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Palestinian homes demolished without warning

amnesty.org — The Israeli army demolished more homes in Palestinian villages in the occupied West Bank on Tuesday morning. The homes and property of Palestinian families in the villages of Hadidiya, Jiftlik and Furush Beit Dajan, in the Jordan Valley area of the occupied West Bank, were demolished.

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  • stvalentino, on 04/17/2008, -25/+131OMG, Palestinians always have all their properties demolished without any warnings!
    • synystar, on 04/17/2008, -24/+9OMG, So do something about it!
      • wootup, on 04/17/2008, -11/+31Accidentally buried you, you actually make a very good point: we SHOULD be doing something about it.
        For starters, never vote for or donate to a pro-Israeli candidate (this includes McCain, Obama and Hillary).
        Also, boycott Israeli goods and services: http://www.boycottisraeligoods.org/

        ***** the IDF
      • synystar, on 04/17/2008, -2/+11Thanks for the link. No worries, I get accidentally buried almost every time I comment.
    • toppgun, on 04/17/2008, -15/+6video of it happening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHLEm9-0bg
    • Vigacmoe, on 04/17/2008, -8/+13Whatever Israeli do, they will be fine, because USA just needs Israel in the middle east
    • kingcorran, on 04/17/2008, -21/+6Yeah, they do. At least they don't have rockets pouring into their residential areas... that would be worse! Fortunately, no one would EVER do anything like that...
      • ramises, on 04/17/2008, -5/+24Yeah, like Israel didn't just drop rockets on central Gaza TODAY killing 14 civilians, 5 of them children...
        http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/17/africa/17mi ...
        • kingcorran, on 04/17/2008, -17/+7At least Israel goes after military targets. If someone was shooting rockets into my backyard, I'd probably try to take them out too... and if the ownership of my backyard was in dispute, that's still no excuse for throwing rocks at my kids.
      • dirigibleduck, on 04/17/2008, -1/+14Oh, because the rockets are coming from the West Bank now?

        West Bank ≠ Gaza
        • kingcorran, on 04/17/2008, -13/+3Does it really matter? It's still Israel... it's still Palestine.
          • dirigibleduck, on 04/17/2008, -1/+10Last time I checked, Hamas, who launch the rockets, was in control of Gaza, while Fatah, who want to negotiate with Israel, controlled the West Bank. So yeah, it does really matter.
    • dmallymally, on 04/17/2008, -23/+9OH NOES!! i wonder how much notice palestinians give when the blow themselves up in a bus?
      • netant, on 04/17/2008, -3/+4So basically, its acceptable for the government to perpetrate injustice as long as malcontents do so as well? So Israel is nothing more that a bunch of lawless thugs?
        • ParticleMan420, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2now you're getting the idea!
          except both sides are lawless thugs
    • JesusHatesYou, on 04/17/2008, -4/+19Usually it comes in the form of an American-made Sidewinder missile fired into a Palestinian apartment building from an American-made Apache helicopter from 5 miles away. Bulldozers are quite slower and noisier.
      • ParticleMan420, on 04/17/2008, -7/+1too bad the palestinians dont have better allies then.
      • mirunit, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3Sidewinder is anti-air........
    • IslamicScholars, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4More reason to stop already
    • lilricky, on 04/17/2008, -15/+9Without warning?? They gave the squatters 2 weeks to vacate their tent/scrap wood/cardboard city.
      • biotique, on 04/17/2008, -2/+12How generous! Two weeks before the spring cleanup... those evil squatting terrorists.
        • mirunit, on 04/17/2008, -2/+4Alot of times Katusha rockets are fired out of these types of dwellings. If you were in the position of the Israeli government, what would you do?
          • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -2/+4Quit building settlements right up against them?
          • mirunit, on 04/17/2008, -2/+4Have you read the Hamas mission statement lately?

            Look, I found it for you. http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818.htm
            Tell me if that has anything to do with settlements.

            "Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it

            as it had eliminated its predecessors."

            The Imam and Martyr Hassan al-Banna(5)

            May Allah Pity his Soul
      • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -3/+6And as soon as they try to "live" somewhere else, they'll be chased out with bulldozers too.

        The endless expansion of "buffer zones" and "settlements" has to stop.
    • grhomepage, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4all your properties are belong to us
    • pitlord, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2This article is dated MARCH 11, 2008!
      >.>
      I guess when you don't have any bad news about Israel you can just recycle old stories.
      • LadyKofNYC, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1One month hardly makes this story "old" especially for people who are hearing about it for the first time. But you don't really have an issue with this story being "old", do you. Your issue is with people hearning about it.
  • cashman57, on 04/17/2008, -73/+44According to the article the people built those homes knowing that the Israeli military had demolished homes there before. There must have been some warning because nobody was in the houses that were demolished. I think there is more to the story. It is sad that they lost their homes and much of their belongings but it appears from the article that this has happened in this area many times before.
    • netuserx, on 04/17/2008, -18/+55I feel that you mean that they have to don't build houses in their country because they know that israeli military are going to demolish the houses .. then where do you suggest for these people to live ? you going to invite them ?
      • ParticleMan420, on 04/17/2008, -5/+3what about any of the bordering Muslim countries?
        oh yea, they dont want them either, they just want to use them as propaganda tools against Israel, like this story!
        • netuserx, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Well i prefer when somebody don't know something at least should not talk about it !
          Palestinians lives in the majority of Islamic countries and fine ! but they have to stay there because it's their land !!!!
    • Kizilbash, on 04/17/2008, -18/+52Yes, they do this all the time, does that make it any better? IMO it makes it much worse.
      Check out this site http://www.icahd.org/eng/ it is an Israeli group dedicated to rebuilding demolished Palestinian homes in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. They have figures on how few times Palestinians get permission to build homes.
    • brendonla, on 04/17/2008, -11/+29And of course, that makes it OK for IDF or any other Israelis to come along and destroy their homes. *sarcasm intended*
    • sentime, on 04/17/2008, -7/+23oh so since they did it before that makes it ok .. I feel so relieved

      douchebag
    • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -4/+20so if someone got shot walking down a certain block before, it's the victims fault if they get shot walking down the same block?
    • NighthawkBlack, on 04/17/2008, -4/+12"According to the article the people built those homes knowing that the Israeli military had demolished homes there before.."

      So by your logic, previous illegal acts justify the current illegal acts.

      "It is sad that they lost their homes and much of their belongings but it appears from the article that this has happened in this area many times before."

      Spare us your fake compassion you shallow little twit.
    • pitlord, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2This article is dated MARCH 11, 2008!

      >.>

      I guess when you don't have any bad news about Israel you can just recycle old stories.
      • Kizilbash, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3Oh, there's plenty of bad stuff happening right now. How about a dozen or so people getting bombed yesterday, half of them children, one of them a Reuters photographer and two of them bystanders who happened to be near him...
        • eatzyklonb, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1And the hospital the IDF just shelled AT DAWN. Thanks, IDF! I guess you're going to claim terrorists were launching Quassams from the intensive care unit. Or perhaps it was a targeting error. The hospital LOOKED like a Palestinian house, right? You stinking cowards. A hospital. At dawn.

          http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m43120&hd=&size=1&l=e
  • TrevaLVF, on 04/17/2008, -20/+101Still fanning the flames of war...
    • cheeseron, on 04/17/2008, -6/+37exactly. then they wonder why there are terrorists.
    • davbmn68, on 04/17/2008, -25/+3Who attacked who in '67? This is the same argument used against anybody fighting terrorism. It's old...it's a lie...and nobody's buying that crap any more.
    • doub1, on 04/17/2008, -9/+0Considering both sides have been heaping gasoline onto this fire for a hundred years, accusing someone of fanning the flames is really kind of silly.
    • ZenMojo, on 04/17/2008, -6/+2Unfair! What about all of the Israeli homes the Palestinians bulldozed! I demand Amnesty investigate those reports before making a judgment.^
      • jyac, on 04/17/2008, -3/+0sorry, amnesty is too busy writing reports about china.
    • Observer001, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2Well...friend, that's the point of Israel; that's why we support it anyway, I figure. It keeps the "world of Islam" largely incoherent by making something like half of it froth from the mouth with hatred. Perhaps the largest experiment in trolling of the last/this millennium, Israel helps prevent a stable and thus possibly united world of Islam. The place takes much of the brunt of the resultant "flaming," too. It largely justifies the cost of supporting the place militarily. Israel doesn't offer much else as far as justifying the colossal military commitment of our alliance goes. Admittedly they have really good military designs like the Merkava MBT and the Negev LMG. Their economy is pretty good. Technology does well there.

