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- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+159This is a satire right? I can't tell anymore.
- DarkSenay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+121Instead of banning, could we try burning??
- toxicredm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+84Bradbury did jump out of his grave and realized he is still alive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury - tehbishop, on 10/12/2007, -9/+80LOL - I KNEW before I opened it that it'd be in the south ...
- AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+76We learn from the negatives in life just as much as we do with the positives. Parents who shield their children from everything in this world are doing them a disservice. Kind of like Catholics who raise their children ignorant about sex and condoms, and then the children go out and learn it on their own, sans condoms, and end up with babies.
Granted, this school should have considered allowing an opt-out with an alternative, but to request a school outright ban a book over his personal religious beliefs is toeing the line between separation of church and state. He's basically asking the school to show favoritism toward his religion by disallowing anything that could go against it.
Before even thinking about requesting a ban, try reading the book and finding out if it's pointless usage or used in a context with makes it relevant to a moral or something. - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -8/+73***** Diana Verm, that stupid *****. the goddamn language in that ***** book is perfectly ***** fine.
- gothsquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+67Another Christian Book with all sorts of filth, try the Bible.
- martalli, on 10/12/2007, -2/+59It has been a while since I read Fahrenheit 451, but I recall that the main character was hiding Christian writings. He was intrigued by the idea of God, with the government trying to put down any reference to God. This sounds like the sort of book that at least Christians would want in the curriculum.
- JesseJericho, on 10/12/2007, -3/+55*****. Sorry Ray.
- Feanor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55"He said the book's material goes against their religions beliefs"
STFU and get out of a public school then. - JesseJericho, on 10/12/2007, -9/+57Is this really that surprising? The parents and people in question are Christian Americans. The majority of them love the war on terror, support the troops, hate abortion and homosexuals, and have no problem sacrificing liberty for security. Why not start banning books and information? Would it even surprise me if the school complied with this request? Maybe a little... but not much.
Orwell and Bradbury are probably just about ready to jump right out of their graves. - u8myfoood, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42im guessing they never really understood the book... stupid rednecks...
besides the language is not even HALF AS BAD as the language the kids hear at lunch... - NickyBatts, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43Can I get an A-*****-MEN god-*****-dammit????
- sumvans, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Actually this isn't the first time this book has been targeted by book burners...... the irony is amazing......but its why it was written
- audioobsessed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37In the article, the rednect admits to never having read the book, but he ffilpped through it and found items with which he disagreed.
- gothsquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37I'm not sure either, but either these people can't spell or they can't speak in comprehensible sentences. What does this mean "We went them to go after God," Anyone? Really I'm confused.
- Fracture98, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37No wonder he doesn't like books. He doesn't get to read them before his daughter eats them.
- GreenLantern33, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Nope, it's for real.
Now the question becomes, what is real? I can't tell anymore. ;) - Fracture98, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Our English teacher (who I hold in great esteem) handed out a list of books. We were to choose two to read for that quarter. It was the Canadian banned book list. He felt (as I do) if there is one good reason to read a book is that it is banned.
We had one boy complain. The teacher allowed him to sit out the books and write essays on his own time, and offered one-on-one help. No fan fair. No complaint. It was his choice and it was respected.
So few good teachers.
I had one. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27This dad has the right idea. We should really start with Shakespeare next. I bite my thumb at thee!
- QuorumCall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28"It tells me that goose-stepping Nazis like you should try reading books instead of burning them!"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32I'd like to ban his daughter, as her rolls of fat offend me.
I hate religious fanatics - surgen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Huck Finn next? That has already been banned from some schools
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25They might as well ban every other piece of litereature that has "offensive" language in it.
Huck Finn is next. - theImposs1ble, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26todays news in the south:
we dont like dem there books mentionin god
we have the fattest people in the land
not havin a likin to things bcause you dont understand em aint mean we ignorant - shaggtastic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25What's especially sad about this story is that the "references to the Bible" in Fahrenheit 451 are references to the Bible *being preserved* in the face of a totalitatarian government that would see it and its ideas obliterated.
- cowgurlb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24"He and Hines said the request to ban "Fahrenheit 451," a book about book burning, during Banned Books Weeks is a coincidence."
not to mention the amazing use of alliteration - theragu40, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Something very similar to this happened to my aunt, who is head of the English department at a public high school. She was furious. It's really sad when a few ultra-conservative parents ruin the curriculum of an entire department because they narrow-minded and unwilling to see things from other people's perspective. Also, I think it's worth mentioning that the language used in the hallways in the average high school is almost certainly far, far worse than anything in this book.
