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- AlyxVance, on 10/18/2009, -4/+42'Bout time. Grow a pair and get some ***** control over your country.
Maybe since they saw Sri Lanka could end a 20 year civil war against the Tamil Tigers with a 5 month offensive, they could do the same. - bringitontimx, on 10/18/2009, -0/+18Good luck. Pakistan will need it.
- Ninh, on 10/18/2009, -0/+16Every Muslim should feel insulted permanently by the very existence of those radicals.
- FormerBabby, on 10/19/2009, -0/+14Spoon, have you not seen all the drone attack stories over the past 2 years? Plus America can't just roll in, that would make things much worse.
- Ikus13, on 10/18/2009, -2/+16"and so are we." Your post was correct until you said that last little stupid line.
*Undiggs* - KibblesnBitts, on 10/18/2009, -0/+12Okay. say it with me. *****.
- acroyear2, on 10/18/2009, -2/+10Drones.
- rwiggum, on 10/19/2009, -0/+8No, it's just correct grammar. I don't like Nazis, but it's still a proper noun.
- muffcakes, on 10/18/2009, -2/+9That is naive. The American military might is as appropriately equipped to fight terrorist as a sledge hammer is to fight a swarm of hornets. Those fancy weapons do little good if you can't see your target or they are among your civilians.
Stability, education, peace and good will are the best weapons against terrorists. - ifruit, on 10/18/2009, -0/+6No ***** ***** ass filter mate.
- inactive, on 10/19/2009, -0/+6Al-Queda, like most Arab states, don't really give a crap about Palestinians or else they'd be over there fighting the Israelis. It is jut a convenient excuse to rile followers up for their own agenda.
- nullcodes, on 10/19/2009, -2/+8Sri Lanka proved that terrorist organizations that blend with the civilian population can be defeated.
The Tamil Tigers were more dangerous and ruthless than the Taliban (they have killed more people) and had far more recruits that blended with the civilian population. In the 1980's they INVENTED the suicide belt concept which is now copied and used by terrorists all over the world now and in fact al qaeda copied their tactics in the USS Cole bombing. Tamil Tigers have carried out far more suicide bombings than any other terrorist group. They have blown up far more buses and even destroyed civilian aircraft. Also unlkike Al Qaeda or the Taliban, the LTTE even had a couple of propeller planes they used in attacks. They also successfully used heat seeking anti aircraft weapons, that the taliban don't have or couldnt use successfully.
They had a budget of over $300 million a year and were supported by cash from running the south asian drug trade.
They were defeated because the government had an advanced strategy. If anyone supported the Tamil Tiger terrorists, they were taken out of the equation simple as that .. village by village. The army painstakingly took over territory ... it didnt take 5 months in took over 2 years and strategery before that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_ ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War
Since the Tigers were defeated back in May, there have been no suicide bombings. This in spite of the fact that significant amounts of Tamil people live and work among the Sinhalese and other ethnic groups.
Pakistan can follow the same tactic .. clear out terrorist supporters village by village. To sustain the victory have known govt. supporters (women and people who have been wronged by the taliban ..trust me there are plenty in each village) that inform on who the radical Islamists are. Actually that's not even needed .. everybody knows who the troublemakers are even today and cleraring them may be enough. - lemur, on 10/19/2009, -0/+5In Urdu it's the most obvious abbreviation of "Pakistani." From Pakistan پاکستان you get Pakistani پاکستانی, and the root of Pakistan is Pak پاک, which is a word in both Persian and Urdu meaning "pure." Paki پاکی is to Pak پاک what Pakistani پاکستانی is to Pakistan پاکستان, and it is grammatically correct.
- nouman1989, on 10/18/2009, -3/+8I cant believe you are comparing the Tamil Tigers with the Taliban
- robertisaar, on 10/18/2009, -0/+5only a filter if you are browsing and aren't logged in.
- AlyxVance, on 10/18/2009, -3/+8Completely different scenario, but still an insurgency that needed to be dealt with
- appleseed1234, on 10/19/2009, -0/+4The Pakistani and Afghani government are so infiltrated it doesn't really matter if we kept it secret or not. Letting the general public know is basically saying: "We're coming after these guys hard now, unless you want to be collateral damage then we suggest you stay the hell out of the way and offer them no quarter."
- FormerBabby, on 10/19/2009, -0/+4Paki is sometimes derogatory depending on the tone and context.
- footbag01, on 10/18/2009, -2/+5I think this is a good thing... These people hate Pakistan and America. And they are scared sh=tle$$ of our UAV's. Plus it's where all of the al Qaeda heads are hiding including Bin Laden. We've got to chase them out into the open.