      I used to get pretty angry at the thought that we'd support monetarily a nation named for one in the Bible, that identified pointedly as a particular religion. Said heated things about theocracy and waste. Lately my temper has grown less choleric, allowing me to step back and see that the nation can be of use.
      • TrevaLVF, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2Co-existing peacefully despite differences is really what I would like to see more people advocate and discuss.
        • Observer001, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1Well, yes, and candy gum-drop rainbow bridges would be an excellent way to connect the Americas to Russia, but we just don't have the advancement of culture and technology yet, man.
          • TrevaLVF, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Your sarcastic entry well-noted. I didn't intend to give you, or anyone the false notion that I have some child-like view of the human race seeing those words and responding affirmatively to them. It is true, that most people, particularly in numerous regions of this world, are too emotionally and psychologically retarded to realize that hostility begets hostility, murder begets murder where such cycles are encouraged to freely run.
            For the record, I'm not a man, Observer001 of no specified gender.
          • Observer001, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2I meant "man" in the general sense used to refer to any human being, but apologise for any offence you may have taken; correct gender identification is important to me as an androgyne. I grant that peace is a worthy end to seek but wish to assert that it is not a currently viable one for the scenario we discuss. I realise that my sardonic tone might have been a bit caustic and also apologise for it. It is difficult for me at times to control my tone without direct force of will applied.
          • TrevaLVF, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Apologies accepted.
            "It is difficult for me at times to control my tone without direct force of will applied."
            I understand. Same here.

            No society can possible reach any point of ending conflicts while working through issues and ultimately establish reasonable peace if nobody bothers to encourage them to take these steps.
    • pitlord, on 04/17/2008, -6/+2This article is dated MARCH 11, 2008!

      >.>

      I guess when you don't have any bad news about Israel you can just recycle old stories.
  • Feralvision, on 04/17/2008, -25/+105Shocking and disgraceful. The pathetic thing is that this kind of thing is the norm nowadays.
    • skaag, on 04/17/2008, -9/+2As is the norm of Israeli children dying by Kasam rockets... Even the Israeli themselves have become apathetic to it.
      • Zecchetti, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6how many israeli kids have died in the past year? And contrast that to the slaughter of 5 children in this terror attack
    • pitlord, on 04/17/2008, -7/+2This article is dated MARCH 11, 2008!

      >.>

      I guess when you don't have any bad news about Israel you can just recycle old stories.
  • LadyKofNYC, on 04/17/2008, -52/+189Now watch as Amnesty International is accused of anti-Semitism. Zionists are such douche bags.
    • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -53/+8You don't talk like a lady, using such language. Why should people treat you like one?
      • caferrell, on 04/17/2008, -4/+37They treat you like a lady, Jimmy....
      • MarkusGarvey, on 04/17/2008, -5/+36i guess you don't think that women should voice their opinion Jimmy....so now you are sexist as well!...big suprise!....
      • talonstriker, on 04/17/2008, -1/+3I agree with Jimmy. WTF is a lady doing on the intertubes? Go back to your kitchen! Don't you have dishes to wash?
        /s
    • Muslim4Life, on 04/17/2008, -3/+15I could see that happening.
    • JesusHatesYou, on 04/17/2008, -3/+20U.S. politicians are Israel's lap dogs, especially Hillary Clinton, the Heb wannabe. When an Israeli bulldozer purposely ran over that American girl Rachel Corrie for protesting the demolition of Palestinian homes to build Jewish settlements, the U.S. politicians apologized to Israel for her causing them trouble and staining their bulldozer with her guts. Read the newspapers when it happened about 4 years ago. She didn't die in vain though, because it was the little blurb they gave her on the back page of my newspaper that opened my eyes to the atrocities being committed by Israel with the Christian Zionists' blessings in this country. Never forget Rachel Corrie:

      http://rachelcorrie.org/
    • NighthawkBlack, on 04/17/2008, -5/+17Won't be long before all the Megaphone shills and other assorted Jewish lobby nutjobs show up to give us 'dumb' Americans their 101 BS reasons why Israel can murder, rape, rob and maim every Palestinian. The chief two will be:

      1. God says it's OK.

      2. Some Arabs are suicide terrorists, thus all Palestinian civilians have no rights as human beings and should be dealt with accordingly.

      Come on MPhone brigade--flag me as an anti-semite. You people are pure and utter scum.
    • AlwaysDiggsDown, on 04/17/2008, -5/+1Hey! Don't mix up Zionists with these Likud nut-jobs. The "Jewish Lobby" is AIPAC, and they're an association of rapture-loving Christians, far-right Jews, and those who want their money. Most Zionists hate the crimes against Palestinians as much as anybody can. Don't let hate take you over- that's what these guys have done.
    • robbinzo, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2Amnesty International are as much use as a chocolate teapot. They whitewash important issues.
  • caferrell, on 04/17/2008, -24/+141I want to see this on the evening news on Fox or CBS or ABC. What is the chance that will happen?
    • brendonla, on 04/17/2008, -10/+74None. That's just how it is with the media here in the U.S.: Israel = good, Palestinians = bad.

      When the Israelis were killed in the school recently by Hamas, that was front page news on the L.A. Times.
      But when Palestinians are killed, they don't bother to cover it -- and if they do, it's buried somewhere inside.
      • lgfaphile, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2Its on the AP wire and Reuters every single time it occurs...and they are referred to as "militants", even the murderers who fire rockets indiscriminately at civilians, when they get killed. I don't know what world you live in, but it is extremely hard to miss.
    • SaladCactusKing, on 04/17/2008, -14/+4Saw it on CNN last week.
      • Carthagefield, on 04/17/2008, -3/+14Prove it and I will feel guilty for burying you.
    • JesusHatesYou, on 04/17/2008, -3/+18This is a story that will never see the light of day in the U.S. The Jews control all of the TV networks, so they'll just continue to feed stories to dumb Americans that make it seem like Arabs just like to blow themselves up for fun.
      It was funny when Jimmy Carter wrote that book exposing Israel for apartheid conditions (yes, a ***** wall separating Jews from Palestinians as well as Israeli checkpoints everywhere is blatant apartheid). I saw more Jewish critics like Dershowitz discrediting Carter than reviews for the book. Same with the Mel Gibson bashing. Attack and discredit the man, instead of addressing the truth.
      • lgfaphile, on 04/17/2008, -5/+3This article is about Israeli policy. How do you get from there to "Jews control all of the TV networks". Listen to yourself you bigoted rockhead.
    • mchugh22, on 04/17/2008, -5/+9Jews own the media
      • jyac, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2not just the media, they own america, what u think we have to give israel $30b of aids everyyear, that's our tax money. meanwhile, we don't have money for our SS and medicare, how crazy is that.
        • lgfaphile, on 04/17/2008, -1/+3but this isn't anti-Semitic right? The article is about Israel, it didn't take long for you "critics" to morph that in to "Jews". Jews own the "media" and "America"?. You are disgraceful.
    • pitlord, on 04/17/2008, -5/+3This story was on the news over a MONTH AGO!
      X^P
      The date on this article is MARCH 11, 2008
      -_-
      Dumbasses
      • eatzyklonb, on 04/18/2008, -0/+0I see. News in the recent past is outdated and therefore useless.
        Fine - then Israel's claim to the land is centuries old and outdated, so it's irrelevant. Now shut up before I take your Nintendo away.
    • lgfaphile, on 04/17/2008, -2/+2What are the chances? Very good.
  • worldinmyeyes, on 04/17/2008, -29/+129Yep, all the American Christians who are duped into supporting Israel at all costs have no idea this crap happens, thanks to a deceitful corporate media and deceitful or duped pastors/prophets. And when will common Jews wake up and realize how corrupt their government and oppose the Zionist movement?
    • caferrell, on 04/17/2008, -8/+48They are awake. Read Israeli newspapers, look into Israeli peace groups. There is a large and vocal opposition in Israel.
      It is here where dissent has been muzzled by AIPAC.
      Fortunately a group of pro-peace Israelis has opened up a lobbying firm in Washington named J Street to counteract the machinizations of AIPAC.
      • Peko, on 04/17/2008, -21/+6And just in case you didn't know: AIPAC - America's Pro-Israel Lobby
        Working to strengthen the US-Israel relationship. Offers Middle East news, analysis and resources for policymakers, media, students and activists.
        www.aipac.org
        • Alix7, on 04/17/2008, -11/+28We know what AIPAC is, and frankly, you're not ***** welcome you Jewish disgrace. I'm a Jew, and I am the first to say AIPAC and Israel's Elitist government is what is destroying THIS country, relations in the Middle East and Jewish history. All the great Jewish scientists, philosopers and leaders are being overshadowed by the ***** kikes (yes I said kikes) who care so much about a piece of ***** land in a hot and dusty part of the world.

