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Police say man fed pet kittens and cats to his pit bulls
hosted.ap.org — LAWRENCEVILLE, Ga. (AP) -- A man captured neighborhood cats and kittens and fed them live to his pit bulls, authorities said Thursday. Tye Hilmo, 21, was charged Thursday with aggravated cruelty to animals.
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- coltrane68, on 10/10/2007, -16/+193Douse him with meat broth and lock him in a cage with his vile dogs.
- jwdarkstar, on 10/10/2007, -5/+71Yeah, but break his arms and legs first.
- jbmercha, on 10/10/2007, -17/+3OK, It's bad that he fed other people's animals to his own, but come on. I feed mice to my snake all the time... hell I feed cows to my kids. It's called a food chain.
- DiamondIce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9So you send your kids out into a farmyard and tell them to chow down on a live cow? No, you don't, the cow is killed first in a very painless manner. This guy fed the cats ALIVE to the dogs. Not only that but these were kittens, that he wounded no less, there was no way they could defend them selves. It's barbaric, plain and simple. Not only that, this guy didn't do it to keep his dogs alive (if he wanted to feed his dogs meat instead of kibble he could have got scraps from the butchers shop), he did it for his own twisted pleasure.
- Tarl, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Looks like diamondice has never been to a slaughterhouse
- jbmercha, on 10/10/2007, -17/+3OK, It's bad that he fed other people's animals to his own, but come on. I feed mice to my snake all the time... hell I feed cows to my kids. It's called a food chain.
- JAVandiver, on 10/10/2007, -2/+57Cut him too, so they can smell blood.
- yfguitarist, on 10/10/2007, -35/+8Why? So they can lick their master to death?
- klovisskudgens, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Why Douse him with anything. Those dog would have attacked him regardless
- graemee, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1When they get hungry enough, any training will fail, him.
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -7/+17Just as I thought...we who appreciate cats should not be messed with.
How about a less violent response:
Gently lower him, unharmed, into a tank of hungry sharks. Small sharks are best, since they take smaller bites.
I ask myself...are we becoming like the kitties we love so much?
What would a cat do?
How about just scratching his eyes out, and then letting him live out his life without eyes?
I keed, I keed! (that makes it OK)- capiCrimm, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5tar and fur him?
- Gir53457, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5This story basically killed my good mood I had all day. I don't have many of those.
- fyngyrz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+68Look, I'm a cat lover; and I find this appalling. But don't blame the dogs. They're no more vile than the cats are (if you've ever seen what a cat does to a mouse, you'll know just how effective a carnivore a cat is.) Blame the owner; he's entirely at fault for conditioning these dogs to eat cats. Unfortunately, the dogs will probably have to be put down now.
Having said that, ok, let's get the meat broth.- itseffinkasey, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8Thank you for bringing some intelligence to these posts! I have a pit bull, and my first thought was "great another moron making pit bulls look bad." Which is exactly what happened from reading these posts. I hate the fellow digger these days.
- TheDreadDiggerD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I can sympathize with you. I love dogs but don't own any due to housing and financial reasons. People that train dogs to be vicious for the sake of their own devices makes me sick. Screw putting him in a cage with the dogs. Put the bastard in a cage with me!
- cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Yep, good point. Some dogs will eat cats naturally. Feeding them intentionally for conditioning or for cruelty is a different matter.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3If by dogs you mean wild wolves and coyotes, sure. I've never seen a domesticated dog eat a cat before.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7What do you think is on their mind when they chase cats? Playing?
- cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Unfortunately, I have. A childhood friend had an Irish Wolfhound that had a habit of killing neighborhood cats if he got loose.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3If by dogs you mean wild wolves and coyotes, sure. I've never seen a domesticated dog eat a cat before.
- itseffinkasey, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8Thank you for bringing some intelligence to these posts! I have a pit bull, and my first thought was "great another moron making pit bulls look bad." Which is exactly what happened from reading these posts. I hate the fellow digger these days.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Yeah, the dogs didn't do anything, they were just misfortunate enough to have an owner that trained them to be vicious.
- darkened, on 10/10/2007, -25/+12I'll be buried for this but it needs to be said this man did nothing wrong other than if he was taking other people's pets. This is no different than feeding a snake a rabbit. Would you be up arms over that? I think not. The food chain exists for a reason.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -11/+16Except dogs don't normally eat cats you retard.
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -7/+10Except dogs are canines, which eat just about any medium-large animal that has meat. We condition dogs to be docile, and to eat the crap that we want them to eat, but left to their own I'm sure they'd find cats mighty tasty.
- Gir53457, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Just as my cats eat any small bird or rodent they come across. Except that I don't capture, harm and feed the defenseless rodent to my cat just to watch "Buddy" eat it. The fact of the matter is that cats are not pests, they were hunted, maimed, and killed for his own sick enjoyment. Even as a woodsman, if I kill an animal, I have the sense to end it's life swiftly and as painless as I can with respect to it's place in nature. Even fish who have no sense of pain or fear.
- cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Fallacious. The military will shoot dogs in warzones for feeding on human corpses. Man's best friend will eat what's available, including cats.
Do you think this owner had to force the cat on the pitbulls? Starve them to eventually eat the cats? I bet they were like "mmm mmm fresh meat nom nom nom! Tastes like chicken!"- pixelate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Did you just say "nom nom nom" and create the most disturbing LOLcats mental image ever?
- redcyren, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0Also, don't forget that we as consumerist humans, like dogs or cats, have also been "trained" to eat a particular diet. We shop at grocery stores and eat socially acceptable meats, fruits and vegetables. Had it not been for years of our own development, we'd still be killing deer and rabbits, or other mammals for food on a regular basis. This will probably spark some hunting, venison, fishing, native, etc. thoughts on acquiring food. We live in a civilized society, with more civilized pets. Act like it.
- exomni, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10TO Akaji: EXACTLY. We CONDITION AND BREED dogs to eat what we want them to eat. Conditioning and breeding a Dog over years and generations of mixing to be civil and subservient to us, and then making them eat kittens is a sick and immoral crime against the dog.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2But it sure beats kibble.
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -7/+10Except dogs are canines, which eat just about any medium-large animal that has meat. We condition dogs to be docile, and to eat the crap that we want them to eat, but left to their own I'm sure they'd find cats mighty tasty.
- digguerre, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6WTF? You're implying that stealing people's pet animals and killing them for fun is somehow "part of the food chain"? You got your wish *****. Buried.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -11/+16Except dogs don't normally eat cats you retard.
- cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21They should feed him to a wood chipper.
- znachtman, on 10/10/2007, -10/+16I can haz cheezburgar? Oh, I am teh cheezburgar?
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14I can haz -- OMGZ! RUN!
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6Dogs are naturally carnivores. Feeding live animals to a carnivorous pet is nothing new and not cruelty. The only reason this is messed up is that he was doing it with neighbors' pets. If you've ever owned a snake or any other animal that is naturally carnivorous, live food is not that big a deal. Cats will eat the hell out of live food too if they get hold of any. They even play with it and torture it first. Animals will eat what they can eat.
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Umm, you might want to move to a country where defending cat torture is not completely stupid.
- CannedMango, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Yes, that will make us better than him...
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The difference between us and him is that we're just talking *****, but he's the one that actually tortured those animals and had them brutally killed.
- lOvOl, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Better yet, how about throwing him and his dogs in a cage of hungry Bengal tigers for some real Karmic justice.
- illuzionmod, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0What Karma?? He was feeding his dogs.
- aldenhg, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Don't blame the dogs! Pit bulls are great dogs and the only reason they ever turn mean is the people who own them! Don't ***** up the dog with abuse and it won't attack anyone. You do have to be careful to a certain extent with Pits, but that's just because they're loyal and strong as hell. Don't do anything to intimidate one that you don't know and all they'll do is lick you until you make them stop. There are other breeds of dog that are responsible for way me attacks than Pits - German Sheppards, Dalmations, even Golden Retrievers. Pits have been used like republicans use gay marriage: a distraction to make people scared of something so they'll consume more. Don't buy into it and go adopt a Pit at your local shelter so some ***** doesn't adopt it and turn it bad!
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Easy to say from where you're sitting, typing on your computer, but if someone you loved was mauled by pit bulls, or any other pet, I doubt you'd be so quick to say "don't blame the pit bulls!" Personally, I'd want justice from both the owner and the dogs. If a dog killed my mom? Or my wife? That dog's *****' dead. The owner'd be next.
