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R U A TERRORIST? FBI Terrorist Brochure....MUST SEE & READ!
theforbiddenknowledge.com — A defender of the Constitution? or Somebody who won't identify themselves, or how about a "Lone Individual". Report them to the FBI NOW??? Very interesting FBI brochure!
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- ChayesFSS, on 08/09/2008, -0/+16YEA, I'm a defender of the, wait I mean a 'Terrorist' now give me what the ***** I want, which just happens to be FREEDOM!!!
- carter1955, on 08/09/2008, -4/+3FBI= Full ***** Inc. Don't turn me in because you will end up owing me millions as I pursue a false arrest on the treasonous government I now support with my taxes.
- MellerTime, on 08/09/2008, -1/+4Except that the treasonous government is also handling your lawsuit....
- zinc6471, on 08/09/2008, -1/+12"cult type groups"
Scientology is going down...- eclipse007, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Don't get your hopes high.
Scientology has a lot of money and a lot of contacts/members in the right places.
- eclipse007, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Don't get your hopes high.
- anarcurt, on 08/09/2008, -1/+5If knowing the law of the land and holding the po responsible for illegal types of policing makes me a terrorist then call me Osama.
- notanidiot, on 08/09/2008, -0/+15I saw this years ago on Infowars.com. Here's the rub: Alot of people who invoke the Constitution don't really know what they are talking about. Just because you mention the Constitution doesn't mean you are right about it. Just like people who take the Bible out of context, there are some who attempt to pervert the Constitution to their own selfish motives, and that I have no respect for.
On the other hand, mentioning the Constitution doesn't make you a terrorist, so this document, if real, is completely ***** up. - JekJob, on 08/09/2008, -0/+8"Left-Wing Terrorists: Political motivation usually Marxist/Leninist philosophy"
That's *****. Are they doing Communist witch hunts again?
Anyone else notice that the Right-Wingers are just "extremists" but the Left-Wingers are "terrorists"?- Ymeg, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Well, it is in a terrorist pamphlet.
Also, left wing extremist usually follow that philosophy. - oMeSSiaHo, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1If anything it is showing that left wingers are not as much of a threat. Right Wing extremists are dangerous while left wing extremists are not. They didnt need to list the right wingers as terrorists because they have already carried out terror attacks (Oklahoma City bombing, abortion clinic bombings). The right wingers are more prone to violence then the left wingers.
I guess its a matter of how you read it.
- Ymeg, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Well, it is in a terrorist pamphlet.
- DiggMasterJ, on 08/10/2008, -2/+3They didn't mention Diggers. This is probably older than the internets.
- diggenerate, on 08/10/2008, -0/+5"refusing to identify yourself" that is your right to do so.
- AeroMerde, on 08/10/2008, -3/+0Depends on the state. So, no, it is not necessarily your right.
- diggenerate, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3It doesn't matter what state you live in, it is in the Constitution. You only have to identify yourself if you are pulled over or if you entering a government facility of some kind. A police officer can't just walk up to you and demand that you identify yourself. Well they can do that, except you do not have to respond, in fact you never have to say anything to the police, no matter the situation.
- AeroMerde, on 08/10/2008, -3/+0Depends on the state. So, no, it is not necessarily your right.
- andwhammy, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2it's an old reference to timothy mcveigh who claimed he was acting to defend the constitution. that's why its filed under "right-wing"
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime//serial_killers ... - Falldog, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to post on Digg.
- wontstoptalking, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6Investigator Al Shearer
Maricopa County Attorney's Office
602-650-3131
"Uh, yeah, Osama Bin Laden is in my basement..." - wontstoptalking, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Dude, the two hammers symbol is from Pink Floyd's "The Wall". Wow.
- BoonTobias, on 08/10/2008, -0/+11"making numerous references to the US constitution"
wtf does that even mean?
yo i'm gonna get second amendment on your ass!
i'll take the fifth on that!- notanidiot, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1You can't pull me over, its against my Constitutional rights! lol
- AeroMerde, on 08/10/2008, -6/+1People who claim to be "defenders" of the Constitution against the government and/or UN are radical people and some of them are part of violent movements.
Driving isn't a right, and if you're using false plates, don't have a license, refusing to identify yourself, and referencing the Constitution for the cop's benefit, you are already breaking the law.
As for the rest of the pamphlet, there are people who are eco-terrorists (burning housing developments, spiking trees), anti-abortion terrorists, and many other radicalized people who use violence to achieve a political goal. They aren't common at all, but they are out there. It's the FBI's job to get them.
The only mistake the FBI made in writing this is that they assumed the reader had common sense and could read comprehensibly, which was too much for the article's submitter and most of the commenters above.- AchaIemoipas, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1"don't have a license"
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
"refusing to identify yourself"
You're not required to identify yourself unless you're under arrest. Otherwise anonymous complaints would be impossible.