          ***** Jerusalem. There's more important things in life than rock and rubble, how about respecting your faith and customs and helping your fellow man. I wish Hitler didn't kill so many doctors, lawyers and intellects and rather swapped them with the Zionist cockbags who ended up making Israel into the hell hole it is today. I support a Jewish territory, country and nation so long as it's not controlled by some fascist gang of child raping idiots it has turned into.
          • Peko, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1I do not support AIPAC and I am pretty staunchly in support of the Palestinian side of issues in general. I think the US admin and the Israeli admin have been and continue to be deeply engaged in mutual fellatio. The quote is from Google because I didn't know what AIPAC was. Of course their little blurb is PR *****. Get off your presumptive high horse.

        • 1longtime, on 04/17/2008, -7/+4Chill the ***** out Alix. Lots of us are pissed by the stupidity displayed by the Israeli government, but the ***** you just talked is completely ***** up.
          • thePuck77, on 04/17/2008, -1/+7Translation:
            "Waaaahhhhhh, you called something what it is is modern culture!"
      • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -0/+15very true. there is more criticism of israel's policies in israel than there is in the US:
        http://www.btselem.org/English/
    • RobotCitizen, on 04/17/2008, -8/+42It's not easy to be a Jew that speaks against Israeli policy. Anyone that does is ostracized as a "self-hating Jew".
      • gerbil20, on 04/17/2008, -6/+2If it quacks like a duck... Could you come up with a better definition?
    • ParticleMan420, on 04/17/2008, -6/+3if i had to choose sides i would rather be ruled by jews than muslims.
      • ParticleMan420, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2whats xenophobic about that? take a look at the "jew country" and then compare it to any "secular muslim" country.
        where would you want to live?
        • Kizilbash, on 04/18/2008, -1/+3The 'jew country' is like 'the only African country ruled by white men' was. A reactionary colonialist state where one 'race' is superior and another is inferior. You should try living in Israel and then in Palestine for a month or so, then it will all become clear to you.
          Oh and in answer to your stupid question: Turkey for me thanks. Or Palestine. Or Jordan. Or even Syria.
      • LadyKofNYC, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1I'd live in Dubai Waaaay before I'd ever live in Israel. Hell, I'd live in Antarctica before I'd live in Israel.
        • ParticleMan420, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2i'm sure you would be treated very nice there too.
      • ParticleMan420, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1ok, so the anti-semites have spoken, anyone else?
  • maxtangent, on 04/17/2008, -41/+63You can safely bet Digg won't allow this on the front page.
    • netuserx, on 04/17/2008, -7/+9I hope they won't do this .
    • AllINeed, on 04/17/2008, -13/+11I agree Max... they will not
      • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -10/+12I dugg you up before I realized that you said what you said because you think this article is "biased." It's only biased by existing, in your eyes.
    • cheeseron, on 04/17/2008, -2/+14i don't think you know the same digg i do
    • Picaroon, on 04/17/2008, -13/+8First your comment makes no sense because "Digg" isn't some entity that has controls like that. If you're seeing conspiracies in Digg, you're ***** insane.
      Second, your comment is retarded because this is currently on the front page.
    • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -4/+15it's not digg that would keep it off or get it taken off, it's the hyper-organized pro-israel groups. they've got software that alerts them so they can swarm and bury:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_too ...
    • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -6/+5It's on the front page.

      You lose
    • maxtangent, on 04/17/2008, -3/+8Wow. I guess it wasn't as safe a bet as I thought. Cool beans.
  • worldinmyeyes, on 04/17/2008, -22/+94I really never woke up to the plight of the Palestinians before watching a video (I believe on google) that showed what their lives are like, how they cannot travel in certain zones and at times have curfews, and how the American media surpresses the information. Anyone have any good links to videos about this very important topic?
    • AllINeed, on 04/17/2008, -38/+15and you obviously have never seen or felt the plight of the terrible Zionist 'occupiers' who cannot ride a bus, sit at a cafe, go to university, drive their car home, or... take me for example, live in UNDISPUTED ISRAELI LAND without the fear of being killed (all), raped (women, me, children), robbed (all, me), physically attacked (all), verbally attacked (mostly women, children), sexually harassed (women, me) ... perhaps you've never heard "Tzeva Adom" while in the emergency room of a hospital and all the sick must immediately move away from the windows for fear of being hit by a qassam from gaza
      The world in your eyes, indeed... and it's about time you got them rechecked
      • Kizilbash, on 04/17/2008, -16/+43No, it's about time you got yours checked. I have been to both 'undisputed Israeli land' (in fact all of Palestine is disputed) and to the OPT (Occupied Palestinian Territories). I rode on buses, went to cafes, visited universities etc. in Israel and I visited Palestinian universities (when I could get there), and towns. Even as a foreigner or an Israeli you cannot travel freely in the OPT and as a Palestinian it is completely impossible. It takes Palestinian students hours to travel distances within the OPT that should be only 15 minutes apart. That is if they can get there at all. At checkpoints you get harassed by teenager with a uniform and a gun. If you are very lucky you make it through but ti takes valuable time every day. The there are Jewish settlers who hold regular pogroms into Palestinian villages, sometimes while the Israeli army has the Palestinians under curfew. They beat people up, verbally abuse them, spit at them, destroy Palestinian property (favourite hobby: shooting at the water tanks that are on all Palestinian houses).
        And that is not even talking about the fact that they can be arrested arbitrarily and held indefinitely without any charge or get killed in an Israeli air raid or other attack (the ratio of Palestinian civilians getting killed compared to militants is even worse than civilians compared to soldiers getting killed on the Israeli side, check the statistics at B'Tselem: http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Casualti ... )
        Really, if you want to know what Palestinian lives are like, you should really try living there for a while. The fear on the Israeli side sucks but the Palestinians live with that fear a lot more. And on top of that there is all the other crap.
      • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -14/+28You don't know what you're talking about. Stop misrepresenting Israelis' lives, they don't want your lies.

        The qassam canard, for instance. On average one person every six months is killed by them. Two a year. More people die in Israel by lightening strike.
        • AllINeed, on 04/17/2008, -24/+9misrepresenting Israeli's lives, you say? So I suppose my Teudat Zehut doesn't mean anything?
          • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -4/+10It might, but also, it really might not. Who's to decide?
          • noahhoward, on 04/17/2008, -2/+7What the does you having a national id card have to do with your country attacking Palestinians?
          • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4@noahhoward

            Apparently it's his excuse for supporting it.
      • talonstriker, on 04/17/2008, -2/+1there is no such thing as "undisputed israeli land"
    • Feralvision, on 04/17/2008, -9/+27John Pilgers 'Palestine is still the issue' documentary defo one to watch. It's on google videos.
    • KMye, on 04/17/2008, -3/+13I thought "Promises" (2001) was truly excellent, and is not really propaganda for either side. It's on Google video here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1716489580 ... and is also in Netflix Instant Viewing in much better quality.
      • FunnyBunnyBo, on 04/17/2008, -1/+8I'm backing up KMye, Promises was a fantastic documentary.
    • Bartboy919, on 04/17/2008, -8/+14Dude, im in the same damn boat, I never knew about the horrendous things that certain Jewish groups pull. Just today I learned about Alex Odeh, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Odeh ) a man suspected of being murdered by the JDL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League ... ) for saying that the leader of an Arab country speaks of peace.

      The same person who told this to me also said that in the 1980's, a law was passed that stated refusing the sale of weapons to Israel, and speaking out about it, could lead to jail time. Though I have not yet found this law, it would not surprise me if this were true.
    • Picaroon, on 04/17/2008, -13/+6So basically, you bought the stupid propaganda on the internet hook, line, and sinker? May I interest you in another film on Google videos--I believe it's called "Loose Change"
      • worldinmyeyes, on 04/17/2008, -9/+10Maybe I'll check out Loose Change, does it answer my questions that no one seems to want to answer?

        Namely, was the Mossad involved in 9/11? If not, then Why were 5 Israeli Mossad agents posing for pictures, dancing, laughing, as the twin towers burned on 9/11? The main stream media reported they were arrested, held 71 days in jail, and then quietly released. Oh, and they happened to have maps, box-cutters, and thousands in cash. As they say in any crime, who benefits?