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No - they are actually a decent breed of dog. They are a type of terrier, and can be pretty cool dogs if raised right. Problem is they don't feel pain, so that makes them "good" for the dog fighters to use.
BTW - leave my cat alone.- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1 Of course they feel pain..Where did you hear that nonsense!? They are no different than any other dog as far as feelings go. It's the people's fault that get the dog for the wrong reasons and abuse it.
- Rodman930, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What should we do with people who feed pet mice to their snakes?
Let's kill them!
/Sarcasm- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 We should educate them that live feeding,no matter WHAT species of mammal it is is is cruel and sadistic...
Sadly enough,snake owners DO feed all sorts of animals and birds live to their snakes without regard to the suffering of the creature involved.
Rats,mice,rabbits,cats, finches, were domesticated to be pets,not food.
Live feeding does not occur in zoos...And the better educated snake keepers also do not live feed.
In England and Australia live feeding is illegal. It may also be here as well,but sadists do it anyway and pet shops, at least in the USA, often encourage it.
So,those of you with a litter of kittens,keep in mind,your kittens going to a good home may be,in reality, going down the gullet of a snake.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 We should educate them that live feeding,no matter WHAT species of mammal it is is is cruel and sadistic...
- jwdarkstar, on 10/10/2007, -5/+71Yeah, but break his arms and legs first.
- Renork, on 10/10/2007, -83/+45Ridiculous, we feed live animals to pets all the time.
http://www.grizzlyrun.com/PetEDU/RAISING_LIVE_FEED ...
There is no difference between feeding a live cat to a pet than there is feeding a live rat to a pet. Or any other feeder animal. Cats being cute is in no way justification for their death to be animal cruelty while a rats death is nothing. Both are commonly kept as pets.
The man should be charged with theft for stealing others property(pet cats) and that is all.- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -16/+20I've have a cat. My college roommate owned a rat.
There is a difference.- OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 10/10/2007, -24/+13Not really. You people are just more attached to cats than rats. If someone fed a parrot to their pet cat, you guys wouldn't be up in arms. ***** cats and hypocritical "animal people".
- jcaino, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3dugg for the sarcasm. right? i mean, that's the only way you make a point.
- BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5***** you.
Cats have evolved along side humans for ten thousand years. When we developed agriculture and began settling down in towns and villages, the difference between a good grain crop and a bad one could mean the difference between life and death. Rodents always possessed a keen ability to turn a good grain crop into a bad one really quick, but the domesticated felines, with their incredibly hunting skills, have helped our ancestors survive and prosper by controlling these rodent populations. The Ancient Egyptians put such a significance to the role that cats played in their survival, that they began to worship them.
When interacting among themselves, cat primarily use body language and scent cues, but they have figured out that humans respond more to vocal cues and so, they try to mimic our speech by meowing, using varying pitches and intonations. Cats are capable of a range of feelings and emotions and when they sleep, they have complex dreams (yes, they have actually MRI'ed sleeping cats). They also have certain senses that we lack, which almost seem supernatural at times. For example, they have an incredibly advanced sense of space and direction, matching that of a GPS device, as well as a keen ability to judge human character (they can instantly "feel" cat-hating assholes and respond accordingly).
By the way, parrots are very intelligent, special animals as well and I would be very much outraged if one was fed to a cat.- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Pigs are smarter than cats. I take it you don't eat pork?
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2But pigs are icky... ;(
- Gir53457, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2I have a pig named Petunia. I love her as much as my cat and dog. I eat pork, but not petunia. Shes not an animal, shes a companion. You don't eat your wife? Do you?
- BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4First of all, the "pigs smarter than dogs" thing is a common myth. Dogs are actually much smarter in the areas that count. Secondly, cats have a long evolutionary history of being trusted companion animals, while pigs have a long evolutionary history of being livestock. They play different roles.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8"You don't eat your wife?"
Only on her birthday...
- OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 10/10/2007, -24/+13Not really. You people are just more attached to cats than rats. If someone fed a parrot to their pet cat, you guys wouldn't be up in arms. ***** cats and hypocritical "animal people".
- hatepirate, on 10/10/2007, -4/+47But don't most people who feed live animals to their pets do so because that's the only way their pets will eat (like snakes in regards to mice)? I mean, the existence of dog food makes it completely unnecessary to take live animals and feed them to your dog. There's a huge difference between feeding live animals to your pet because that's the only way they'll eat and feeding live animals to your pet for no reason other than you enjoy seeing the prey being eaten.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9"But don't most people who feed live animals to their pets do so because that's the only way their pets will eat (like snakes in regards to mice)?"
No. They'll eat dead mice too. And Oscars will eat normal fish food. It's just not as much fun as feeding them live goldfish.- raitchison, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Snakes will often only eat pre-killed rodents (or snaks sausages) if they were brought up to eat pre-killed as babies. I know my two corn snakes (we have had since they were the size of a pencil) will eat pre-killed just fine but we had a red tailed boa ("given" to me by my cousin when he got married) that wouldn't go near anything that wasn't actually moving around.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Get a vibrating feeding tray. I have a bearded dragon that would only eat live crickets until I put it on a vibrating tray. The motion fools them.
Most reptiles I've owned eat dead prey just fine, though. The ones that won't are in the minority.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Get a vibrating feeding tray. I have a bearded dragon that would only eat live crickets until I put it on a vibrating tray. The motion fools them.
- thescimitar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You can actually get your snakes to eat pre-killed if they've not been raised to pretty easily. Both my corns were raised on live prey, but I switched them to frozen; I just make sure the rats are warm, dry, and I use a narrow 48" dowel from the hardware store to make the prey twitch. They made the switch pretty quickly.
- computergod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I usually just dangle the dead rat by the tail and dance it around so the snake thinks it's alive.
Still, live rats are much more fun to watch.
- raitchison, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Snakes will often only eat pre-killed rodents (or snaks sausages) if they were brought up to eat pre-killed as babies. I know my two corn snakes (we have had since they were the size of a pencil) will eat pre-killed just fine but we had a red tailed boa ("given" to me by my cousin when he got married) that wouldn't go near anything that wasn't actually moving around.
- Rikkochet, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17No - I'll jump in here. I worked in a pet store for 7 years to pay my way through school and had a good glimpse of the reptile crowd.
In the entire world, there are maybe 20 people who feed live rodents to their snakes because it's necessary. Sometimes a wild-caught reptile simply will not take thawed or freshly-killed (or even stunned) prey. They just don't get it, and need to kill their own prey and eat it. That's just the way it is.
The rest can either be trained to take dead food, or will willingly do so without coaching or coaxing. Most pet stores stock frozen mice and rats (at various stages of development) in their freezers and they are cheaper than live.
You know how many of my customers actually bought the frozen stuff, or pre-killed/stunned them at home before feeding? A handful, plus the teenagers whose parents had a strong involvement.
The rest bought live mice and rats. Know why? Because seeing a snake kill something is TOTALLY AWESOME! These are the same degenerates that start sentences with the word "*****'" and try to do the goth thing but they're too fat to really pull it off.
There are many responsible herpetoculturists out there that not only keep exotic pets and enjoy them, but also contribute to captive breeding and husbandry research that you simply don't see in labs.
There are many, many more that are just stupid assholes that want to see things die. They're always male and always single (or don't come in with the same girl for very long).
It's pathetic and the argument that feeding live creatures to our pets is "necessary" is a weak argument born of either ignorance/inexperience, or deception to try and make their practices acceptable in the eyes of the public. After 7 years in the trade I still have pets, but when enough people ruin it for the rest of us and there is finally a complete ban on owning all pets, I'll be the first one applauding. (PETA are assholes and I still eat meat - this isn't about animal "rights", it's about animal welfare)- mrNesbitt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Damn, I accidentally dugg you down. (Curse those tiny buttons!) Thanks for the insight!
- computergod, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1They might be cheaper, bu they are gross to handle. Who wants to leave a dead stinky rat out to thaw? They are usually really soggy when you pick them up too, I assume this is because they are killed by drowning.
