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Released Guantanamo detainee behind suicide truck bombing
longwarjournal.org — Al Qaeda in Iraq, through its puppet organization the Islamic State of Iraq, released its latest propaganda video on June 23. The video contains a montage of attacks throughout Iraq, and features two Kuwaiti al Qaeda operatives who conducted strikes in Mosul. One of the operatives was released from the US military prison in Guantanamo Bay...
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- Surferess, on 06/26/2008, -13/+6This does not help the guys at Gitmo one bit. It is like a death sentence for them all.
- novaculus, on 06/26/2008, -5/+7No, not death sentences, more's the pity.
- CryRightardCry, on 06/27/2008, -4/+2Well, that's what the right wing asshats would like you to believe.
In fact the actions of one person do not affect those of another. One man committing a crime does not mean all men will.
Just as when a release prisoner commits another crime that is not used to stop all the other prisoner from being release when their time is up.
This guy was most likely abused in Gitmo. Why wouldn't he hold a grudge?
Torture me I'll blow you up too. - Commodore84, on 06/27/2008, -1/+3Yup, this guy was clearly an innocent who was merely caught up the US' dragnet to capture purported terrorists from the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq. He was just miffed that we dripped some water down his nose, that's all. Right...
- ssn697, on 06/26/2008, -5/+32The following primary factors favor continued detention:
A. Al Ajmi is a Taliban fighter:
1. Al Ajmi went AWOL from the Kuwaiti military in order to travel to Afghanistan participate in the Jihad.
2. Al Ajmi was issued an AK-47, ammunition and hand grenades by the Taliban.
B. Al Ajmi participated in military operations against the coalition.
1. Al Ajmi admitted he was in Afghanistan fighting with the Taliban in the Bagram area.
2. Al Ajmi was placed in a defensive position by the Taliban in order to block the Northern Alliance.
3. Al Ajmi admitted spending eight months on the front line at the Aiubi Center, Afghanistan.
4. Al Ajmi admitted engaging in two or three fire fights with the Northern Alliance.
5. Al Ajmi retreated to the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan and was later captured as he attempted to escape to Pakistan.
C. Al Ajmi is committed to jihad.
1. Al Ajmi went AWOL because he wanted to participate in the jihad in Afghanistan but could not get leave from the military.
2. In Aug 2004, Al Ajmi wanted to make sure that when the case goes before the Tribunal, they know that he now is a Jihadist, an enemy combatant, and that he will kill as many Americans as he possibly can.
D. Upon arrival at GTMO, Al Ajmi has been constantly in trouble. Al Ajmi's overall behavior has been aggressive and non-compliant, and he has resided in GTMO's disciplinary blocks throughout his detention.
E. Based upon a review of recommendations from U.S. agencies and classified and unclassified documents, Al Ajmi is regarded as a continued threat to the United States and its Allies.
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Yet they released him. No explanation why. This sounds so fishy...- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 06/26/2008, -3/+13I believe they released him to Kuwaiti authorities on the assurance that they would put him on trial. Instead, they dropped the charges and sent him free.
- ssn697, on 06/26/2008, -1/+14No, they put him on trial, and acquitted him, back in 2006.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=2 ...
They acquitted all FIVE that were released, based on the claim they broke no Kuwaiti laws...- Gandalff, on 06/26/2008, -1/+5Guess the High Court is scratching their heads because of just that... the article you produced. Didn't happen in my Town, Country, City whatever therefore it did not happen and you can go.
Which Judge do you think will make the same assertions once they get infront of them, or they will simply say Time Served you can go.
Good Find on the article my friend. Keep reminding the people.
G - ssn697, on 06/26/2008, -0/+8@Gandalff
I don't get why we let them go, without making sure Kuwaiti law was going to prosecute them (wait REALLY prosecute them). Really, really troubling. - Gandalff, on 06/27/2008, -1/+5@ssn697
LMAO on the REALLY bit. Dug you up on that.
Of course Mrs. O has something else she can be Really proud about again. Letting Mr. O's brethren go....
and to the Kuwaiti law & prosecution piece, YES we did consult before handing over however, much like our Gov. can do from time to time not to mention the court systems, they let us down.