        Read more here:
        http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.htm ...
        Hear from an honest eyewitness to it here:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
        CNN and CBS report explosives in the vans:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CHq6JocvDM
        NJ Bergen Record newspaper reports that bomb-sniffing dogs acted as if the smelled explosives:
        http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.h ...
        ABC News and a Jewish newspaper reports the arrested men were intelligence operatives:
        http://snipurl.com/24087 [ABC News]
        September 14, 2001: Head of Shadowy Company (the 5 Isrealis worked for) Flees US
        Dominick Suter, owner of the company Urban Moving Systems, flees the country to Israel. The FBI later tells ABC News, “Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.” Suter has been tied to the five Israeli agents caught filming the WTC attack. The FBI had questioned Suter around September 12, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. However, when the FBI returns a few days later, he is gone.
        http://snipurl.com/2443n [www_cooperativeresearch_org]

        Other Interesting News:
        One of the biggest Israeli companies broke its lease (which ran till the end of 2001) just days before 9/11, and at a cost of $50,000. The company is nearly half-owned by the state of Israel. They have not answered questions as to why they so-timely broke the lease.
        http://snipurl.com/2440h [www_fpp_co_uk]
        Two hour advanced warnings to some employees of the Israeli telecom Odigo:
        http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html
        http://snipurl.com/2440x [www_haaretz_com]
        Bush reported that (an unusually low number) 130 Israeli died at the WTC, but The New York Times (9/22/02) said it turned out 129 of those were still alive - so a grand total of 1 Israeli died at the WTC on 9/11.
        http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/11/WTC_DeathRoll2.h ...
        Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when asked what the 9/11 attacks means for relations between the US and Israel, replies, “It’s very good.” Then he edits himself: “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” [New York Times, 9/12/2001]
        http://snipurl.com/240st [www_cooperativeresearch_org]
        Netanyahu says it again 4/16/08
        "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
        http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html

        By all means, American intelligence services (CIA and NSA) were involved too, and I put the lionshare of blame on the Bush Neocon regime. But I'll keep asking these questions until I get something approaching intelligent answers. Hiding behind cries of anti-semitism won't cut it, nor are attacks on the credibility of the websites, since they are *completely sourced* in main stream media accounts. The silence on these questions from the lemmings who push the government "official story" is deafening.

        The facts are there, but I'll be damned if the media is going to connect the dots for us and tell the truth that 9/11 was a sham.


    • JesusHatesYou, on 04/17/2008, -3/+10There are a million of them on Youtube. That's where you'll get the truth now. Has the US media ever mentioned the fact that Israel illegally occupies and builds settlements in Gaza and the West Bank? Never! But the rest of the world knows the truth. Only Americans are kept in the dark.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxwWt2sSrNI
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZb5hbdJuY
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFoloBGC934
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSAvaYY-y7Q
    • Zecchetti, on 04/17/2008, -1/+6Look no further than Peace, Propaganda and the Holy Land:

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-660477589 ...
  • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -32/+61All hail Caterpillar, our wonderful American company that manufactures those bulldozers. What a noble purpose, to be used as a IOF terrorist tool to destroy civilians' homes.

    Speaking of similar atrocities, does anyone remember the orphanage closure story from a month ago?

    http://digg.com/world_news/MONSTROUS_Israeli_Army_ ...

    Remember how all the Ziontologists said it wasn't true? Not only is it true, but it's been working it's way through the courts. At the moment, the IOF has issued a seven-day order to vacate the entire premises, which includes all 5000 orphans. The orphanage's lawyers are contesting the order and there was supposed to be a decision by the court a couple days ago, but nothing has happened.

    Cross your fingers and let's hope this illegal war crime does not get carried out. Further information can be heard daily from the Flashpoints program and the Against the Grain program on KPFA. Go to KPFA.org or else look for KPFA in the "public" category in iTunes Radio.
    • RuffRidr, on 04/17/2008, -20/+18Not sure why you are blaming Caterpillar. They probably sell their bulldozers to just about anyone. Probably including the Palestinians if they wanted one. Oh noes, the Palestinians have bulldozer technology! It's just a *****' bulldozer. It's like blaming Ford and Chevy for drunk driving incidents.
      • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -15/+17Breathtaking response, kid.
        • twiztidsinz, on 04/17/2008, -5/+12He's right though.... its a machine.. a device.. a tool.. (much like you)
          It has no control over its actions, it's the operator who decides how to use it.
          Do you blame Louisville Slugger for making the bat a racist person uses in a hate crime?
          Do you blame Cannon for the pictures a pedophile takes of a child?
          Its all the same.
          • jessehadden, on 04/17/2008, -6/+2The Louisville Slugger is not made for the express purpose of beating a person of "distasteful hue" to death. There is no "Close-Up-and-Friendly Pedophile Cannon" model of camera that I am aware of. On the other hand, these armored bulldozers are built specifically for the Israeli Army, specifically to bulldoze homes, specifically while under attack or during a riot. It's a war crime, and an American company is very, very complicit. This is not an uncommon occurrence.
          • neocognitism, on 04/20/2008, -3/+2Then I see you have no problems with selling arms to anyone in the world, including the Palestinians.