I'm sorry if you don't like it, but it's fun to watch, just like my own version of a nature show. Also, who brings their girlfriend to a petshop? Don't try to tell me reptile owners are any less social then the people you see buying these types of shirts:
http://www.wildcarnivore.com/Bear_T_Shirts.html
http://bigandtalltshirts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv ... - Gir53457, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The live mice you guys sell are actually poorer nutritional value than the frozen ones. I've kept two rats as pets at one point, an albino and a fancy rat. The albino was always smaller, sickly, mean, and just filthy compared to the fancy rat. The fancy rat was clean, plump, sociable, intelligent and actually made friends with this squirrel that would come up to the window I kept him by.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9"But don't most people who feed live animals to their pets do so because that's the only way their pets will eat (like snakes in regards to mice)?"
- lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -15/+12Well Said!! Here Here!!!
- KevenM, on 10/10/2007, -19/+16As much as I love cats and kittens, you're definitely correct. There is a double standard between 'cute' animals and 'fugly' animals. It sucks ass, but it's a flaw in society I'll live with.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -7/+31A feline is higher on the evolutionary ladder than say a mouse, worm or goldfish. They are also not a normal food source for a canine, and pointless to use them as feed.
- OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 10/10/2007, -20/+9And pet food is a normal food source? No, cats aren't a normal food source for a canine because we don't walk around feeding them cats. We feed them pedigree, purina, etc. but the fact remains that CANINES ARE CARNIVORES. Carnivores eat meat. Cats are meat. Canines can, and will eat cats if that is the only food available.
Or maybe you think cooked cows, chickens, and pigs (ie. left over dinner) are normal food sources for canines.- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Pet food has been formulated to give nutrition. While yes, a carnivore will eat what ever food is available, a lean, fast and defensive creature such as a cat isn't exactly going to be top priority.
As for chickens. cows and pigs... all of them are animals which have been selectivly bread due to their ease of procreation, high nutrient to feed value and ease of cultivation. It is an artificial species created to service man. If we no longer looked to them as a food source, their population would be cut down 95%. Can't exactly term them loose into the wild now can we? - computergod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Chickens exist in the wild, in fact they are nuisance animals in some places.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Pet food has been formulated to give nutrition. While yes, a carnivore will eat what ever food is available, a lean, fast and defensive creature such as a cat isn't exactly going to be top priority.
- Nowheredan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6And you base that on what, exactly? The fact that you think your cat likes you more than someone's pet rat likes him? A larger creature is not necessarily "higher on the evolutionary ladder." Nor is evolution a ladder. Rodents are just as highly evolved as felines, they're just different branches of the same tree.
And, as OMG... pointed out above, a "natural food source" for a canine would be anything they can kill and eat. Remember, these animals are basically domesticated wolves. It's not "pointless" to feed a cat to a dog because the dog can get the same nutritional value out of eating a cat as they can from any other animal they'd eat. It might not be ideal, but neither is a hamburger ideal for YOU to eat.
The reality is that wild animals have been killed and eaten for food every minute of every day for billions of years. What's really ***** up is that this guy was feeding other people's pets to his pets. Some kid's beloved pet cat was ripped limb from limb and eaten for this douchebag's amusement. And for that, he should be held to account (and also compelled to seek mental help, considering torture of small fury animals is, I believe, an indicator of sociopathic behavior).- scrogger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1ok, in that case, let's just kill you and feed you to the dogs as you're just a different branch of the same tree of life.
And yes, a cat does, in general, like his owner more than the rat, because the cat has a more highly evolved brain structure to feel than the rat. Try studying some brain physiology and structure before coming up with inane comments like that.
The point of the article is that this thing - can't think of what else to call him - enjoyed seeing kittens etc being pulled apart and killed. And it does make him worse, because kittens ARE cute and someone who enjoys seeing that must be even sicker, than say, someone enjoying feeding a live goldfish to a piranha or something. - Nowheredan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You obviously didn't read the second paragraph of my post (or you probably wouldn't have restated my argument in yours as though I was disagreeing with it) so I don't know why I bother responding to yours, but the folks at www.animalintelligence.org would beg to differ on your point. "Intelligence" is a difficult thing to define, and certainly not dependent on brain size or even necessarily structure. Look at a whale, for example--their brains are huge and structured not too differently from our own, but they're nowhere near as intelligent as we are.
The simple fact is, humans are self-aware, demonstrably intelligent, and are endowed with legal rights by our system, and it is illegal to kill a human except in cases of self defense. With animals, such as cats and dogs, countless animals are put down and disposed of, not even used for food, simply because there's nowhere to put them. Wild cats and dogs are killed every day as pests. Killing them for food is, in my view, a much better use than simply discarding them. However, it should be done humanely when possible, and in this case it was done in an unnecessary way.
- scrogger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1ok, in that case, let's just kill you and feed you to the dogs as you're just a different branch of the same tree of life.
- OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 10/10/2007, -20/+9And pet food is a normal food source? No, cats aren't a normal food source for a canine because we don't walk around feeding them cats. We feed them pedigree, purina, etc. but the fact remains that CANINES ARE CARNIVORES. Carnivores eat meat. Cats are meat. Canines can, and will eat cats if that is the only food available.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Renork: So, by your logic, there's no difference between eating a cow and eating another human being. They're both mammals, after all.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Eating? No. Killing? Yes.
Supposedly we taste like pork. - Renork, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Eating? No. Killing? Yes."
Exactly.- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Of course that neglects to mention that killing a cat and killing a cow are exactly the same.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Eating? No. Killing? Yes.
- Bagums, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Oh, I wasn't aware you injure feeder animals before you feed them to snakes and other pets.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Nope, the snake does that on it's own when it breaks every bone in the mouse's body while it squeezes the life out of it.
- mcduckov, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Technically correct but people love cats. I love my cat and I'd want to jam a hot poker in both of this guy's eye sockets. Some people like rats/mice but it is a much smaller number. We judge animals based on how much we like them OR how much they are like us.
- mojoel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Then you won't mind if some strangers come up to you & tranquilize you. then cart you off to the zoo & feed you to a lion or toger or other cat then?
- KingGorilla, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4cat's can love?
- MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Most dogs won't eat a cat. They have to be conditioned, usually from a young age, to do that.
But the real crime here is that those were peoples' pets. Someone loved those animals and they were very important. It's much, much worse than stealing property, and the guy deserves an extremely harsh punishment. - raitchison, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Ignoring the whole higher/lower animal issue what this guy did was worse because he was feeding peoples pets to the dogs.
Also, Dogs are omnivorous, like humans it's possible (though difficult) for them to get all their nutrition from a purely meat or plant diet but most of the time they eat both. - rabidsquirrelOG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Renork and others who think like this... There is a distinction. Others have alluded to it. Certain captive animals will only eat live 'prey'. Dogs aren't included in this group. If someone still doesn't understand the distinction after myself and others have pointed it out, I will just say that if I catch someone feeding cats to dogs, after I get through with them, they "might" begin to understand the difference. Animals do not have voice nor really the means to fight back against most human abuse. In this way, humans abusing animals is almost worse than humans abusing other humans (Except, of course, when children or the infirmed are abused). Let this animal loving Marine actually catch someone abusing my animals, others pets, or wild animals. It would take an awful lot of self discipline to keep me from beating the life out of someone if I caught them doing such a thing. I don't condone violence, but if there was ever a good reason for me personally, this would be it. And if I don't get to them, Karma will...
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -16/+20I've have a cat. My college roommate owned a rat.
- blorc, on 10/10/2007, -23/+15And this is why having a CWP and a hand gun is a great idea.
1) There are crazy ***** out there like this guy.
2) You can legally "sort things out" if you catch him in the act.- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14#1 is true, but #2 is not. You cannot use deadly force on someone for stealing your cat. Even brandishing and threatening the person will land you in jail very quickly. Most state laws are very similar -- you may only draw your weapon if the immediate threat of bodily harm to yourself or those around you, who are legally entitled to be in the place where the altercation occurred (ie: you can't rob a store, shoot someone who was going to shoot you and then claim self defense). The definition of bodily harm varies, in most states it must be a battery (closed fist assault) or higher (weapon, or using an animal such as a pitt bull).
As much as I wish I could "sort things out" with people using my sidearm, I cannot. If you actually took a CWP class, you would know this.- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Like you say, it depends entirely on the state. If he's on your property, then whipping out a gun is perfectly legal in Texas.
