out to get them, remember. Turn your head, nothing to look at here. /s
- MalarkeyPN, on 01/12/2009, -3/+26Well, we give them the money and then they use it to buy our weapons (at a steep discount).
- geoken, on 01/12/2009, -8/+30What better way to support your claim of 'targeted surgical strikes' than by using weapons with high levels of collateral damage.
- ChicoLeon, on 01/12/2009, -14/+36Gaza is so densely packed because it keeps shrinking.
- 23cranberries, on 01/12/2009, -8/+30The Hague called. . . .
- writie, on 01/12/2009, -5/+26Except that this is being used in towns in which the civilians are trapped.
- MalarkeyPN, on 01/12/2009, -10/+31Why is it more moral for Israel to aim for Hamas and kill hundreds of civilians accidentally than it is for Hamas to aim for Israel and kill a handful of civilians?
How much does that word "accidentally" really exculpate Israel from being responsible for the damage they cause? - BuzzFriendly, on 01/12/2009, -0/+19To be fair the US isn't the only country that provides support to Israel in fact some of the weapons they use are purchased from the Saudi's of all people. The Israelis will buy weapons from anyone selling them just like most other countries.
- elTito, on 01/12/2009, -17/+37The Israelis are using M825A1 155mm artillery smoke shells, which, while they contain white phosphorus, are NOT the same thing as white phosphorus incendiary munitions.
It's not pure phosphorus you seen burning, it's phosphorus-impregnated felt. It is meant to create a smoke screen for ground personnel, not to do damage.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/mun ... - MalarkeyPN, on 01/12/2009, -3/+23Yes, what with the Internet these days, and the free flowing information, it's very hard to keep a deceptive and effective propaganda campaign in place.
- MonkeyOverlord, on 01/12/2009, -47/+66And in other news, few media outlets seem to care that Hamas brought all of this down on the Palestinians. You don't have to be a supporter of Israel to realize that Hamas is the rancid turd in the punch bowl here. If Hamas hadn't broken the ceasefire by launching the equivalent of several thousand cannonballs on Israeli civilians, none of these Palestinian civilians would be dead.
Seriously, Egypt is not an ally of Israel and their official position can be summarized as "you ***** brought this on yourselves after we told you to just live and let live for a change."
The fact is, if the Palestinians wiped out Hamas in an organic uprising, culled most of Fatah and brought a sensible plan to Israel, Israel would be falling all over itself to sign a permanent peace. If Fatah were smart it would break the West Bank off right now, and tell the Israelis it has a few modest demands, and it would get all of them if it seriously settled down and lived by them:
1) You can keep Jerusalem.
2) Pull your troops out of the West Bank.
3) Recognize the West Bank as the state of Palestine and sponsor our admission into the United Nations.
4) Spend most of your American military aid on rebuilding our infrastructure.
If Fatah did that, the Palestinians would have an iron clad peace treaty with Israel for the West Bank, signed and ready to go by Friday. Most Israelis are absolutely sick of this fighting, and if the Palestinians really wanted peace, they could have an honorable peace within hours of moderate negotiations. - archiesteel, on 01/12/2009, -11/+30Even if they are, it's Israel's responsibility to limit loss of life. Doesn't look like they're doing much of that.
Look at it this way: a bunch of criminals have taken civilian hostages in a bank. As leader of the SWAT team, do you consider throwing high explosive grenades inside to wipe out the bad guys? - 7Wiseguy, on 01/12/2009, -19/+37US made incendiary bombs purchased with American taxpayers money.
- archiesteel, on 01/12/2009, -4/+21You mean, there are *no more* settlements in Gaza...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/ ... - mannymix03, on 01/12/2009, -12/+28It produces thick white smoke to cover troop movement, the USA uses it heavily in Afghanistan.
I think we need to focus on getting these banned outright for warfare, while it might not be great Israel is technically right that they are legal and break no international laws of war. - beasty_dave_Mk2, on 01/12/2009, -0/+16water on WP is a HUGE no-no...It's fuel to the fire, infact water can cause flare ups after the munitions have been expended if it's doused on any remnants which fail to ignite on initial deployment.
There's not many charities I give money to, but the burn unit is one I always find a couple dollars to kick. Severe burns are painfull beyond comprehension, drugs rarely even help the pain.
- catalystmotive, on 01/12/2009, -18/+33damn those Palestinians and Israelis. they need to listen to some bob marley and get along
- ZenMojo, on 01/12/2009, -8/+23White phosphorus. There's a reason the US kept denying its use, and it's not to keep a tactical advantage over the enemy.
- kingmanic, on 01/12/2009, -4/+19They should be loaded with rose petals and candy. /s
On a less sarcastic note, the white phosphorous isn't conventional payload. It's meant to burn down houses. It betrays a desire by Israel to do a lot of collateral damage. - inactive, on 01/12/2009, -1/+16It was used by Israel in Lebanon...
- andyb747, on 01/12/2009, -18/+33Disproportionate use of force
while you're at why not use some Zyklon-B too. - trogdor1289, on 01/12/2009, -10/+25They are not incendiary devices they are smoke shells M825 WP shells to be exact.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/mun ... - sheeplescareme, on 01/12/2009, -4/+18why is the choice bombs or white phosphorous? what's wrong with neither?
- pathouston22, on 01/12/2009, -9/+23Haha. Funny you are. The UN has never had credibility. Except they are very good at writing strongly worded letters. That is the limit to their credibility.
- Jimbob200, on 01/12/2009, -1/+14Not to mention used by Americans.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4440664.stm
America and Israel are not signatories to the convention banning the use of white phosphorus, so it is NOT a violation on their part. Just the facts. -
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