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Putin Advanced Team Caught Using Counterfeit U.S. Money!
seacoastonline.com — Portsmouth police received a call from the liquor store that the man and his friends were on foot, headed to the nearby Holiday Inn. Police responded to the scene. A dispatch message on the police scanner said diplomatic immunity might be involved.
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- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+45He should have asked his buddy Kim Jong Il to print some up for him. I hear their fakes pass the fake pen test.
- Faubio, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9ROFL
- cyberdork, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I think you are referring to the mysterious "Supernotes". Almost perfectly counterfeit 100 Dollar bills. As soon as you research just a little bit about the complexity of the printing system (including the security inks) you will realize that it's almost impossible that NK is the source of those supernotes. Here is a nice run down of the known facts on the supernote:
http://schlaus.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/08/511266-supernotes-the-mystery-of-the-counterfeited-dollar-bills
Sounds like a wacko conspiracy theory :-) But it seems like that this is the conclusion members of the high security printing press industry came up with. - signal15, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1People have been passing the pen test for years by printing their fake money on bleached $1 bills. It's actually not bleach, but something else that removes the ink.
The Discovery Channel used to air a great show on counterfeiting, but I haven't seen it for a couple of years. Up until 1990 or so, almost all of the counterfeit money found was done on a press, with about 10% on color copy machines. Now, 90% of it found is printed on inkjet printers using a computer, usually by amateurs who figure out how to do it on the internet.
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13"Liquor store manager Mike Smith said the man, accompanied by four other Russian men, attempted to purchase two bottles of Scotch whiskey with the bum $100."
Scotch. Not Vodka.
Wasn't Scotch invented by a little old lady in Leningrad? - jmpeagle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+36it was shocking to them that laws are actually enforced in the U.S.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Nah. Cheney's still in power. He's setting a bad example for the Russians.
- mhockey14221, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3That and the little law about crossing a long line down south.
- TalkingBanana, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12I'd be scared if I were that shopkeeper. Don't ***** with the Russians.
- reboare, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Didn't Rocky 3 teach you anything? GOFORIT. pffffft
- GusTurbo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2That was Rocky IV...
- reboare, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Didn't Rocky 3 teach you anything? GOFORIT. pffffft
- thepolkapunk, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10RTFA. They don't know whether or not the men are associated with Putin's advance team. Is it possible? Yes. But let's not start with this rumor mongering.
- breser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Not only that they don't even know if it was really counterfeit money. Those pens can false positive. The pen contains an iodine solution that reacts to starch used in the production of most inexpensive copier paper. Starch is not used in paper US money is printed on.
However, there are many reasons why you might get a false positive. Money printed in the 1950s has a different pH level that can cause a false positive. The pens age and after some use can cause false positives. Further, the currency may have simply come in contact with starch.
These pens primary purpose is to detect currency made by copying with color copiers/printers. These counterfeits are usually poorly done and would not stand up to any extensive scrutiny due to the security features. Businesses like liquor stores use the pens because the pens are quick and easy to use and catch amateur counterfeits most of the time.
If Russia was indeed counterfeiting US currency they would be unlikely to be so sloppy. It's not difficult to find high quality papers that would not cause positive results with such pens, nor would they be likely to have an advance team for their President spending them.
Without the police actually getting the bill and inspecting the security features we have no idea if it was really counterfeit. Marked inaccurate.
More information on the pens:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question212.htm
http://www.kcpd.org/masterindex/Files/dm/DM0512.pdf (from a manual used by the Kansas City Missouri Police Department regarding identifying counterfeit currency)- sabach, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You should RTFA as well...
The bill ""...turned a color that it's not supposed to, and when he saw that, he grabbed the bill back and left," said Smith."
Odd behavior from someone who has done nothing wrong.
- sabach, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You should RTFA as well...