- JustEvk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24I love this:
"He looked through the book and found the following things wrong with the book: discussion of being drunk, smoking cigarettes, violence, "dirty talk," references to the Bible and using God's name in vain. He said the book's material goes against their religions beliefs."
Anybody want to count all the violence and mayhem in the Bible? - mtgarden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20As a conservative Christian I would like to weigh in on this topic. I understand the father's concern for protecting his child - he is responsible for her development.
But, I must disagree with this choice. I believe in raising children that approach life with critical thinking skills. By highschool, I hope my future children will have the maturity to work through this type of material. There is great value to the book even if I disagree with the use of the language.
The ability to read and learn from books with objectionable content is fundamental to one's ability to relate to life. If I hid from every situation that included content I found objectionable, I couldn't perform my job in computer security. :-) Sorry, I have always found every field in which I've worked and just about every book I have ever read to have objectionable elements at some level. Life is that way. Train your children to think and reason. - admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19he even has a new book coming out on oct 17
- otatop, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Usually rednecks have no problem with the N word.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Even more hilarious - the book she was assigned to read instead was "Ella Minnow Pea," "because it shares common themes with Fahrenheit 451," according the the superintendent.
Here's a review of Ella Minnow Pea: "Conjures up the same mounting tension and repression as 'The Lottery' or 'Farenheit 451'. But Dunn also stirs in a lot of farce and comic relief. A merry romp!" -Literary Journal Starred Review
Great. So maybe if his kids are offended by studing WWII in history class, they can just watch Hogan's Heroes instead. It's far more lighthearted. - koko775, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Your newspeak is out of date. And that's Doubleplusungood, mister.
See you in room 101. - ripismoney, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19What's even worse than reading filthy words is making a huge fuss over nothing. There is plenty of profanity in school hallways. If these guys were good parents, they wouldn't need to worry about the "bad" language used in this book. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you aren't saying it, you aren't doing anything wrong by hearing/reading it.
When will parents learn to shove it and leave the public schools alone... - catholicismwow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21I'll take 'The Penis Mightier' for $400, Alex.
- JonDiggsIt, on 10/12/2007, -13/+28these people should be shot.
- LesterKing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16And hard at work to ensure their children are ignorant too...
- crkbbyx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Why not just take your kids out of school and put them in a locked shed until the world is "clean."
The Unified Christian Society, or NWO is just getting started... I can't wait to see what they do to me :)
***** assclowns. - ProfessorRiffs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Dugg simply because it's quite possibly my favorite book of all time.
- Wsucks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16This sums up the intelligence of the parents, ""It's just all kinds of filth," said Alton Verm, adding that he had not read "Fahrenheit 451."
- pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15remember when we were reading books because of social influence, social impact, and citisism of society or ideas? Well forget that because if the book has bad language, then you cant read it even though its important.
God, the audacity of these people just annoys the hell out of me. So f'ing ignorant and close-minded. They probably were people who never had an english class that taught the importance of such writing (and thus never read the book). Or they might of read it, but didnt understand the symbolism and just got "bad language" out of it.
God, kill me now before people like this take over our country - Wolfghost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16AriaStar,
The school does allow and support alternatives, from the atricle....
Diana Verm and another classmate decided to read an alternative book. They leave the classroom when the class reads or discusses "Fahrenheit 451," she said. The two students were given "Ella Minnow Pea" by Mark Dunn because it shares common themes with "Fahrenheit 451," said Chris Hines, CISD assistant superintendent for secondary education. - coldfusion055, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19This is very double plus bad...
- therandar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14hold me, im scared
- thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Probably thinks the mechanical firefighting dog represents the anti-christ.
- Greyhaven7, on 10/12/2007, -13/+25Since this book is named for the temperature at which paper begins to combust (451 F) is Farenheight 911 named for the temperature at which Michael Moore would burst into flames? Because that would be something to watch...
- chocobomog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Wow, now that is tolerance at its finest.
I read this book as in my 7th grade lit class (also in Texas) and it was great. I think these people are ignorant fools, who by their own admission have not read the book. But to say they need to be shot for voicing their opinion, now that is something that a Big Brother-style government would do. And isn't that what we are trying to avoid? - ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Holy crap, they're serious? Did they even READ the book?
Oh wait, of course they didnt, reading is forbidden. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Henry, don't you see, the PEN Henry, the PEN is mightier than the SWORD!
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