- mstoneburner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Only after sunset.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Cats were on public property, per the article. Even then, the castle laws only apply to criminals entering a house, occupied vehicle or place of business. Simply pulling a weapon for someone entering your yard (must be legally posted no trespassing first BTW) isn't going to work.
Same as SC, TX is reciprocity. - TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You can't shoot the guy but you can shoot the dogs.
- pbaehr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9In New York (Nassau County) you're allowed to use deadly physical force to protect your property, not just against the threat of bodily harm. Kittens are property.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'd hate to try and argue that in court. Remember, any time a firearm is used, you will be arrested regardless of the circumstances. The DA chooses if there is anything to peruse a case on.
- pbaehr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@theworldisflat: I don't think that's actually true...but I will add that even if you are not breaking any laws you can still be brought to civil trial if the family decides to file a lawsuit against you.
- blorc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You're right. I should have made a more clear and less sarcastic response.
Let me put it this way. He was committing a felony (aggravated cruelty to animals). You would have a right to stop him in the process if you caught him. Now, you're right in the sense that you couldn't go in guns blazing just because he was doing it, but you would not be illegally displaying your weapon if you drew it to stop him in the act of a felony.
If he attempted to sic the dog on you or the dog came at you, you would be able to legally kill the dog and potentially him depending on the situation (as you pointed out).
I probably shouldn't have used the phrase "sort it out" and instead responded more specifically.- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, you have no legal recourse to "stop" this individual from what you PERCEIVE as illegal or a felony. You cannot simply pull your weapon to hold someone, unless they are 1) assaulting another individual 2) threating to harm the masses (ie: has a bomb or gun) or 3) actively trying to take possession of your property. Your only choice of action is to inform a law enforcement officer of the situation and let them sort it out.
Now, if you confronted the person (w/o a weapon being drawn), he became hostile and assaulted you, then by all means... use what ever force you deem necessary. However, as always, you will be arrested and possibly charged with a crime depending on the circumstances around the events. With todays climate, getting judged by 12 is a risky business..... but it beats being carried by 6.- Gir53457, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'll take the assault and battery charges over letting a poor cat suffer.
- blorc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@theworldisflat
Sorry, it won't let me reply nested that deeply. Conceded again. Your knowledge is clearly more specific than mine. I've been reading a book on these laws, but obviously I need to read them over more specifically again. I appreciate your insight. Just curious, where are you from?
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, you have no legal recourse to "stop" this individual from what you PERCEIVE as illegal or a felony. You cannot simply pull your weapon to hold someone, unless they are 1) assaulting another individual 2) threating to harm the masses (ie: has a bomb or gun) or 3) actively trying to take possession of your property. Your only choice of action is to inform a law enforcement officer of the situation and let them sort it out.
- zweben, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Legality would not exactly concern me if I caught him.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Just remember to hide the body well then, and always remember to keep your mouth shut at all times ;)
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'd totaly go to jail and leave my wife and kids without a breadwinner for my cat. It's the only pussy I get now that I'm married.
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What if you thought the pit bulls were going to attack you, when they were done with the cats?
("He was comin' right fer us!")
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Like you say, it depends entirely on the state. If he's on your property, then whipping out a gun is perfectly legal in Texas.
- meruru, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2And that is why people are resistant to CWP laws and gun ownership in general
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Better idea is triple-S.
Shoot.
Shovel.
Shut Up.
Or even better and more painful to the target:
Sue.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14#1 is true, but #2 is not. You cannot use deadly force on someone for stealing your cat. Even brandishing and threatening the person will land you in jail very quickly. Most state laws are very similar -- you may only draw your weapon if the immediate threat of bodily harm to yourself or those around you, who are legally entitled to be in the place where the altercation occurred (ie: you can't rob a store, shoot someone who was going to shoot you and then claim self defense). The definition of bodily harm varies, in most states it must be a battery (closed fist assault) or higher (weapon, or using an animal such as a pitt bull).
- lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -29/+5fta:
"investigators serving a search warrant on his house found guns and two pounds of marijuana, Bourbonnais said. He has been jailed since then."
I this bit interesting. Marijuana and guns.
as if Marijuana = Guns.
I know they are both illegal. But can't you just see the irony?
***** the war on drugs.
It's an imaginary war with an imaginary enemy.
back in the seventies we used to say "Drugs are for those who can't deal with reality", and "Reality is for those who can't deal with drugs".
Today it should be "The war on drugs is for those who can't face reality".
Kind of an inverted back step.- Roger, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Are you high right now?
- st23am, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Ok .. one prob Both arint Illegal. Guns are Legal ... Maybe this guy had obtained them illegally ( gee shocker crimnals doing something ... criminal) however guns them selves are not illegal. Marijuana is.
- Roger, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Are you high right now?
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -19/+8This isn't a discussion about drugs cheach. Calm down and have some funyons.
Back on topic...- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Cheach? Why not call it reefer and complete the effect?
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Actually, should have been cheech... but close enough. Lemme ask ya (and the other diggers) ... did you even bother to real lnf69's drug-induced rant, or did you just decide I was being random?
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I read it. I just thought yours was more worthy of ridicule.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Actually, should have been cheech... but close enough. Lemme ask ya (and the other diggers) ... did you even bother to real lnf69's drug-induced rant, or did you just decide I was being random?
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Cheach? Why not call it reefer and complete the effect?
- SilentJay74, on 10/10/2007, -3/+43What a douche bag.
- Dysanovic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1He should be injured and fed to his pit bulls. I bet his dogs are so wild they'd eat him.
- 3lijah, on 10/10/2007, -23/+74I'm in your pit bulls..
- yfguitarist, on 10/10/2007, -30/+2Dugg for Icanhascheezburger reference.
- SpectralSounds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Keep us updated on everything else you digg, because the public needs to know.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -1/+8Dugg for the ruthless smackdown.
- HayString, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2oh, is that where that saying comes from?
/sarcasm - mlostracco, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2For some reason, people feel the urge to announce to everyone that the got the joke ("Dugg for ________ reference!"), which kinda therefore ruins the whole reference anyway.
- SpectralSounds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Keep us updated on everything else you digg, because the public needs to know.
- vileS, on 10/23/2007, -9/+55IM IN UR PITBULLZ
BEIN DIGESTED- raitchison, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3If there were a hell I'd be going to it for laughing at that.
- Unlgued, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I hate you, but I dugg you.
- riskybeats, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Sick but funny enough to work.
- richter, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Agreed, i find this disgusting but it got a giggle out of me.
- yfguitarist, on 10/10/2007, -30/+2Dugg for Icanhascheezburger reference.
- dracostimpy, on 10/10/2007, -19/+4Aha! An excellent opportunity for me to link one of the photos I just saved in the new profile section:
http://www.digg.com/users/dracostimpy/gallery/3533 ...- eecrown, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Except that noone can see them, duh.
- rogersj3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Ermm - might want to unprivate it first, mate.
- dracostimpy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Hrm... good point. How bout now?
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Nope, you're still a douche. Sorry.
- Ecco2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Akaji, you're just a ***** idiot. His image was actually rather funny. Go get a life, dude
- Ecco2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Akaji, you're just a ***** idiot. His image was actually rather funny. Go get a life, dude
- dracostimpy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Oh noes... my kitty started a flamewar! Let's see if I have a pic that expresses my remorse for this unfortunate turn of events:
http://www.digg.com/users/dracostimpy/gallery/3533 ...- dracostimpy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Oops, it appears I screwed up again... rough day...
http://www.digg.com/users/dracostimpy/gallery/3533 ...
- dracostimpy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Oops, it appears I screwed up again... rough day...
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Nope, you're still a douche. Sorry.
- mydigga, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6Every time a politician lies, a kitten is murdered.
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11That is unlikely, because there are still kittens.
- dagnabbit, on 10/10/2007, -6/+50Sick *****.
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -22/+37god damn im sick of these people he should get murder charges not agravated cruelty to animals
- Oakes, on 10/10/2007, -8/+7Is it murder when I shoot a buck during hunting season? Which animals get rights, and which rights do they get?
I'm not saying that feeding kittens to a dog is morally equivalent to hunting, but you have to be consistent.- matthewaaron, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4WTF man... that's the dumbest argument I've heard all day...
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1When you hunt deer, do you wound their babies and drag them to a pack of wild dogs to rip them apart while you laugh and take photos? I'd like to think that most hunters shoot to kill quickly, and not to torture and abuse over a slow death.
