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Qaeda targets U.S. oil interests in N.Africa: report
reuters.com — Al Qaeda's growing north Africa network plans to attack U.S. interests seeking control of the region's energy riches, its Algerian-based leader said in remarks published on Tuesday.
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- kenjonesmd, on 07/01/2008, -16/+26The USA's security interests are not to be presumed. Is Al Qaeda an organization one can go visit and negotiate a mutually acceptable truce? I think not. Their main goal is to eliminate infidels, and using deceit is one of their main tools. They have attacked a target in each of the past two presidents first terms, and can be predicted to attack a target in the next year or two. Will we be ready?
DrKen- DavidHalko, on 07/01/2008, -9/+8Al Qaeda is not an internationally recognized organization with any authority, land, borders, or citizens.
Any authority they get is by killing people and cowering civilians into disobeying their internationally recognied governments.
This is why Al Qaeda fighters are called terrorists, unlawful combatants under the Geneva Convention.
With nothing to lose, there is nothing which can be negotiated.
With no one to negotiate with, there is no one who can receive any message, or reliably transmit any message.
Without a clear chain of command in a group of people, any negotiations which could be un-theoretically made, would be un-consistently followed, undermining any results of the lawful government.- CryRightardCry, on 07/01/2008, -13/+7NO ONE is an "unlawful combatant" under the Geneva Convention, that's a term the Bush administration made up to try to redefine prisoner of war.
Why am I not surprised a rightard is ignorant of that?
Of course your comment undermines the entire idea behind the US assault on Iraq and Israel's issue with their neighbors, that being that there is a single controlling entity or chain of command behind the "terrorists".
You just pointed out that the is most likely NO single controlling force.
So what do the US and Israel do? Target innocents.
- CryRightardCry, on 07/01/2008, -13/+7NO ONE is an "unlawful combatant" under the Geneva Convention, that's a term the Bush administration made up to try to redefine prisoner of war.
- ObamaWins08, on 07/01/2008, -6/+2Did you mean Durka Durka?
- appleseed1234, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3Well that depends on how desperate the Republicans are for an attack that they can use to justify their legislation.
- DavidHalko, on 07/01/2008, -9/+8Al Qaeda is not an internationally recognized organization with any authority, land, borders, or citizens.
- Lucas123, on 07/01/2008, -14/+13If Al Qaeda's seeking control of the oil region's energy riches, maybe we should let them have it. Price gouging couldn't get much worse, and, who knows, they may even turn out to be nicer than the oil barons screwing us now.
- CryRightardCry, on 07/01/2008, -5/+7You have a point.
OPEC has us bent over in the basement, waiting for the Gimp.
Can anyone else really be worse?
Hell yeah. At least OPEC still pretends to be our friends. Kind of like our friendly heroin dealer.
You can't expect your heroin dealer to feel bad for you and cut you a deal.
He KNOWS you'll be around sooner or later. He knows he can slap you around and steal your money, because tomorrow you need your fix and you'll be back.
And he's in it to make money. He'll try to keep you hooked. When you try to get clean, he'll drop the price just enough to get you back.
America needs rehab.- geoffg, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1@CryLeftardCry
I thought there was no Al Qaeda?
- geoffg, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1@CryLeftardCry
- CryRightardCry, on 07/01/2008, -5/+7You have a point.
- JonGalt, on 07/01/2008, -14/+5Price gouging? oil barons screwing you? Your'e a moron.
1.) speculation in the market (which is nessesary to get you more oil i should add) has driven up the price. Rightly so, world oil usage increases yearly due to the entire world growing more and more each year and needing more and more energy.
2.)Oil barons bring you CHEAP ASS energy yet you bitch and complain that it doesnt meet your standard of afforcable. I say GO BUY A SOLAR PANEL AND A LITIUM BATTERY if you think its so expensive. Set it up in your home and use that. Then come tell me how long it will last, how much it will cost and WHY its not affordable at that price compared to oil/nuclear/coal all of which are great sources of energy.
You make all these big statements, but cant make one solution or understand why one thing you say is actually happening. Your pathetic.
