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- inactive, on 03/27/2009, -47/+757I guess it's ok if they do it.
- Powerfan5000, on 03/27/2009, -29/+703PETA should spend more time trying to find homes for their animals, and less time staging elaborate publicity stunts.
- dreambig207, on 03/27/2009, -32/+448hmm that's funny, I've heard peta people say, "if you put down a dog, you should be put down" .... they really practice what they preach
- xcheats, on 03/28/2009, -43/+346People Eating Tasty Animals.
- XsuperflyX, on 03/28/2009, -20/+228Pen and Teller *****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0exLa6saV9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAJ6-X7zvY&fea ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gpEyHWXqQ4
ASPCA FTW
http://www.aspca.org/ - yeeaauuh, on 03/27/2009, -9/+203As long as you don't EAT the cats, it's all good.
- CrankMyBlueSax, on 03/27/2009, -26/+196That's a pretty high rate. Anybody know how that compares to ASPCA or Municipal shelters? PETArds are just freaky folk.
- directhex, on 03/28/2009, -4/+147http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
2007 figures above. 2008 figures aren't available online yet. - MonsterChaOS, on 03/27/2009, -42/+181I guess its ok for them to kill animals, so long as they don't eat them afterward.
- gwinerreniwg, on 03/28/2009, -126/+241Wow, I surely believe this article, after they cite their sources and all. Wheres the proof? What "government records"?? No references cited whatsoever. Also notice the fine print at the bottom of the article: "The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition supported by restaurants, food companies, ... "
Is this the same restaurant and food companies targeted by PETA? How convenient. Buried as spam and propaganda masquerading as news.
I'm no PETA defender, but this reeks of crap. - triscuitbiscuit, on 03/28/2009, -7/+115They are a bunch of hypocrites- nothing else.
Penn and Teller did an excellent expose on them really showing how bad they are.
One of their better ones is that they are against animal use in science. Yet Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder and president, is a diabetic. Insulin medications have come from animals in the past and the now-synthetic insulin medications are tested on animals. If if weren't for them, she would be dead! - JasonHaley, on 03/28/2009, -1/+99Yeah I used to work at an animal shelter. We calculated a bit over 50% of the animals were euthanized. 64% sounds about right for animal shelters too, because it depends on the shelter. For example, my animal shelter dealt mostly with birds so we had better stats because seagulls, ducks, and robins are surprisingly resilient. On top of that, we didn't deal with having to find owners for the birds since they were wildlife and can be sent into the wild. But with the SPCA, there's such a high volume of disowned cats and dogs and so few adopters (people rather buy from pet stores) that I think they have no other option but to euthanize them.
I'm not sure what PETA deals with or why they can't find adopters. But it would be worth looking into which type of animals they deal with mostly to understand what their options are. - Powerfan5000, on 03/27/2009, -7/+9664% according to wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_euthanasia#Ani ... - gdo01, on 03/28/2009, -7/+89Raw numbers here for 2004 and 2005:
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
Eliminating those returned to the owners, around 80% of animals in each category are euthanized. It's not as high as the 95% suggested by this article but it is still above the percentage euthanized by municipal shelters. - killymckill1, on 03/28/2009, -38/+116This is a bit hard to believe
quick search and found this
"The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' " - applessauce, on 03/28/2009, -6/+76I don't trust the CCF, so I looked around & found this Newsweek article on the same topic:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/134549
PETA does euthanize most of the animals that they "rescue." They think that killing unwanted pets is a necessary evil, given the pet overpopulation, which is better than keeping them caged in a shelter or leaving them with owners who don't want them & don't treat them well. Some animal rights activists (like the Humane Society) agree, while others disagree and favor no-kill shelters. - directhex, on 03/28/2009, -2/+68And to make those 2007 figures clearer: 8362 animals received, minus 6466 animals claimed by owners, makes 1896 potentially adoptable animals. of those 1896, 1815 (96%) were killed off, and presumably spent some time in the walk-in freezer.
The 2006 figures tell a similar story. Why would the 2008 figures not? - politechaos, on 03/28/2009, -46/+104That's an awful lot of PETA bashing for an "independent resource".