- nullcodes, on 10/19/2009, -0/+3The Tamil Tigers were more dangerous and ruthless and had far more recruits that blended with the civilian population. In the 1980's they INVENTED the suicide belt concept which is now copied and used by terrorists all over the world now and in fact al qaeda copied their tactics in the cole bombing. Tamil Tigers have carried out far more suicide bombings than any other terrorist group. They have blown up far more buses and even destroyed civilian aircraft.
They had a budget of over $300 million a year and were supported by cash from running the south asian drug trade.
They were defeated because the government had an advanced strategy. If anyone supported the Tamil Tiger terrorists, they were taken out of the equation simple as that .. village by village. The army painstakingly took over territory ... it didnt take 5 months in took over 2 years and strategery before that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_ ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War
Pakistan can follow the same tactic .. clear out terrorist supporters village by village. To sustain the victory have known govt. supporters (women and people who have been wronged by the taliban ..trust me there are plenty in each village) that inform on who the radical Islamists are. Actually that's not even needed .. everybody knows who the troublemakers are even today and cleraring them may be enough. - BotchaMcCoola, on 10/19/2009, -0/+3Somewhat related. On CNN I heard a caller say that these Taliban differ from N. Vietnamese because the Taliban flew planes into US buildings. Can you believe this? It is still another kind of truther apparently. The 911 Commision Report is very clear and largely undisputed that an Egyptian and 18 or so Saudis did the 911 crimes. The involvment of Taliban in 911 would not be necessary and has never been convincing. In fact aren't the Taliban mainly resisters of invasions like the earlier Mujahideen we supported against the Russians?
- inactive, on 10/19/2009, -5/+8Pakistan needs to realize they actually owe us with this assault on the Taliban. During the cold war we chose their side over the much bigger and strategic India, have contributed billions in both military and economic aid, so I don't want to hear any crap from revisionists like buzaman about how they are our puppets and for us to leave them alone. They owe their existence as a state to America, India would have consumed them a long time ago if not for us.
- poidh, on 10/18/2009, -2/+5Pakistan played a double game with the Taliban and the US under Musharraf and they are playing a double game now.
They are 'arresting' Taliban terrorists in the frontier provinces and releasing them on condition that they go and fight the Indians in Kashmir. They take 80% of US military aid and divert it toward buying weapons with which to target India.
You are quite right though that Islamic terrorism can only be fought with an iron fist. - mickstephenson, on 10/18/2009, -6/+9No, Paki is a derogatory term, he lost it there.
- sobank, on 10/19/2009, -2/+4lol. Buddy Pakistan do not owe u jack. You chose to help Pakistan cause Indians were pro-russians. In fact you owe Pakistan for the treatment of Russians in Afghanistan for which every other person in US is taking credit for (which is extremely hilarious considering the fact that the people who they fighting were students of CIA according to US). Here is another tid bit for you. CIA did not know anything about afghan fighters. They were taken on "meet the afghan mujahid" day trip by Pakistani agency.
So go get your history corrected. It was Gen. Akhtar and Gen. Zia who manufactured the fall of Russia. Honestly, you guys should leave your stupid news and maybe read what actually goes on in world. - allisonV12, on 10/19/2009, -1/+3Put the Ak-47 in the closet,sip some tea and wait for the speeding army convoy to pass.
- spoon088, on 10/18/2009, -3/+5What the heck has America been doing all this time?
- BotchaMcCoola, on 10/19/2009, -0/+2I agree. My point is that the idea that there are nukes in Pakistan does not warrant our military and wobbly-legged politicians scaring us into all this wild overspending. If terrorists get the nukes there is first a low probability they could successfully deploy them against the US. Their airforce and military industry assets are not even up to a small fraction of Germany and Japan in WW2. If they try to shoot one off we would end all their problems for them very quickly. Don't pay any attention to the politicians and MIC friends ripping us off with these absurd fears. Instead how about they pay for their earlier mistakes and rebuild Vietnam so that country will be a better trade partner. Our economy needs the customers they killed also. Rub their faces in these errors until they get some backbone and are willing to take a few chances like Americans in earlier days.
- nullcodes, on 10/19/2009, -0/+2No that's actually part of the strategy .. you want them to organize into a front ... the taliban mentality is one of overconfidence and also the main leaders most of whom are cowards and who are well known want to be safe so they try to recruit all their contacts to come protect them. Then when you go village to village u can be sure u already encountered most of the baddies.
- ortucis, on 10/19/2009, -1/+3They did nuclear deal with India cause unlike piece of ***** terrorist nation called pukistan, India doesn't go around selling nuclear secrets to every ***** muslim country on the planet (or any country at all).
- DJWilsonX, on 10/19/2009, -4/+6finally Pakistan stops being lazy freeloaders.
- DaviDTC, on 10/19/2009, -0/+2or have it turned on.
- boogerthecat, on 10/19/2009, -1/+3Nice to tell the enemy a week in advance that an offensive is coming.