            I suppose nukes for Iran are okay now by your logic.
        • RuffRidr, on 04/17/2008, -2/+9Yours, not so much so. You didn't address the point. How can you blame Caterpillar for something they have no control over? This false sense of blame and your cavalier attitude towards anyone that questions your viewpoint will get you nowhere. Buck up man, at least try to argue the point.
          • jessehadden, on 04/17/2008, -5/+3Caterpillar most certainly has control over what they build, and with whom they will do business. This is not a company that mass-produces a shrink-wrapped product, for the Israeli Defense Force to pick up at the nearest Home Depot. They take heavily customized orders for specific purposes, from specific clients. In this case, their client, the IDF, wants an armored military bulldozer to demolish homes in occupied Palestine.
      • krnldmp, on 04/17/2008, -3/+13I'll cut you some slack because of the Fisher-Price bulldozer in the thumbnail, but google "armored D9" and get back with us.
      • keymanjim2, on 04/17/2008, -6/+9Why just limit yourself to American corporation bashing? Why not blame the manufacturer of the boot that pressed down on the gas pedal? Or the company that made the gloves that worked the controls?
        You can try to lay blame on American companies in an attempt to curry shame in them all you want. But, don't insult our intelligence by trying to make your comments look like anything other than Israel bashing.
    • Alix7, on 04/17/2008, -7/+16Lets not leave the Zionists out of the blame wagon. These ***** bags only fuel IDF crimes
    • SPSandbag, on 04/17/2008, -7/+2Is it not a Volvo tractor in the picture?
      • doub1, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2Why is SPSandbag negative? Look at the picture, it is a Volvo.
    • akamurph, on 04/17/2008, -3/+11***** you DELL!! You made that f'ing computer that the hacker used to get my credit card information... BAN ALL DELL STUFF!!!! That wonderful American company.
      • keymanjim2, on 04/17/2008, -3/+6But computers contain plastic. And plastic is derived from oil. And oil comes from Venezuela.
        IT'S CHAVEZ'S FAULT!!!!
        • keymanjim2, on 04/17/2008, -2/+7Wait, wait, wait. What am I thinking? Chavez isn't an American company. We can't blame him.
          Let me see. The oil had to be shipped to a refinery. The ship used GPS for its navigation. GPS is run by the US government. THAT'S IT!!! IT'S THE US GOVERNMENTS FAULT!!!
          (Now we're back on track.)
  • 7Mystery, on 04/17/2008, -28/+91Typical Israeli behavior. With the US on your side, the MSM in your back pocket, who cares about ***** Palestinian homes...or people for that matter!
    • Pake, on 04/17/2008, -15/+4Why should I care about Palestinian homes when they don't care about human lives? Why should I care about Israeli lives when they don't care about Palestinian homes? If that is typical Israeli behavior, does that make terrorism typical Palestinian behavior? If terrorism is typical Palestinian behavior, does that make destroying homes typical Israeli behavior? Who's right? Who's wrong? Are the one's in the right the ones who were there first? If that's the case, how do we judge who was there first? Historically or recently? How far back is "recently" when you consider that it wasn't even 100 years that the land was part of the Ottoman Empire before Palestinians invaded and took it over, only to be taken over by Israel...
      • jooje, on 04/17/2008, -3/+8Apathy and ignorance will definitely lead a world to its demise.
    • Rambeezle, on 04/17/2008, -4/+8You should look at the disproportionate number of civilian deaths incurred by the Palestinians when you talk about loss of innocent life.
  • cobbwobbles, on 04/17/2008, -21/+67Blame the Israel Lobby, they've made Israel an unstoppable power in the region, with US backing, who's going to stand against them? No one. If they want people to gtfo off 'their' land, they just push them off, because they don 't HAVE to think about them from a human perspective, they don't HAVE to work toward peace. They get everything they want by bullying.
    • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -2/+11John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt wrote an excellent paper that documents and analyzes the disproportionate influence of the israel lobby. It also shows how they are actually harmful for not only america's security, but israel's too:
      http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
    • JesusHatesYou, on 04/17/2008, -1/+6It's really more complicated than that to blame the Israeli lobby or AIPAC. It's the 80 milllion Christian Evangelicals (American voters) who Israelis have under their control. Why? Because Israel convinced the Evangelicals that they must help Jews retake Israel before Jesus Christ will return - all according to The Scriptures. Of course the Israelis don't believe in The Rapture or any of it. ;) They just care about geting Christians to help them steal the Palestinians land. Look up Christian Zionism, the Christian United for Israel lobby group, and that is where Israel gets its strength from.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30_Zz7tHYs
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXs8MdmXWY
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxJJXdnnOIA
      • netant, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2The fascinating thing is that Israel accuses the US, at times, of wagging the Israel tail. (i.e. - Israel is hostage to US (Christian Zionist) policy.) They may be correct.
        • jessehadden, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2That's a good point. If you study the Book of Revelation, it says that Israel will be re-founded shortly before it is torn apart by Armageddon, right before the Kingdom of Heaven is established on Earth. Maybe they wouldn't be so eager to be friends with the US if they read up on the part they're supposed to play in this sick fantasy...
    • skaag, on 04/17/2008, -5/+3It's a tiny democratic country in the middle east, surrounded by terror supporting countries... what do you expect?
      That country needs SOME kind of help and balancing power, don't you think?! Else it would be devoured in days.
      • Kizilbash, on 04/18/2008, -0/+4"don't you think?!"
        Well, you certainly don't think. This country was founded on ethnic cleansing. The whole crap about being a democracy is just that: crap. Was South Africa under Apartheid a democracy? They had elections. If you disenfranchise enough people then yes, you can have a quasi-democracy and still make sure your 'people' wins. Israel wants to have its cake and eat it. They kicked out hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who were living there, they don't get to vote. They want to control the West Bank and Gaza (as well as the Syrian Golan Heights), the people there get no vote though. Democracy, my butt!!
  • lastdalek, on 04/17/2008, -11/+17If my memory serves me right, didn't the Allied forces have something to do with the current configuration of countries in that area? Just a thought to ponder....
    • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -10/+12What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
      • flossdaily, on 04/17/2008, -7/+12I think his point was, that the western world gave it's blessing to Israel's existence in the middle of an ocean of hostile Arab states, but then decided to play this coy little game where they pretend that they had NOTHING TO DO with all this crazy violence!
        They established Israel in a situation where it was going to have to fight fiercely to sustain its existence, they gave their blessing to the displacement of all the Arabs that would eventually come to be known as the Palestinians, then blamed the plight of the Palestinians on the Israelis. Its like yelling "FOOD FIGHT!" in a cafeteria full of children and then rushing out, only to come back a minute later, see the mess and shout "Shame on you!" Its disingenuous, and it has helped to cultivate this multinational wave of hatred towards the Israelis.
        • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1there is plenty of blame to go around. the western world for taking away the land of a people and giving it to someone else. the israelis for occupying that land and practicing a policy of occupation and apartheid. the palenstinians for letting their frustrations feed into violence.
          • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -1/+3I would have dugg you up except for your last statement. I didn't digg you down tho

            For all of the 2nd amendment rights fans here, they sure are down on Palestinians defending what USED to be their home.

            Seriously. If an occupying force came in and did this to your town. What would you do? Take up arms, or go out to shake hands?
          • flossdaily, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2There's a difference between taking up arms against the Israeli army and blowing up a bus full of Israeli children. I thought that 9/11 would have put an end to the western world justifying terrorism.
        • netant, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2And frankly, I think it clouds the issue to hate Israel. I prefer to hate Zionists, the neocons of Israel.
    • philhatesyou, on 04/17/2008, -5/+9Yes. The creation of the state of Israel was one of the great geopolitical blunders of the 20th century. Mind you, no one will say this, because it's a great way to get labeled as anti-semitic. Fact of the matter is though, it's true.
      • theright, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1It was only a blunder in the sense that the aggression of the neighboring Arab countries was not foreseen...
  • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -22/+28This story was just wrongfully buried by digg.
    • yellowcakewalk, on 04/17/2008, -12/+23The Megaphone brigade has been alerted.
    • netuserx, on 04/17/2008, -6/+20No .. it's still in the upcoming list ,, just need some diggs to hit the front page ..
      • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -10/+16Okay I just checked again and you're right, it's back on the upcoming list. But when I looked it was off the list, so either we kicked it back on the upcoming list by getting more diggs through shouting it, which I did, or else digg moderators put it back on the upcoming list. It has to be one of the two, because I saw it on the buried list.
        • netuserx, on 04/17/2008, -4/+8well my friend it's still here :)
          http://digg.com/all/upcoming/most
          i hope it goes popular soon . we still have 10 hours ..
        • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -7/+11Oh, believe me, the time limit isn't the problem. I've had a few stories, and watched a few stories, get suddenly removed from the up-and-coming list. I don't know if it's a sudden flux of buries, or if it's a moderator, but it's one of the two. It pisses me off. This story definitely does not have ten hours, if it stalls in diggs, it'll go bye-bye. But it looks set to go quite soon, so this is good. I'm VERY surprised at how few Ziontologists have commented to far. Normally it'd be swamped in lies by now.
          • PlagueOfMorons, on 04/17/2008, -5/+8Only because this is the middle of the night in Tel Aviv. foo, wpi need their rest after the many hours a day they spend monitoring news sites. We'll see the mass digg burial come once they get into the office and run their shill accounts, as usual. Maybe they're busy with other news stories: NYTimes, April 17 - "Fadel Shana, 23, a cameraman for Reuters, was killed when a missile struck his clearly marked jeep in the area, Reuters’ Gaza bureau said. Asked about the many civilian casualties, Maj. Avital Leibovich, an Israeli Army spokeswoman, said the military had struck an armed group. “It could be that civilians were nearby; it would not be the first time,” she said. Major Leibovich said that if a cameraman had been killed, “we apologize for that.” “It was not intentional,” she said.
            Like the USS Liberty.
    • ramises, on 04/17/2008, -2/+7It doesn't really work like that... you can check your buries here though: http://www.ajaxonomy.com/buryrecorder/
      • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -3/+5I WATCHED this story go from upcoming to buried, and then back to upcoming. I've seen the same thing happen a few times.
  • evilcaptain, on 04/17/2008, -24/+35All because they believe a plagiarized book of fairy tales which tell them they can.
    • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -19/+8The Bible is hardly a fairy tale. But, keep telling yourself that. Maybe one day you'll really believe that there is no God.
      • philhatesyou, on 04/17/2008, -2/+13Really? The Universe was created in 7 days? People used to live to be 700 years? God punished all of mankind because some ***** convinced some guy to eat an apple? Talking bushes of fire? Sounds just about as far fetched as Xenu and his fleet of DC-8s.
        • dmallymally, on 04/17/2008, -7/+2I mean i guess saying nothing exploded and everything evolved sounds more plausible.
          • philhatesyou, on 04/17/2008, -0/+5If you actually understood the theory of the Big Bang, you'd know that it wasn't "nothing" that exploded. That's a very naive take on the matter. It's irrelevant though, because I never said that was true. I was replying to the poster who was essentially saying that it's absurd to call the Bible a fairy tale. I'm right, he's wrong, and you're a whiny little whore.
          • dmallymally, on 04/18/2008, -0/+1Please, enlighten me, what exploded? A singularity that just came in to existence on it's own?
    • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -1/+14what are you talking about? i thought the bible was a real estate contract. i was thinking about using god as my next real estate agent.
    • dmallymally, on 04/17/2008, -10/+3I'm not sure if you've read the Bible but it did say that the Israel would become a nation again even though it was broken up all those years ago. Oh, and that tiny little nation of Israel is able to hold off everyone who has tried to attack it since. Sure doesn't sound like a 'plagiarized book of fairy tales' to me.
      • evilcaptain, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4What you said doesn't make any sense.
        What proof do you have that the bible is true?
    • Wacer, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2Ya comments like that are going to get Christians to sympathize with the Palestinians.
      • evilcaptain, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2If they wake up from their self-delusional state, they would.
        If the truth hurts...etc
  • thereddevil, on 04/17/2008, -23/+9typical disgraceful israelian job..
    those bloody israelian..
    U R burning the world and all the palestainian people with ur heinous polcy
    wished that hetlr burned u all..
    f**kin mercenaries
  • cjwhitaker, on 04/17/2008, -6/+14This will never stop...
    • notque, on 04/17/2008, -2/+17There's been international agreement on the borders. The U.S. stops supporting their atrocities, the conflict will end.
      • caferrell, on 04/17/2008, -1/+10Halleluyah notque!
        When Israel has to finance their own war machine, then peace will begin to look more atractive
      • netant, on 04/17/2008, -0/+4Well, if the US stops supporting Israel's atrocities, who's going to support the US atrocities? Quid pro quo, Clarice, quid pro quo.
    • buggu, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4Not with the US excusing these actions and defending Israel each time the UN holds them accountable for such actions.
  • youtellme8, on 04/17/2008, -20/+67And STILL the USA will continue to support Israel despite its continual human rights abuses. As an American I am ashamed of my country's diplomatic choices.
    • flossdaily, on 04/17/2008, -27/+8#1 - Wrongful seizure of property (if that is what happened here) is a CIVIL rights abuse, not a HUMAN rights abuse. A HUMAN rights abuse would be, for example, blowing up a school bus full of kids (you know- the sort of stuff that the Palestinians are doing.)
      #2 - America tortures "enemy combatants" and has caused MUCH more collateral damage with its attacks than does Israel. Should allies be judged on their behavior towards enemies in armed struggles? Or should they be judge by how they govern their own people? If you chose the former, than surely no one should be allied with the US. If you chose the latter, than it is obvious that Israel's government, which respects the human and civil rights of all of its citizens, regardless of race, color, or creed, is one that we are properly proud to call an ally.
      • MarkusGarvey, on 04/17/2008, -4/+18*flossdaily...you have proved beyond all reasonable doubt , that you are a ***** idiot, and should keep your trap shut until you know what you are talking about...
      • jyac, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3are u fvcking kidding me??? kick people out of their homes and bulldoze them is not a humanright abuse?
  • brantw, on 04/17/2008, -11/+24When is it going to end?
    • akamurph, on 04/17/2008, -11/+4when the palestinians choose peace over rockets. when their brother arab nations start financially helping them out. when they stop blaming all of their problems on a neighboring nation (i.e. look in the mirror for some of the issues in their society rather than blaming Israel for everything).
  • flossdaily, on 04/17/2008, -35/+23This article is a poor excuse for journalism. No matter how you feel about the conflict, you've got to realize that any article that paints Israel as pure evil (knocking down homes and stealing land just for the hell of it) is not telling the whole story.
    Sadly, though, it seems that most people in this thread are taking it as the gospel truth.
    • Kizilbash, on 04/17/2008, -14/+27Oh yeah, the famous 'it is one-sided' defense...