"It's the FBI's job to get them"
Pamphlet says "Groups of individuals engaging in para-military training".
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Referencing the constitution doesn't make you a terrorist. It makes you a patriot and an educated citizen. Protecting your rights is an obligation, not a right or a priviledge.
- AchaIemoipas, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1"don't have a license"
- Tangaroa, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1The last time this flyer got floated around the Internet, I heard that it was a draft copy that had been rejected by that FBI office's superiors for for the exact same reasons that everyone here is concerned about (criminalizing knowing your rights, etc). Not that I have any knowledge of it, that's just what I heard.
- Phatlip012, on 08/10/2008, -6/+2They're both in a pamphlet for suspected terrorists *****. Quit reading into it so much.
- Morchades, on 08/10/2008, -4/+1Groups that wish to take down the government and replace it with a theocracy style themselves as "Defenders of the Constitution" as they plan to destroy it, and tend to be ultra-nationalistic to compensate for not understanding the actual ideals of the country. I'm glad the FBI recognizes this.
And they're right, the Left-wing extremists tend to be Marxist. That's a lefty as you get, just as the right-wing extremists tend to be religiously motivated or racially-based hate groups. This is a balanced pamphlett advising people to be on the lookout for extremism in all forms.- siszam, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1It is not illegal to be a Marxist or a Socialist. Being a Marxist does not make you a terrorist. The government can't dictate your beliefs or political association.
- Morchades, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2It's not illegal to be in a hate group either, the government doesn't dictate that. But it's a flag -- these are people who think in the extreme. Keep an eye out.
- siszam, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1It is not illegal to be a Marxist or a Socialist. Being a Marxist does not make you a terrorist. The government can't dictate your beliefs or political association.
- r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -0/+2http://www.progress.org/fold223.htm
http://seclists.org/politech/2001/Nov/0080.html
Apparently it was made by the Arizona FBI. And it's real, in case anyone was doubting that (like me).
Also, keep in mind that it was released immediately after the 9/11 attacks. Maybe they've toned things down a little since then? - daaaveg, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1"cyber penetration" hahaha
- sunshinelife, on 08/10/2008, -0/+5Deeply deeply troubling.
Ayn Rand said censorship of free speech is the call to action for armed Revolution.
This might be it. - phoobaar, on 08/10/2008, -0/+4According to this quiz...
http://www.quizilla.com/tests/4833864
...which is based on that FBI pamphlets, I am 70% domestic terrorist.
Beat that! - Khanvalescent, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Cyber Penetration. ***** JENNA JAMESON YOU BE GOING TO THE SLAMMER!!!
- pablo0713, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1I'm glad the list didn't include potheads! =)
- borez, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Eco-terrorism: Is that making bombs with organic fertilizer?
- GSX606, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2Hey, my American History teacher is always talking about the constitution, I better do the right thing and report him
- MalakaiPhoenix, on 08/10/2008, -0/+0looks like 99% of the population are terrorists...
- oMeSSiaHo, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Notice how defenders is in quotation marks? I think that is referencing people like Timothy McVeigh who are "Super Patriots", which is also listed. As for the people who quote the Constitution, that is pretty ***** up.
This is also pretty old and I would assume has been revised to done away with. - SomeHobo, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2I guess from now on I'll have to be weary of lone individuals as well as people in groups.
- adam1mc, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1FAKE
FAKE
FAKE
AND OLDER THAN DIRT
http://seclists.org/politech/2001/Nov/0080.html - adam1mc, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Politech: FC: FBI flyer links defenders of Constitution with terrorists
FC: FBI flyer links defenders of Constitution with terrorists
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From: Declan McCullagh
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:44:08 -0500
A disturbing flyer puportedly authored by the FBI's Phoenix anti-terrorism
task force has been circulating in the conservative community. The flyer
instructs the reader to report as a possible terrorist anyone who asks why
they were stopped by police or anyone who dares to defend "the U.S.
Constitution against federal [sic] government." See it for yourself:
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerr ...
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerr ...
So I gave the FBI field office a call. FBI spokesman Ed Hall confirmed the
flyer was produced by the joint anti-terrorism task force in Phoenix. But
he said it dealt with domestic terrorism: "That flyer was put out two years
ago. Someone picked it up, and put it on the Internet like it was put out
this week."
Hall admitted the section that said anyone spotting a defender of the U.S.
Constitution "should call the Joint Terrorism Task Force" was perhaps a
tiny bit ill-advised. "It could have been a bit better foundation worded
saying you're not a right-wing extremist if you defend the Constitution...
or if you ask a police officer why they're stopping you. There's some
misinterpretation there."
He added: "Not that a person who defends the Constitution is a criminal or
terrorist, or a person who askes you, 'Why did you stop me' may be a
terrorist, but certain things, I don't want to use the word common, certain
characteristics that these people who were legitimately investigated
reflect it."