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Murder is the killing of a human being. Homicide. Killing a pet cat is messed up but get the ***** over it. It's not like it was your sister.
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm gonna kill your pets and tell you to *****' get over it. Then I'll trash your home and all your stuff and tell you to *****' get over it, 'cause, hey, it ain't like murder or nothing.
- illuzionmod, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0in Korea people eat dogs and cats every. Why dont you take your soapbox over there and arrest all of them?
Worthless.- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If you remember your geography and sociology, you'd know that Korea and the U.S. are two different places. In some countries, the age of sexual consent is 9. Does that make it cool? Does that make being outraged at pedophiles "worthless"?
- Oakes, on 10/10/2007, -8/+7Is it murder when I shoot a buck during hunting season? Which animals get rights, and which rights do they get?
- asdfblah, on 10/10/2007, -3/+42Here's the mother *****: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=us ...
- yfguitarist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22"Mood: Guilty"
- stronglikedan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17"Mood: Guilty". That's awesome. That dude looks like such a pussy.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23My message to Tye: "Have fun being used as a party favor by larger inmates you sick *****."
- homerj14, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3i dont own a myspace but please send him a message on behalf of me saying enjoy your stay in prison *****
- Christbait, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Mood: Guilty
SO IT ***** SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!
- JJsays, on 10/10/2007, -35/+4So ***** what! He is an *****, you going to lock him up for that?
- Rikkochet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Why is it that when I block people their stupid comments are STILL part of the page? Damn it Digg, you had it right before!
- digguerre, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1No ***** the last thing I want to read are this *****'s comments.
- whatthefu, on 10/10/2007, -3/+34Neighborhood cats and kittens? That's ***** terrible.
- jbmercha, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Ya, I breed my own for feed, that's much better.
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You must be a sick, fat *****' loser to breed and eat cats.
- MikedaSnipe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I disagree. People are pissed off because the dogs ate cats. You shouldn't be pissed off, that happens ALL THE TIME. Cat = meat fool.
I think its Fine the dogs ate animals. Who gives.
It disgusts me that think he took other peoples animals. That can provoke the same reaction as a human family member being eaten.
I think he's insane to like watching things being killed. But you don't see the same thing with snakes/mice, which is just as sick in that regard. So i think its unfair to specifically say this is wrong because a cat is quite domesticized. to put it in one sentence; to feed his animal cats (WHY?), and watch them (sicko), and know somewhere someones crying that mr.fluffy didn't come home (lock him), it just amazes me.
Although again, i would like to reinforce how much i really don't think killing a cat deserves this reaction. Its just killing something for fun, the kid with the magnifing glass thats creepy. And in my opinion he didn't take it to much more of an exteme (there was more gore with the cat?).
- jbmercha, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Ya, I breed my own for feed, that's much better.
- Adgeman, on 10/10/2007, -7/+25Hopefully he will die in an exceptionally painful circumstances. What makes someone such vile person?
- krabat, on 10/10/2007, -3/+31I lose all rationality when dealing with psychotic ***** like this that do things to animals. I guess that's why I'm not in law enforcement.
- usrlocalbin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Well that would be a lot better than what our current law enforcement does.
They go crazy when dealing with normal people. Tasering, beating, etc.
I would love to hear about cops going completely ***** ape ***** on people like this though.
"Todays headline: Cops beat man to a pulp, taser his bloody body, and spray his wounds with pepper spray after finding out that he abuses and kills innocent kittehs"- satx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I would gain a whole new respect for cops if they did this regularly. I'm serious.
- usrlocalbin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Well that would be a lot better than what our current law enforcement does.
- brutusx, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Better put on that asbestos jacket you sick piece of *****! Sometimes I wish there really was a hell.
- deleeter, on 10/10/2007, -12/+0sounds like he's been watching too many cartoons
- negativefx, on 10/10/2007, -37/+5This guy is my new hero.
- PwnisherX, on 10/10/2007, -19/+5Metal.
- rogersj3, on 10/10/2007, -27/+4Is it really cruelty to animals or nature at work? In the wild, no one would have a problem with a wolf eating a mountain lion cub; not that I think that the guy is a saint, mind you. I just think it's a little bizzare to get upset about animals eating each other.
- krabat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"Hilmo would capture and injure neighborhood cats for this purpose."
Nature at work.- zjordan04, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Because humans aren't a part of nature.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1So you'd be OK with him letting the dogs do the hunting?
- pilot3033, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5yeah, but in the wild nobody pre-injures the lion cubs. And usually, the mountain lion mother is nearby to fend off such attacks
- Sandnor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6No, I think you will find it is cruelty. He injured the cats before giving them to the dogs which kind of negates the whole 'It's how Nature Works!" argument. Now if the cats just happened to wander in and get mauled, you might have some footing for that argument. But give he was capturing, injuring, and then giving them to the dogs.... well that just makes him a sick f&^k.
- jbox1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's not about animals eating each other - It's about a man capturing and injuring defenseless kittens to feed to his pit bulls and getting pleasure out of it! See this from the story:
"Authorities found the bodies of two kittens near Hilmo's residence. Bourbonnais said they also found a gruesome image on Hilmo's cell phone: a picture of one of his pit bulls and one of the mauled, dead kittens, and beneath picture a caption that says "Good Dog.""
Hardly nature at work! - MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's hard to fault wild animals for eating something they killed in the woods, but this is different. Some sick ***** was capturing pets (which are nearly as important as children to some people), harming them himself, and then feeding them to a dog just to watch them get torn up. It's absolutely disgusting.
- krabat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"Hilmo would capture and injure neighborhood cats for this purpose."
- negativefx, on 10/10/2007, -21/+6Pics or it didn't happen
- Frei, on 10/10/2007, -3/+37Please don't overlook "Hilmo would capture and injure neighborhood cats for this purpose."
So he hunted cats to "feed" to an abused starving dog. He's a sick *****. - eaglejim2003, on 10/10/2007, -12/+4Insert Michael Vick comment here............
- deleo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+41I hope he gets raped in prison
- octophobic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6By an angry kitten.
- mseneschal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2with no lube
- octophobic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6By an angry kitten.
- Uhhh, on 10/10/2007, -10/+25Georgia. Go figure...
- nat35, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2I love how ignorant comments get dugg up here, as long as they are aimed at a group of people it is still somehow acceptable to aim them at.
- derf2973, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0I agree ignorant people who stereotype should be fed to pit bulls, hmmmm I grew up in Lawrenceville , that gives me an idea.
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You must be from Georgia. How many defenseless baby animals have you tortured and given a slow, painful death?
- derf2973, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0I agree ignorant people who stereotype should be fed to pit bulls, hmmmm I grew up in Lawrenceville , that gives me an idea.
- nat35, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2I love how ignorant comments get dugg up here, as long as they are aimed at a group of people it is still somehow acceptable to aim them at.
- JRHodes88, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1I was expecting Michael Vick's cousin
- plizard, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5is he friends with michael vick?
- zjordan04, on 10/10/2007, -28/+6Ok, I know this story is sad, and I'm sure I will probably get people jumping on my ass for saying this, but...
Animals eating animals! Oh no!- zjordan04, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1I know, I know... I feel bad already.
- usrlocalbin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9It's not animals eating animals you ***** tool.
It's someone abusing and basically torturing innocent animals for his own enjoyment.
I hope to god you don't own any pets.- zjordan04, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I'm not sure why this story brought out the troll in me haha. Truthfully I think it's sick, and the man should definitely get some jail time . I was just seeing so many similar comments I thought I'd throw something else into the mix. Sorry.
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I hope you get tossed in jail with him, so he can rape you nightly, torture you, and make you die slowly.
Heh heh, not sure why your response brought out the troll in me. Just thought I'd throw something else into the mix. Sorry.
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I hope you get tossed in jail with him, so he can rape you nightly, torture you, and make you die slowly.
- zjordan04, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I'm not sure why this story brought out the troll in me haha. Truthfully I think it's sick, and the man should definitely get some jail time . I was just seeing so many similar comments I thought I'd throw something else into the mix. Sorry.
- ncapone, on 10/10/2007, -17/+9Om nom nom nom nom
- nutzngum, on 10/10/2007, -4/+40i recently adopted two kittens and the *thought* of something like that being done to them simultaneously brings tears to my eyes and a desire to unleash an unholy amount of violence on his ass.