And as far as this article is concerned its right. We help put up some puppet that murders tens of millions of people in some cases and terrorizes everyone around them. Just to get some oil...id never defend that. Allow private enterprise to negotiate with these scumbags and bring us deals, and let us decide if we want thier oil or not. People in our government that participate in this need to be held liable ad criminals that support that *****. Its quite sad.- whiterice0, on 07/01/2008, -1/+12Wow Jongalt. You must have read a newspaper today. Was that your first time?
The oil corporations just love idiots like you who believe the "oil speculation" argument. Crude oil prices have increased from $86.10 to $143.67 over the past 52 weeks, and by the end of the year oil prices are forecasted to increase to $184.73 a barrel. That would more than a 100% increase. Never before in history have oil prices risen so quickly and with explanation -- and your esteemed evaluation of this is ... speculation and increased use? It's obvious that your argument comes from what you're being told by the MSM.
It's you making the grand statements and coming off as a moron.- PolishLogic, on 07/01/2008, -3/+5Of course, for every article you read that forecasts $184 a barrel, you can also find articles predicting that $150 a barrel will burst the bubble. Then prices will begin to recede.
100 different sources will give you 100 different viewpoints to argue. - CryRightardCry, on 07/01/2008, -3/+4@polishlogic
Yeah, but some of those viewpoints have been more accurate than others.
The rightard extremists have a very low accuracy.
Probably comes from working from ***** information and believing anything a Bush rep tells them.
- PolishLogic, on 07/01/2008, -3/+5Of course, for every article you read that forecasts $184 a barrel, you can also find articles predicting that $150 a barrel will burst the bubble. Then prices will begin to recede.
- CryRightardCry, on 07/01/2008, -3/+4Here's the thing: you are always wrong.
As a rightard shill you've cheered for failure for YEARS.
Digg day after digg day I watch you shill for failure and lies and warmongering.
Day after day you make ridiculous ignorant claims, and day after day you are proven not just wrong, but completely clueless.
And you are getting it wrong again.
But keep it up, big oil needs shills who believe everything they say without any critical thought applied.
- whiterice0, on 07/01/2008, -1/+12Wow Jongalt. You must have read a newspaper today. Was that your first time?
- DavidHalko, on 07/01/2008, -12/+5Al Qaeda will do whatever it can do, in order to kill, mame, and cower Muslims into submission... this increases their base of power by which they can extract children as new recruits.
These governments are often not friendly to terrorists, so by dislodging the government which keep order - they get the side benefit of terrorizing the people, killing moderate opponents, and harvesting future terrorists through the seeds they will plant.
By aligning themselves against oil interests, they are ironically playing on personal difficulties of common people in order to extend their influence.
The (Western, influence deficient) Communists, Liberals, and Terrorists are all aligned against this great "boogyman" of oil harvesters.
The Communists (who are in power and selling the oil, i.e. Chavez), former Communists (i.e. Russia), and great seats of terrorist bubbling civilizations (i.e. Mid-East) are raking in the profits.
Private oil companies are the only people being squeezed out of existence - to the joy of the Communists, Liberals (who want Communism), Terrorists, and foreign countries (who control international Oil supplies) in the great effort to eliminate global freedom.
There are some who may disagree, or may be a part of these broad categories who may disagree - but perhaps closer inspection by those persons may lead them to a similar conclusion. - Truzseeker, on 07/01/2008, -13/+25Buried for propaganda ... "Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet". A very common and widespread use of the word "Al-Qaeda" in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb "Qa'ada" which mean "to sit", pertinently, on the "Toilet Bowl". In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: "Al-Qaeda" also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or "Arab toilet" which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called "Ma Qa'adia" or "Little Qaeda".
So, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, "The Toilet"?- quesi, on 07/01/2008, -5/+15Exactly, the group was created in 98 to try bin laden in absentia with RICO. Search "the power of nightmares" on you tube, and you can watch the bbc documentary where ex high level cia operatives spill the beans on this bull *****. While you're at it, search: Rumsfeld caves and you can see the lamest lie they've attempted to get away with. Hi-tech, fortified, hydro electric powered caves. My ass.