      Amnesty International criticizes Hamas and Hezbollah too, but I'm sure you missed that. Israel does steal land and knock down homes. Not for the hell of it but because it is part of a total war over the land that used to be called Palestine. Yes, human rights are abused on both sides, but only one side gets total and unlimited support from the US and Europe (don't believe the hype about Europe being anti-Israel either, our leaders may talk like they are supporting thr Palestinians, in the end they never do).
      • flossdaily, on 04/17/2008, -21/+9Israel isn't interested in land. They traded land for peace with Egypt, and they made the most generous land for peace offering the world had ever seen when they were dealing with Arafat in the 90s.
        • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -11/+15That is the stupidest thing I've seen written about this entire conflict this month. Are you checking your copy with your superiors before submitting it?
        • PlagueOfMorons, on 04/17/2008, -3/+10And by this flawed logic, you could equally say "This article is a poor excuse for journalism. No matter how you feel about the conflict, you've got to realize that any article that paints Hitler as pure evil (knocking down homes and stealing land just for the hell of it) is not telling the whole story."
      • akamurph, on 04/17/2008, -8/+3"Total and unlimited support from the US and Europe"... maybe Palestine should get some unlimited support in the form of $$$$ from their wealthy oil-rich neighbors who like to use them as an excuse to hate Israel?
        • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -3/+8Palestine owns a multibillion-dollar natural gas deposit off the coast and they want to get money for it, but Israel won't let them. Tell Israel to stop interfering in the natural resources of Palestine, including water resources, and you'll get your wish.
      • tomasII, on 04/17/2008, -2/+3I'm sure you missed the Palestinian suicide bombers blowing up malls and restaurants
      • theright, on 04/17/2008, -2/+1"Not for the hell of it but because it is part of a total war over the land that used to be called Palestine."

        Palestine? Palestine doesn't exist. Palestine has never existed.
    • NighthawkBlack, on 04/17/2008, -5/+7 No--you're a poor excuse for a human being...

      Whole story eh? What is the whole story? God said the land belongs to Israel alone so fuc* the Arabs we can have our way with them? That's about the long and short of it.

      If Israel wasn't waging a soft kill war on these ppl in God's name, they would not be hurling rocks and rockets over the walls in response.
  • DrediKnight, on 04/17/2008, -14/+3They have to make room for the vineyards somewhere...
  • dildoolielly, on 04/17/2008, -17/+44AMericans bought those bulldozers

    Just take a look at the foreign aid we send Israel every year. Over 7 billion last year alone, oh, and we constantly forgive Israeli debts. What good has it done them? They have some of the worst human rights violations in the region with the apartheid state they impose on Palestine.

    However, I can forgive them. I'm an American, and I know how it sucks to be accused of responsibility for your country's actions when the government is out of the citizen's control.
    • diggrnumber1, on 04/17/2008, -15/+3get your facts straight. we give them about $3 billion per year, mostly earmarked for military purposes. Israel's military spending was around $14 billion dollars last year. so, in reality, the israelis paid for most of the cost of those bulldozers.
      • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -2/+11they should be paying for all of it. we've given israel 1.6 trillion dollars since 1973.
        • akamurph, on 04/17/2008, -8/+2who ***** cares? If we didn't they would have been obliterated by all their neighboring countries years ago... Oh, is that okay with you? Who's side would you be on then?
          • zeabu, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3When we, the west, chose to give the jews a country of their own, we shouldn't have done that with land of other, innocent people. There were a dozen of alternatives. For eg. the Sahara, which would now be a green lap of land with their efforts. Another solluction was Madagascar. Third sollution was the already autonomous jewish region in eastern-Russia. Etc. But of all the sollutions, we chose the worst one. Why? To punish the Middle-east of trying to get independent.
  • galeninjapan, on 04/17/2008, -13/+33And all the candidates still cling to the idea that Israel is one of our greatest allies.
    • diggrnumber1, on 04/17/2008, -16/+3they are. they're definitely not going to betray us.
      • galeninjapan, on 04/17/2008, -3/+15No, they'll just bring us down with them to the end of the world.
        • diggrnumber1, on 04/17/2008, -7/+2neither side will win the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the near future (as in, within the next century or more). this is the same stuff that has been happening for years.
      • RayG68, on 04/17/2008, -10/+2the tail doesn't wag the dog, Israel is U.S.'s #1 mideast ally
      • Rambeezle, on 04/17/2008, -1/+8http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
        • diggrnumber1, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2that's ONE guy!
        • LadyKofNYC, on 04/17/2008, -1/+4One guy who got CAUGHT steeling thousands of secret documents for the Israeli GOVERNMENT, our supposed "ally". I wonder how many didn't get caught. I wonder just how much information Israel has stolen from us over the years.
          • eatzyklonb, on 04/18/2008, -1/+1A lot. Israel stole a lot of nuclear technology information, and other technology from the US which they then turned around and SOLD to arm other countries. Anything for a buck, eh, Shylock?
    • tomasII, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1Wait maybe we can rely on Saudi Arabia... no...or Syria....no I guess not, maybe Iran....so sorry....maybe any islamic nation.....nah....never mind.
  • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -47/+15All that land belongs to Israel anyway. Besides, the whole Palestine area is full of immigrants from other countries like Syria. It's not like those people owned that land from long ago. They merely showed up over the years and started building.

    The Old Testament of the Bible shows the title deed to that land...given to the Jewish people by God Himself.