- moltar2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That's right. Another thing to note is that in Russia, US money are very strictly handled. Most places will not accept money if they are not new, especially of high denomination. I think most of the new paper US money go to Russia first :) Seriously, all the bills are very crisp. Even banks often will not accept worn our US money. Here is a true story on this information. I live in Canada, and my uncle from Russia came to visit us here. He brought some US money with him. When he went to the bank, here in Canada, they didn't recognize the money because of the fact that they were so new and crisp, and because a new bill was just introduced. I don't remember which bill it was, but this was about 5 years ago. The teller had to call her manager to verify.
- breser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Not only that they don't even know if it was really counterfeit money. Those pens can false positive. The pen contains an iodine solution that reacts to starch used in the production of most inexpensive copier paper. Starch is not used in paper US money is printed on.
- miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4Maybe they used phony money because they were buying phony American beer! ;-)They're saving their REAL money for Canada. (OK. so it was scotch!)
- cwoolf34, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2I have been to that little town so many times when I was younger. I hope Putin gets a cap in his ass. Someone should put poison in his soup.
- str3ama, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6diplomatic immunity owns..[sing peter griffin song resembling MC Hammer's Can't Touch This]
- ConeOfSilence, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6diplomatic immunity always reminds me of " Lethal Weapon".........diplomatic immuuuuuuinty
- weebit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Well, regardless if they was with Putin or not... Judging by the article they did not know. I would careful and check ALL of their money. It could be they did not know it was Counterfeit. Or maybe they did know, and didn't think the bill would be tested.
- BESTenemy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7 Only government can take a precious commodity such as paper and turn it worthless by printing on it. Personally, I feel like my real money's worth just about as much as any fake, especially knowing that thugs that run the presses do that at will.
When FED does it, it's fine, when people do it, it's a crime. - VeganG, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12Diplomatic immunity is the most ***** concept to ever be dreamed up. No one should be above the law.
- Farnn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12They aren't above the lave,they simply are not subject to our laws. There is a reason for a concept such as diplomatic immunity, just imagine world diplomacy without something like it. it would be total chaos. Anyway, if they do break the law, they are generally sent back to their native country where they are often punished for the crime.(really depends on their home country)
- abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It is definitely so that individuals who may not know all of another country's laws don't get snagged for something stupid. If they murdered or raped someone, they would still get prosecuted for it, just in their home country like you said.
- vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well... If we sent a female ambassador to Saudi Arabia and they threw her in prison for not wearing a burka, don't you think that would strain our relations? Or maybe spark a war?
The reason for diplomatic immunity is not because the ambassadors can run around willy nilly and break laws, but to prevent awkward situations that could lead to something like... say WWIII.
- Farnn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12They aren't above the lave,they simply are not subject to our laws. There is a reason for a concept such as diplomatic immunity, just imagine world diplomacy without something like it. it would be total chaos. Anyway, if they do break the law, they are generally sent back to their native country where they are often punished for the crime.(really depends on their home country)
- fearlessfx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9' "It turned a color that it's not supposed to, and when he saw that, he grabbed the bill back and left," said Smith.'
Red, perhaps?- mustafya, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Black, the counterfeit pens turn the paper black. Of course they also do false negatives quite frequently. At the bank I work at you are required to know the security features (colored cotton, strip, extra portrait (name of it escapes me), microprinting, etc) and check those before you submit the bill to the USSS as a suspect counterfeit (which I have done before also).
- cjhandley, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Diplomatic immunity only applies to the diplomat and the diplomat's family. Also, consular immunity applies to someone working in the consul if the action was committed while discharging their duties. Either way, I don't see why they think the Russian secret service is protected.
Also, even then the diplomatic immunity can be waved by the home country. - MetalLizard, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18*Nothing good ever comes from Russia*
The first people in space. The only country besides the United States that was a super power at one point in time. Inventors of some of the finest technology known to man. All of this after completely revamping their country after the Russian Revolution, and suffering the most losses during WW1, and WW2. I'd say they rank up pretty damn high on the list of countries that have contributed greatly within the last century.- BowieX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Hello, post? This is reply. (See how it works?)
- tehxen3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And engulfing its and east european citizens in the most tyrannical political system known to man, next to fascism.