He *injures* the cats/kittens first? I'm almost speachless - just when you think you've seen the lowest form of inhumanity, some vile piece of trash comes along and does something like this.- Nowheredan, on 10/10/2007, -11/+4You're aware we've all see people who injure and then murder other PEOPLE, right? Sometimes children, and even infants? I think they rank lower on the "form of inhumanity" scale than a guy who feeds cats to dogs, don't you?
- FortyCaliber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16No.
Most serial killers test their abilities on animals before moving to people. This guy is one in the same. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up feeding a neighborhood child to a dog.- Nowheredan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Granted, but I'm going to go ahead and not judge him on actions he hasn't taken yet, and until he does something along those lines, Timothy McVeigh still wins for blowing up a building with a daycare center in it. I will, however, get right behind compelling this douchebag to seek psychiatric help before he does something that WOULD put him on the lowest rung of humanity.
- rabidsquirrelOG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Uh, how is Nutzngum's anger regarding how someone abused animals mean that he condones human on human abuse? Human on Human abuse is usually prosecuted at some point. Human on Animal abuse often goes unpunished. That being said, let this POS abuse someone I know or any animal. He's gonna get it either way... ;=
- lharrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You know, Nowheredan, this article is about a guy torturing and killing KITTENS, not people.
But don't worry, if it were you being brutally killed, we'd post comments about you, too.
- FortyCaliber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16No.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 He's most likely just practicing before he moves on up to something more interesting...Humans.
- Nowheredan, on 10/10/2007, -11/+4You're aware we've all see people who injure and then murder other PEOPLE, right? Sometimes children, and even infants? I think they rank lower on the "form of inhumanity" scale than a guy who feeds cats to dogs, don't you?
- lonedog80, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2Anyone else suddenly remember the scene from American Physco with the ATM?
- jger82, on 10/10/2007, -18/+10God I hate the south.
- Walkboss, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13God, I hate sweeping generalizations.
- jimmy72, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Thanks for blaming the south for the actions of a nutcase.
- damnmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Is the south the 'wrong side of the tracks' now? Don't be an idiot. Being a sick ***** has no region or nation for that matter. I live in the south and we have no more tolerance for trash like this than those of you in the north.
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6God I hate people who generalize.
Signed,
Everyone
- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11Hang this man.
- zeero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1after this i dont think he's a man anymore, even animals wouldnt do something like this
- IIIKrazyKiDDIII, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6Feed him to a Rancor first and then arrest him.
- octophobic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1How is what he did different from Jabba feeding humans to his Rancor? That sick Hut!
- davidmcraney, on 10/10/2007, -25/+9I'm confident at this point 78 percent of Digg readers are infested with toxplasma gondii. This guy's actions certainly do no illicit the sort of rage usually reserved for baby rapers. Enjoy your mind-altering parasites you anthropromorphizing *****.
- jdbeast00, on 10/10/2007, -10/+2its a conspiracy. PETA? ***** off my digg.
- damnmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Wow, big words for such a small mind! *hug* There, you seem like you needed that.
- DJTrapezoid, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0Ugh
- satx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Anthromorphism" is just some people's excuse for treating animals like *****.
- theNazz, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16Flush this piece of human ***** down the toilet.
- iamthanos, on 10/10/2007, -11/+8same concept of feeding mice and rats to pet snakes, don't really care but animal activists could ban feeder fish and locusts if the charges aren't properly "served"
- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2You know why mommy and daddy told you not to play in busy traffic? It's because they wanted all the fun for themselves.
- FortyCaliber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Not quite... see, snakes eat mice and fish eat fish naturally. A kitten isn't a natural source of food for a domesticated dog. It's not the same thing.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 Sure it is...Just because snakes eat rodents you don't feed them live to them.
Dogs,cats,and ferrets eat rodents, rabbits and birds live,but you don't see these species being fed bunnies,chicks,rats and mice live...But somehow it's ok to do the same thing if the creature is a snake? I disagree.
yet snake owners not only do this,they brag about it by showing the horrific acts on You Tube.
If a wild dog found a kitten,do you think it would not eat it? Sure it would,in a heartbeat.
You don't see zoos feeding snakes live rats, piglets, chickens and rabbits and watching them scream in terror as they are stalked and slowly strangled to death...
Live feeding is barbaric...The fact that this story got such a response confirms it.
What I don't understand is why some domesticated animals (cats) are more deserving of compassion than other domesticated pets:,Rats,mice,hamsters,Guinea pigs,rabbits.
What's proper treatment for one domesticated pet should be proper treatment for ALL domesticated pets.
And ALL snakes can be weaned off live food...Zoos do it all the time.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 Sure it is...Just because snakes eat rodents you don't feed them live to them.
- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2You know why mommy and daddy told you not to play in busy traffic? It's because they wanted all the fun for themselves.
- Diamndzngunz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8I found his myspace. Make sure you send him a friendly message. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=us ...
- EllisAshbrook, on 10/10/2007, -12/+6he's from the south! whoopie would not blame the guy, it's part of the culture! lolz
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Lack of punctuation and sentence structure musty be part of yours. Congrats.
- jdbeast00, on 10/10/2007, -15/+9Am I the only one here that thinks this whole cruelty to animals thing is a big joke? WTF do you guys think happens to the animals that you eat? You think chicken coops are like summer vacation spots for the chickens? Who cares that in our society cats are often kept as pets? What if I have pet chickens...? Can I arrest you for eating at popeyes?
- upenox, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5This is why I em....don't eat meat.
- Acglaphotis, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6For every meal with meat you don't eat im gonna eat THREE!
- upenox, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Real proud of ya.
- Acglaphotis, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1For every meal with meat you don't eat im gonna eat THREE!
- raitchison, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The correct term is "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three"
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sp ...
- raitchison, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The correct term is "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three"
- Acglaphotis, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6For every meal with meat you don't eat im gonna eat THREE!
- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8There's no ***** point in feeding a dog (or any other animal) kittens, you ***** Leonardo da Vinci.
There is already made food for dogs...such as packaged dog food. Not to mention, some of those cats and kittens were other peoples pets. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't taking something that doesn't belong to you called...stealing? How would you like it if someone stole something you love, only to use it food for something else?- jdbeast00, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2There is no ***** point in feeding you a chicken. you ***** Michangelo.
There is already food made for people, such as packaged people food.- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Being that I am vegetarian, you're right. I there is no need to feed me chickens or any other meat for that matter, to me.
- FortyCaliber, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2There is packaged people food... it's called boneless chicken breast, I find it in the deli department of my local grocer.
- takamalak, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1You have to be the dumbest ***** in the state you live in. Not the world, mind you. Just your state.
- luckykpolice, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1It's just outsourcing the cruelty buying prepackaged food.
- jdbeast00, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2There is no ***** point in feeding you a chicken. you ***** Michangelo.
- kiwiboyus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I don't eat animals. And I would take a f**king metal bat to this piece of *****.
- DDION, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Ya because we injure the ***** animals and them slowly kill them - just like fast food. People who think animals deserve to be treated that way deserve to die - not get hurt - DIE. Cruelty to animals is not a joke you ***** inbred tool.
- luckykpolice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Then I am assuming you also don't eat chicken, pork, beef, or drink milk? Since you know, there is a lot of cruelty to those animals going on, especially from the larger groups in the industry.
- SammyJr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2People who care about the farm animals but aren't crazy enough to go Vegan eat organic, free range animals. That's good some good meats.
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, livestock is killed as quickly and painlessly as possible, usually by penetrating the brain with a bullet or pneumatic spike. By the time the pain registers, the lights are out anyway.
The key to cruelty is causing extra pain and suffering than necessary to kill the animal. Or messing with kittens or puppies. We like those ones.
- upenox, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5This is why I em....don't eat meat.
- RioGangsta, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9I'd like to beat him up and feed him to gorillas
- mstoneburner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Gorillas are vegetarians.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1No, they're not. Those fangs are there for a purpose.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 Sleeping during biology class again?
http://www.colszoo.org/animalareas/aforest/gorilla ...
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/gor ...
http://www.seaworld.org/infobooks/Gorilla/dietgor. ...
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 Sleeping during biology class again?
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1No, they're not. Those fangs are there for a purpose.
- kooft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4As much as what he did angers me, the law needs to address his actions. I believe that he is exhibiting signs of psychotic behavior not unlike Jeffery Dahmer and could very well be a danger to society. He needs to be placed under observation in a mental health facility for quite a while.