- Gandalff, on 06/26/2008, -1/+5Guess the High Court is scratching their heads because of just that... the article you produced. Didn't happen in my Town, Country, City whatever therefore it did not happen and you can go.
- ssn697, on 06/26/2008, -1/+14No, they put him on trial, and acquitted him, back in 2006.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 06/26/2008, -3/+13I believe they released him to Kuwaiti authorities on the assurance that they would put him on trial. Instead, they dropped the charges and sent him free.
- pryoee4, on 06/26/2008, -5/+1But seriously, have they caught Mustaf Herod Apyur Poupr yet?
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdonCgjgOdg) - aki009, on 06/26/2008, -2/+18What a surprise. NOT.
- Gandalff, on 06/26/2008, -10/+9Can you say way to go Almighty High Court with your recent Ruling. Can't wait until the rest of them get loose and let out a little pent up agression.
Nice Very Nice..... Habeas Corpus people sit down and shut up unless you have read all the fine details then read the High Court Ruling during the WW II. It is time to tell the 10% to STFU and Sit Down and you listen for a change.
G- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -0/+1Sit down and STFU. You're in the 10% minority on this issue. The article doesn't even say when the guy was released. I believe it was long before this weeks ruling by the Supreme Court, and had zero to do with Habeas Corpus as he was not afforded those rights. This fighter was released by the Tribunal system as is another example of how messed up the current situation is.
This man should not have been released from prison and would not have been if he'd been properly tried for his past crimes.
- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -0/+1Sit down and STFU. You're in the 10% minority on this issue. The article doesn't even say when the guy was released. I believe it was long before this weeks ruling by the Supreme Court, and had zero to do with Habeas Corpus as he was not afforded those rights. This fighter was released by the Tribunal system as is another example of how messed up the current situation is.
- TRMarchesano, on 06/26/2008, -10/+5I wonder if we can (yes we can) plant in the mind of the Gitmo animals, after they are released with their huge $ settlements thanks to the ACLU, National Lawyers Guild and SCOTUS, the exact street addresses of Pelosi, Reid, etc and allude that they are the ones who didn't want them released? I wonder what would happen??? hmmmmm PSYOPS anyone? :)
- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2You people make me ***** sick. This individual was a known terrorist. There were facts to back this up. Had he been tried in the US court system instead of the Kuwaiti court system. He'd be in jail serving a life sentence by now.
- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -1/+1You people make me ***** sick. This individual was a known terrorist. There were facts to back this up. Had he been tried in the US court system instead of the Kuwaiti court system. He'd be in jail serving a life sentence by now.
- pintomp3, on 06/27/2008, -11/+7torturing people tends to piss them off.
- bernandoo, on 06/27/2008, -3/+6Being an Islamic extremist tends to make you pissed off.
- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -1/+2Your putting the cart before the horse.
- ssn697, on 06/27/2008, -1/+11. Al Ajmi went AWOL from the Kuwaiti military in order to travel to Afghanistan participate in the Jihad.
2. Al Ajmi was issued an AK-47, ammunition and hand grenades by the Taliban.
B. Al Ajmi participated in military operations against the coalition.
1. Al Ajmi admitted he was in Afghanistan fighting with the Taliban in the Bagram area.
2. Al Ajmi was placed in a defensive position by the Taliban in order to block the Northern Alliance.
3. Al Ajmi admitted spending eight months on the front line at the Aiubi Center, Afghanistan.
4. Al Ajmi admitted engaging in two or three fire fights with the Northern Alliance.
5. Al Ajmi retreated to the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan and was later captured as he attempted to escape to Pakistan.
C. Al Ajmi is committed to jihad.
What part of that has anything to do with torture?
- bernandoo, on 06/27/2008, -3/+6Being an Islamic extremist tends to make you pissed off.
- Kizilbash, on 06/27/2008, -8/+4Keeping people locked up for years without charge and then torturing them does not make them your friends, who'da thunk it!
- KJeffV, on 06/27/2008, -2/+6Oh, noes! al Qaeda operatives are not interested in becoming our friends?
- Waiting2awake, on 06/27/2008, -3/+2Why wouldn't they? They are being created by the US' actions...
