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Random Drug Testing For Clubbers While In Line
peterboroughet.co.uk — A total of 240 revellers were tested during a police blitz of major city bars and clubs during one night (March 24) – of which 36 were found with traces of illegal substances, such as cocaine, ecstasy or amphetamines on them.
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- deepfog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Even if someone doesn't do drugs why would they submit to this, is this legal in the UK? And how does the person being tested know it's accurate? What if it's tainted in some way from the last person or rigged in some way?
- Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They can't. Any test like this can come back with fasle positives.
- MrESaulved, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder what the probable cause was to search the citizens. Did they only check those wearing 'Tigger' backpacks? Sunglasses at night? What would be the penalty for refusing to allow to be scanned? Arrest? Denial of entry?
- deepfog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe people didn't know any better, I was listening to Alex Jones and he said they tried to randomly search bags at the subway stations over there but he said no.
- Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't know anything about UK laws but, here in the US this would not be legal at all. The problem is that they may still do it and get away with it for the exact reason that deepfog states. People simply do not know their rights. In the US, the fourth and fifth amendments are in place to protect people from the police.
You have a reasonable right to privacy and against unreasonable searches and seizures in the US. While I might have a problem with what is currently considered as reasonable in the US since some one can spend $50 and steal my identity and the feds abuse their powers to secretly listen to the phone calls of hundreds of thousands of US citizens, these rights still apply to your property.
You have a right to not incriminate yourself. You don't have to answer a cop when they are asking you questions. Always be polite and respectful and produce ID but, simply say that you do not wish to answer any questions without a lawyer present or act like you would like to help but, you don't understand what the officer is implying or asking.
Even if the cops deny you these rights by searching you or your property after you state that you so not consent to any searches or making you answer questions that you do not want to answer without a lawyer, they are worth keeping and asserting because they can help you later. If you are arrested and go to trial, you can claim that the evidence against you was illegally obtained. If you retained your rights, then your chances are better that the judge will agree that the police violated your rights and the evidence will not be allowed. Without this evidence, proving a crime beyond a reasonable doubt will be very difficult.
If you want to know more, look up ACLU on google or youtube.
- di0rz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0they must be crazy to spread that kind of information.
even if ecstasy does'nt cause direct death, it's kind of dangerous for the brain. - gettothechoppa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1It's totally dangerous -- more so than most people think.
http://www.drugfreeworld.org/factsaboutdrugs/ecstasy.html- Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FYI - drugfreeworld is a front for scientology. Read more about them here: http://www.xenu.net/ They are craaaaaaaazy!
and, yes gettothechoppa, I'm going to follow you and spam this everywhere you spam your crap so you can eother stop or at least get a better anti-drug site. See you soon! :)
- Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FYI - drugfreeworld is a front for scientology. Read more about them here: http://www.xenu.net/ They are craaaaaaaazy!
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