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- dukeeeey, on 10/10/2007, -4/+37Resist the mark of the beast !
- Fire4Effect, on 10/10/2007, -1/+32"My CPU is a neural net processor; a learning computer."
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28The Manchurian Candidate, anyone? Yeah, yeah, it's just used for tracking and logistics purposes... for now.
- jdenzer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22And what is wrong with just having them fitted to say their dog tags? That way soldiers can take them off when not in battle. Honestly, why the need to implant them permanently? What happens when the soldier no longer serves in the military. Explain that to me. How does that save lives?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19Not starting senseless wars could also save a lot of lives. Just sayin.
- whatthefu, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18While in theory it seems practical, in practice it wouldn't be ethical, nor would any reasonable person give away their rights so others know their "vital statistics." If they force any individual in the military to use these in the future, people better raise hell.
- Easty, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12My big brother Orwell was born in 1984.
- saisumimen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10*is* becoming?
Have you not read a history book?
What do you think Napoleon did with the boatload of money he got from the US in the Louisiana Purchase?
Pretty much every single war ever has been a giant "business transaction". Let us not forget that the CIA assassinated a freakin' POPE because he was pro-communist and the next pope (who was pro-capitalist) was almost killed by the KGB. It's pretty disgusting ***** when you look back at it. - jamesallen74, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I don't care what people say about the Bible, I will not let anyone put a chip in me. They must never get to a point where they require all soldiers, and all citizens to get chipped.
- Jelvik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9These microchips should be outlawed. Yet, since it's the government pushing them through, it's probably not going to happen.
So what are YOU going to do in five years when you get a notice in the mail telling you when your appointment to get an RFID chip implemented into your arm is? - ripitinhalf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I would never allow anybody to put a tracking beacon in me-even if I had to fight to the death. We are humans, not cattle
- jason469, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10So, the game F.E.A.R. wasn't that far fetched after all...:)
- Brianam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9As a soldier in the Army Reserve, I'd whole heartedly resist this. This is a violation of soldiers rights. There has to be a better way than implants. This would set a scary precedent. Love your country, but never trust your government.
I could understand the use of implants in astronauts involved in space exploration though. - saisumimen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Did anyone see the movie "Zeitgeist"? Didn't one of the Rockefellers talk about how they've been wanting to put these in people so that later on they can just "switch off" anti-corporate/activist/terrorist's chips?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12you do know that an implant can be easily programmed to kill you or give you electrical impulses to simulate a heart attack right? dont disobey!
i for one welcome our new american overlords - jeremyduffy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'm not even Christian, but I certainly agree.
- ripitinhalf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8my sentiments exactly
- JonForTheWin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"It's only a $1.6 million study, but there's something about human RFID implants that tends -- quite understandably -- to make people's skin crawl."
And guns too..
If/When RFID implants become mandatory, it's time to get extremely violent. - kurtwinter, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Let me guess, it goes in your right hand, or on your forehead?
- iamlutheran, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6This world is becoming so bloody scary, and it's not even funny anymore.
- iJessicaRabbit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8It would seem like a good idea if it could be shut off and turned on my the human it's inside of. Unfortunately I don't think they work that way. For example, if you have a solider who is a diabetic, having something constantly monitoring your blood sugar levels would be great, but for someone to constantly know where you are; that seems like a huge "against our rights" type of a thing.
- Scheissen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Holy *****. There are actually people like you that think this is a good idea. That's it, we're ruined.
RFID is not good for soldiers. Everything you listed can be put inside a dog tag. Now lets see what advantages the enemy has.
Can track chips.
Can set explosives to go off when an RFID chip is near.
Insurgents chop off the arm that the RFID is implanted in so they can't get tracked. - uberfu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Ha Ha you just did !
- Sarevok9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6In essence what its starting to remind me of (scary enough) is the trailers for MGS4..... war is becoming more of a business transaction then anything else.
- dattaway, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Saw it this morning after boingboing linked to the google video. Most interesting movie yet.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Gattica is quite different from these. With cameras, credit cards, etc you can choose if you want them or not, with Gattica people were either born that way or they werent, it was racism pure and simple, nothing like tracking technology. And last I heard most people in the US are rather against racism.
The big problem would be if these chips become mandatory. - imagineerwannab, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It is already being done.
- jeremyduffy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"to make people's skin crawl."
Funny you should say that. RFID implants have been known to burrow or tunnel around under the skin when exposed to magnetic fields (like those found in an MRI machine). So if you want to forever deny soldiers access to medical technology, by all means, implant them with RFID. - insanebrain, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6implanting chips cool ??? o please wake up
- theelectricafro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Hey I have a great idea why not clone all of the Nazi's from world war 2 and put them in power. At least it will be obvious.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Wasn't any plutonium in Agent Orange either.
