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- sarazen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27So um...I'm confused. Are you pissed at China because they have done and continue to do some righteously bad things, or at us the American consumer for ...um bargain shopping?
- thepeacemaker, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26These crooks should be sued big time and forced to pay through their noses. To save a few bucks they get crappy ingredients from China and endanger lives of millions of animals.
- greenjohnsmith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10You forgot that China is also one of the worst polluters as well.
- Arbus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I wonder how many people in China have died from consuming products made with this poison. We'll never know.
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Formaldehyde is still acceptable as a food preservative in many places there.
Anyone dumb enough to think that the only reason american companies shipped all their manufacturing to China was to save a few bucks on hourly wages is just believing what the companies want you to. They're doing it mostly because there is no regulation -- and they're free to do whatever they want to the environment, free to put whatever they want in their products (then lie to the public about it), and free to exploit the poor workers in ways you can't even begin to imagine.
In many ways, things are worse there than they were here before the passage of the food & drug safety act. In the 1920s, while we did have kids falling into meat grinders and formaldehyde used as a preservative, we didn't have all the fun genetically modified, ultra processed, chemical-laden ***** that we've got today. - jivatmanx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Which crooks? It should not surprise anyone that the Chinese companies did this. Similar things happen every day there. It's the FDA that shirked from even their most basic responsibility: protect the integrity of the food supply.
I suppose you should ask all of the evangelists who were hired to oversee the FDA's operations, or perhaps the few competent people, who resigned in protest. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yeah I'm sorry guys. But where are the libertarians on this issue? Everyone wants a safe food supply, but nobody wants to pay for it. The FDA and USDA have had their funding cut over and over since Reagan. They've been declawed and neutered by the dereg kool-aid drinkers.
- Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Source horsesass.org?
- bishsd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You just keep sipping that Kool-Aid, my friend:
Bad food effects unknown
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_505650.html
"That is one thing people are still concerned about -- long-term effects -- and we still don't know the answer to that," said Dr. Wilson Rumbeiha, a pathologist with Michigan State University's Center for Population and Animal Health. - rhabd0mancer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The Globalists/Anarchocapitalists/Randians sure are quiet.
- UtahApocalyse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4In Utah a few farms of Pigs were destroyed last week after it was determined that they had received "possibly" contaminated feed. So why do we import all this crap from out of country and not grow it here? ohh yeah..... money. Well I just hope that the BILLION dollar lawsuit from ANYONE that gets sick from this might convince some type of change.
- gibbwake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If its in the human food supply you wont be told. Just like the rescue workers and tourists in new york were told the air was safe after 9/11. If it costs too much money to resolve you'll never hear about it or hear that its perfectly safe.
- AhmedF, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4A government website?
The same government that hires people to govern what they used to lobby for?
Gimme a break. - stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This would explain why the ham I bought this afternoon had a gluten-free disclaimer on it. WTF! I thought at the time, but now I see why. Good has come out of the melamine scandal though: A lot of people who were ignorant now understand what garbage we were feeding our pets and livestock even before it broke. Though my pet wasn't poisoned, I made substantial upgrades to her diet anyway.
- lohphat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2US regulatory agencies like the FDA and the USDA are setup primarily to protect industry. Consumer advocacy is secondary, if that. Note that the heads of these agencies come from the same industries they are to "regulate".
/this isn't going to affect my ability to aquire bacon is it?
//mmm...bacon
///former farker can you tell? - Independentsam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Who is John Galt? The spin begins rapidly here. Low risk or not, this is definitely a national security issue. The safety of American food we buy could benefit from a Homeland Security investigation. Unfortunately, I have yet to see the words "al quaeda" mentioned (sarcasm). The FDA could benefit from dollars currently being spent to protect us in Iraq. I would agree that there is incompetence and probably corruption in that agency. Thus the question is which poses a greater threat: contaminated food here or Islamic extremists there?
- shannonxj, on 12/26/2007, -0/+1Let me guess, Chinese made pet foods. am i right? good thing i get my pet foods for my pets at http://www.petsupplyonlinestore.com
- toyotaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm fine with them making the ***** I buy at walmart, but leave my food alone!
- consonance, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What the hell is going on in China?!?
- 10001110101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Oh, who is John Galt?!
(satisfied?) - super9xman, on 07/20/2008, -0/+0PetMedsShop.net offers discount pet meds and discount pet supplies. No bad pet food here. http://petmedsshop.net
- MankeyWanker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The free market will correct for this if necessary. If not, saving a buck is obviously worth the lives of many.
- greenjohnsmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Bisphenol A, the plasticizer in plastic...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&tab=wn&q=bisphenol+a&btnG=Search+News - fiver22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It should be pointed out that we have been eating this "melamine-tainted food" for a while now -it's only recently that we've been made aware of the fact that melamine has made it into human consumption.
Health organizations around the world are saying that this consumption is not dangerous, but you, at least, have to start to ask questions about consumables produced in China (or similar places).
Maybe it's time we started buying consumables (by which I mean items we ingest -or feed to animals) that were generated within a few hundred miles of us.
That would be ecologically sound, as well as economical. - eshavm, on 11/03/2008, -0/+0I'm going to join in and say that we have zero bad pet food here either, only the best pet supplies. Therefore, nobody can blame us for any poisoned human food supplies. Period.
http://www.discount-pet-superstore.com/ - AhmedF, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Umm - gluten free is something totally different. Ie - celiac disease.