Fanatical Islam hasn't met a recruiting tool like the US ever.- JAVandiver, on 06/27/2008, -2/+2And the apologist speaks again... I say exterminate the vermin.
- Waiting2awake, on 06/27/2008, -1/+1Not an apologist just pointing out the obvious to all those that have two brain cells to rub together.
- Waiting2awake, on 06/27/2008, -3/+2Why wouldn't they? They are being created by the US' actions...
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 06/27/2008, -4/+3Kizilbash ♥ terrorist dogs
- KJeffV, on 06/27/2008, -2/+6Oh, noes! al Qaeda operatives are not interested in becoming our friends?
- Crackerpat, on 06/27/2008, -3/+1I'm Sorry, but at what point did you not see this happening?
- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -1/+7This is a prime example of the glaring inadequacies of the military tribunal system that we are currently using to try people in GITMO.
For those of you trying to use this as example of what's wrong with the Supreme Court's protection of Habeas Corpus, you need to sit back and realize that this man was released by the Army's Military Tribunal. Think before you speak.- obliviousfool, on 06/27/2008, -0/+3Hey! Don't let facts enter into this discussion.
Not to mention, he was released to Kuwaiti officials, who then released the guy because the things he was accused of by the Americans were not violations of Kuwaiti law (among other reasons.)- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -1/+2Yeah, the Republicronny trolls on digg kill me. Logic, what logic. It's all about how I feel.
- obliviousfool, on 06/27/2008, -0/+3Hey! Don't let facts enter into this discussion.
- bernandoo, on 06/27/2008, -2/+7This guys allegiance to jihad made him do this.. not his stay at guantanamo.
- Waiting2awake, on 06/27/2008, -4/+2What came first? The US losing its mind and invading without cause? Or those fighting the US invasions?
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 06/27/2008, -1/+1But I thought Afghanistan was the "good" invasion. At least that's what Obama (Peace Be Upon Obama) says.
- Waiting2awake, on 06/27/2008, -0/+1BTT - There again you go.... What makes you think I would support Obama? I can point to a few posts where I said he was merely another bought head. But hey - don't let me stop you from making an ass out of yourself.
IMO Afghanistan was the first mistake. That mission was decided upon pretty much because of the good will the US generally had. The Taliban did offer up OBL if the US would show some evidence, but that wasn't going to be an option, besides who are you going to believe the Taliban, fanatical Muslim cave dwellers - or the U.S of A!
Rightly so at that time the world went with the US because while everyone who has paid attention knows there are some serious skeletons in the US's closet, they have been on the whole a force for good. Which is what has bought them the credibility, so NATO went off into war against an entire region of people.
Now we find out how it all is seemingly to have went down. The average American that is going to have to foot the pain and suffering that this Admin has caused may get even more irate when they find out that there is no way of getting these bastards - and when they do, they'll come looking for those that enabled it all to happen; the cheerleaders..
I hope for your sake when that day comes God has more mercy on your soul(assuming you're into that whole brevity thing) than your fellow American are going to have on you.
- wynja, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2I'm sure his stay at GITMO did nothing but bolster his resolve in the cause.
- ssn697, on 06/27/2008, -2/+3Like McCain time as a POW bolstered his love of America. Your point?
Being held prisoner isn't something you are supposed to LIKE. He was a fighter, committed to killing Americans, long before GITMO. It's a war. So, we should just send him on his way, because we might make him MORE angry? - wynja, on 06/27/2008, -1/+1@ssn697 You missed my point entirely. bern is saying it wasn't his stay in GITMO that made him do it, and I pointed out that his stay at GITMO only made his resolve to kill Americans that much stronger.
Where in this statement do I say that a terrorist should be let free or that he was supposed to like it??? Oh, and this has nothing to do with your butt buddy Fearless McCain.
- ssn697, on 06/27/2008, -2/+3Like McCain time as a POW bolstered his love of America. Your point?
- Waiting2awake, on 06/27/2008, -4/+2What came first? The US losing its mind and invading without cause? Or those fighting the US invasions?
- franklymister, on 06/27/2008, -1/+1So which argument is going to win out - that this is "proof" that all the Gitmo detainees are terrorists, or that this is "proof" that Gitmo turns all its detainees into terrorists?
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