The CCF is a shell designed purely for bashing PETA. Along with most, I'm a staunch defender of animal rights, and think most of PETA are a bunch of whackjob tree****ers, but this site is flat out inaccurate and base propaganda. - Tarnum, on 03/28/2009, -5/+57People Euthanizing Tasty Animals (89% of the time)
- demonsurge, on 03/28/2009, -37/+87As much as I love bashing PETA as well, the simple fact is that they take in a ton of animals with problems such as feline AIDS, parvo, leukemia etc. With limited funding you have fewer options, and rather than have sick or unwanted animals live in small cages for lenghty period of times they put them down humanely.
Peta isnt a magical organization in which everything happens perfectly but they do say a lot of really really stupid things. A realistic person would understand that having to put down animals isnt avoidable. Any outrage and complaining should really be about pet owners who are too stupid to do what bob barker has been saying for years 'Spay and neuter your pets.'
And it should be said that even though an animal is listed as 'Adoptable' it doesnt mean that anyone is going to adopt it. The majority of people who adopt get the cute little kitten or puppy, what do you think usually happens to the 10 year old dog given up because the person couldnt afford not living in a small apartment anymore? - detcade, on 03/28/2009, -27/+75http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_ ...
The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries.
Don't believe everything you read. They cite no sources but their own articles. - gwhenning, on 03/28/2009, -16/+63Well, one reason to not support vegetarianism is that we need 8 essential amino acids which are found in nearly all meat, but very few plants. You eat less to survive when you eat meat. Most vegetarians I know are taking vitamin pills to supplement the essential 8. Funny thing is, most vitamins use animal protein to come up with the essential 8 (typically the parts that aren't normally eaten.) so you're still getting animal protein, but I'm eating the good parts. I have a friend who's a PHD in food science that I tease about this all the time. Although in his case he's vegetarian for religious reasons, not dietary, and he sees the irony.
Besides, it's tasty. ;) - rDr4g0n, on 03/28/2009, -6/+52I'd be a lot more interested in this article if it wasn't written in such a blatantly sensationalized way. Every line starts with something like "PETA kills thousands of defenseless kittens by stepping on them" or "PETA places defenseless dogs into the path of an oncoming steamroller at a rate of 3.5 per second".
Here's a tip writer guy: if you want to have some influence, try at least *appearing* to be unbiased.
Also, I think PETA is retarded. - mishehu1, on 03/28/2009, -6/+51Ah sh*t, I better stop eating at the Chinese restaurants near PETA's offices....
- acatzr800, on 03/28/2009, -7/+52lol "limited funding"
Then maybe they should cut down on the propaganda budget and focus on saving animals instead - felidaeus, on 03/28/2009, -5/+49I hope they didn't kill any of those adorable sea kittens.
- breadfred, on 03/28/2009, -6/+49??? Look at you. look at your teeth. Learn biology. What are you? You are an O-M-N-I-V-O-R-E. Yup. You read it right. You are a plant eater who also eats meat. That is what your body has been evolved to live on. Oh yes, learn about evolution as well while you are learning.
I agree that many people, me included eat way to much meat for their own good. But meat IS an essential part of our diet. - AFelsinger, on 03/28/2009, -6/+47I wonder how many people who are outraged by this got their pets from a pet store instead of adopting from a shelter.
- lisaawesome, on 03/28/2009, -0/+41And this is why I adopt all my pets. I am not going to pay for a cat in a pet store when I can use that money at a shelter and rescue an animal from death and know my money will be used to help the ones I couldn't rescue.
- chriso1281, on 03/28/2009, -7/+44Okay, you're right, the article doesn't cite a source. So here's a source for you:
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ... - benjinet, on 03/28/2009, -16/+52Website and org are run by Philip Morris - and smoking doesn't kill either...
- gdo01, on 03/28/2009, -0/+36Continuing to look up the numbers, I am now more in agreement with this article. Data from 2006 and 2007 shows huge drop offs in adopted animals with only about a dozen being adopted in total. For 2007, you obtain the magic number of 95% euthanized.