- psychohistorian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1
You brought McDonalds to China, so they are taking revenge.
Is not as bad as fake egg:
http://consumerist.com/consumer/food/how-to-make-a-counterfeit-egg-china-style-257693.php - zobcat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Go Vegan!
- esquilax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@stonebear: No, your ham had that disclaimer because a lot of store bought raw meat is sprayed with a product that contains wheat gluten in order to make it more glossy. People who are allergic to wheat gluten (like my wife) would be in for a lot of misery if they ate it.
- OwdenBowden, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This this the point where we all band together and just purchase products that are grown and made in the USA (without any imported products / ingredients from other countries).
The fact that we are importing wheat from China when we are a significant exporter of wheat to the world really burns me up. I understand that our government subsidizes (and even requires them to burn crops) some of the farming done in the country but in light of what is going on I think that will need to stop as well so that we can keep the good stuff here.
If you think militant Islam is the problem then you have yet to see what is going to happen to us all when China decides that they want to rule the world. (FYI - in every test we have conducted where anyone was in a war against China - they lose) - NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Man: oh ***** Leroy what are we gonna do with all this poisoned cat food?
Leroy: I know lets feed it to pigs, there not cats
Man: Good idea! - Informativo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I would like for someone to look into the tainted food products wheat gluten, rice protein, and more, getting into the human food chain via processed foods. Cereals, rice milk, soy milk, … As you can probably guess from this list, the direct consumption of the tainted products may have damaging effects on those people who consume a lot of the vegetarian product.
- Yage2006, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2A simple solution ban and destroy all food from china. And any other place that uses this practice.
Sickening just sickening. - OwdenBowden, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I would rather see them sell the consumables than burn them - so I have to agree with you about buying locally.
- stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Interesting creature, Libertarianism. Like the altruistic utopia of Communism, a truly free market is a hot-house flower; it cannot naturally exist in its own right on even a moderate scale. But, as Communism is with Socialism, it is invaluable for it's tempering effect when hybridized with the naturally aggressive Corporatism which would consume the world if left unchecked. When I vote Libertarian, the last thing I want is a completely Libertarian government. But, because it shares the Capitalist root, it is the only thing which can stop the Corporatism that is the world's biggest problem right now.
- ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Is it still safe to eat Lucky Charms? If not, I'm screwed.
- ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3...and eat the contaminated grains directly!
- chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Right behind the US (worst polluters)
- my10cent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1And who should cash in on the law suit? as I understand it it was not exactly a huge secret what they were doing, someone just didnt pay attention.
- djpyro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0its all about population control really... everything seems likes it was "missed" or any accident when really it was suppost to happen...
if we didnt have these "misses"... and another topic, diseases that really can be cured but really arent going to be and kill people everyday...
as humans and our technology isnt that great and we cant find another planet there will always be these "misses"...
population control:
animals
humans
anything livable....
wier the dominant species on this planet we control everything... except the weather...
watch "for your consideration" - dext3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Which jokes would these be?
- slave25637, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3dont forget piracy!
- scubascuba, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2GLOBALIZATTION >>> WHY CAN'T WE MAKE OUR OWN FOOD ??? WE SHOULD NEVER HVE TO DEPEND ON ANOTHER COUNTRY TO PROVIDE US OUR BASIC FOOD !!!! THIS IS ALL SO WRONG !! BRING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA....... GROW OUR OWN FOOD IN AMERICA WHEREWE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THE QUALITY OF THE FOOD !! GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT OTHER FOOD IS TAINTED FROM CHINA SINCE WE GET 99% OF EVERYTHING FROM THERE ANYWAY ...
BOYCOTT CHINA . - McHoffa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0this was my first thought... this wasn't even on purpose and it has gotten all over... imagine how easily this COULD have been a way for terrorists (al quaida/islamic extremist or not) to get at us through the back door... we are busy looking for muslims on planes when you know any terrorist group is not going to try the same tactic twice...
this situation has opened my eyes to how horrible our system is, and mostly because we are looking for everything as cheap as possible... time to grow my own food at home...
/me puts tinfoil hat back on - phroztbyt3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0more and more does our country seem like Britain in V fore Vendetta, wake up and smell the coffee, its BS. The reason there are announcements like this is to do 2 things. Make people scared for themselves and there pets (or everyone they love in some sense)... and to make people out of fear buy organic foods for their pets. So just look at what is happening. I just saw a commercial for "purina's new organic cat food," which will be three times as expensive, have less in the actual bag... And you know what, people will buy it, because they will believe they dont have a choice in the matter. Conspiracies, all of them.
- stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Sure China is mean and ugly. Because of peak oil, 200 years of European/American style industrialization has to be crammed into 50; she can't afford to slow down and do anything right. God help the world when she hits the American debt ceiling at the speed she's going. The fallout will have a lot of people eating their cats and dogs.
- wayne247, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0@stonebear
Gluten is a protein found in wheat, which thousands of people are allergic to (Celiac spruce disease). I myself have to purchase gluten-free food everyday. The fact that your ham is "gluten-free" isn't necessarily a reaction to the supply of crappy ingredients from china, it could just be that your supplier of ham is trying to reach a new market: me.
It could also be a reaction to the problem, i'm not saying the contrary. But as a gluten-free products consumer, I think this is just a coincidence of a manufacturer reaching a different market. - edm1950, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Oh God the Chicago jokes that come to mind.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6damn chinks
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