- BeyondGoodNEvil, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Well, their space program was largely from German scientists. We just got the better of the German scientists, especially Von Braun. German technology was significantly ahead of the rest of the world, and we got a large bulk of it luckily. The Germans were decades ahead in many technologies.
- mhockey14221, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Female tennis players.
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1those were women?
- Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Kettelbells came from russia
- a33a, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What about the Britain , Britain was a superpower at one point in time for 800 years in fact.
- twinklyJesus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@metallizard:
"Inventors of some of the finest technology known to man. "
Um, really? What, for instance?
Actually, they were/are some of the most prolific adopters of reverse-engineered technology on the planet. Second only to the Chinese. Aside from their space program, both the US & USSR used captured/defected engineers and tech. to achieve, most of their electronics and other technology was and is decades behind Western standards. Unless they "found" some data or items to reverse-engineer. Most of their advancements in aircraft engineering came from American aircraft they were given through lend-lease during WWII. - caleuche, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wasn't the first person in space Ukrainian?
- wildart, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0I guess guys with fake $100 bill could be from evil and antidemocratic secret service if Bush happens to meet evil and antidemocratic president. Cheap propaganda!
- wubblie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Are you speaking English? I don't think what you just wrote makes sense.
- aramova, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2In Soviet Russia, American Money Copies YOU!
- mmacmu1, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Bury for misleading title
- audiophiliac, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I have to agree that the title was misleading completely, maybe if it led to a story about Putin and his fake printing press that would be better. And how cool would that be to bust Putin with his own counterfeit atm printing out his own money in America?
- audiophiliac, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Diplomatic Immunity? Russia shouldn't have that privilege on our soil when one month ago Putin announced where his nuclear weapons were pointed.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Sounds like Putin isn't going to wait for George Bush to put a knife in his back.
I think he is serious about disrupting US activities around the world. But more specifically, BushCo's plans to take control of oil reserves. Although Putin has made claims to the North Pole before... I'm sure the timing was before a suspected US invasion of Iran.
This is all about a quiet "Resource War" not a "Cold War." But Russia could quietly sit back and just make money -- being an exporter of energy resources, and benefitting from Global Warming by turning Siberia and other areas into some of the richest farm land in the world. Just like the US used to deal with the world -- by competing and creating.
I think much of this was started by Bush's allies in the intelligence community. The NeoCon's have specialized in election fixing around the globe. They helped to install a pro US politico in Ukraine -- and many of the NeoCon's most loyal hatchet men are Ukrainian seperatists. Also known as the "Russian Israeli Mafia" -- of which Lysenko was a weapons merchant for them.
Putin is a bit similar to Bush .... except that he is 100 IQ points smarter, and is loyal to Russia -- not international Oil Barons like Bush.
This counterfeit money reminds me of the $3,000,000,000 found in Manilla of US Treasury bills. Even with large notes ($100 each), it would require a 3 box cars on a train to move it. It was reported as counterfeit -- but what would it mean if it were real? 4 British men suspected of the theft/counterfeit were arrested and let go on bail (no, not kidding) -- of course they skipped and never came back. Do you think they were worried about getting their Bond back? Anyway, this was a HUGE deal, that never made a blip on US news -- I think it was important to find out more about Michael Jackson's trial at the time -- but you should be able to find the story here;
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=20818
>> Though the story seems to be much harder to find these days. The interesting "take home" about such a story is; that you can't make 300 Billion ANYTHING at the local Kinkos. To produce that many treasury notes, you'd need a major institution -- perhaps a government to back you. Do you think 4 Guys pulled this off? No. And you wouldn't trust that there wasn't a lot of support behind this from somewhere -- so if they were caught, it seems that one large government faction is tripping up the other. $3 Trillion could destabilize the US economy - or fund a private army to occupy a whole country for 10 years.
Was this part of a bigger deal, of a CIA agent and some terrorism in Manilla;
http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=3080&catID=2
Is Putin bringing back the cloak and dagger fight with the US? Or is this just some nonsense, so that the Media can paint Russia as the new bad guy -- so we don't have to listen to another critic? How could anyone know... when you have the lying or stupid media, repeating comments from a known lying government, about another country, which could also be lying. I'm only sure that It's very likely, not what we are told (at least who and why). But if it is Putin -- then we are building up some serious trouble in the future.