However, if you are intent on imposing an eye-for-eye punishment on this guy, you would want to forgo the gorillas and throw him in a cage with a hungry tiger. Keep in mind that the costs may make this prohibitive as the tiger would require large quantities of mouthwash to get the taste of this piece of ***** out of his mouth.
- mstoneburner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Gorillas are vegetarians.
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23On behalf of cat lovers everywhere....can we get his address?
- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Also, can we get a list of his fears?
- kooft, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I guarantee you one of his fears is walking next to WaterDragon while passing the tiger exhibit at the local zoo.
- KingGorilla, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1someone posted his myspace!
- qx4_man, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2According to whitepages.com, I'm guessing the sick ***** lives at one of these locations:
Hilmo, Shannon & Matthew R
1775 Whitley Rd
Dacula, GA 30019-1501
(770) 513-1099
or
Hilmo, Tim
2912 Drowning Creek Rd
Dacula, GA 30019-1547
(678) 407-9385- fauxREDhead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0haha, nice.
- osko2052, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Can I get your address so I can come eat your cat?
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sure... if you can get past the owner with a gun...
- alexanEmpire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Also, can we get a list of his fears?
- cnycompguy, on 10/10/2007, -18/+5what next, jailing people for feeding mice to snakes?
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Yeah, because those two comparisons are completely equal.
/sarcasm
- theworldisflat, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Yeah, because those two comparisons are completely equal.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -17/+19Read my entire comment before you jump down my throat ... BUT ... I'm surprised that the crime they charged him with, "aggravated cruelty to animals", is a crime in relation to what he did. I mean I feed crickets to my pet scorpion and I don't think that I'm committing a crime. The only difference that I can see between the two is the 'cute' factor. Sure the fact that he stole cats and kittens that weren't his IS CLEARLY a crime, but that isn't what they charged him with....
I'm wondering if anyone knows more information about the law regarding this. Is it illegal to buy a cat from the pet store and/or pound and feed it to something, like a dog, for the purposes of feeding it? Is it illegal to feed a dog live food? Also is that healthy for the dog? I'm assuming that somewhere in their past dogs hunted wild game for food, right?
I'm sure that I sound like a cruel bastard, but we all eat living things to sustain ourselves... plant or animal ... cute or grotesque ... you have to kill things and eat them in order not to die.- crackedplastic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I agree with you (I once had a pet frog many years ago) - however, the circumstances on how the cats were obtained (and what was done to them) prior to the feeding is the objectionable part.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 The difference is how far the creature is on the feeling scale...Mammals do have feeling and know fear and pain...Insects are much further down the evolutionary scale,so a different criteria is used for them.
Live feeding a cricket would not be seen as cruel and barbaric,live feeding a mouse,kitten ,rabbit or rat would be seen as cruel and is never done in zoos.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 The difference is how far the creature is on the feeling scale...Mammals do have feeling and know fear and pain...Insects are much further down the evolutionary scale,so a different criteria is used for them.
- TheRemoteViewer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Purposely capturing and injuring someone's pet to get off on watching your vicious dog kill it is in no way morally equivalent to eating a cheeseburger.
- jimmy72, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Or feeding mice to snakes, crickets to scorpions, babies to neocons. Oh, wait.........
- guinnessstout, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1+1
- krabat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The morality of all that is something to debate, but the point is he was taking other peoples' pet cats off the streets and breaking their legs to feed to his dog. He wasn't going and buying cats for the purpose.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I agree with you whole-heartedly
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 True,but some people do that.
People who raise rabbits,rats,mice and get an accidental litter of kittens have to be very careful that these pets don't end up being fed to snakes live...It does happen...And it's a shame.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 True,but some people do that.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I agree with you whole-heartedly
- Frei, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Even if he was buying them, he'd have to do some sick things to the dog like starvation and torture to get him to eat them. So in no way is what he did acceptable.
- luckykpolice, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1My dog kills and has his way with rabbits and cats if they come around and likes to chew on dead deer parts he finds in the woods... I guess I must be a sick bastard, you know, feeding him pedigree and all...
- somnambualist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Like most things in the criminal law, it is about intent. You aren't feeding the crickets to your scorpion for your own enjoyment. Although, I'll admit watching my Python eat a rat is a pretty impressive sight, I don't do it for recreation. Pythons and scorpions can only eat live prey, as opposed to scavengers like dogs. The only reason this guy did it was because he got his jollys from it. You feeding crickets to a scorpion doesn't indicate that you are a danger to society, this guy is about two minutes from becoming a serial rapist and killer.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That is a very insightful comment ...
However, and here is the interesting part of this whole conversation, you might be the exception to the rule (although I doubt it) ... but most people buy snakes and lizards and (in my case) scorpions to watch them eat ... this is especially true for snakes ... you said it yourself that its an impressive sight ...
People do feed pets like snakes for the enjoyment of watching them eat. Do a search on YouTube, I'm sure that there are a hundred videos of people showing off what their python can do to a rat. There's something in our nature that makes exciting...right? What's the best time to visit the zoo? right?- kooft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1And people enjoy boxing so that means I should have the legal right to beat the crap out of whomever I want?
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 Why is watching your snake eat a live rat impressive? I find it disgusting.
Also,as Ive said elsewhere,snakes can be weaned off live food,as it's sop in zoos.
Live feeding mammals to snakes is barbaric and I do hope someday everyone understands this and stops doing it.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That is a very insightful comment ...
- Coffeedemon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1"The only difference that I can see between the two is the 'cute' factor" Well maybe that and the presence of a nervous system complex enough to register pain. Crickets - even if their stimulus response can be called "pain" are handled relatively humanely by their predators - unlike the way a dog will maul a cat to kill it.
- kwilliam71, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I also think that's an intelligent question. I used to feed rabbits to a snake. Isn't that along the same lines? I like to go fishing too. Peta would tell you I'm a murderer, but I hardly think so. That said, I hate these Pit Bull owners that can't tame their dogs.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 yes it is the same thing. Rabbits are mammals and are wired to know pain,fear and pain the same as a cat is.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1 yes it is the same thing. Rabbits are mammals and are wired to know pain,fear and pain the same as a cat is.
- kooft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Cats aren't pit bull's natural prey that and the fact that there's this stuff called Alpo that dogs seem to love. Don't forget that cats are a higher form of life than a cricket. If we were to use your analogy then it'd be alright to feed babies to pit bulls too. Oh yeah and he wasn't using the cats as a primary food source, he was going out of his way to kill other people's pets just to have a cool screen saver for his phone.
Other than those few small details you're spot on champ.- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Alpo is a dog's natural prey?
Define 'higher form of life'
And I totally agree that what that guy did was completely unacceptable and that he should be punished for it. - kooft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No one said Alpo was prey but it's a completely acceptable source of nutrients for dogs, thus eliminating the need for live cats.
Define higher form of life? Why don't you look up the legal definition under the law that this moron was arrested under? 43 states have felony animal cruelty laws, if you don't like them then you need to vote to change them.
Don't sit here on digg and whine about how you feed aphids to ants and that means you should be able to feed gorillas to tigers. Go out and protest for your rights to kill animals in cruel and inhumane ways.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Alpo is a dog's natural prey?
- apetrie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Since, I'm assuming, you don't torture or injure the crickets, and they do not belong to someone else, the comparison is not valid. Personally I could never get a pet that I'd need to feed another animal to, but I don't see it as a crime.
This guy was capturing neighborhood kittens and HURTING THEM FIRST before feeding them to his dogs. Its not as if the dogs caught and killed a cat, I think everyone would agree that sucks but ***** happens, this guy was being cruel plain and simple.- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I agree with you completely and am attempting to ignore the obvious incriminating details of the event in order to show that at a higher level there is no difference between feeding a cat to a dog and feeding a rat to a snake or a cricket to a scorpion
Not that I want to see kittens being fed to dogs that were trained to be aggressive, or psycho's like that dude thinking that what he did was acceptable.