- juttman, on 07/01/2008, -12/+5What are u waiting for George, nuke'em
- Carl306, on 07/01/2008, -5/+6What an enlightening and thought provoking method for dealing with any problem our country faces.
- 8m4ck, on 07/01/2008, -8/+11Please Big Brother, keep us safe from the terrists - ATTACK AFRICA!
/s - Ninh, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6It may be interesting for the FBI to look at the oil futures market regarding terrorist groups funding themselves with a few choice remarks like this ...
- dukeeeey, on 07/01/2008, -9/+10Commenting on the possible role of Al Qaeda, Blair said, "Al Qaeda is not an organization. Al Qaeda is a way of working ... but this has the hallmark of that approach."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162476,00.html
Al Qaeda doesn't exist. Wake up fools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTTgpsAs4_c- FatBurger, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Way to take the comment out of context. Notice how in the next paragraph he says that Al Qaeda "...provides training...".
It's like the millions of other times I've heard someone say "____ isn't ____, it's a way of life".- Hangly, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3He's right. The name and the organization were made up by the FBI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnhVxnXYK2k
They wanted to prosecute Bin Laden and other terrorist leaders under existing organized crime laws, and do do that there needs to be an organization. The FBI pulled the name and the concept of "Al Qaeda" right out of their asses.
Arabs don't create huge international organizations. They just aren't that organized. That's how Israel was able to crush them in the Six Day War and Yom Kippur War even though they were vastly outnumbered. One Israeli commander described them as "a thousand one-man armies."
And these same people are supposed to be able to manage and maintain a multi-billion-dollar highly-organized global organization? From caves? Are you ***** serious? They can't even afford a decent camcorder to record their threatening videos with.
Al Qaeda doesn't exist. It never existed. It's something that was invented to scare scare the public into compliance.
- Hangly, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3He's right. The name and the organization were made up by the FBI.
- FatBurger, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Way to take the comment out of context. Notice how in the next paragraph he says that Al Qaeda "...provides training...".
- swrostmore, on 07/01/2008, -6/+14I'm sure that bombing dirt-poor Africans with Predator drones while our companies exploit their land's natural resources has nothing to do with anti-Americanism in that region. We just can't help the fact that our Freedom provokes mindless berzerker rage in all Muslims! The solution is clearly to drop more bombs, and maybe covertly finance a dictator or two.
- CHANNELOCK, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Thats the plan..same ol same old
- daimposter, on 07/01/2008, -2/+6where are all the funny comments?
- 8m4ck, on 07/01/2008, -7/+8http://youtube.com/watch?v=pRwCTUiiX1c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBmCtdmgX5c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pkyS6sIMRL8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VsMo4KY4E2c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PDXd1sb97SI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7XGOpVgsFE - jlhoben, on 07/01/2008, -6/+6Oh no! Check your closet and under your bed!!!!
- poidh, on 07/01/2008, -4/+3In your case, only the wank mags stolen from your uncle will be found. Oh, and some crusty tissues.
- Hangly, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2I'm not looking in my closet, what if there's a terrist evil-doer in there?
- poidh, on 07/01/2008, -6/+8Al Qaeda isn't an organisation which requires its members to wear badges. Let's get that straight.
Al Qaeda is an ideology which states that all non-Muslims must be murdered or subjugated so that the rule of Muhammad and Allah can reign supreme over as much territory as possible.
If you find someone holding this ideology, which threatens the survival and prosperity of the human rance, if you can get away with it, then you kill them.- swrostmore, on 07/01/2008, -5/+3I think you are confusing AQ with wahhabiism.
- poidh, on 07/01/2008, -1/+6I'm not confusing it. It's the same thing. Wahabiism is basically true Islam, which is what al Qaeda wants to install over the wholre planet. Call it Wahabiism or call it Salafism or call it Islam; same *****, different name (to fool the stupid infidels).
- Hangly, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1Wahabism exists. Al Qaeda does not.