    Who are you liberals and atheists to question it?
    • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -7/+27Reputable Source, Hagee worshiper?
      • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -22/+4Uh...the Bible? LOL. THAT was an easy one, duh!
        • BlackBob, on 04/17/2008, -2/+23He said reputable.
        • Aokitsune, on 04/17/2008, -3/+18Still, reputable source?
          By the way, when God promised that land to the Israelites, it was already occupied by people like the Canaanites. But apparently slaughtering people to take their land for your own is permissible if they don't believe what you do and God told you to do it.
          • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -14/+1Well, if God owns the planet and whoever own it gets to make the rules...then yes. It really is that simple.
          • Aokitsune, on 04/17/2008, -1/+7Suppose I believe in Allah and he "tells" me it's OK to kill you for not believing in Him? Your naive thinking gets us nowhere productive- like peace.
            "With whips and chains and hand-grenades; to arms, to arms, have another and another. Our God says there ain't no other- Our God says it's all OK- Our God says THIS IS THE WAY."- Frank Zappa- "Dumb All Over"
        • eclipse007, on 04/17/2008, -3/+15Bible? LOL, What next? Harry Potter?!!
        • pintomp3, on 04/17/2008, -3/+14the bible is a real estate contract?
        • xenuxenuts, on 04/17/2008, -3/+7The OT God is a dick, even if he was real, I wouldn't pay him much heed.
    • eatzyklonb, on 04/17/2008, -6/+29Who are you to demand I believe in your religion? So you're saying yours is the one true religion and the entire rest of the world has no rights under your laws. Well, my god says, your god is a girly-man. Who are you to question it?
    • avengingturnip, on 04/17/2008, -6/+23Belongs to Israel? Is it public land? How do you justify driving people off of land they individually own.? We are all created in God's image and all people deserve equal protection of the law whether they were there many years ago or not - and that point is debatable. Not being an Israeli does not give anyone carte blanche to steal from that person. There is a commandment against it. A commandment.
      • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -26/+3Whatever God gives you, YOU own. Not your neighbor. Not anyone else. You.

        God gave to Israel ALL that land. No one else can lay claim to any of it. Period. End of story.

        And anyone who tries to take that land away from Israel, or who supports them, is guilty of violating that nagging "Thou shalt not steal" commandment.
        • Turambar, on 04/17/2008, -4/+17lol, you actually believe religion is real
        • awills, on 04/17/2008, -1/+21Wow, you just ***** blew my mind. You are the reason people hate religion.
        • xenuxenuts, on 04/17/2008, -2/+10Well, my god gave the land to the Paraguayans. I guess they better start packing their ***** now, huh?
        • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -2/+12God gave THIS country to the Native Americans.

          Should everyone else just leave? Or is that irrelevant because it's not in your Judeo-Christian book of fairytales?
        • avengingturnip, on 04/17/2008, -1/+3The people God gave that land to are long gone.
    • MarkusGarvey, on 04/17/2008, -6/+28just like God told bush to invade invade Iraq...do you question this Jimmy?
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/sto ...
    • hillkiwi, on 04/17/2008, -4/+10I suppose if there were such things as gods and aliens that would be an argument. But there aren't, sorry.
      • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -8/+2Aliens? Maybe. God? Yes...just like the Bible says. But, deep down inside, you knew that already, didn't you? It just sounds like you're still trying to convince yourself.
        • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -1/+7I believe in the possibility of alien life MUCH more than I believe in a magic sky fairy. I'd be MUCH more likely to believe that "god" is an alien life form than a mystical sky-man who snapped his fingers and made all this for no reason but to make billions of little ants worship him.

          What a vain son-of-a-bitch.
    • hillkiwi, on 04/17/2008, -4/+18Before everyone gets too worked up you should realize that JimmySpaza is a 'troll' and will take any position that will stir controversy. He was one of those neglected kids who learned bad attention was better than no attention, and now uses the internet to satisfy that urge.

      Just move on and engage in debate with those who are truly willing/able.
      • BlackBob, on 04/17/2008, -1/+12What, and miss the comedy???
      • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -10/+4Name calling will get you liberals nowhere fast. And I have been involved in many long-winded debates here in Diggland. Trolls don't do that.

        Hillkiwi, if you checked my post history, you'd know this. And the rest of your post sounds more like your own regrets than anyone else's.
        • chipsngravy, on 04/17/2008, -3/+4Long-winded being the active word.
    • Dukaso, on 04/17/2008, -5/+15Why the God of the old testament? Why not Shiva? Why not Zeus? They're a hell of a lot more interesting than your god at the very least. Zeus is rumored to turn into a goose and rape women. Shiva has four arms and three eyes!
      • chipsngravy, on 04/17/2008, -3/+13Personally I'm more of a fan of the flying spaghetti monster.
        • MarkusGarvey, on 04/17/2008, -3/+11IM GONNA TESTIFY!....I AM A PASTAFARIAN!!...rAMEN!!.....
      • JimmySpaza, on 04/17/2008, -11/+2Because there is little, if any, evidence for the existence of those gods. But, the existence of the God of Israel is supported by archeology, astronomy, biology, et al.

        Google for it if you want. It's not difficult.
        • garvallagh, on 04/17/2008, -1/+7wow, post up some links to the archeological proof, thanks. i hope you are not talking about the pyramids
          /sincere
        • eatzyklonb, on 04/18/2008, -1/+2I've never heard that assertion before., Jimmy Do you have any other sources?
          .... Do you have any sources that are not Christian sources?

          Say, wait. Gee - seems I've heard the arguments I just used, before. Oh wait - YOU used them, Jimmy boy.
    • chipsngravy, on 04/17/2008, -6/+17JimmySpazza, always good for some light comic relief.
      • neocognitism, on 04/17/2008, -5/+14Who just happens to sound a lot like LoneRanger
    • tdawson2012, on 04/17/2008, -5/+10You're an awful person, not very christ-like at all. Scum.
    • xNIBx, on 04/17/2008, -3/+9Wow, at first i thought you were sarcastic. After reading a few more of your comments, i thought you were a troll. But then i saw more of your posts and i now think that you actually believe all the bs that you write(or that you are a very consistent troll). Wow.
    • talonstriker, on 04/17/2008, -1/+6wait what the hell. In one thread (pretty much every thread about the middle east) some bibletard claims that the Old Testament was made invalid by jeebus's dying. Now another one claims that it's still valid. Get your stories together.
      I guess I really shouldn't be suprised since this is pretty much how religion has operated throughout history.
  • m2garand, on 04/17/2008, -19/+37Oh, and look, 213 diggs and still not on the front page. Personally, I never bury stories, even stories I disagree with I digg up because I want to discuss them. The Zionist bury brigade must be working overtime to bury this story. As, usual they don't even want a debate. I don't blame them, Israel's actions are indefensible.
    • m2garand, on 04/17/2008, -5/+23Hey finally beat the Zionist bury brigade. It only took 246 diggs.
  • insomniac8400, on 04/17/2008, -26/+11OMG, next time don't declare war on another people for existing and they won't have to exterminate you.
    • macsen, on 04/17/2008, -5/+12I think it's more like declaring war on people for existing where your house and family used to be, if there ever was such a declaration in the first place. Not all Arabs have declared war on Israel, even Palestinians though westerners tend to see them as hateful slum-rats with weapons. Indeed, it's not really possible to declare war on Israel since it is an occupier, hence any acts of violence against the occupier's forces are legitimate resistance.
      • insomniac8400, on 04/17/2008, -6/+3Israel didn't start it.
        • Kizilbash, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6Yes they did. They started it by insisting on a Jewish state in a country that was most definitely not majority Jewish and then ethnically cleansing the place so that it was.
          • insomniac8400, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Would you want to live next to crazy extremists?
  • p0s3r, on 04/17/2008, -30/+11They had plenty of warning. You could hear those bulldozers from a mile away!
  • truthmatters, on 04/17/2008, -13/+28I watched this kind of thing happen in the documentary "Gaza Strip." It was shocking to see the Palestinians homes being destroyed as children helplessly threw rocks at the tanks. What I hate about the U.S supporting Israel regardless of their human rights violations, is that it seems to all be routed in the biblical prophecies of the Armageddon. I thought we had separation of church and state in America.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z99YeU5P80
    http://www.beliefnet.com/story/151/story_15165_1.h ...
    • orangefly, on 04/17/2008, -1/+7you really thought that....???....
      • truthmatters, on 04/17/2008, -0/+8I'm an idealist. I want to believe we have separation of church and state, but I realize the religious right has hijacked our democracy.
  • Stevanoski, on 04/17/2008, -31/+11Good for Israel, if you are going to get rid of vipers, first you must clean out the nest.
    • Wolverine82, on 04/17/2008, -6/+14Reported
    • dmallymally, on 04/17/2008, -14/+4seriously, I can't believe almost everyone of the comments are in support of an Islamic nation of people, who are the same ones that are responsible for atrocities such as 9/11.
      • petard, on 04/17/2008, -3/+11WTF?
      • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -3/+9You mean those SAUDI hijackers?
      • raisputin3, on 04/17/2008, -2/+9You sir, are an idiot.
      • zerocool1990, on 04/17/2008, -2/+9So as i understand from what you said, all whites are KKK ?
      • LadyKofNYC, on 04/17/2008, -5/+7Yes, all the brown people in the middle east look like terrorist, so why not just kill them all and take their land.