On the contraire, i'm just playing the devil's advocate to spark some insightful conversation
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I agree with you completely and am attempting to ignore the obvious incriminating details of the event in order to show that at a higher level there is no difference between feeding a cat to a dog and feeding a rat to a snake or a cricket to a scorpion
- mayonnaiseparty, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i get where you're going with that line of thought but: scorpions eat crickets, dogs eat DOG FOOD, not cats. it's totally unnecessary.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I don't agree with your comment. Dogs eat dog food because we domesticated them and made them totally reliant upon us to be fed. If you look at luckypolice's comment a few above you might recall that dogs were wild animals that had to either hunt or scavenge for their food.
- kooft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Hunt or scavenge. In other words, dogs can eat just about anything and survive (e.g., rotting carcasses, live rabbits, berries, canned dog food). So, given that the nutritional requirements of dogs are completely met by canned dog food and only partially by live cats, the only reason to feed a live cat to a dog is because you think it's neat. I'm sure you believe it's your inalienable right to own a great white shark and to feed it elephants.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I don't agree with your comment. Dogs eat dog food because we domesticated them and made them totally reliant upon us to be fed. If you look at luckypolice's comment a few above you might recall that dogs were wild animals that had to either hunt or scavenge for their food.
- curiousgrge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1First of all, cat's aren't insects which is a big distinction. Until you think you can domesticate your scorpion to roam free in your house with its stinger intact, by all means and more power to you. The feeding of crickets to a scorpion is hardly comparable to feeding a cat or kitten to a dog. While you can go to a pet store to buy crickets to feed your scorpion, the same wouldn't hold true if you say you wanted to buy a cat or kitten to feed a dog.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Give me one reason why it's different?
- kooft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Because it's illegal to do that to cats but not illegal to do that to crickets, in 43 states anyway. I think that's reason enough.
- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Give me one reason why it's different?
- coolku, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1TheRemoteViewer: Part to be clarified.
Dogs are "vicious" thanks to this *****'s "training". Dog by itself was likely not "vicious" by nature.- argblat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I understand what you are saying, and agree that in today's day and age, a dog has to be 'trained' to become aggressive. BUT ... I would think that historically speaking it's quite the opposite... that wild dogs were vicious predators that had to be domesticated over a long period of time to be what they are now.
- crackedplastic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I agree with you (I once had a pet frog many years ago) - however, the circumstances on how the cats were obtained (and what was done to them) prior to the feeding is the objectionable part.
- chesscat, on 10/10/2007, -10/+4Further proof that there is no God.
- demiurgency, on 10/21/2007, -1/+1Further proof that there is a God, and he got fed up with our b*lllsh*t and abandoned us years ago.
- FortyCaliber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1God told the puritans that cats were evil...
So I guess it means there IS a God.
- demiurgency, on 10/21/2007, -1/+1Further proof that there is a God, and he got fed up with our b*lllsh*t and abandoned us years ago.
- spasticjedi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37People ask me all the time why I don't let my cats outside. Stories like this are exactly the reason. I would go ***** if someone knowingly hurt my cats. I would be in jail right next to the animal abusing ***** who would dare to lay a hand on them. I hear ***** all the time about people shooting cats, running them over, letting their dogs attack them. Does this somehow go way, way back to the whole "witches familiar" bit from the 1700s? Seriously, I can't understand why people do things like this.
- bdurkin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Maybe it is because they are not pussies like you......just kidding. I would flip out too if my cat was harmed.
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1 The reasons they hurt/kill or capture cats and haul them to the pound are:
Cats coming into their yards and crapping in their gardens and marking their furniture with piss,ripping up their lawn cushions,killing the native wildlife and birds,yowling and fighting at night and waking people up,etc.
In saying this,I;m not excusing that sadistic prick,but i am telling you how annoying free roaming cats are to people.
I had to put a five foot high fence around my veggie garden so cats would not be using it as a toilet.
Free roaming cats also damage wildlife in another way:
http://cats.about.com/cs/parasiticdisease/a/seaott ...
- Waterrat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1 The reasons they hurt/kill or capture cats and haul them to the pound are:
- ncc74656m, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I WOULD kill to protect my cats. These dickless SOBs who feel some urge to hurt innocent animals to make themselves feel all tough.
The Michael Vicks of the world really need to be violently removed from the planet.- Gauthic, on 07/09/2008, -0/+3"I WOULD kill to protect my cats. "
Not just my cats, but my entire household, kids, family, pets, possessions (I'm a Texan, but not a gun-toting Texan ;) ). No need to get emotional about just your animals. Everything that you love and care for in your house should be something you're willing to kill or die for (doing such over a pet is possibly an overreaction), if it were a choice of running over one of my cats or any child if faced with a no choice--either/or-- situation-sorry there's no choice, the cat's gotta go. Unfortunately that may mean one crying child, but I'd rather have a crying child than one in the hospital.
Yes, I believe that the law is doing exactly what is needed in this case, and that's the reason we have these sort of animal protection laws. Let the law do its work, leave a comment on his myspace page--whatever. Don't harass the guy any more than the law will allow. He's caught, and if convicted he'll pay his dues.
- Gauthic, on 07/09/2008, -0/+3"I WOULD kill to protect my cats. "
- nbcaffeine, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Having and loving cats is something that women do, not men. Its acceptable in society to dislike cats. Dogs somehow have the upperhand in our minds.
That said, i would also go "*****" if anyone even mentioned doing something to my 3 ragdolls :)
edit: and I'm a big, manly type man. Don't touch my kitties.- chesscat, on 10/17/2007, -0/+0What a crock. I am man and owned cats for 40 years. And yes, I too probably would kill any ***** who'd hurt my animals.
- bdurkin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Maybe it is because they are not pussies like you......just kidding. I would flip out too if my cat was harmed.
- Cyberbladewolf, on 10/10/2007, -19/+5This is *****. And no, I'm not feeling sorry for the kittens. I'm feeling sorry for the hypocrisy of humanity. "Give him death", "Thats so cruel", etc. So, do you feel the same way about somebody giving mice to a pet snake? How bout feeding goldfish to larger fish or bullfrogs? It's the same damned thing really. Even if the reasons behind each thing are different, it is the same damn thing. Also, i the dog was free roaming on the streets, most likely, injured kittens would make up a portion of its meals.
- qber, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The dog wasn't free roaming on the streets and happening on injured kittens. That wouldn't be news. This guy was capturing and injuring kittens to feed to his dog, not because that's what the dog needed to eat, but because he apparently got off on that kind of thing. There's a difference.
- demiurgency, on 10/21/2007, -1/+5There is a world of difference between a stray dog hunting and killing other animals to survive, which is natural, and some ***** capturing and injuring helpless animals so they can't use their own natural defenses to escape.
Domesticated house pets trust us humans. When we abuse that trust and pull stuff like this, we become the worst kind of monster on the planet. People's outrage at this is not hypocrisy. It's warranted. This story has nothing to do with the food-chain or what happens in the wild.- mseneschal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2RIght on
- Cyberbladewolf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I still don't see this as horrible. He was feeding his dog with cats. I would see it as horrible if he was going around injuring cats for nothing but fun, but the fact is that the cats did get used as food. It's not just pure waste for amusement. If amusement was gained from it it doesn't matter because the creatures weren't wasted.
Plus, on top of this. The same people that feel "sorry" for the eaten kittens, are the same people that scream at the top of their lungs that we have an animal control issue with too many cats wandering our streets. Even more hypocrisy. Nature isn't pretty, and human nature has never been nice. If you honestly believe that either will ever change you need to seek mental help pronto.
Of course if any of you have eaten a hamburger, you're guilty of the same thing. A cow is killed (Can't kill kindly, no matter what you say) then you eat it. Hell, you actually keep them in captivity before killing cows.
But why should I care? A cow is a cow. The same with a cat. A cat is a cat is a cat. I would also have a problem if he was kidnapping cats from homes to feed to his dog as people are attached to those particular cats. But cats of the street? If somebody's attached to that street cat they need to take it off the streets. We make exceptions for animals such as cats and dogs because those are "pet" animals. They're different. We like them? But some people like cows? Does that mean I can't have a hamburger because somebody likes cows?
Animals are animals. Move on.
Edit: Oh, and I know I'm being dugg down, and I don't give a *****. If I wanted to be dugg up I'd just post some cute smart ass remark to the article and be on my merry way.
- Cockslap, on 10/10/2007, -18/+4Wait, chinese people can eat cat but pit bulls can't?!? Dogs gotta eat too.
- ToTiredToCare, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14I say feed him to his pit bulls, Sin City/Marv style...
- Vaytan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Excellent ! I agree with you.
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