Poidh, you're a retard. - swrostmore, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Hangly, that's actually what Poidh is saying. AQ = Wahhabism = militant Muslim ideology. In other words AQ is whichever radical Muslim group that decides to call themselves AQ, or whoever we decide to label AQ. Sunni militants in Iraq? AQ! Tribal fighters in Pakistan? AQ! Militia in Africa? AQ!
Aside from the original group of about 800 fighters surrounding Usama, 80% of which have been killed or captured, the term AQ has no fundamental meaning. It's just an idea to rally the troops around, whether as a faceless enemy to attack or as an expansionist ideology to fight for. - Jlaugh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2@Poidh
Calling Wahabiism true Islam is like pointing out the craziest evangelicals in America and calling them true Christianity.
- swrostmore, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4Wow, you are in eerily perfect agreement with "the Jihadist Leon Trotski" Abu Musab alSuri:
Heretically, al-Suri all but begs bin Laden not to rebuild Al Qaeda. In al-Suri's view, Al Qaeda should become an ideology, an ethic and a virtual community. "I was searching for a method which the enemy has no way of aborting," al-Suri explains in "The Call," "even when he understands the method and its procedures, and arrests two-thirds of his operators."
Rather than reestablish a loose network of terrorist cells with the remnants of a command-and-control structure, al-Suri urged aspiring terrorists to simply murder people in the organization's name. One could become a member of Al Qaeda by "a system of action, not a centralized, secret organization for action."
http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/al-qaeda ...- poidh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Correct. This is how terrorist cells spring up without contact to al Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan. It's the ideology which drives them, not orders from a "boss".
- swrostmore, on 07/01/2008, -5/+3I think you are confusing AQ with wahhabiism.
- briLo, on 07/01/2008, -3/+6I think I speak for a lot of folks when I say this........***** Al Qaeda!!!!!
- lazerus9, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1Oh Yes!...And I'm sure that it is Al Qaeda go long with Brent Sea crude calls!
- trackerbishop, on 07/01/2008, -13/+16al qaeda is just a term made up by the US to classify anyone who fights against US imperialism. al qaeda = 'the base' and probably doesnt even exist as an organized cell.
9/11 was an inside job- CHANNELOCK, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2agree
- poidh, on 07/01/2008, -2/+5I've just read up in the comments. There are fruits in this thread. There's an award for the most self-hating comment, so let's hear it.
- Hangly, on 07/02/2008, -2/+1Just one account per customer please, poidh. No way five people are digging up all your comments.
- poidh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
So I made five accounts, then each time I want to digg myself up I reboot my modem to get a new IP and clear my cookies so that digg won't catch on.
How is it up there is cloud cuckoo land?
- poidh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
- Hangly, on 07/02/2008, -2/+1Just one account per customer please, poidh. No way five people are digging up all your comments.
- rz8472, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Buried. Africa isn't even on that "The World According to Americans' JPEG, therefore it's irrelavent.
As for China, which is pumping $80 billion into the last untapped resource fields in the world, it's another matter. I guess that's one advantage of having your country run by ruthless technocrats... no one can call them dumb. - Ferre1, on 07/01/2008, -7/+7AH! how predictable, El CIAda paves the way for more military interventions in oil rich countries, and how convenient.
* Waiting for the next "Osama video" that confirms El CIAda's story.
In all seriousness, do Americans still believe this bullcrap??
Btw, I burried this bullcrap propaganda for what it is.- Barackalypse, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2I believe it, the MEND terrorist group has already attacked oil infrastructure in Nigeria, so why wouldn't I believe other groups or more attacks will continue?
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSL03691372 ...
- Barackalypse, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2I believe it, the MEND terrorist group has already attacked oil infrastructure in Nigeria, so why wouldn't I believe other groups or more attacks will continue?
- dmark77, on 07/01/2008, -2/+4Like the rubber tree during WWII (which we used to make tires) - ***** with our supply to make/do stuff will only motivate us to create our own alternative/don't need your ass version.
- Barackalypse, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2Thanks Al-Queda, you guys are making my Canadian oil trusts even more profitable! If you guys really want to cause trouble, attack the bigger produces like Saudi Arabia.