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ... - inactive, on 03/28/2009, -5/+40The problem is PETA does not want animals to be pets. Even seeing-eye dogs irk the hell out of those wackos.
- inactive, on 03/28/2009, -3/+32We're not bashing them because they're euthanizing animals. We're bashing them because they're hypocrites. ASPCA and other shelters euthanize animals also but they don't preach the same bullcrap PETA does.
- Tesseract91, on 03/28/2009, -8/+35I think it has to do with their main goal of "Animal Liberation". They do not even believe that animals should be kept as pets and therefore will not allow the animals to be adopted.
Just like most extremist groups, they'll find some ***** reason to justify it. - Qumahlin, on 03/28/2009, -1/+27Whats wrong with this is this extremist group goes after many people where the animals really aren't that bad off, but they use force and influence to confiscate them. This same extremist group preaches about not killing animals and how those who do should die as well.
You'll notice this isn't about sick dying animals they put down this is about animals that were deemed ADOPTABLE.
Now go look up the adoption rate of your typical sheter, its a ***** lot higher then 5% - DickyT83, on 03/28/2009, -0/+24It's not even the whole buying from a shelter to save some animals, it's that pet stores charge a grand for a ***** golden retriever when you can get one just like it from a shelter. It's absurd that people spend the amount of money on an animal that they can get for so much cheaper from a shelter. And they'd be helping a good cause.
- matt85163, on 03/28/2009, -41/+65I ***** love it. PETA has to be the most smug organization in the history of mankind. Their holier-than-though BS can now be refuted with some simple facts: I can eat a cow's worth of steak, kill a squirrel on the way to work, and sacrifice a goat every day and still kill fewer animals than PETA
- Tarnum, on 03/28/2009, -6/+30But, but... the elaborate publicity stunts attract donations!
(And selling dog meat to Vietnamese restaurants.) - anstice85, on 03/28/2009, -4/+27I had to do a report about organizations who "expose" seemingly harmless organizations a few years ago. Front groups, basically.
PETA isn't harmless, sure, but this Center for Consumer Freedom kept coming up in my research. So, I followed the trail and found out that they're ***** insane. Like, Scientology style.
I dislike PETA. I dislike this front group even more. - gl77, on 03/28/2009, -15/+37how many sea kittens did they kill?
- centran, on 03/28/2009, -3/+24It's not that PETA can't find adopters it is that the don't want to find adopters.
It is more humane to PETA to euthanize the animals then let them be adopted. PETA does not believe in keeping animals as pets and therefor they are better off dead then living as a pet.
However, they are no complete idiots. They believe pets should have never been domesticated in the first place but they can't control the past. Pets have a poor chance of surviving in the wild. This small sense of logic is the only reason they do not openly protest pet owning. They are OK with people who take care of pets but do like the idea of owning pets. - str1fe, on 03/28/2009, -0/+20I have two Jack Russell Terriers who were both rescue puppies!
- enevitable, on 03/28/2009, -2/+22http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
http://www.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_sea ...
It appears as if they euthanize anywhere from 30-40% of their animals surrendered, and on average 80-90% of their wildlife received.
Feel free to tuck your tail, and honestly what is with the Fox noise and drudgereport comments? Don't you realize 90% of digg is liberal? - TheAllBeing, on 03/28/2009, -0/+20Anybody who is thinking about giving money to PETA, do the animals a favor and give it to the ASPCA instead. Don't let the crazy, and they are crazy, people at PETA give a bad name to a good cause.
- ClevelandBrown, on 03/28/2009, -5/+25Dugg for "PETArds"
- Powerfan5000, on 03/29/2009, -1/+21[citation needed]
- bodegit, on 03/28/2009, -4/+23So are you a peta activist? And a homophobic bigot?
- Karmakongen, on 03/28/2009, -29/+48PETA is definitely a bit extreme at times, and if this article is totally correct, it is horrible, but this is no reason to not support the ethical treatment of animals or vegetarianism, etc, like the article suggests. That would be like saying "***** global warming" just because Al Gore isn't a walking solar panel and his house doesn't have a giant windmill coming out of the chimney.
- serif69, on 03/28/2009, -2/+21Why'd you censor "hugg"?
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