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- whoreable, on 05/10/2008, -17/+569He says "Am I being detained?" so many times that she eventually screws up and asks him if he is being detained. ROFL
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -94/+554Excellent activism!
- timfrietas, on 05/10/2008, -32/+424Am I being detained?
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -20/+368He was later detained and held as an enemy combatant.
- KCLorelei39, on 05/10/2008, -29/+372It was like watching an Abbot and Costello - "Who's on First?" routine, lol
They can't/won't do much to keep them from crossing the border, yet hassling people at checkpoints 50 miles from the border is going to accomplish exactly what again??
I for one appreciated the cage rattling he gave the agent. - hikaruzero, on 05/10/2008, -22/+332Yeah he was totally being a dick. Unfortunately, I have to think that his inherent peckerheadedness is entirely justified. The police and police-like agencies (such as the department of homeland security) have become so arrogant and powerful that non-violent non-compliance is almost a natural response to contact with agents.
It's nice that police want to help, it's nice that they solve murders and track down stolen vehicles and property, and put major violators in jail. But the job of the police has become so distorted, that they make most of their money picking on moving traffic violators, and bullying people who are innocent according to law into pleading guilty.
I was arrested by police once, for being in an abandoned communal house, shooting a homebrew movie with my friends. They charged me with "criminal trespass." According to my state law (Pennsylvania), being on private property is entirely legal unless you are interfering with a business, or unless you are asked to leave by a person of authority (such as the owner, a manager, a resident, or a police officer). In addition, abandoned structures that are not used as a business, residence, or storage facility, and have no person of authority present, cannot be trespassed upon. Not only was I not guilty of criminal trespass, I was not guilty of even simple trespass. I pleaded innocent and paid a $50 collateral, and before the trial, I was pulled aside to the officer, who handed me a copy of the law regarding trespassing.
I had looked up the trespassing law previously, and found the section saying that abandoned buildings which are not used as a residence, storage area, or business, are essentially exempt from trespass laws. The copy of the law the cop gave me had this section *curiously absent*, and there was even a gap in the section numbers showing that the relevant section was removed.
The cop told me he had misfiled the charges as a misdemeanor, and that criminal trespass was actually a felony, punishable by no less than 30 days in jail. He said if I pleaded guilty, he would leave the charges filed as a misdemeanor and I would only have to pay the fine. I looked the ***** straight in the eye and told him that he was trying to bully me into pleading guilty, that the section on abandoned structures was missing, and that I was guilty of no violation. We went into the courthouse, the judge asked him for his opening statement, and he *DROPPED THE CHARGES* in that opening statement. I shook hands with the owner of the building, who told me if we wanted to continue making the movie, we should call and ask and he'd let us.
Out of the $50 collateral I posted, I recieved only about $11 and some change. The rest was taken out of court fees. At the time, I was a kid, so I didn't realize it was illegal for them to assess court fees, and that I could have sued the state for false arrest and entrapment (intimidation into pleading guilty with threat of worse penalties).
I'm still livid over the entire situation. I commend this fellow for entirely refusing to comply with the will of the state. They can go ***** themselves. - orangekid13, on 05/10/2008, -27/+319YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY!
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -27/+302Nicely done. You can submit or you can defend your freedom. But you can't do both.
- oxygen728, on 05/10/2008, -30/+272"He's not confrontational, but doesn't relent to giving them information that they don't have reason to require him to submit."
That's complete crap. She said he's free to go and he goes on to ask her for her badge number. That is very confrontational and he was clearly getting off on it.
And as a disclaimer, I completely agree with his actions. - carpespasm, on 05/10/2008, -20/+239This was a very well done stop by this gentleman. He didn't do anything wrong and the stop wasn't for any means which a driver is required to submit to a stop for (DUI checkpoint, traffic violation), so he simply asks if they're detaining him and if he's free to go. As the miranda rights say, "Anything you say can and will be used against you", so he only says the things that in no legal way can be used against him. He's not confrontational, but doesn't relent to giving them information that they don't have reason to require him to submit.
- skateboard1, on 05/10/2008, -37/+238this guy did everything right. he never refused to comply just wanted an answer . that takes discipline
- jaymzdean, on 05/10/2008, -12/+198U.S. border patrol, for the most part, are just following orders from higher ups, but because they are in the business of "are you a citizen?", they are consciously cognizant of your rights. The police, however, are being indoctrinated to believe that any contact with you is a potential life-threatening brush with a terrorist and don't think twice that they might be abusing your rights while they give you 30 seconds extra on the taser just to show you who's boss.
- dogster, on 05/10/2008, -17/+168I am surprised that the driver wasn't tased by the agent's helpers. It is encouraging that some police still have respect (fear) of the fourth amendment.
- Ne007, on 05/10/2008, -17/+153You are a complete tool for missing the point. These people have no authority to set up these checkpoints in the United States of America.
In the U.S. there has to be a reason to be detained, stopped or questioned.
Checkpoints are illegal, but continue because the people "in charge" of justice are impeading justice. - patrflav, on 05/10/2008, -17/+137AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED
- ultimathule, on 05/10/2008, -18/+140You are not being detained for the love of God.
- Celeron, on 05/10/2008, -20/+142She's hot.
- WasabiBomb, on 05/10/2008, -3/+113The thing is, she's completely required to provide that information when asked. It's one of the things that keeps law enforcement in line.
- BJNK, on 05/10/2008, -18/+126Ya, he was within his rights, but he was clearly being a douchebag. He could have laid it out. " Officer, I know my rights, unless I am being detained I would like to be on my way. Thank you." Instead hes an ass getting off on it.
- Goodanswer, on 05/10/2008, -16/+129Its called the Bill of rights and most of you (not this guy) have forgotten what your rights actually are.