All I know is, that every day that Bush sits in office, the United States gets closer to some great calamity.- Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0You managed to come up with all that because one single bill was passed by a random russian.
Wow - davidsetagaya, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I dug you up just so people could see what a loon you are! Congrats, a digg is a digg, right?
- williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1$3trillion is about 30% of the money supply.
How much has the $ slid relative to the Euro?
And they say inflation is low.
Doesn't add up.
- Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0You managed to come up with all that because one single bill was passed by a random russian.
- deusdiabolus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Does this count as some sort of weird-ass COINTELPRO maneuver to get us to hate Russia more?
- GalaxyJob, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1ONE fake $100 bill? For God's sake - what s so interesting in it to make it first-page Digg news?!
=) - davidave, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2what a worthless article...they can't even establish the men actually work for the russian government...because bush visits a foreign city does it make all the americans there secret service agents?
- GonzoLiga, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2And this is the "Advanced" Team? I wonder what the "Primitive Team" tried to pass. Oops, I mean, "Primitived" Team.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The Fed doesn't like competition!
- erkokite, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Nice. I live right near by. I'm surprised we haven't be getting more hale, thunderstorms, and dark clouds with both Putin and Bush so close by. I guess the temperature did drop about 9 C right during their arrival.
- GusTurbo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Interesting unit of temperature you used there.
- erkokite, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Despite the fact that English units of measure are used in my country, I refuse to use them, as they build bad habits, are backwards compared to the rest of the world, and are utterly inferior to the metric system. Besides, not everyone on digg is American, and undoubtedly most diggers, American or not, find English units just as vile as I do.
- GusTurbo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Interesting unit of temperature you used there.
- pandira, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2William Cooper read many years ago, on his radio broadcast, The Hour of the Time, a list of serial numbers of one hundred American dollar bill plates that were intentionally shipped to the Soviet Union by our own State Department.
- Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The plates are quite useless you realize
- pandira, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2actually, they were also supplied with the "paper" and the ink. The only anomoly was the repetition of numbers, otherwise, they were Fedral Reserve Notes. Don't know about what is happening now. maybe they lost access to the ink orr the paper.
- Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The plates are quite useless you realize
- mtekka, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3hmm...well if these guys really work for the Russian secret service, I would think that they'd have access to higher quality counterfeit money...or maybe it's more a testament to the continued stagnant state of the Russian Federation.
- Monstradamus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Comment form the site the article is on:
"Replace the words "Russian" and "Putin" with the words "Black man" and "US president" and you should quickly realise how idiot this article and most of the comments actually are.Or you could just remain sleeping manipulated sheep..."
Yep, media is still xenophobic - Rince, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Having worked closely with this sort of people the only thing I can conclude is that this guy and his friend are in deep trouble. He potentially embarassed Putin. In other words, repeat with a Russian accent: "This will be dealt with internally".
BTW. Diplomatic immunity was a.o. invented to stop people killing other nations envoys as a hobby.
Those wanting to get rid of it and demanding adherence to local law should also look at the actions of their own government representatives abroad. As an example: the US is known for "repatriating" diplomatic staff within hours if they are in some way connected to a crime or the cause of an accident. - davidsetagaya, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If true, this means Putin's advance security detail couldn't afford anything better than the Holiday Inn?
I'd say Stalin is rolling in his grave, but isn't he in some refrigerator on display somewhere? Any rolling going on in there? - AsylumAleikum, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Evidently, the advanced team is paid in counterfeit bills. "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us".
- chatmasta, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Wow, that's 5 minutes from my house. I'll have to see what I can find out.
- ThDecider, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1ROFLCOPTER anyone?
If they're Russian diplomats, I'd think they would be able to stay in a nicer place than the Portsmouth Holiday Inn. That place is grimy. But then again, I'd think they'd also be able to afford a bottle of whiskey.
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