- superman9908, on 07/01/2008, -6/+0These terrorists want nothing but death and power they don't deserve. That country is the worst place to live on the planet other than Africa. The high roller gangs got control of there government, now they think can take over the U.S. just cause we get our oil from them and it may be it some written profit. Screw that The U.S. is only over there for the people that are being killed for no reason The al Qaeda is fighting a losing battle on both sides of the ring feel me. The only thing we as U.S. citizens have to worry about is the new president tacking our troops out prematurely. I wouldn’t want to be at war forever either, but don't leave a job not finished. Africa is another country the U.S. is soon goanna be beefing with that place is all messed up. Pray for theses people.
- jamesmudgett, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2quick lets all buy more stock in oil
- NelsonR, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Someone needs to tell George that wars by conventional means against a cloaked cowardly enemy doesn't work very smartly. If George just gave 1/1000 thousands of the money squandered in Iraq and gave the money to the scum of the earth they would have defeated Bin Laden by now. It's called undercover politics at work whereas the lower class benefit while the rich are screwed with no kickbacks.
- LowFuel, on 07/01/2008, -1/+4When did we start dropping the "Al"?
- IAmTheGuy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2The second Reuters became hip and poppin fresh.
- JustGags, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Who's Al?
- blacktriangle, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3More convenient poppycock propaganda direct from the Misadministration.
- defektiv, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2and all we need to know? gas prices are going up..
- Jib3, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Wow, right where China gets its oil from. How convenient the group created by our government comes in to save the day. They always seem to come in right when the criminal elite needs something stired up. What a crazy coincidence. I guess china will have to go the russia to get its oil like Zbigniews plan was all along.
Stop believing the lies from your government. - aupton, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Bah more news generated by the American news machine... Why should we believe this is anything more than a pre-meditated news message with the sole purpose of generating fear and raising the price of oil even further? WAKE UP SHEEP!
- mujahideenryder, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3BS
- nickstang, on 07/02/2008, -2/+1Obama, Please revamp our energy policy.
Even France seems to have already figured out that clean nuclear energy is the future and that's why we aren't seeing them caught up in government lies in order to fool american's into wars where the real motive is to control the flow of oil. - dunktim, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Oil doesn't exist in North Africa. If it did, we'd give a ***** about the continent.
- CHANNELOCK, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Southern Sudan has Oil...China is pumping it now
- HanFastolfe, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Libya would like a word with you.
http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/doeme/pa ...
- trenchfever, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2OMFG!
- SilverBlade2k, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2I wouldn't be suprised if the 'higher ups' in the oil companies are hiring Al-Qeada members to attack the oil field to cause instability, to bring up the price of oil.
- CHANNELOCK, on 07/02/2008, -2/+2Heck If I'm some bored unemployed poor African why not blow up a pipeline or two just for the ***** of it...what else is their to do in a God forsaken land where you have to ***** in a hole and your only reading material is a worn out Koran.
- cloud3151, on 07/02/2008, -2/+0dude Al-Qaeda is like a mob. it's almost like a mafia but with pissed off muslims. so if they do try to attach africa to get our oil, nothing's going to happen. mayb the whole continent of africa will hate them for causing violence in their territory, but that's about it. but u still hav to watch out for terrorist attacks. i mean yea the airport has massive security now, but terrorists r in america as well, so they mite just hide their identity, and high jack a plane like last time and try to attack.
- Jlaugh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1No one will ever let someone hijack a jet with box cutters again. No one will ever let that ***** happen again in America.
- Jlaugh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1No one will ever let someone hijack a jet with box cutters again. No one will ever let that ***** happen again in America.
- mrcoderga, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Whenever the Terrists interfere with an oil exporting country, that country tends to become a US colony.
For their safety of course.
Iraq, Iran, North Africa.... Do I smell another colony coming soon? - neozeed, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Yes yes yes, the CIA needs to restrict the oil to push the price up.
It's a good thing the CIA has our business (oh wait they moved to Dubai) intrests at heat. - nydwarf, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Thanks Reuters, here goes the price of oil up another 3 or 4 dollars!
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