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5There are times when you see your friend just take a round from a sniper that "well he's going to die anyway so no point in trying to save him" doesn't cross your mind, its "Oh god... Hang in there!" is the only thing going through your head. In combat not everyone is emotionally detached from everything around them and able to maintain a cool logical mind, and If I ever met a soldier who could let his friend die and not care it would be a sad day to me as to what that said about the state the military.
- madm0nk, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7I was in the army for 6 years and spent well over a year in Iraq, and I'll be damned if I wanted an RFID tag placed on me anywhere, those ***** babysit soldiers enough as it is.
"Those who are willing to sacrifice their liberties in the name of safety, deserve neither liberty or safety."
Ben Franklin - Azuroth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4And how would it monitor blood chemicals from a dog tag?
- Mosatii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Theres no way they'd implant soldiers on a wide scale.
If they do though, I'm in luck. They always give the Marines everything last. :O - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You probably wouldn't know what to do with the tags. Hell, you can't even get grammar and punctuation correct.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -10/+14Actually for the military it is a great idea and I would have wanted it when I was in and here's why:
1. If you get hit docs can tell right away if you need a med-evac chopper. And get on one the way before the rest of your unit can get to you or call it in.
2. If a platoon or squad gets ambushed and takes a lot of wounded, the commander can be notified so he can get supporting units in to you faster than waiting to see if somebody is able to call for help.
3. IFF indicators. Slaved to the future warrior computers, the chip can transmit a friendly indicator -- potentially saving many lives EG Pat Tillman.
4. Troopers in a hazardous environment may be tempted to tough it out. But docs will be alerted to the negative effect on the troop and notify the commander.
This could save a lot of lives. - IsmailOo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4but, what I ask, why in the skin? I mean if its for military use when they are in battle, why not just embed it in the suit or something, seems like people are using battle as a scapegoat to put it in the people for when they are done with the military they can track them
- Phearce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Very ethical position, but utterly hopeless. People have been slowly eroding their own right to privacy for decades. Public video cameras (now with face recognition), cell phones (complete with real-time tracking), credit cards (with back-office profiling), etc. You can get as self-righteous as you like, but technology will continue to advance. The issue is that there is a growing gap between the rate of technological advance and ethical/social/spiritual advance: welcome to Dystopia. Go rent Gattaca and chill.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4dod wants to stick these in brains too, for behavior modicication
they flip a switch and turn you into a killing fiend on pcp
its like that movie jacob's ladder, but using chips. and they can already do it in rats, and the dod plainly says they want to do it in solders
zombie war machines... - mishaco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3wow . talk about the government coming in your backdoor . ouch !
- OwdenBowden, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3IMHO - When you start giving up your rights, Allowing the Government tot take away your rights, ban items (most important is guns and "gun control" ), skirt your rights in the name of Security and safety - then you are destine to lose all control over your life and everything you do and in the process you are giving up any means to fightback and defend yourself. This government has everyone coming and going. They are purposely placing each of us on sides so ad to divide and concur - all with ease. REMEMBER - our founding fathers did not all agree on everything inside the Bill of Rights and Constitution but each of them had the tolerance for another's CHOICE. They respected the fact that what is right for one is not nessecarly right for another but as civilized adults we all have the RIGHT to Do as we see fit in our pursue of Life, Liberty, and Happiness.
What this tells you is that if you don't like Guns or Abortion, or whatever then don't cater to them; but whatever you do - DO NOT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS THAT DO LIKE THEM.
We are a VERY divided country and we are screwed. I will fight to the bitter end before I would even consider being tagged. This is the AMERICAN WAY. - in2deep, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This is too crazy to think about!
- errictshunn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Ok if it is only for Data purposes why do they not just hold the information and get it off of a thumbprint? If it will only be used for medical reasons. They want a chip in you for something and I do not think it is a practical reason. Offer me a chip I stick is right up your ass!!!
- evilregis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I thought porn sites got all the cool stuff first?
- TexasWaterSnake, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6How can anyone possibly think this is reasonable?
Who the hell owns our bodies, US or the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
It's high time for the Federal Government to F*** OFF, get their damn noses out our money, our bodies, our bedrooms, and our affairs. - bundwallah, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5On the other hand. Depending on the seriousness of your wounds, they can decide not to come and get you. Thereby saving resources. From a purely logistical standpoint a wounded soldier eats up a lot more $$ than a dead one and reduces the amount of risky ops that healthy soldier has to go through. Want to win a war? Bankrupt your enemy rather than try to kill as much of their forces as possible. Retrieving and caring for the wounded is very costly. Remember now. I'm talking logistics, not humanity. The right thing to do isn't necessarily the prudent thing to do.
- goffy59, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3hah, so they say.
- jrizzo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Actually, that is how RFID works exactly. Not sure what the hell everyone else is talking about with vitals and bio-hardware.
- jrizzo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You mean "Pentagon Studies?"
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