Now this guy will show you what your rights are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItL-DfdKGY&feature ... - mediaphile, on 05/10/2008, -3/+105That was the best part. "I'm asking you, are you being..." Whoops.
- casidnet, on 05/10/2008, -21/+123It's the slippery slope argument. You let them do it there then in a few years you let them do it on the outskirts of every city then on every corner.
Btw, Myanmar isn't in China. - diizy, on 05/10/2008, -38/+138Am I being detained? Am I being detained? Am I being detained?
Am I free to go? Am I free to go? Am I free to go? Am I free to go? - rootfiend, on 05/10/2008, -22/+112What's that clicking like every other second? Annoying as hell.
- Protonz, on 05/10/2008, -12/+105"'She' could have just answered the question instead of being a complete tool."
There, I fixed it for you. - alilhappything, on 05/10/2008, -8/+91Sir, you need to answer my question.
- lotsa1s, on 05/10/2008, -2/+83Was anyone else reminded of that one skit from Bugs Bunny where Bugs and Daffy are fighting over whether its duck or rabbit season and Bugs trips him up?
Bugs: "Duck season!"
Daffy: "Rabbit season!"
Bugs: "Duck season!"
Daffy: "Rabbit season!"
Bugs: "Duck season!!"
Daffy: "Rabbit season!!"
Bugs: "Rabbit season!"
Daffy: "Duck season!!!"
Bugs: "Rabbit season!!!"
Daffy: "I say it's duck season, and I say, FIRE!" - RSS14, on 05/10/2008, -2/+88Can someone explain to me what just happened? Was the border patrol person doing something illegal? I am Canadian, I find my lack of intelligence to American law disturbing . . .
- 47f0, on 05/10/2008, -14/+89Yep, you're right. Best to surrender every last civil rights amendment to the authorities, because they're only here to help. They're only following orders. Read some history. Good people died for the freedoms you're ready to hand over so easily and cheaply.
- imnojezus, on 05/10/2008, -11/+87So, all you want in exchange for your rights is a pretty face and a pair of *****. Brilliant.
- spyd3rweb, on 05/10/2008, -26/+104Now if we could just get everyone to do this all the time.
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -6/+75Strange that it can be considered activism if doing this is within his rights...
- Look4Truth, on 05/10/2008, -46/+115"Get out yer tasers boyz, we git ourselves a hero here."
"Hey look Bob, der goez a copy of da Constitutun!"
"Git out o da car bub, yer comin' wit us!"
*ZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPP!!!* - zephc, on 05/10/2008, -7/+72Papers, please.
- LloydBentsen, on 05/10/2008, -8/+69I found her near deer-in-headlights look a bit troublesome. It was as if this was the first person she had ever stopped who knew their rights in the situation. However, I don't know if I would have the will that this person did in asserting his rights-- honestly, I'd probably just comply like a coward.
- carpespasm, on 05/10/2008, -15/+77He wasn't being a dick at all. He didn't get cocky, he didn't try to show her how she didn't have jurisdiction over him unless she arrested him or shoot his mouth off. He just stuck to the few statements you can say to any police officer that don't give them further reason to detain you while not giving in to any request that wasn't a specific order.
- Dested, on 05/10/2008, -18/+81Im not sure if you are a troll or just 12.
- darkened, on 05/10/2008, -16/+74This was beautiful I'm glad to see this turned out with him not being harassed or arrested or tasered or any other atrocity that has been done to our rights as American Citizens as of lately.
- inactive, on 05/10/2008, -9/+63Am I being detained?
- macwac, on 05/10/2008, -16/+70No guts no glory. Many thanks for sticking up for yourself!
- rficwizard, on 05/10/2008, -8/+60Funny, but until until you actually think about it. Then it is scary.
- flameboy, on 05/10/2008, -7/+57Wrong.
You have the freedom of free unrestricted interstate travel. You have the right to move around within your country without being detained for unknown reasons. The people who set up this check point are *****, not the guy standing up for his rights.
At a time like this we NEED people who might seem a little like "*****" to these government agencies who are slowly encroaching our rights. - blackrage, on 05/10/2008, -6/+71Sir, you need to answer my question.
- jozb, on 05/10/2008, -3/+50This is what happened to a Senator from Vermont.
"It’s interesting - I went through one of those symbolic checkpoints in the state of New York driving back here. It was about 125 miles from the border. In a car with license plate one on it from Vermont. With little letters underneath it that said US Senate. We were stopped and ordered to get out of the car and prove my citizenship. And I said “what authority are you acting under?” and one of your agents pointed to his gun and said “that’s all the authority I need.”
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200803/030408b.html
also it looks like 100 miles from the border the can still legally question you.
"...I had already been legally admitted to the U.S. so I checked with a lawyer in Texas. He explained to me that everyone is legally obligated to answer any legitimate question the border patrol asks about citizenship within 100 miles of the border and you can be arrested if you refuse."
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/22/us-border-pat ...
also don't forget the Patriot Act. - giomiguelito, on 05/10/2008, -4/+50Am I being detained?
- Jlaugh, on 05/10/2008, -8/+53As a citizen she should be concerned about illegal unconstitutional policies and so should you. Police need to learn that they are not above the law.
- zephc, on 05/10/2008, -4/+52Except he wasn't at the US border, and what they had was an intimidation checkpoint, with no actual (passport) proof of citizenship required.
- 47f0, on 05/10/2008, -6/+50Wow. Just wow. Believe it or not, children, some of us remember a time when law enforcement actually upheld their oath to the constitution. I am utterly stunned at the number of people posting who think the police have the right to do anything they want. Boot, you just saw an American citizen showing remarkable restraint in the face of an officer who refused to answer a question she is required to answer.
- Kavok, on 05/10/2008, -2/+43Why should he have to answer her questions?
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