-Declan
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>Source:
>Sierra Times
>http://www.SierraTimes.com/
>
>The FBI, Sheriff & County Attorney are Going After "Constitutional Terrorists"
>
>by Angel Shamaya - KeepAndBearArms.com
>
>The Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Maricopa County
>Sheriff's Office (Greater Phoenix, Arizona), and the Maricopa County
>Attorney are handing our flyers asking the recipients to help them
>fight domestic terrorism. Called the Joint Terrorism Task Force, the
>program was created, presumably, to help preserve the American
>way of life, right? - Nope.
>
>http://www.keepandbeararms.com/angel/articles/cons ...
>KeepandBearArms
>
>Public Servants Going After "Constitutional Terrorists"?
>by Angel Shamaya
>
>November 14, 2001
>
>KeepAndBearArms.com -- The Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation, the
>Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (Greater Phoenix, Arizona), and the
>Maricopa County Attorney are handing out flyers asking the recipients to
>help them fight domestic terrorism. I received one of these flyers this
>past weekend at the Arizona "Freedom in the 21st Century" gathering. One
>member of the Sheriff's Posse Reserve in attendance said he'd seen the
>flyer before and that it is legitimate. [I will be getting verification
>before this report goes live on our site, including recording phone calls
>to these people.]
>
>Called the Joint Terrorism Task Force, the program was created,
>presumably, to help preserve the American way of life, right? In part,
>probably. However, it also looks like it's a disinformation campaign to
>paint least a few groups of Real Americans as domestic terrorists. Among
>other things, the dynamic trio is asking people:
>
>"If you encounter any of the following, Call the Joint Terrorism Task Force":
>
>"defenders of the US Constitution against federal government and the UN"
>
>[That describes many civil liberties groups and most gun rights and
>American Sovereignty groups in existence -- and, by extension, their members.]
>
>"Groups of individuals engaging in para-military training"
>
>[Such as, perhaps, shooting your semi-automatic "assault weapon" with some
>friends out in the desert?"]
>
>Also being sought are "Common Law Movement Proponents" who
>
>"Request authority for a stop"
>
>[That's illegal now?]
>
>"Make numerous references to the US Constitution"
>
>[That's illegal now?]
>
>"Attempt to 'police the police'"
>
>[That's illegal now?]
>
>And let's not forget the other potential "domestic terrorists" being
>sought. We really need to watch out for these people:
>
>"Lone Individuals"
>
>[Do you meet that description?]
>
>"Rebels"
>
>[Know any gun rights activist who doesn't have at least a touch of rebel
>pumping through the old bloodstream?]
>
>Be sure and notice the following two things on the flyer, as well:
>
>1) There is NOT ONE MENTION of "Islamic Fundamentalists" anywhere.
>
>2) Defenders of the US Constitution and the common law from which it grew
>are being classified on the same level as the bottom-feeding Skinheads,
>Nazis and the KKK.
>
>
>READ THE FLYER FOR YOURSELF
>
>The flyer is a tri-fold, so you'll have to turn your head sideways to read
>one of the sections.
>
>Front Page
>http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerr ...
>
>Back Page
>http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerr ...
>
>NOTE: The far right side of the above "Front Page" is the actual front of
>the tri-fold flyer.
>The far left side of the above "Back Page" -- the part that mentions the
>'defenders of the
>US Constitution' -- is the inside flap... the first thing you see when you
>open the flyer.
>
>CONTACT THE PEOPLE PUSHING THIS "PROGRAM"
>
>FBI Phoenix Office
>
>Website: http://phoenix.fbi.gov/
> Email: phoenix_at_fbi.gov
> Special Agent in Charge - Guadalupe Gonzalez
>
>FBI's "Civil Rights" Website:
> http://phoenix.fbi.gov/contact/fo/phnx/pxcivil.htm
>
>FBI's "Counterterrorism" Website:
> http://phoenix.fbi.gov/contact/fo/phnx/pxterr.htm
>
>FBI Arizona Regional Offices:
> http://phoenix.fbi.gov/contact/fo/phnx/pxterrit.ht ...
>
>The Maricopa Sheriff's Office
>
>Website: http://www.mcso.org/
>
>Feedback form for Sheriff Joe "Give 'em green lunch meat" Arpaio:
> Via Website: http://www.mcso.org/submenu.asp?file=public
> Via Email: complaints_at_mcso.maricopa.gov, information_at_mcso.maricopa.gov
>
>Maricopa County Attorney
>
>Richard M. Romley, who shamelessly promotes himself on this taxpayer-funded
>site as "America's Unsung Hero":
> http://www.maricopa.gov/attorney/MCAOhome.asp
>
>You can tell him what an American Hero you think he is at:
> http://www.maricopa.gov/feedback/feedback.asp
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