Back in the day when we used to win wars, we didn't give our enemies a mulligan. - TheJimid, on 10/18/2009, -2/+3Whenever I see stories about terrorism, I think of all the Palestinian people who get pissed off by the idea anything Al Qaeda does benefits them.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 10/19/2009, -1/+2Do it with your own bucks and don't waste the lives, time and wealth of the US public. Knock yourself out with those countries but with private charity only. We'll still have to protect ourselves against terrorists no matter what - just like Israel.
- mickstephenson, on 10/18/2009, -2/+3History can't be used as an excuse to disrupt cultures and societies that are in place even if they owe their existence to injustice. Self determination is the only real solution to these territorial disputes, violence breeds violence and the actual objective become overshadowed. Northern Ireland is the textbook example.
- toxtek, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1Do you still think Talibans are our friends? You cannot say anybody is fighting with Pashtuns or Pathans because Talibans include Afghan, Punjabi, Pathan, Uzbek, Chechen and Indians. Our Army is fighting to protect our nation.
- tinymarae, on 10/19/2009, -1/+2^
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Go-to-jai ...
Discussion here
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/war-terrorism/529 ... - Skeptica, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1Probably because they didn't like to hear the truth. There was a saying like - Britain has no permanent enemy, Britain has no permanent friend; Britain has only permanent interest. It is to the American interest to have a stable Pakistan whether it's under a democracy or under a dictatorship. We would prefer it to be stable democracy, but the facts showed Taliban was gaining ground.
- acroyear2, on 10/18/2009, -5/+6@geoffg
UAVs. Liberals are too busy fixing what conservatives left after 8 years of mismanagement. - mickstephenson, on 10/18/2009, -3/+4"They are 'arresting' Taliban terrorists in the frontier provinces and releasing them on condition that they go and fight the Indians in Kashmir. They take 80% of US military aid and divert it toward buying weapons with which to target India."
That's a pretty bold claim, do you have credible links to support this? - DaviDTC, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1Check me out on this someone with the 911 commision report. We were attacked by a group of people and airplanes fly.
- muffcakes, on 10/20/2009, -0/+1I'm not even sure terrorist have military industries. Thing is, if a Mexican can sneak across the border then a much better funded and organized terrorist can too. They could do so with a nuke.
If instead of smuggling a nuke in they shot it off how would you end their problems quickly? Obviously they won't all be standing around the launch point. If they launched from Pakistan would you nuke Pakistan? This would require you to drop nukes on an alley who happens to be a nuclear power.
I agree that fear mongering is a MIC strategy to suck more money out of Americans but preventing terrorist attacks requires a two pronged approach; First don't let them get entrenched to the point that they control a country. Second, make them not hate you. - Skeptica, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1Thank you for correcting my spelling. I meant cede. I don't think they had a clause like that of Texas that allowed anyone to secede.
- APselfStorage, on 10/20/2009, -0/+1Do you think Pakistan want terminate Taliban?
You kidding your self
For Pakistan Taliban is golden eggs - buzaman, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1Unfortunately the word Taliban is a generic word that means anyone resisting the occupation or US backed government/military. Using a single word that already has some visceral meaning to represent a incredibly complex society is disingenuous at best and doesn't take in account the anger the Done/Air bombings have caused. Western Pakistan has been attacked from the sky and ground for most of this decade.
- toxtek, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1but india is so ***** crappy that they sell weapons to talibans. they terrorize all their neighbours including Pakistan, Sri Lanka, China, etc etc. india is so ***** nuts that they support israel. india is so ***** ***** that they kill innocent civilians in kashmir. you have that embarrassment against Muslims from the past 1000 years in which you were ruled by Muslims. moreover india is so damn bitch that they kiss America's feet to get this deal.
- rYno, on 10/19/2009, -1/+2Good luck... Pakistan needs to step up... hope they can make some improvement from past attempts
- taqdig, on 10/19/2009, -3/+4Yes... Pakistan needed this operation.. because all these people are trained by india and financed by USA to de-stabelize the Pakistan. Can USA win the War in Afganistan without help of Pakistan. Keep in mind to simply destroy a country with your fire power and to win the war is two different things. The time which was long waited is about to come. This is the time which is ever mentioned is professies.
If some fool in the world think that by bombing the innocent people you will eliminate terror from the world....then what can we say except waiting for another lashback of american policy as it ever did in the past.. with every coming venture USA is going more Unsafe... this is time for USA public to think, where there tax money. - sobank, on 10/19/2009, -0/+1well somebody has to do something. All americans and NATO are still sitting their butts in Kabul city and pretending that they are fighting. But then again no one wants to hear that their mighty forces are sitting in couple of cities for 7 years and cant go outside their little camps.
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