        Typical Bigoted Piece Of ***** Zionist.
    • yellowcakewalk, on 04/17/2008, -4/+7Benjamin Milikowsky a.k.a. Netanyahu sez "9/11 was great for Israel". Hmmm....

      http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html
      • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -2/+5 On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

        "The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

        -- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

        "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"

        -----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff

        http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html
  • unklesam666, on 04/17/2008, -8/+17in america, you're ALWAYS shown the historical nazis as the primo example of terrible opressors and destroyers of human life - mostly jewish. i guess the buck was passed. maybe someday people will understand that you have to behave differently from the "bad guy" if you dont want to be the good guy.
    • garvallagh, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1Meh, the same behaviour can be seen in abused children
  • SaladCactusKing, on 04/17/2008, -22/+8There are a whole lot of comments complaining about lack of front page expoure on an article I found on the front page. *rolleyes*

    That said, all the blatant antisemetism in this thread aside, I do believe it's time for Israel to do a unilateral pullout from any Palestinian territory and only go in when there's an attack, which is almost daily, but ya know, it'd show that retaliation or not, people will always attack israel with Qassams and suicide bombs.
    • 420ilerBuzzed, on 04/17/2008, -9/+15There's been antisemitism for years for a reason...
      The Jews do it to themselves. I'm sorry, I used to support their cause until I went to Israel and saw first hand how horrible they can be to the Palestinian people.
      • 420ilerBuzzed, on 04/17/2008, -4/+10Keep digging me down - it only reaffirms what I'm saying is true.
        • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -2/+7Their Megaphone software is buzzing tonight. I'm expecting to see you buried a lot further.
    • Wolverine82, on 04/17/2008, -5/+20I love it how people scream antisemitism as soon as something bad about Israel comes up. It's like you can't say anything negative about Israel or you're gonna be labeled as 'hating Jews.' In the meanwhile, we should just sit back and let Israel just go in and systematically wipe-out a group of people. Oh wait, we shouldn't just sit back - we should give them a whole arsenal of weapons, a ridiculous amount of money and support, and THEN sit back.
      • SaladCactusKing, on 04/17/2008, -8/+5I'm not screaming it. I happen to disagree with Israel on what they're doing with bulldozers. But antisemetism DOES exist andIf you can't find ONE anti-semetic comment here , I'll eat my hat.
        • Kizilbash, on 04/17/2008, -3/+4Yet the remarks comparing Palestinians to cockroaches and vipers and whatnot don't bother you?
    • Kizilbash, on 04/17/2008, -3/+5Blatant antisemitism? Examples please? Because there is definitely blatant racism in this thread, but it is directed at the Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims, not at Jews. Anti-zionism is not antisemitism.
    • yellowcakewalk, on 04/17/2008, -3/+4Criticism of Israel = anti-semitism. That USED to work. Not anymore, the taboo has been cast aside.
  • Ne007, on 04/17/2008, -16/+38Another reason to detest Israel.

    They could sodomize 10,000 Palestinian children and I would still be called an Anti-semite for speaking out against them.

    What? Are they free to perform atrocities with impunity?
    • Stevanoski, on 04/17/2008, -11/+4Yeah, cause it's full of Jews? /sarcasam
    • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -3/+6Yes, because they're God's "chosen people", and if you don't feel guilty about "the" holocaust, you're an anti-Semite.

      /"chosen people" who can't enjoy the manna from heaven that is bacon.
    • thunderclap, on 04/17/2008, -5/+1Yes. So accept it and move on. Its not you can do anything anyway. None of us can.
  • t0xen, on 04/17/2008, -19/+27It's absurd and embarrasing that it took 274 diggs to get this story on the frontpage. The Zionist bury brigade worked overtime on this one. Should the bury system be removed/changed?

    http://digg.com/political_opinion/Should_digg_remo ...
    • geekee, on 04/17/2008, -14/+7It's absurd that all the stories that make the front page of Digg are anti-Israel. Stop complaining. Your anti-Israel agenda is winning here.
    • Wacer, on 04/17/2008, -3/+7At 274 Diggs there were only 8 buries. That is not very many considering I see stories that reach the front page and the there are a hundred.
      http://www.ajaxonomy.com/buryrecorder/
      lame
    • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6The Megaphone brigade moves quickly
  • 420ilerBuzzed, on 04/17/2008, -17/+28Looks like the Jews are taking a page out of the Nazi's book on how to oppress and suppress a group.
    I'm getting sick of what these war criminals are getting away with.
    • yosserhughes, on 04/17/2008, -0/+9No, they learned from the Nazi's mistakes. There'll be no Nuremburg trails for any jewish war crimes.
      Anymore than there will be any trial for bush and his thugs.
  • RonnyN, on 04/17/2008, -23/+21That's horrible. It really is.

    If I was a Palestinian, I would pack some explosives on myself, and go blow up some Israelis somewhere.

    I mean, you're just a peace-seeking Palestinian, sitting at home, and out of the blue...POOF! Your house is gone. Shame on Israel.
    • Stevanoski, on 04/17/2008, -17/+5You and your Nazi friends?
    • serif69, on 04/17/2008, -10/+7Welcome to Gitmo, here are your ankle irons. Have a nice day!
    • ctrlv, on 04/17/2008, -11/+4>pack some explosives on myself, and go blow up
      >just a peace-seeking Palestinian

      peace-seekers do not fight terror with terror
      • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -4/+3You're right. If America gets invaded and our homes start getting bulldozed to make room for the homes of our occupiers, I'm sure you'll just sit by quietly, make a few protest signs and try to negotiate peacefully as everything you have is destroyed.

        Honestly, I think you'd probably be more likely to pick up a gun, and take as many of the ***** out as you could.

        I would too.
        • ctrlv, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2There's a difference between taking out the aggressors, and taking out innocent civilians. What Ronny was saying was that it's OK for suicide bombers to blow up innocent people because they were attacked. And the way in which he said it was pretty moronic. Peace-seeking palestinians don't blow up innocent civilians. Peace seeking Israelis don't blow up innocent palestinians. It's the government, who has power beyond what its citizens give it. Much like in the USA, are YOU killing defenseless Iraqis, or your government? Are you saying it's OK for someone to suicide bomb you or your family because of what your government is doing. If so, then OK, but if not then you're a hypocrite.
          • bjornski, on 04/17/2008, -3/+2If someone decided to start suicide-bombing in US cities, I would understand the justification.

            Would it be right? No. But seriously. What should a bunch of guys with old weapons and rocks do against an occupying force with American made weaponry and access to the American armories?

            Fight them on an even playing field?
    • Enrickey, on 04/17/2008, -15/+11I know, first POOF! your house is built illegally on land that you aren't aloud to build it on. Then POOF! it's gone.
      Sometimes, POOF! you let some nice little terrorist launch a rocket from your backyard, and then the next day POOF! your house is destroyed.
      God damn Israel and their ability to magically make houses disappear with no rational reason at all.
      • Wolverine82, on 04/17/2008, -5/+9maybe if you would quit with the magic, you'd realize that PALESTINE did exist. Learn some history, then you'd have a better understanding of what is illegal and what isn't.
        • Enrickey, on 04/17/2008, -0/+2"PALESTINE" did not exist. Under Ottoman rule, it was three distinct administrative units, Beirut, Jerusalem and Hijaz, which included parts not part of modern day Palestine/Israel (Parts of Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia). Palestine referred to the general area, much like saying the Middle East, Orient, South-East Asia, etc... Palestine in its modern form only came to exist at the exact same time as Israel did under the British Mandate.

          Maybe you're the one who should learn a little history.
      • ad33lshahid, on 04/17/2008, -4/+11The families in Hadidiya have lived in the same area